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Modders are bad, bad people
« on: July 16, 2005, 08:15:38 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050715/en_nm/media_sex_dc

I can't believe that anyone would add sexual content to a game. :p
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Re: Modders are bad, bad people
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2005, 08:21:29 AM »
Politician = moron.

What is R*'s fault if a mod adds sexual content? Bioware should be sued for the explicit sexual description in Kiara&Zayia, then?

BTW GTA:SA rocks  :)
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Re: Modders are bad, bad people
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2005, 08:51:52 AM »
The mod doesn't add the interactive sex scenes per se. They were distributed in the game's data, but are unavailable without the mod, in the same sense as a lot of our UB stuff. It's ludicrous to blame Rockstar either way.

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Re: Modders are bad, bad people
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2005, 09:01:26 AM »
So it's not the organised crime, theft, drugs and murder that's got them bothered, it's the sex.

And what's a "mature" rating supposed to indicate anyway?
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Re: Modders are bad, bad people
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2005, 09:50:13 AM »
And what's a "mature" rating supposed to indicate anyway?
That the customer is old enough to be charged as an adult when caught acting out scenes from the game in RL.

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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2005, 01:27:33 PM »
So it's not the organised crime, theft, drugs and murder that's got them bothered, it's the sex.
Well, our civilization is like that. It's fine to fly a plane and drop napalm on little children, but's it's a crime to show them human genitalia.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2005, 01:34:22 PM »
Guys, we're talking about America, what did you expect?

http://www.google.com/search?q=missionary%20site%3Adumblaws.com for a small selection of American common sense. Florida, Montana, North Carolina and Virginia felt the need to ban all sex position other than the missionary one.

You make the call about the holier-than-thou-ness of American lawmakers.
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Re: Modders are bad, bad people
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2005, 01:35:36 PM »
I've always found it interesting that male genitalia is far less taboo than female. (I'm actually unfortunate enough to find the criteria for content rating quite intriguing.)

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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2005, 01:36:52 PM »
I've always found it interesting that male genitalia is far less taboo than female.
Probably cause it's easier to spot anyhow ;D
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2005, 01:39:50 PM »
That's because lawmakers want all the female genitalia for themselves.

In SA, it's even possible to use a dildo as a weapon (and this doesn't need any kind of mod, getting it is needed to finish the game), if we really want to pick on sexual content  :o
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Re: Modders are bad, bad people
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2005, 03:08:26 PM »
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Democrats sucking up to tight-asses around the country?? Is it election time already? Since god created everything in a fortnight she also created all the wonderful tools to make your sex and video game life this little more enjoyable than your average evening in front of the tv. So basically good parenting is about raising illiterate, science-hating virgins who are religious fanatics. You know what? The grass is starting to look the same on either side of the fence. :(
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2005, 03:15:55 PM »
So basically good parenting is about raising illiterate, science-hating virgins who are religious fanatics.
Those who believe in something feel forced to make other people believe the same thing. Perhaps that's why in Alabama science teachers have to teach the Creationist theory the same time as the Darwinian theory, while Religion teacher's don't have to teach Darwinian one.
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Re: Modders are bad, bad people
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2005, 05:33:44 PM »
So sex is bad? But being a hood killing people in a gang is ok? Drugs, buying or selling is ok? Gotta love the fucked up politicians in my lovely country.
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2005, 06:45:49 PM »
This isn't the first time a mod like this had made, though it's certainly the most controversial.  Anyone remember the nude Tomb Raider and Sims skins? I even recall hearing about a porno mod for Deus Ex a couple of years back.

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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2005, 06:51:37 PM »
I think people on the whole are probably moderately less offended by low-resolution nude Sims skins than by a minigame in which your goal is to bring the pleasure meter to a climax by tapping a pair of keys to control how you slide it in and out.

No, really, I haven't played it! It just uses the same controls as going to the gym. :)

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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2005, 07:00:48 PM »
Since GTA:SA is the third? one in the series, I think this shows it takes pollies a long time to notice what's going on in the world.
Didn't No.1 have a facility where the driver could have sex with a prostitute and then drive off without paying?(Possibly Vice City.) At least sex with a girlfriend suggests a relationship - which is an improvement, really. In a twisted kind of way.
Interesting they are objecting to something the person has to choose to add to their game in the privacy of their own home. Pollies like objecting to people making choices.

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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2005, 07:16:08 PM »
At least sex with a girlfriend suggests a relationship - which is an improvement, really. In a twisted kind of way.

Heh, I watched a clip put together from the mod scenes... relationship!  ::)  He doesn't even take off his pants while she's totally nude.  :P

And Sim claims there's less of a taboo regarding male genitalia... ;)

Out of curiousity, do other countries have content ratings for games?
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2005, 08:08:16 PM »
I've always found it interesting that male genitalia is far less taboo than female. (I'm actually unfortunate enough to find the criteria for content rating quite intriguing.)

 where?

 I actually thought there were x-rated games.

 Thank God they don't know about infinity engine modders! Or for that matter most Harry Potter or LOTR fanfiction.

 

Democrats sucking up to tight-asses around the country??

 Dems often do this type of thing. It's why I either vote Libertarian or Constitutionalist. The record rating system was pushed by Tipper Gore. Ya know the real winner of the 2000 US election, Al Gore, his wife.


Those who believe in something feel forced to make other people believe the same thing. Perhaps that's why in Alabama science teachers have to teach the Creationist theory the same time as the Darwinian theory, while Religion teacher's don't have to teach Darwinian one.

  That would actually be "Intelligent Design" theory. There is really no reason for a religion teacher (which no public school has) to teach science. The argument from the "Intelligent Design" group is that it is just as provable as Darwinism. As to your "Those who believe ..." that cuts both ways. Tyranny whether it is by the majority over a minority or the minority over the majority is equally wrong. No?  I would also point out that Alabama is a state in the United States, it is not the whole country.

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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2005, 08:42:28 PM »
I always thought Hilary was cool, now she's just a bitch. "Oh god I'm offended by the sex! It reminds me of Bill and that whore."   ::)
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2005, 09:14:58 PM »
We have content ratings here:the highest rating is MA+15. Any R rated games are censored to fit into the MA category and sex and violence are removed. Gamers complain constantly that "good" bits are censored when the games are released here. Like the dancing girls in one of the Duke Nukems that would twirl their breasts for you if you paid them money, and you could shoot them if you wanted to. There was outrage that both these parts were cut. Strangely, the effect where, if you shot someone and then walked through the blood, you left bloody footprints behind was not edited out. The chip/ data to re-install the cut parts are usually freely available on the InterNet.

I assume the thinking behind the clothed man/nude woman is
1. no woman will be playing this game because women don't play computer games and so we don't need to provide titillation for women (there may also be an element of Women Should Be Pure and not require titillation)
2. Showing nude men might make the players feel inadequate (oh my god! my penis doesn't look like that!)
3. Clothes= power/protection, nudity=vulnerability
4. the people who design and make the game are immature arseholes with no respect for women. And their mums should give them a good talking to.
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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2005, 09:19:04 PM »
Hell just make it policy sooutside mods can't be made. Us moderators are evil eil people! We are drug addicts, drunks, whores, pimps, devil worshippers, killers who try and "sell" our product to the innoccents of the world.

Yeah that's itt. I know I'm a druggie drunk that makes sacrifices to the great one..
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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2005, 09:38:20 PM »
I think people on the whole are probably moderately less offended by low-resolution nude Sims skins than by a minigame in which your goal is to bring the pleasure meter to a climax by tapping a pair of keys to control how you slide it in and out.
Ah, I didn't realize this was actually interactive.  Still, even that has been done before; I remember hearing about a fan game made using the really old sierra adventure game engine (the 16 colour text-based one used in Police Quest 1, Space Quest 1, and of course Leisure Suit Larry 1) called Sex Quest, where you goal is to "score" with a certain woman.  Once that's done, you get to play out your "reward" via a mini-game... though of course the blocky EGA graphics would mean it's far from realistic.

Since GTA:SA is the third?
Fifth, though for some reason the developers decided that neither Vice City or San Andreas are "Grand Theft Auto 4"; presumably when GTA 4 actually does come along, they're aiming to revolutionize the series or something.

The reason you (as well as many other people) might have heard there are only three games in the series is because the first two GTAs used 2D graphics and were cult (as in, not many bought them, but those who did loved them) PC, PS1 and Gameboy games.  When the series went 3D and from PS1->PS2, it suddenly got ultra popular.
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Re: Modders are bad, bad people
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2005, 10:16:49 PM »
Huh, I didn't think any IE engine mods were explicit--and no, braiding someone's hair is not X-rated.


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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2005, 12:52:27 AM »
Didn't No.1 have a facility where the driver could have sex with a prostitute and then drive off without paying?(Possibly Vice City.)

Umm... you can also kill the prostitutes and take your money back that way. But that's ok as long as you don't see any boobies.

I also noticed that the San Andreas soundtrack features one of Buju Banton's fine gaybashing dancehall numbers, and wonder if I should take that to mean that Rockstar supports such things, or that whoever chose the music didn't understand the patois.
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2005, 01:18:37 AM »
Didn't No.1 have a facility where the driver could have sex with a prostitute and then drive off without paying?(Possibly Vice City.)

Umm... you can also kill the prostitutes and take your money back that way. But that's ok as long as you don't see any boobies.

I also noticed that the San Andreas soundtrack features one of Buju Banton's fine gaybashing dancehall numbers, and wonder if I should take that to mean that Rockstar supports such things, or that whoever chose the music didn't understand the patois.

The prostitute thing in the original GTA3 was one of those things that sounds much worse on paper than in practice: oh, my, so a woman enters your car, the car shakes, and there's a cute sound effect, she leaves, and you lose some money! OMG CORRUPTING OUR CHILDREN!

Compare that with any prime-time TV.