Author Topic: Balthazar dialogue loop right after I defeated... (Read 8112 times)

elbryan · « **on:** November 18, 2002, 07:46:29 PM »

I'm using the latest version of Ascension WEIDU.

After I defeated Melissan, Balthazar made his choice to have the taint removed and then spoke several pieces of dialogue starting with..."I can't thank you enough..." The problem is that he kept saying this same batch of dialogue over and over. He'd finish and then go RIGHT back to..."I can't thank you enough..." no matter how many times I hit continue.

I don't know how often this happens...I haven't gone back to trying the battle again yet. It's REALLY a bummer, though.

Oh God help me!

elbryan · « **Reply #1 on:** November 20, 2002, 02:19:04 PM »

Well, it seems that it's a bug that comes up every time. I just killed Melissan three more times, and the the loop happened each time.

This is driving me insane!

weimer · « **Reply #2 on:** November 20, 2002, 03:55:27 PM »

That doesn't sound fun at all.

You didn't, by any chance, have the original version of Ascension and then install Asc/WeiDU on top of it, did you?

Anyway, I'm not sure how this could have happened to you (bad install?), but here's a quick-fix solution.

Uninstall Asc/WeiDU. *Remove* override\balth2.dlg and override\finsol01.dlg.

Reinstall Asc/WeiDU. Load old save game. Defeat World+Dog, hopefully avoid all dialogue loops.

Let us know how it goes.

jcompton · « **Reply #3 on:** November 20, 2002, 04:10:16 PM »

Do you have the Kelsey-TOB/Ascension content installed?

elbryan · « **Reply #4 on:** November 20, 2002, 07:44:02 PM »

I didn't install WEIDU over the original.

I don't have any Kelsey stuff. Ascension is my only mod other than the xp cap remover...hmmph, I plan to uninstall that soon, though. Only had it for my all Bhaalspawn party.

I just tried your fix, Weimer, and it unfortunately did not work =( Thanks anyways. I just hope we find some way to fix it soon

weimer · « **Reply #5 on:** November 20, 2002, 07:59:23 PM »

Wow, I am completely at a loss.

Would you be willing to send me a saved game (purely for research purposes, but it may help me get to the bottom of your problem) where this happens?

jcompton · « **Reply #6 on:** November 20, 2002, 08:14:20 PM »

Getting his FINSOL01 and Balthazar-related decompiled .d's might help as well?

elbryan · « **Reply #7 on:** November 20, 2002, 11:06:09 PM »

I'll send it if you want. What's your email?

weimer · « **Reply #8 on:** November 21, 2002, 12:42:36 PM »

weimer@cs.berkeley.edu

I look forward to seeing your saved game. Thanks for helping us out. Perhaps I can convince to to include override\FINSOL01.DLG and override\BALTH2.DLG as well?

Despite the fact that it is listed at the top of every mod README (including Ascension) and at the bottom of my webpage, this is a fairly popular question. :-)

Mike B. · « **Reply #9 on:** November 21, 2002, 04:15:36 PM »

I had that bug myself about two months ago. I know how to fix the problem, but it's not pretty. I considered the game to be finished at this point. Thus, I erased the entire BG2 directory. I mean everything, including the saved game directory and dialog.tlk. I reinstalled BG2, TOB, the TOB patch, the Baldurdash fixes, Ascension, Ease, Item Upgrade, Tactics and Sola in that order. It took me almost an hour, but the problem did go away. I just confirmed the results by taking a party through Ascension. No looping. Like I said, not a pretty fix, but it worked.

Wes, any luck finding the problems discussed in my other posts for the Sahu city or the Liches in the tactics mod?

weimer · « **Reply #10 on:** November 21, 2002, 05:04:31 PM »

For the benefit of my forgetful mind, would you be so kind as to summarize those problems again?

[ However, if I haven't fixed it in a recent version it usually means that I was unable to reproduce it. ]

elbryan · « **Reply #11 on:** November 21, 2002, 06:25:33 PM »

Argh, having problems attaching the savegame file to the email. Do I only need to attach Baldur.sav once I open the quicksave folder? (Quicksave is the save I'm playing on)

elbryan · « **Reply #12 on:** December 08, 2002, 05:37:36 PM »

So...any luck on finding a solution?

weimer · « **Reply #13 on:** December 08, 2002, 07:11:27 PM »

I can't reproduce it locally and I don't recall actually getting a saved game (which should include the entire directory, not just the .sav or .gam file). Can you (or anyone else running into this problem) send me a saved game so that I can take a look?

Reinstalling ToB and then the offical patch and then the mods should fix it. If not, if you could list the first few words in every spoken phrase in the loop, that would help me track it down.

elbryan · « **Reply #14 on:** December 08, 2002, 07:32:56 PM »

I'll try the uninstalling...

The loop starts at, "I cannot thank you enough..." and restarts at the same place.

--I just tried reinstalling ToB and the patch, and I still got the loop. It took a different form, however...Balthazar would loop the same, but the text would be the last thing Solar had just said. The dialogue camera would switch to him, but the words wouldn't be his.

UGH! I'm so frustrated by this.

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Assassin · « **Reply #15 on:** January 04, 2003, 03:41:27 PM »

I've got this problem too. The thing is, I really, really don't want to redo the entire Ascension sequence. I suppose that I could just CTRL-Y all opponents, but then that's just plain cheating...

[!--EDIT|Assassin|Jan 4 2003, 11:41 PM--]

Guest · « **Reply #16 on:** January 04, 2003, 04:46:02 PM »

What you can do without uninstalling- reinstalling the whole game is to

1. Uninstall Ascension using Weidu uninstaller

2. erase your dialog.tlk and all of the contents of your 'override' folder

3. unzip your previously saved dlg.tlk and override contents into SoA and SoA/override directories

4. reinstall the Ascension.

This particular bug never happened to me, and I played Ascension about million times both without and with added Redemption in million combinations of npcs. Who is in your party by the way?

But I know it is very easy to corrupt the game if you install and re-install the mods several times on top of each other without clean installation of the whole game, that is why I always keep zipped override and dialog.tlk

I can point you to the download of the 'clean' override zip and dialog zip but it is 16MB and 2 MB downloads! I would not recommend it without cable connection.

Assassin · « **Reply #17 on:** January 04, 2003, 05:44:00 PM »

Quote

What you can do without uninstalling- reinstalling the whole game is to

1. Uninstall Ascension using Weidu uninstaller

2. erase your dialog.tlk and all of the contents of your 'override' folder

3. unzip your previously saved dlg.tlk and override contents into SoA and SoA/override directories

4. reinstall the Ascension.

This particular bug never happened to me, and I played Ascension about million times both without and with added Redemption in million combinations of npcs. Who is in your party by the way?

But I know it is very easy to corrupt the game if you install and re-install the mods several times on top of each other without clean installation of the whole game, that is why I always keep zipped override and dialog.tlk

I can point you to the download of the 'clean' override zip and dialog zip but it is 16MB and 2 MB downloads! I would not recommend it without cable connection.

Hrm... Party is Tashia, Kensai/Mage, Ranger/Cleric, Shapeshifter, Imoen, Sarevok (who betrays me).

Sure, I would appreciate it in case you could. It would take about half an hour; oh, start it up, then go to church tomorrow, and let it download while I'm away. I save time

dorotea · « **Reply #18 on:** January 04, 2003, 10:52:47 PM »

Ah, so you have Tashia mod installed as well! Then before you do all of the above uninstall tashia mod as well. Basically, uninstall all the mods you can, because my dialog talk will be SoA+ToB+ToB patch only and you will have to reinstall all your mods after you drop new dialog and the override contents.

When you unzip the files unzip dialog.tlk into ...\black isle\bgii - soa
and override all files into ...\black isle\bgii - soa\overide

don't forget about uninstalling all the mods before this and re-installing after!

It was me answerin btw - I forgot to log in. I will send you a link in PM.

Assassin · « **Reply #19 on:** January 05, 2003, 12:57:07 PM »

Aye, aye... I will do that. Thanks for the links. I have a DSL connection, so the estimated time to download is about 10 minutes.

Will the backup dialog.tlk in the Kelsey mod interfere with this process? So, the override and the dialog.tlk both have the latest patch from Bioware already installed, right?

Thanks again for your help.

[!--EDIT|Assassin|Jan 5 2003, 08:59 PM--]

elbryan · « **Reply #20 on:** January 19, 2003, 09:47:27 PM »

The only two mods I have installed are Ascension and one option of that Ease mod.

dorotea · « **Reply #21 on:** January 20, 2003, 12:42:03 AM »

I bet, he got himself a corrupt script file somehow. The only way out now would be to reinstall the whole game, not just ToB. Or download and replace the dialog.tlk and the contents of the override folder. I always keep these handy when I code and I suggest that every gamer who does the mods does the same. These are big files to download, but I have versions of dialog and override from SoA+ bonus CD's+ToB+ToB patch uploaded on my site. Do you want them? 16 and 2 MB size but it will save you total reinstall.

jeremiah · « **Reply #22 on:** March 28, 2003, 11:31:16 PM »

Got the dialogue loop as well. Oh well, not really interested in the epilogues. Will copy over the saved game folder (I backed the whole directory up before all the mods and see how it goes).

It is not a good idea to use weapons that can stun on Melyssan, she hovers to near death for a pretty long time.

Same with Yaga Shura. Alcastra's dart (from Freedom's Reign), Rainbow Sword (FWItem pack), CF +5 and Bloodbane can cause that.

jeremiah · « **Reply #23 on:** March 29, 2003, 03:06:31 AM »

Well after copying a pristine backup of the BG2 game folder and then applying the mods with the latest versions, was able to finish the game properly.

However Sarevok's epilogue ran twice

.

Also I had to do it twice as Melyssan wouldn't die, maybe I missed Gromnir but she would just hover at near death for a long time. Oh yeah, that was when I changed difficulty setting from normal to core just after I touched the last pool so that could be the cause (phantom Gromnir).

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The Dude · « **Reply #24 on:** April 07, 2003, 06:43:10 AM »

Ok, I got the loop too. At the same place as that other guy. Damn Balthazar, I'm gonna try uninstalling and reinstalling Ascension. If that doesn't work, I'll just kill the bastard instead of trying to make him be my friend. :ph34r:

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