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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2006, 04:34:03 PM »
I believe I saw in the Janus Reports that there's a corelation between how sexually repressive a child's upbringing is to whether or not said child will grow up and be into BDSM. Apparently, for some, the only way they can recieve gratification for something so "evil" as sex is to be punshed/humiliated or to punish/humiliate someone else. But plenty of otherwise normal people from normal families like BDSM-type activities as well . . . so, who knows about that?

The diapers and spanking thing is called umm . . . AB/DL, Adult Babies/Diaper Lovers or something like that. It's a machoshistic thing. Most machosistic fetishes and etcetera revolve a lot around shame and control. Again, I don't know whether that's specific to one country or not. I'd think that it isn't -- but is probably more likely to be seen in places where people have the means (money and free time) to pursue such an incredibly esoteric fantasy.

If AB/DL normally isn't a small enough group for you, you can always join the AB/DL furry "subset"-thing, of "babyfurs."

Most, if not all, fetishes have furry counterparts, though.
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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2006, 05:22:18 PM »
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Most machosistic fetishes and etcetera revolve a lot around shame and control.
Are you bashing the catholic church again? Most intimate relationships revolve around (the extend to which we relinquish)control.

I am quite sure there is a correlation between green tea and bicycle rides. It may not be obvious to the naked eye, but it is there.
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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2006, 05:43:06 PM »
Are you bashing the catholic church again?
Umm, jester, I'm pretty sure it was me who bashed the Church, not fcm. (Good work on the insinuation. Lots of weirdness can be traced right back to nuns with sticks. However, if jc locks this thread because it mentions the R-word, I will be very dark on you both.)

Percy Grainger is famous for being an Australian composer and liking to be whipped. According to the info I have read about it, his mother used to whip with a riding crop when he was child to punish him. This example does back up fcm's statement.

I wonder how widespread fetishes would be if not for the Internet. I had never heard of furry-fetishes untill an American told me about it/them - from whence does it originate? Is it an American-started trend? The pyschological imprinting leading to it must be an interesting process.
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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2006, 07:20:39 PM »
He's saying it's not common, Joe. Try using words like "allegedly" or "rumoured to be" - it greatly reduces your chances of being wrong.
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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2006, 08:44:35 PM »
I'm sorry, but saying "an allegedly common stereotype" is just retarded.

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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2006, 10:08:25 PM »
It is the absolute truth that the English do love a good spanking.


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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2006, 10:08:40 PM »
I wasn't insinuating anything about churches and masochism. Japan, for instance, enjoys much BDSM -- especially masochism. The Japanese have a very emotionally repressed outward society that's experienced rapid social change within the past couple of generation . . . it's an unusual situation. But, a lot of their pornography revolves around various control relationships and or humiliation. A lot of weird hypnotism and crazy-sex drug pornography/videogames come out of there.

On a much more seedy level, there's a lot of those said videogames that also deal with rape, especially the rape of virgins. In which, of course, the victim loves the process. I highly suspect this type of fantasy is common in many places. I have seen "rape" pornography (it's fake, no duh) and erotica from the US, among other places -- but it tends to not be nearly as explicit as the kinds of things that show up in Japanese videogames.

Furry erotica has widespread popularity everywhere. It's likely it originated in the US just because the kinds of cartoons and comics that furries are "inspired" by are/were made here. The annual Furry convention, AnthroCon has recently ben being held in my hometown, Philadelphia. Most of the furverts and non-furvert plain 'ol anthro-lovers I've met or talked to are from America.

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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2006, 10:22:57 PM »
I wonder how widespread fetishes would be if not for the Internet. I had never heard of furry-fetishes untill an American told me about it/them - from whence does it originate? Is it an American-started trend? The pyschological imprinting leading to it must be an interesting process.

Before the Internet, it's my understanding that "trends" spread largely through:

- Inter-office xerox copies
- Radio DJs
- Stock market tickers off-hours
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« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2006, 10:31:01 PM »
Don't forget HAM and CB radios!
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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2006, 10:44:47 PM »

Furry erotica has widespread popularity everywhere. It's likely it originated in the US just because the kinds of cartoons and comics that furries are "inspired" by are/were made here. The annual Furry convention, AnthroCon has recently ben being held in my hometown, Philadelphia. Most of the furverts and non-furvert plain 'ol anthro-lovers I've met or talked to are from America.

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« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2006, 10:49:16 PM »
I'm afraid I don't know who Wolfcat is. :(
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« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2006, 11:24:01 PM »
I'm afraid I don't know who Wolfcat is. :(

You'd be more afraid if you did. :)
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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2006, 01:37:22 AM »
It is a common misconception that anything increased through the internet. I think the proportions of everything from racists and perverts to people who exchange vegan recipes and tips for better living stayed roughly the same over time. Shame for us that education did not at least have an impact on the first group.

Will the internet deliver the promise of cheap education and equality that the tv did not? Sadly no for several reasons. The digital divide is sadly thriving.

As for perversions I am not certain I agree on the whole concept. Between concenting adults, anything goes IMO.
Finding likeminded people to get a sense to belong to a tribe seems to be a human urge. They flock to places to discuss aspects of outdated games they still very much enjoy to play and modify. I am fine with that.


...dammit I got sidetracked again. Sorry. Sort of. :P


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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2006, 02:07:00 AM »
Modding is not a perversion. Most of the time.
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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2006, 02:23:51 AM »
As said, I don't entirely agree on the concept of 'perversion'. I think consumerism is, our fixation on youth an wealth most likely is. The extend to which you shave your body or refrain from it? *shrugs*

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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2006, 02:30:27 AM »
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« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2006, 02:33:58 AM »
Whatever happened to Wolfcat?

Strangely enough, there's an answer to that question in the "Bugs Bunny" thread.
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« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2006, 02:52:30 AM »
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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2006, 12:11:02 PM »
Canadians are said to have a thing for doing it with their socks on, but if this is true (I can't vouch for it), then it would be for practical purposes (chilly feet!), not kink.

Even in discussions like this, Canada is boring.  In a way, this saddens me, not to mention the fact that I didn't know about this particular practice.  There's also the canoe thing, though.  I suppose that counts.
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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2006, 02:28:31 PM »
. . . There's a porn site where everyone wears elf ears and pretends to be all high fantasy and such. It's hilarious. Elf fetish . . . I'm usually pretty mature about those sort of things and don't laugh at other people's jollies, but . . . come on. Elf fetish.
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« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2006, 02:36:00 PM »
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« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2006, 02:56:09 PM »
Awww. The site doesn't exist anymore. Neither of them do. Damn elusive naked short softcoreporn-stars with plastic pointy ears! Well, I'll admit that I didn't look very hard.

So, a couple years ago, there were paysites for elf porn, but not any more.
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Re: Cultural weirdness- alleged or otherwise.
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2006, 02:57:53 PM »
Hmm, guess they all shaved there?
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« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2006, 05:08:21 PM »
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