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Re: Modders are bad, bad people
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2005, 03:20:08 AM »
Out of curiousity, do other countries have content ratings for games?
I think we do... in form of sticers saying how old you have to be, but nobody is paying any attention to them.
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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2005, 05:36:05 AM »
Out of curiousity, do other countries have content ratings for games?
I think we do... in form of sticers saying how old you have to be, but nobody is paying any attention to them.

The UK gives games age ratings, so that no one under the specified age can buy the game.  However, there is nothing stopping someone underage playing them.
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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2005, 05:43:50 AM »

As for the stiff ultra-conservatives: take the sticks out.  ;)
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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2005, 06:22:39 AM »
In Italy, there is no censoring (that I'm aware of) and we get a rating (suggested age: 3+, etc). Guess what, when I was 8 I bought Quake and nobody cared.

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Re: Modders are bad, bad people
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2005, 06:44:15 AM »
The UK gives games age ratings, so that no one under the specified age can buy the game.
And it works incredibly well. What was then Electronics Boutique refused to sell someone I know an 18 game when he was 14 or so. He sent his younger brother back later, who bought it for him.

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« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2005, 06:53:48 AM »
Oops forgot to mention that by we I meant "Poles". It seems you've got more strict situation, I'd be bewildered should a shop refuse selling a game "18 and more" to a 7 year old. Don't think that's possible. ;)
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« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2005, 06:56:59 AM »
And it works incredibly well. What was then Electronics Boutique refused to sell someone I know an 18 game when he was 14 or so. He sent his younger brother back later, who bought it for him.
Do you mean older by chance?  :P

It's way better in Italy, since we don't have to send older relatives/friends, nobody gives a shit about your age (except when we talk about driving license)... at 10 you can go in a shop and buy cigarettes/alcohol/pr0n material/condoms without any kind of problems  :o
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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2005, 07:17:46 AM »
Are there countries with age restrictions on condoms? Seriously? ???
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« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2005, 08:24:36 AM »
Are there countries with age restrictions on condoms? Seriously? ???
From a trip to England some time ago, I learned that you can't have lawfully sex before 15. Therefore, logic would say that before 15 you shouldn't be able to buy condoms  :)
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« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2005, 09:09:50 AM »
Personally, I'd rather a 14 year old who's going for it be able to buy condoms and not get the girl pregnant, as opposed to them going for it and her rollin a littleun off the production line at that age cause someone said that 14 year olds can't buy rubbers.
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« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2005, 09:24:24 AM »
Personally, I'd rather a 14 year old who's going for it be able to buy condoms and not get the girl pregnant, as opposed to them going for it and her rollin a littleun off the production line at that age cause someone said that 14 year olds can't buy rubbers.
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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2005, 10:11:21 AM »
Umm... you can also kill the prostitutes and take your money back that way. But that's ok as long as you don't see any boobies.

The prostitute thing in the original GTA3 was one of those things that sounds much worse on paper than in practice: oh, my, so a woman enters your car, the car shakes, and there's a cute sound effect, she leaves, and you lose some money! OMG CORRUPTING OUR CHILDREN!

I've seen how the prostitution plays out. The only thing about it that really bothers me is the option to shoot her in the head and loot the body afterwards. I'm aware that you can kill pretty much everyone in the GTA games... and I suppose the prostitute-killing particularly grates on me because of a couple of serial killers who have targeted them in recent years, and been essentially left alone to operate freely for a long time, because nobody cared. So yeah, crossover of real-life outrage, just because of the imagery.
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Re: Modders are bad, bad people
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2005, 11:16:10 AM »
Are there countries with age restrictions on condoms? Seriously? ???
From a trip to England some time ago, I learned that you can't have lawfully sex before 15. Therefore, logic would say that before 15 you shouldn't be able to buy condoms :)

Actually, it's 16 in Britain. :)  And you can buy them before that age, though it's really up to the shop owner.
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« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2005, 12:12:01 PM »
You can also get them from your GP (for free IIRC) at any age.
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« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2005, 03:43:06 PM »
"At any age" is not entirely correct - the GP has to be certain that a) you are sexually mature (i.e. your body is ready) and that b) you understand the consequences of your actions.
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« Reply #40 on: July 17, 2005, 04:40:13 PM »
Do you mean older by chance?  :P
No, younger. They were sufficiently inconsistent with their age checks that it didn't actually matter.

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« Reply #41 on: July 17, 2005, 05:26:00 PM »
Actually, it's 16 in Britain. :)
If accompanied by adult guardian, then?
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« Reply #42 on: July 17, 2005, 06:56:52 PM »
Uh, no.  Both in the case of the act of sex and the purchasing of contraceptives, those over 16 (and under!) most certainly do not need to have an 'adult guardian' present.
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« Reply #43 on: July 17, 2005, 09:13:48 PM »
Yippy sex.
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« Reply #44 on: July 18, 2005, 08:17:24 AM »
About sex with guardians - I always had fun reading about kings who on their wedding night (throughout the night)  were acompanied by nobles/bishops to provide witnesses that the marriage was consumeted, it was imporatant in few cases cause we had a few cases were a woman was in fact elected a ruler, but since it was not possible for a woman to rule her husband did so in her stead, and they were afraid of political enemies trying to use the "non consumatum" clause against the king to overthrone him.
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« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2005, 08:27:23 AM »
About sex with guardians - I always had fun reading about kings who on their wedding night (throughout the night) were acompanied by nobles/bishops to provide witnesses that the marriage was consumeted, it was imporatant in few cases cause we had a few cases were a woman was in fact elected a ruler, but since it was not possible for a woman to rule her husband did so in her stead, and they were afraid of political enemies trying to use the "non consumatum" clause against the king to overthrone him.
If eye witnesses aren't enough, until some time ago, in Italy (especially the southernmost zones, such as Sicily) there was the habit of hanging out of the window for some weeks and then preserving the bed sheets used on the wedding night, to prove the consumption of the mrriage and the virginity of the wife.
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« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2005, 08:50:20 AM »
Why is another one of the Umar chicken missing?

Having a bishop peeking over your shoulder certainly made a kings sex live quite enjoyable. Although the 'ius primae noctis' was not so bad for them. :P
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« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2005, 10:12:23 AM »
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(that'd be an 'on topic' warning - feel free to keep on discussing sex laws)

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« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2005, 10:14:20 AM »
About sex with guardians - I always had fun reading about kings who on their wedding night (throughout the night) were acompanied by nobles/bishops to provide witnesses that the marriage was consumeted, it was imporatant in few cases cause we had a few cases were a woman was in fact elected a ruler, but since it was not possible for a woman to rule her husband did so in her stead, and they were afraid of political enemies trying to use the "non consumatum" clause against the king to overthrone him.
If eye witnesses aren't enough, until some time ago, in Italy (especially the southernmost zones, such as Sicily) there was the habit of hanging out of the window for some weeks and then preserving the bed sheets used on the wedding night, to prove the consumption of the mrriage and the virginity of the wife.
So it seems that Italy was more prudent... A quote from Blackadder: (price soon to be married to his father) "My lord I bring trgic news... she is not a virgin!" "Yes, yes I know, her uncle told me about it!" (quote from memory) ;D
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« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2005, 10:26:43 AM »
Why is another one of the Umar chicken missing?

Having a bishop peeking over your shoulder certainly made a kings sex live quite enjoyable. Although the 'ius primae noctis' was not so bad for them. :P
BTW Bishop's presence was more than necessary - one of the cases I was referring to was marriage of Stephen Bathory whose Queen was over 50 at the time so the bishops were blessing them "during the act" in order to make god grant them child. Which he didn't. Anyway the queen was also exeptionally ugly and seemed to liked the sudden attention payed to her body, so on the folling nights she tried to get into Bathory's bed, who was forced to invent quite clever reasons why it was impossible (being only "husband to the rulling queen" in the formal sense he couldn't just tell her no) Oh, history is the finest comedy ;D
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