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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2004, 09:05:36 AM »
Just for the fun of it:

Let Minsc dualwield a mace and the FoA and let him run through some kobolds.
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But seriously now (it's hard but i'll try). I just overpowre them with all enchantments my spellcasters have and fight them hand to hand combat. Most of the time it works.
When it doen't, I have to run very hard and don't look back.
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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2004, 09:57:01 AM »
UU has a nice 'Greater Deathblow at a DistanceTM'- routine. Used to be a link in his sig. ;)
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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2004, 10:46:15 AM »
Jan Jansens Flasher Cruiser Bruiser IIRC. The Greater Deathblow becomes an area effect spell.
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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2004, 10:59:07 AM »
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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2004, 11:02:40 AM »
Greater Deathblow!(Userunfriendly)

Well, if I am writing this guide, you knew I would include this....this is my favorite cheese, and I invented it...once you get the high level ability greater deathblow, equipp an area effect weapon, and activate the ability and fire the area effect weapon into a room full of annoying fodder, like mind flayers and beholders, and every monster in the area of effect will die, dropping like poisoned roaches.  You see, most of the "fodder" creatures in the game, are below level 12. And greater deathblow completely ignores saves and magic resistance, if a creature is below level 12, being hit with any weapon while greater deathblow is active will insta kill them, no saves, no resistance, only deathward will protect them (darned drow priestesses!!!). Area effect weapons like fire seeds, courtesy of any druids, like Jahiera or Cernd...also arrows of detonation works great, so does the frag grenade ammo used with the big metal rod...

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Area effect nastiness includes the most useful ability, greater deathblow, but also includes smite, (blow all nearby enemies away from you like the wing buffect dragon ability) and power attack (a fighter version of power word stun, this is particularly nasty if you are using energy blades, you can stun almost anything with a volley of power attack energy blades) and poison weapon (poison a room full of goblins in one attack) and even if you dont have area effect weapons, its pretty awesome...try it with melf minute meteors or energy blades if you are a fighter mage, or have sola for quickly killing most of the enemies in a room fast....this ability kills mind flayers, beholders, trolls, vampires, umber hulks, drow, and some demons(tenari)...but certain individuals of these types are immune, since they are above level 12(does not work on named vampires, for example, and mindflayer liches, in the mindflayer lair in the underdark, and elder orbs or hive mothers...)....and vampires can be killed with greater deathblow, but you cannot hit them with +1 weapons, like frag grenade or arrows of detonation...use melf or energy blades to kill vampires fast...the usual rank and file fodder creatures that makes many "boss" encounters difficult can be slaughtered by this exploit, thus you can kill off the "support" enemies and concentrate your party attacks on the boss...who is feeling pretty lonely once its support creatures are dead.

 

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/9/04
« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2004, 07:05:01 PM »
Has anyone some good tactics for lich-slaying?

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2004, 07:08:02 PM »
Did anyone else not think of the possible conotations untill they reached the bottom of the page and he suggested there were some?

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #57 on: April 14, 2004, 09:34:25 PM »
Yea, why does Breach not work on liches? That pisses me off. I suppose I could just use unenchanted weapons, yes?

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #58 on: April 14, 2004, 09:43:58 PM »
Liches are immune to spells of levels 1-5.

They're also immune to unenchanted weapons.
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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #59 on: April 14, 2004, 09:59:36 PM »
Liches are immune to spells of levels 1-5.

They're also immune to unenchanted weapons.

That explains it, thanks Kish  :)

I'll add that tommorow

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #60 on: April 14, 2004, 10:32:43 PM »
Thanks Kish. I guess I'll be using SpellStrike on those damn things.

Next creature - what about drow - and I mean with magic. Can any spells "bypass" their resistance?

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2004, 07:47:28 AM »
Drow are strong, but any hand-to-hand combat should kill them if you intrerupt their spellcasters.
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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2004, 05:02:01 PM »
Drow are strong, but any hand-to-hand combat should kill them if you intrerupt their spellcasters.

I noticed that my two favorite 9th level spells (however cheesy they may be) dragon's breath, and comet work fairly well on them. Though you are more then likely not going to face a drow with that spell until you go to the Pocket Plane. Maybe not even then  :-\

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/9/04
« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2004, 05:13:43 PM »
Thanks to Kish for the help with Liches :)

If someone could please suggest a spell that is slightly lower leveled then Spell Strike..

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #64 on: April 15, 2004, 05:15:46 PM »
Liches walk very slowly.  When they cast Protection from Magical Weapons, your best bet is usually to run away and wait for it to wear off.

Comet will normally be blocked by drow magic resistance just like any other spell, unless you have the :ahem: Oversight Mod.  However, Sunfire goes through magic resistance.
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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2004, 05:38:10 PM »
That is why there is a mod that gives Liches the ability to teleport a party back to them. Very annoying for the 'waiting to wear off' trick.
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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/12/04
« Reply #66 on: April 18, 2004, 04:49:31 PM »
I added Umber Hulks, and I also noticed that my dates had a nine in the months catagory. Seeing as it is not September, I have changed it too four. :)

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/18/04
« Reply #67 on: April 18, 2004, 05:22:07 PM »
Umber Hulks rarely make their saving throws against Chromatic Orb, and they have few enough hit dice to die if hit by a Cloudkill or Death Spell.
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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/18/04
« Reply #68 on: April 18, 2004, 05:42:32 PM »
Umber Hulks rarely make their saving throws against Chromatic Orb, and they have few enough hit dice to die if hit by a Cloudkill or Death Spell.

I completley forgot about the Cloudkill. I'll add that right in, along with the others.

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/18/04
« Reply #69 on: April 19, 2004, 07:36:58 AM »
Any good defense against the Chaos spell? Dosn't matter what level my characters are, they cast that spell and my Warrior start hacking appart my mages while my mages try to be things up with their staffs? It seems that if they get that spell off, I might as well reload cause I ushually loose half my party to my own party.

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/18/04
« Reply #70 on: April 19, 2004, 09:35:54 AM »
Any good defense against the Chaos spell?

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/18/04
« Reply #71 on: April 19, 2004, 11:15:36 AM »
Nods, I've know about that one, just hoping their was something more convient that having to cast that spell 6 times, to protect my entire party.

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/9/04
« Reply #72 on: April 19, 2004, 11:23:26 AM »
i definitely need to start wearing my glasses when im at the computer..... when i read the title i thought it said "how to kill your mother"  instead of monster. :o

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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/18/04
« Reply #73 on: April 19, 2004, 11:38:58 AM »
nicely done :D
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Re: How to kill your monster and helpful tips 4/9/04
« Reply #74 on: April 19, 2004, 03:27:52 PM »
i definitely need to start wearing my glasses when im at the computer..... when i read the title i thought it said "how to kill your mother"  instead of monster. :o

I once misread Bri's fanfic 'Are you being served?' as 'Are you being screwed?'...

I saw a post that said (not in this forum) 'Merry X-mas!' and I thought It said "Marry my X!" :P