Eliminating an Amnish Guard

[Meridan]

Or replacing the guard From AR0709 - Den of the Seven Dales, he has no DV/just a genetic guard "BAMNG02" like most.

Can this be done without creating a new *.ARE? I tried various scripting methods designed to kill him, none worked, id like to stage a cutscene here
with guard/NPC dialogue finally ending in his death (note at this point NPC wont be in the party (Neutral Blue 128)) ?


I've had the NPC turn hostile shouting irenicus lines "you will suffer" billion times before dying in a cutscene loop

Ive had NPC pickpocket with See([ANYONE]) then fail with a Gobal, this did work, amusing but messy

Also had my new Item which is an updated to BG2 style/Dagger of Venom turn to 7 gold coins, no idea how I resolved this, filename
was originally "7SDAGG" renamed to "SafDag01" worked fine after this

[Andyr]

You could assign him a death variable with a WRITE_ASCII in your .tp2, or you could replace him with a new creature (with a death variable) by using REPLACE_TEXTUALLY on the .ARE. Then when they have death variables you can control them as you wish...

[Meridan]

In tp2...

COPY_EXISTING ~BAMNG02.CRE~ ~override~
WRITE_ASCII 0x280 ~S7guard~

But wouldnt this effect "all guards" with that CRE file in the entire game? unless ive misunderstood the method here.

or you could replace him with a new creature (with a death variable) by using REPLACE_TEXTUALLY on the .ARE. Then when they have death variables you can control them as you wish...

This sounds best, but how?

[Andyr]

In tp2...

COPY_EXISTING ~BAMNG02.CRE~ ~override~
WRITE_ASCII 0x280 ~S7guard~

But wouldnt this effect "all guards" with that CRE file in the entire game? unless ive misunderstood the method here.

Yep.

or you could replace him with a new creature (with a death variable) by using REPLACE_TEXTUALLY on the .ARE. Then when they have death variables you can control them as you wish...

This sounds best, but how?

Something like:

COPY_EXISTING ~BAMNG02.CRE~ ~override/myguard.cre~
WRITE_ASCII 0x280 ~S7guard~

And then:

COPY_EXISTING ~AR0709.ARE~ ~override~
REPLACE_TEXTUALLY ~BAMNG02~ ~myguard~

[Meridan]

Thanks it works now, that Inn started to look a bit crowded with the NPC spawned there, I had already decided to stage a conflict cutscene before NPC speaks  adding in yet another Actor, dealing with the guard too, this method kills two birds
 
Considered "Introduction" Areas, Trademeet was too far off, Copper Coronet was too packed, Irenicus Dungeon a pain if DBG was installed
this Inn seems perfect for early Intro/Disagreement-Conflict/Drop off point.

[Rabain]

For compatibilities sake is there a problem with just giving the guard cre a DV?  Any changes to a guard (such as killing him) would surely only take place inside the area the change takes place as you would be using a script to affect the change (the area script of the specific area) or does killing a guard with a shared DV have wider consequences for other guards in different area's using the same cre/DV?

I ask because it would be better imo to leave the existing creatures intact in an area for any other modder who may wish to use them.

[Andyr]

If the guard's not used anywhere else (which I suspect might be the case) then assigning a death variable to him straight off would be easiest, yeah.

[Meridan]

This guard serves as an interesting plot device, one of hardest parts of creating an NPC seems to me building up some kind of solid sub-story, his cutscene death isnt for nothing and allows the following actions to occur:

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BEGIN 7SSafa

IF ~Global("7SSafaAttacks","GLOBAL",2)~ SafNotices
SAY ~Who are you? what are you doing here?~ [NOBLW03]
IF ~~ DO ~SetGlobal("7SSafaAttacks","GLOBAL",3)~ GOTO SafMain
END

IF ~~ SafMain
SAY ~Are you actually speaking to me? A commoner? Oh, I think I might faint.~ [NOBLW04]
++ ~Hey! I recognize you, Safana? a surprise to see you here.~ + SafWhiteLie
++ ~Who are you? Are we supposed to know each other?~ + SafWhiteCont
++ ~Goodbye.~ + SafNobles
END

IF ~~ SafWhiteLie
SAY ~I'm not this "Safana" thee speak of, thou must be mistaken my <LADYLORD>.~
IF ~~ GOTO SafWhiteCont
END

IF ~~ SafWhiteCont
SAY ~I am ummm Carsa, Ah...yes, Carsa! With my ahem "little jar" thou shalt not be takin' a peek at that either, don't even ask.~
+ ~CheckStatLT(Player1,10,WIS)
CheckStatLT(Player1,10,INT)~ + ~Okay, nice meeting you Carsa, we are rather busy so we shall bid you a good <DAYNIGHT>.~ + SafNobles
+ ~Gender(Player1,MALE) CheckStatGT(Player1,16,INT)
CheckStatGT(Player1,17,CHR)~ + ~And My name is Drizzt Do'Urden, once of Menzoberranzan and now of Ten Towns.~ + SafDecepts
+ ~Gender(Player1,FEMALE) CheckStatGT(Player1,16,INT)
CheckStatGT(Player1,17,CHR)~ + ~And My name is Catti Brie.~ + SafDecepts
+ ~CheckStatGT(Player1,8,WIS)
CheckStatGT(Player1,15,INT)~ + ~Cease these games. I can see through your simple deception, you are indeed Safana.~ + SafHumours
+ ~CheckStatGT(Player1,9,WIS)~ + ~You will have to try better than that, Carsa's fate was stealed long ago this much I know.~ + SafHumours
++ ~I know this game lady, keep the jar.~ + SafNobles
END

IF ~~ SafNobles
SAY ~Fare thee well, then. I bid you safe travels.~
IF ~~ DO ~EscapeArea()~ EXIT
END

IF ~~ SafDecepts
SAY ~Really? Oh my! this is such an honour, good <SIRMAAM>.~
+ ~Gender(Player1,MALE)~ + ~I'm no more Drizzt than you are Carsa, cease these games Safana, you aren't very good at them.~ + SafHumours
+ ~Gender(Player1,FEMALE)~ + ~I'm no more Catti Brie than you are Carsa, cease these games Safana, you aren't very good at them.~ + SafHumours
END

IF ~~ SafHumours
SAY ~Lost your sense of humour since we last met? Really your so much fun, I should have stuck with Coran.~ [SAFAN22]
++ ~Maybe I could not comprehend your kind of wit.~ + SafShames
++ ~how did you come to be here?~ + SafAmns
END

IF ~~ SafShames
SAY ~What a shame, I was hoping fer.. some witty repartee, but if you insist.~
IF ~~ GOTO SafAmns
END

IF ~~ SafBye
SAY ~(sigh) So be it! if that's the way you want to be, then I guess this is goodbye.~
IF ~~ DO ~EscapeArea()~ EXIT
END

IF ~~ SafAmns
SAY ~I'm here in Athkatla on prearranged business, the rendezvous was to take place at this locale, unfortunately my accomplice never did show up, instead that sentry appeared.~
IF ~~ GOTO SafSentry
END

IF ~~ SafSentry
SAY ~I was adequately prepared, such a predictable turn of events whoever organized this charade shall pay dearly. Now <CHARNAME> perhaps you will answer my previous query Mmm?~
IF ~~ GOTO SafQuery
END

IF ~~ SafQuery
SAY ~Tell me, why are YOU here?~

Work in Progress

Im not a writer or a coder just a player, though im trying to learn both in this project, hopefully ill get this finshed, I dont see that being anytime soon for sure.

Over the last 3 days,
The initial cutscene is done as in it "works" no idea if my coding is solid, also the new CRE lvl 10/Dagger of venom, 0% banters or injections.

After reviewing that later cameo ive choosen to write the Coran quest out completely,  providing only a short cameo appearance, unless someone is working on him, in which case ill apply changes but that is a choice far away from the present stage.

Safana provide's a 3rd option (Yoshi/Jan) for theive's out of irenicus dungeon with possible alignment shift to EVIL/Corruption.
She has most points in "locks/findtraps/Stealth/move silently" skill wise a mold of imoen/yoshi...  her lock skill is 100, pretty bad set-trap wise.

Weapons: Dagger, Shortsword, Crossbow, one weapon style.

Class: she will stay as a pure thief, may add KIT options later but certainly no T/M.

Personality: sarcastic, selfish, similar to a non-drow Viconia - hopefully i've got this right.

Quests: one is planned in brynnaw - Pirate past, alot more for TOB to keep it interesting.

Given the intial scene im looking forward to dealing with Keldorn vs Safana dialogue

EDIT: Code updated with the removal of the murder plot, I decided to inject more fun into it rather than a serious murder plot that it was.
As above still a W.I.P The Paladin line's need ammending as does initial Join Party dialogue, Guard will be CE aligned.

[Andyr]

Interesting work. There are apostrophes missing from "don't" in a few places but otherwise it looks ok.