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Which character would you consider "standard" for any parties you create?

Aerie
5 (6.7%)
Anomen
7 (9.3%)
Cernd
1 (1.3%)
Edwin
3 (4%)
Haer'Dalis
0 (0%)
Imoen
23 (30.7%)
Jaheria
12 (16%)
Jan
1 (1.3%)
Keldorn
2 (2.7%)
Korgan
2 (2.7%)
Mazzy
0 (0%)
Minsc (and Boo!)
14 (18.7%)
Nalia
0 (0%)
Valygar
1 (1.3%)
Viconia
4 (5.3%)

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Author Topic: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party  (Read 16952 times)

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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2006, 04:21:09 PM »
No way to argue with Imoen / Minsc / Jaheira being meant to be with you all the way. I always take Imoen (first for storyline sake, but now she's one of my favs and always my main spellcaster). BG without Minsc is like Star Wars without Han Solo. You could have preety much the same story, but half the fun would be missing. Of course that's just me.

Jaheira, well, I don't know why I always keep her. Never tried to romance her but always feel kinda bad about ditching her. For romancing, Viconia is my all-time favourite. Aerie really doesn't work for me. I know, all the tragedy, I lost my wings and I need a new meaning to life and blah blah blah but Viccy is much more interesting to me, specially with the chance to (sort of) reddem her and all.

The last slot I usually keep as a rotating one so I don't miss out on most NPC quests. In ToB I keep the "mysterious NPC" because I really like that storyline element and well, because it's a hell of a fighter.

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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2006, 05:43:19 PM »
Imoen and Minsc are always in my parties, plus whoever I'm romancing. I tend to include Sarevok in ToB, but not always. The 2 slots left over depend on who I feel like.
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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2006, 08:57:55 AM »
Immy and Jahs. Jahs gets to leave when I'm using a Fighter/Druid or a Ranger/Cleric.

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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2006, 01:18:35 AM »
Wow... I would have assumed that more people would choose Keldorn... The man can solo the game, for god sakes!

This is what I had for a while:

Keldorn, Anomen, Jaheria, Kelsy, Valygar,  My Fighter/Thief
« Last Edit: July 04, 2006, 01:21:11 AM by bryad »

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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2006, 03:38:17 PM »
In BG1 Imoen is literally thrust into your party without any choice on your part, so she's a given.  The next characters you meet are Xzar and Monty, and since you often need the help they are in.  Then comes Khalid and Jaheira, Gorion's friends, and you are given and explicit quest to meet them.  That's a full party in BG1.

By the time you meet Garrick, Kaigan (if you find him at all), Minsc, Edwin, or Branwen (and even Kivan, and Ajantis) you likely have a full party already, with some experience.  Branwen, Garrick, and Kaigan are up for anything, but Minsc and Edwin want to go rescue/kill Dynaheir, while four characters already in your party want to solve the mystery in the Nashkell Mine. So they are a no-go atm.

Now I remember when I first started playing BG1, wandering around nooblike and clueless, the Harpers and Zhents in the party tended to fight while I was in the mines.  Left to their own devices with no help from the PC, Khalid and Jaheira will almost always win the fight against Monty and Xzar.  That's two slots free, one of which likely filled with Xan temporarily.

Back at Naskell, Minsc is the most likely character to fill out the remaining party slot.  (Most people probably playing goodish/neutral characters.)  That leaves us with CharName, Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc, and Xan as the most likely party members in the Grand Generic Game.

The Xan slot seems kind of iffy though...  I remember ditching Xan in Nashkell and taking on Branwen, before rescuing Dynaheir.  Unfortunately, the logical person to go once Dyna is found is Branwen, assuming you want to retain Minsc.

After that most characters you will meet (like Alora, Eldoth, Faldorn, Yeslick, etc.) tend to be too far along in the game and the characters you met earlier are probably lagging in XP.

The most likely (imo) default party members in BG1 are CharName (ofc), Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc, and Dynaheir.  Obviously, that's what Bioware thought as well going into BG2.

In BG2 Imoen is once again a given, as she is the one to rescue you starting the game.  Since you meet Jaheira and Minsc in the cell room as well, they too can be considered "default".  That's four.  Yoshimo is likely a welcome addition in most people's first games, so he's in.  As the story unfolds, Yoshimo and Imoen can be considered to occupy the same spot in the party.  So the character count is still four, leaving only two open spots.

I imagine most people will meet Aerie first (assuming they explore the promenade thoroughly), then Nalia (since she bum-rushes you in the Copper Coronet), and then Korgan and Anomen.  Some other early (and easy) "gets" are Viconia and Jan.  Edwin, Keldorn, and Haer'Dalis are a bit harder to get to.  Cernd, Mazzy, and Valygar are outside of the city and so unlikely candidates for a default group also.  I'll eliminate Keldorn since the storyline seems to suggest he retires with his family, and Haer'Dalis as he has too many strings attached in the way of quests and having to rescue him.  That leaves me with Aerie, Korgan, Edwin, Nalia, Anomen, Viconia, and Jan.

Party composition is probably a concern for most people.  CharName is (probably) most often some kind of fighter-type (as is Minsc, and even Jaheira), so we can exclude Korgan.  Yoshimo of course is a thief, and Imoen can take care of everything the game requires as far as thieving skills go, so Jan can be safely left with his turnips unless he is filling a mage slot.  In spite of Jaheira being a good healer, a "real" cleric would be a very nice thing to have.  Additionally, though Imoen may be a mage, she is also in need of rescuing, so a mage of some sort is another good choice for one of the open party slots.  The choices narrowed down: Aerie, Edwin, Nalia, Anomen, Viconia.  Based on their class(es), we can put those characters into two groups: (clerics) Aerie, Anomen, Viconia and (mages) Aerie, Edwin, Nalia.

I'm pretty confident that the last two spots in the Grand Generic Standard Party are had by two of the above five characters.  But which two characters?

My gut feeling tells me to drop Anomen and Nalia.  I admit that Anomen annoyed me some when I first started playing (though he's grown on me some since then), and I've always actively liked Nalia.  Based on reading a lot of different opinions online however, I get the feeling that those two get under the skin of a lot of folks.  So goodbye, Nalia and Anomen.  That leaves just Aerie, Viconia, and Edwin.

Edwin is no doubt very popular, and hands down the best mage in the game.  However he is evil (somewhat important I think), a bit harder to get to in terms of plot, and there is a hint that he won't get along with Minsc (even though no real trouble comes of it).  I'm tempted to drop him, but that would leave me with Aerie and Viconia, and that's divine magic overload.  Rather than dropping one of those three, I'll instead pick a winner: which would be Aerie imnsho.

Aerie has a lot going for here, not the least of which is how early one finds her.  She also, in one stroke, fills two party composition needs (arcane and divine magic respectively).  She of course has a romance, a plus, even if Jaheira seems to be the designated winner.  We now have a solid party with Aerie, and the rest of the group: CharName, Yoshimo/Imoen, Minsc, and Jaheira.

Instead of picking just one character for the last party slot, I'll leave it as an "open" slot.  In fact, my first game was CharName, Yoshimo/Imoen, Minsc, Jaheira, Aerie, with the last being various characters I found along the way.  I remember Korgan, Anomen, Viconia, and Haer'Dalis being in my party for a decent amount of time.  Nalia and Keldorn had the spot the most however, but I let Keldorn go when it came time to chose if he should stay with his family or not.  After that I kept Nalia all the way through the Underdark and beyond.  I had planned on dropping her once Imoen was found, but that was not to be.  By the time I got out of the Underdark, she had too many spells and experience to try out Mazzy, Valygar, and the rest.

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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2006, 03:56:39 PM »
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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2006, 04:25:09 PM »

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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2006, 07:20:34 PM »
i usually go with the

1. PC (any class)
2. a Paladin class
3. a Fighter class
4. a Priest class
5. a Thief class
6. a Mage class

line up, so my party is

1. PC (usually a Fighter/cleric though)
2. Keldorn
3. Minsc or Korgan or Anomen
4. Jaheira or Viconia
5. Jan or Yosihmo/imoen
6. Aerie  or Nalia or Edwin

i never really use Cernd, Valygar or Mazzy much, or the new NPC's from mods, but i do use them.

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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2006, 10:56:00 PM »
Different games/different NPCs.

I like playing a mix, but there are a few guidelines

Female paladin pc
Imoen/Yoshimo
Anomen
Xan (sorry, but I usually SK him to vanilla mage because I like Melf's Minute Meteors)
Minsc
Keldorn (I let him go for a vacation with his family, play through a bunch of NPCs for their quests, then pick him back up before Spellhold)

Female cleric (elven)
Imoen/Yoshimo
Xan
Minsc
Keldorn (with vacation time)
Valygar/Mazzy

Male paladin
Imoen/Jan/Yoshimo
Jaheira
Minsc
Keldorn (as above)
Kelsey

Male cleric
Imoen/Jan/Yoshimo (Jan until getting ready to leave for Spellhold, then Yoshimo, then Immy
Saerileth
Minsc
Keldorn (as above)
Anomen (usually)

Next party:
Female cleric (elf)
Yoshimo/Immy
Minsc
Jaheira
Kivan
Xan

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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2006, 05:25:19 PM »
I like to solo my games. Usually as a c/m or t/m.

I rotated people around Jan once to see his banters (yeah, I know that I could have just read them, but 'Griffon tipping' is much more fun in the Umar Hills).
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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2006, 01:09:26 PM »
These are the NPCs I use from BG1-ToB:

BG1:

Imoen
Khalid
Jaheira
Yeslick (sometimes)
 
BG2:

Imoen
Jaheira
Keldorn (temporarily)
Valygar (sometimes, sometimes temporarily)

ToB:

Imoen
Jaheira
Sarevok

BG1: So you're pretty much a cock if you don't take Imoen. Khalid and Jaheira were Gorion's friends and seem quite willing to take up where he left off with me, so any decent person will take them into the party. Yeslick has a good case of sympathy going for him.

BG2/ToB: Again, cock if you don't take Imoen. I take Jaheira because she's a comrade from the first game. Minsc is possibly the most annoying character and I never take him into the party. I also do not like the voice actor who portrays him (and about a million other characters in and out of the BG game series). In fact I wish someone made a mod that made Minsc absent from Irenicus' dungeon. I don't take Yoshimo because, quite frankly, I don't trust him. Pardon the memories of assaults from Candlekeep to up and down the Sword Coast.

Anyway, Keldorn is a cool dude and I take him into my party long enough to do some things and then trigger his quest so he can retire to his family. I've often taken Valygar to the end of the game because I like him. If I don't do that, I'll take him to get the Planar Sphere quest and then eventually drop him off at his cabin.

I take Sarevok because he's my brother.




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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2006, 08:12:18 AM »
You don't trust Yoshimo, a fellow captive who begs your assistance, because of memories of assaults. You do however trust Sarevok, the man who tried to kill you countless of times and was the mastermind behind all those assaults, and who has all the reasons in the world to hate you and want you dead?

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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2006, 09:07:11 AM »
Jaheira and Imoen, because they were there from the very start in BG 1 and because I like their personalities, portraits and voices.

The more often I play BG2, the more I like both Jaheira and Imoen. I don't know whether I would have liked both so much if I hadn't played BG2 first and only far later BG1. They both don't appeal that much to me in BG1, but hardly anyone has a "real" personality there, since they have only little dialogue in the unmodded game. I just got the impression that they were the main character's friends in the first game, an important part of the pc's story prior to BG2 and that I simply had to take them along (I don't know why I didn't feel that way about Minsc); I didn't know that this was mere manipulation and that you could have sent them away or refused to meet them at all.

Lateron I was very impressed by Jaheira's and Imoen's banters and the SoA part of the Jaheira Romance. Even when I don't romance Jaheira, I can't do anything that really bothers her or even makes her leave the group.  :-[  I have an evil party this time and tried to play the new Harpers' plot, but upon Jaheira's reaction, I had to choose the "good" solution. My reputation is far too high for a supposedly evil group, but I'd do anything to make Jaheira happy.  ;)

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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2006, 04:29:17 PM »
I tend to go with an all male party, because the women do too much 'moaning' ;). With that in mind here's my party comp.

PC - Mage (Abjurer)
Keldorn
Korgan - Superb banter with Keldorn, they get along really well, even though they're opposite alignments.
Jan
Haer'Dalis
Anomen

It gives me 3 fighters, 1 thief, 1 cleric, 3 mages (inc. Bard spells) and works pretty well.

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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2006, 06:09:41 PM »
You don't trust Yoshimo, a fellow captive who begs your assistance, because of memories of assaults.

Yes, that's right. Is he really begging?


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You do however trust Sarevok, the man who tried to kill you countless of times and was the mastermind behind all those assaults, and who has all the reasons in the world to hate you and want you dead?

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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2006, 05:39:43 PM »
My latest runs have tried to br trim.

I've brought people along only insofar as they have a sub-quest; so Cernd gets to immediately retreive his son & head out after finishing trademeet; Keldorn gets to trigger his audultery quest, etc.  This, unfortunately means keeping Jaheira for an inordinately long time, while that stupid Harper quest works through.  And I dislike romancing her, so I go with the aerie romance.  Imoen gets dragged out to where she can get to the CC, unless I really really feel the need to have a pure mage.  My style is a single buffed fighter with AC as low as possible, and everyone else missle & spell.

My current run in SoA, I'm headed to do the second level of Watcher's Keep with  My F/M/T PC, Jaheira, Mazzy, and Aerie.  Once I hit ToB, it should be me and my Love interest only.
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Re: Standard Baldur's Gate II Party
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2006, 06:05:21 PM »
Wow... I would have assumed that more people would choose Keldorn... The man can solo the game, for god sakes!
Agreed.  True Sight, Dispel Magic, immunity to Charm/Hold and the ability to wield Carsomyr makes him a default choice in any of my parties.

 

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