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The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« on: October 10, 2005, 06:25:00 PM »
The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!

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The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!

The Jerry Zinger Show allows the PC and his companions to view (and take part in) the live talk show of Jerry Zinger, well known Amnish celebrity! Shows are daily, and executed largely by cutscenes.

The Jerry Zinger Show is the first Baldur's Gate II mod ever to include a brand new movie, created from scratch, which installs flawlessly.

The mod features:
  • Comprehensive Voicing
  • Unique Movie
  • A New area
  • The very latest in WeiDU coding
  • Nine laugh out loud episodes

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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2005, 07:51:03 PM »
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How much time did you guys waste making such a worthless mod?

This is a sad and/or sucky day in IE modding.

Edit: WAY TOO RUIN MY THANKSGIVING.

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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2005, 09:54:33 PM »
[drunk]

How much time did you guys waste making such a worthless mod?

This is a sad and/or sucky day in IE modding.

Edit: WAY TOO RUIN MY THANKSGIVING.

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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2005, 11:14:32 PM »
Well done Ghreyfain!

I do hope this means that you will stop venting your Moral Outrage at the quality of Moderators elsewhere!
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2005, 11:45:03 PM »
They're free to make jokes about mods I've made without being censored, if that's what you're getting at.
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2005, 04:01:05 AM »
Have you been censored as I can't recall?

They're free to make jokes about mods I've made without being censored, if that's what you're getting at.
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2005, 04:13:36 AM »
Oh, no. Not another thread with a starting post then 999 discussing a comment made by someone...
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2005, 04:47:08 AM »
Typically I'd agree.  I don't see anything wrong with the mod though, it ranks up there with Goo in terms of originality and humour.

Tis new at least, which I just hope people will see.  Objecting to it is all fair and well but at least give a quantifiable reason as opposed to "your mod sucks."
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2005, 04:54:40 AM »
I'm not saying you should not dispute the comment you don't agree with, probably you should, i'm just saying that too often things take such a turn (i.e. the matter at hand gets drowned in some argument)
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2005, 05:24:11 AM »
How much time did you guys waste making such a worthless mod?

Pray tell why it's worthless, mr Fain, and how you arrived to the sentiment. Did you play it through only to find that it's completely horrible, or did you just look at the name of the mod and the name of the authors before jumping to the conclusion?
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2005, 07:29:42 AM »
Typically I'd agree.  I don't see anything wrong with the mod though, it ranks up there with Goo in terms of originality and humour.
Goo was a brief project which served as an example of NPC development. This is a project spanning months which serves as [please insert coins].

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Did you play it through only to find that it's completely horrible, or did you just look at the name of the mod and the name of the authors before jumping to the conclusion?
At a wild guess, I'd say it might be something to do with the fact that you've made a mod based on Jerry Springer. :)

Also, I found a typo:
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Nine laugh out loud episodes
I believe you mean "Nine LOL episodes".

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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2005, 07:41:00 AM »
Wouldn't Cloakwood Squares be a better analogy than Goo?
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2005, 08:41:38 AM »
There hasn't been too many objections thus far (namely, two) and the forum is (and has been) there for any objections/criticisms to be made.

Pity you'd not chose to look at the positives.  It's a good sign that PPG & SHS have released a mod each recently.
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2005, 10:57:59 AM »
...or did you just look at the name of the mod and the name of the authors before jumping to the conclusion?

On the contrary, it saddened me to see things like "the first Baldur's Gate II mod ever to include a brand new movie" as being associated with a mod that, really, who's going to want to play beyond a quick glance?  With all the time you spent developing this mod, what other great works could you have made that people would've actually wanted to play?  I think you owe me like two Tutu quests and a shop, at the very least.

Typically I'd agree. I don't see anything wrong with the mod though, it ranks up there with Goo in terms of originality and humour.

Goo is terrible, and when people ask me to update him with new weapons or something, I laugh (at them or with them, sometimes both).  I tinkered with him until I knew how the ropes of NPC creation worked, more or less, then forgot all about him.

Wouldn't Cloakwood Squares be a better analogy than Goo?

I only ever played that one once, too.  As an exercise in modding skills, sure, it's great.  Last I heard, though, Conrad and Shed were already competent, and I'd prefer to be able to play--pardon my french--RAEL MODZ.

All that said, perhaps this was a good exercise in learning to do new things (the movie, for instance).  If that's the case, I guess that's cool.  As for merit on the playability scale, it's a joke mod, to be relegated to the Bin of Smelly Mods That Smell with the likes of the Turnip Golem and Goo.

Oh, and don't worry, you didn't actually ruin my thanksgiving. :)
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2005, 01:27:02 PM »
All that said, perhaps this was a good exercise in learning to do new things (the movie, for instance).  If that's the case, I guess that's cool.
Well, at least you admit it's not totally useless ;). It was fun to make and speaking for myself, I learnt some things along the way.

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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2005, 02:29:30 PM »
and the forum is (and has been) there for any objections/criticisms to be made.
The problem is, when we come to ShS and post our thoughts, we're frequently told to take them elsewhere, with the result that nobody's really quite sure where we're supposed to be putting this stuff.

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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2005, 03:34:31 PM »
Granted I haven't actually played the mod yet, but I did listen to the OGG files and they sounded quite good. 

Joke mod or not these guys did put some time and effort into it, plus I'm sure they had a great time whilst they did it.

We all need a few laughs these days... don't we?!  :P

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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2005, 07:00:19 PM »
I'm just checking to see if you weigh the same as a duck...

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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2005, 07:28:32 PM »
This is one of those suck ass mods yes? How lame can you get, really?

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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2005, 07:31:51 PM »
At a wild guess, I'd say it might be something to do with the fact that you've made a mod based on Jerry Springer. :)

I've been horrified since the concept first appeared. I completely loathe Jerry Springer and talk shows of that ilk. Hell, I hate watching Oprah! Imagining Jerry Springer-style cutscenes within BG2 is just repulsive to me, so I won't be giving this project a spin around the block like I typically do with NPCs and quests.

Wouldn't Cloakwood Squares be a better analogy than Goo?

Joke mods have their place, but a big distinction here is things like Cloakwood Squares and the Bruce mods were done over a day or two, not months. I think it's unfortunate that all that effort wasn't put towards one of the Studios NPC projects yet to be released. If you had fun making it, good -- that's a major reason to make any mod. From a potential player's standpoint, though, this isn't my idea of fun.
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2005, 01:54:18 AM »
Now I also hate Jerry Springer, so I haven't tried this mod... but I do believe we need more "joke" mods, especially with some effort put into them, not those 1 day ones. Several people here seem to suggest that spending few months on a joke mod is not a good idea... why? Are you saying only "serious" stuff can be done seriously ;)? Are you saying Terry Pratchett wasted his life away? :'(
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2005, 04:21:13 AM »
It's obviously a point for debate, but I just don't believe that a joke mod is inherently worse than any other type, regardless of the way it's put together, and its content. I think it's a bit sad to condemn this mod on the concept without taking the time to play it.

Ronnie Barker once said "It's better to make people laugh than cry", and I feel sure he had some kind of point.
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2005, 06:12:02 AM »
So if someone's intention is to make you laugh, they're wasting their time, eh? Try telling that to the creators of the Monkey Island games (the first two of which are widely regarded as two of the best games ever made), <insert your favourite comedian here>, anyone who's ever written a humourous fanfic, etc, etc.

I could make suggestions for numerous activities certain members of the community should stop doing in favour of spending more time working on their mods.  However, I won't, since their life is their life, and thus what they get up to is entirely up to them.   If someone makes a mod, most likely they *want* to make that mod, and no other member of the community has any right whatsoever to say what they should or should not be doing.  It's unlikely that the apparent "mod snobbery" being perpetrated in this thread is going to change their minds either.
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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2005, 09:14:55 AM »
For a game in which convincing immersion into the fictional world is paramount, there certainly seems to be a very strong case to suggest that a mod which adds sensible, believable content is superior to one which shatters this vital effect to achieve a few laughs. You can moan about hypocrisy or snobbery as much as you like, but it won't change the fact that if you think the best thing to add to BG2 is wall-breaking comedy then you're probably modding the wrong game. I'm sure a Chinchilla NPC might fit very nicely into Monkey Island (which I've never played), but in the case of BG2, it'd be a travesty.

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Re: The Jerry Zinger Show has been released!
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2005, 10:04:33 AM »
Remember that not everyone plays the game for its immersion factor.

So, do you think everyone who's ever written a humorous BG2-related fanfic has wasted their time too? That's a *lot* of people! :P
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