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Offline Echon

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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #75 on: March 18, 2014, 11:44:44 AM »
Quote from: The Imp on March 18, 2014, 11:30:02 AM
Actually that was the Black Isle Studios, not BioWare... and I am pretty sure one can throw away the hope of the source code access.

BioWare developed it and used it for the BG series, and licensed it to Black Isle Studios.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_Engine
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #76 on: March 18, 2014, 12:02:53 PM »
Echon's right, Bioware was the original developer and copyright holder of the Infinity Engine code. (It was subject to certain licenses, like the underlying D&D ruleset, but the code itself was theirs.) Interplay published the IE games that Bioware wrote, and Interplay licensed the engine for Planescape and the IWD games.

I believe at some point over the past ten years Hasbro ended up owning the engine, however, because Bioware's copyright was disappearing from re-releases of the games.
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2014, 01:03:10 AM »
Wait, but Bioware still created the content, right? I mean, deleting Bioware logo from BG games is like... well, deleting Rowling's name from Harry Potter books.
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #78 on: March 21, 2014, 12:16:15 AM »
:falls into an alcohol pile of maudlin and cackles madly:
muttering: YOU FOOLS; It's Atari!!
or, just ask Beambog, whatever, who they pay royalties to.
But it IS NOT BLACK ISLE STUDIOS. (my heroes) for sure, nor is it
EA the fucktards. And I'd bet real money it's not biofuck because they
were beholden to.. who? Interplay.
(psh. sorry J)
final edit: who were they bought by? Atari/Hasbro, if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #79 on: March 21, 2014, 12:46:52 AM »
Quote from: Kulyok on March 19, 2014, 01:03:10 AM
Wait, but Bioware still created the content, right? I mean, deleting Bioware logo from BG games is like... well, deleting Rowling's name from Harry Potter books.
no because bioware was still atari at that point.
(which is what makes bioware the bitch they will always be. go Obsidian!)
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #80 on: March 21, 2014, 10:16:24 AM »
Bioware was its own separate entity when the BG games were developed. It is now owned by EA. (And it was never owned by Atari or Hasbro.)
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #81 on: March 21, 2014, 11:02:17 AM »
The point that Cyber was to make is that the D&D PC rights went to Atari from Bioware, and Atari then gave them to Beamdog to use in the Enhanced Edition, still retaining a part of them.
Due to a law suit against Bioware about the BG:Dark Alliance 1 & 2, a part of the Baldur's Gate setting went to Snowblind Studios, that was part of the TimesWarner, than then went to Hasbro. Or something to that effect-----

The whole thing is a huge pile of a mess. And no body has the source code.
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #82 on: March 22, 2014, 11:00:13 PM »
Quote from: jcompton on March 21, 2014, 10:16:24 AM
Bioware was its own separate entity when the BG games were developed. It is now owned by EA. (And it was never owned by Atari or Hasbro.)
No, bioware was Iplays dev and BIS was a subsidiary to bioware.  I thought bioware had the engine and atari has story rights to the forgotten realms, hence their mmo's of both dnd and nwn.
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #83 on: March 22, 2014, 11:02:23 PM »
Quote from: jcompton on March 21, 2014, 10:16:24 AM
Bioware was its own separate entity when the BG games were developed. It is now owned by EA. (And it was never owned by Atari or Hasbro.)
bioware is still a BITCH to devs (EA, etc) which is funneh, considering that's why it supposedly broke free from iplay and left bis in the dust (and broke iplay, eventually). SO GLAD Obsidian (bis) rose to the task and is CONQUERING.

*OH, and bioware was not it's own entity when bg was developed. It was under interplay, Jason.  Oh, wait, I said that before. Sorry, again. Feh!
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #84 on: March 22, 2014, 11:10:17 PM »
Quote from: The Imp on March 21, 2014, 11:02:17 AM
Due to a law suit against Bioware about the BG:Dark Alliance 1 & 2, a part of the Baldur's Gate setting went to Snowblind Studios, that was part of the TimesWarner, than then went to Hasbro. Or something to that effect-----

The whole thing is a huge pile of a mess. And no body has the source code.
the source code to what? the engine? really? wow... sources? :D
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #85 on: March 23, 2014, 09:44:10 PM »
Quote from: Cybersquirt on March 22, 2014, 11:02:23 PM
*OH, and bioware was not it's own entity when bg was developed. It was under interplay, Jason.  Oh, wait, I said that before. Sorry, again. Feh!

You've got it backwards. Black Isle was the Interplay subsidiary. Bioware really was a stand-alone entity.
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #86 on: March 25, 2014, 01:42:54 AM »
Quote from: Cybersquirt on March 22, 2014, 11:10:17 PM
Quote from: The Imp on March 21, 2014, 11:02:17 AM
Due to a law suit against Bioware about the BG:Dark Alliance 1 & 2, a part of the Baldur's Gate setting went to Snowblind Studios, that was part of the TimesWarner, than then went to Hasbro. Or something to that effect-----

The whole thing is a huge pile of a mess. And no body has the source code.
the source code to what? the engine? really? wow... sources? :D
sources, please. because this will get boring.
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #87 on: March 25, 2014, 01:50:18 AM »
bioware FUCKED interplay. any then couldn't ever make it on it's own. sad, really.
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #88 on: March 25, 2014, 02:48:57 AM »
Quote from: jcompton on March 21, 2014, 10:16:24 AM
Bioware was its own separate entity when the BG games were developed. It is now owned by EA. (And it was never owned by Atari or Hasbro.)
Bioware tries to be it's own entity but still it develops squat, on it's own. Unlike bis/osidian. after bioware left interplay to crash (and bis, by extension) - supposedly because it wanted to stand on it's own, it NEVER DID.  Instead it partners with EA. To repeat the pattern.  Fuck bioware. Go OBSIDIAN.

How was bioware it's own seperate entity? Being a dev to iplay?
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #89 on: March 25, 2014, 04:00:08 AM »
Quote from: Cybersquirt on March 25, 2014, 02:48:57 AM
How was bioware it's own seperate entity? Being a dev to iplay?

As has already been said a couple of times, yes. Here is a source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldur%27s_Gate
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Re: Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition
« Reply #90 on: March 28, 2014, 12:52:45 AM »
Quote from: jcompton on March 21, 2014, 10:16:24 AM
Bioware was its own separate entity when the BG games were developed. It is now owned by EA. (And it was never owned by Atari or Hasbro.)
Bioware was a dev to the pub: iplay for bg1.  Atari bought iplay. don't know when but it's why the mmo's dungeon's and dragon's online (ddo) and neverwinter knights (or whatever) online show their logos. so, yeah.  Atari owns the story, bioware owns the engine. ?
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