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Offline Cashews

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Re: Boo quest: Minsc THAC0
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2007, 01:46:01 PM »
Personally, the first time I finished this quest, I corrected his Thac0 and Strength with Shadowkeeper. I don't know if his strength increase is a bug or a bonus however. I could see it as such, now that he has his precious Boo back, but the Thac0 thing is definitely an error.

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Re: Boo quest: Minsc THAC0
« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2007, 01:53:34 PM »
The timing modes on Minsc's THAC0 adjustments are incorrect. The issue should fix itself at the next level-up, however.
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Re: Boo quest: Minsc THAC0
« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2007, 09:49:03 AM »
The timing modes on Minsc's THAC0 adjustments are incorrect. The issue should fix itself at the next level-up, however.

Yeah well, but when I added XP via the console and leveled him up, it wasn't fixed.

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Re: Boo quest: Minsc THAC0
« Reply #53 on: August 30, 2007, 01:58:06 PM »
also did get this permanent thac0 bonus

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Re: Boo quest: Minsc THAC0
« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2008, 01:12:09 AM »
Just thought I'd add, since no one seems to have noted it:

It -does- fix itself on levelup... sorta.  Very slowly.  What happened in my game is that I wouldn't get further improvements to Minsc's THACO until he had caught up to his "enhanced" THACO.  Then he'll start getting improvements to his THACO again.

So, to be specific:  I did the quest with Minsc at level 9, and the bug made his THACO base 7, which it shouldn't be until he hits level 13.  Minsc won't get any more THACO improvements until he hits level 14, when his THACO will then correctly become 6.

So it's not "permanent".  But it will last a pretty long while, with the bug's effect slowly diminishing over time and levels.

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Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2008, 11:17:46 AM »
I just finished the kidnapping of Boo quest with the usual groveling and saying that she didn't need any gems to make her beautiful.  I thought I remembered in the past that she then gave you several gems as a reward since she didn't need them.  This time she just returned Boo and did the bootlet spell but I did not receive any gems.  Am I not remembering this corectly or has this changed?  Thank-you for your help.

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #56 on: February 27, 2008, 08:36:22 PM »
Well finally found in another thread that someone else was not able to get the bundle of gems in version 16.  Has anyone played version 16 and received the bundle of gems that it seems to say you should be getting?

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #57 on: February 27, 2008, 08:53:17 PM »
You probably saw my post about it.  Yeah, I couldn't get the gem reward either, but I did get a gem bag if you tell her to use all her jewelry.

Oh, and v16 is just v15 with spanish translations added.

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #58 on: February 27, 2008, 11:49:02 PM »
I think it was decided that a big ol' handful of jewels was an over-the-top reward for a conversation quest that early in the game, especially with all the other benefits you could get . . . it made the quest too much of a candy store.

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #59 on: February 28, 2008, 03:23:16 PM »
Fair enough.  Can't really argue with that at all.  The free license to cast in Athlatka is a pretty good reward all by itself, and Minsc's strength boost on top of that doesn't really require anything else to make it very worthwhile (even if it was unintended, heh).

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« Last Edit: February 28, 2008, 03:25:15 PM by Qwinn »

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #60 on: February 29, 2008, 06:00:24 PM »
Thats good to know.  I was just worried I had a bug popping up.  Can't complain about them taking the gems out with all the other stuff you get.  Though they modify the dialouge a little. like "I would give you these gems but you would probably spend them on cheap ale and cheaper women".   Nalia: "hey, why were you looking at me when you said that!"

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2008, 09:29:41 AM »
My two cents.

I'm not too thrilled with being transported to the druid grove since it causes continuity issues with the game if the party hasn't heard of Trademeet yet. Also after all of that hassle on getting Boo back, fighting the unkillable trolls, being confronted with druid nonsense, and trying to fight my way through the grove without proper troll killing spells like flame and acid arrow, etc., I expected those gem stones when brown-nosing that elitist mage. But no those were taken out too. On top of that I forgot that you can get the license for ridding the CWs of the mage's presence. Triply denied!

My point is that it would be better to have the characters transported somewhere close by instead of halfway across Amn. Someone suggested the random area in the sewer section of the Copper Coronet, the one with the minotaur. You can even dress it up with whatever. I think this would be more appropriate considering the gems are cut from the reward. As it is now the quest was too much of a pain.

I miss those gems! :(

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #62 on: August 28, 2008, 06:54:34 AM »
Hi everyone.
I cann't complete Boo quest( Boo just disappeared, and i go in docks, but there are no characters, or signs that lead to completing this quest. I walked every corner of docs, and talked to everyone, and nothing(( I digged web to find walkthrough of this quest, but found nothing again( I Just read that if i will leave docks, Minsc will go away soon, and i don't want that. Please, help me with completing this quest. Where should i go first?
Thanks!

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #63 on: August 28, 2008, 09:42:50 AM »
Iirc you have to go into the top level of the Sea's Bounty and talk to the boy there by a few men.  The quest will continue from there.  Did you talk to them or did you just speak to everyone outside in the Dock's area?

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #64 on: August 28, 2008, 10:51:16 AM »
THANKS A LOT!
i missed that damn kid(
now quest is going on!
thanks again!

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #65 on: August 28, 2008, 04:37:53 PM »
Cool!  Enjoy!    :)

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #66 on: December 21, 2008, 06:46:56 PM »
Hmm, just emailed cliffette about the gem issue, I had replayed that encounter 20+ times trying to figure out how to obtain the gems spoken of in the spoilers section of the cut-quest readme.  Ok, now I know.  I'm feeling a little deprived that I never got the gems and stuff......................

Anyway, I also changed Minsc's Thaco and strength back with shadowkeeper (assuming they were bugs, especially when minsc's 93% was still there).  The strength bonus is OK, but +5 THACO is way too much, I'd rather see that go than the gems.  My $.02

Lastly, what are the changes in v17, the readme hasn't been updated (that I noticed anyway).

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #67 on: December 21, 2008, 06:51:40 PM »
BTW, regarding the boolet spell.  I've noticed two cre files in the mod wwwrat and wwrati, wwwrat is a rat with high resistance to damage while wwrati is boo (I think) with guaranteed saves and 100% magic resistance.  Why are there two creatures and do you have any control over which one you get with the spell, or is it random., or is one just obsolete?

I've read a couple of posts here that say they deal out damage.  Really?   Never noticed my boolets make a successful attack, they seem to be nothing more than decoys.................

Am I right, or am I not realizing the full potential of boolets?

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2019, 10:42:26 PM »
So.... 11 years is a long time to necro this thread, but just thought I'd point out this issue apparently still isn't fixed. Thanks to wwboo.spl (apparently wwfboo.spl does the same) Minsc not only gets a huge adjustment to THAC0 of 5 which persists for a good chunk of the game, there's also a permanent -1 adjustment to his Armor Class. It's either an embarrassingly overpowered reward or a bug.

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #69 on: November 24, 2019, 06:17:34 PM »
Apparently the issue isn't wwboo.spl itself or wwfboo.spl... it's the fact WWELLE.dlg can apply the spell TWICE rather than just once that's the issue, which ends up applying the THAC0 improvement twice (it's supposed to apply once so that Minsc can recover from his initial thac0 penalty that happens when his strength drops to 10 etc upon finding out Boo is missing).

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2021, 07:48:44 PM »
And... this issue with the massive thac0 bonus still persists.

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #71 on: August 30, 2022, 12:03:30 AM »
Just posting to confirm what Icarus300 has said: Minsc received a *titanic* upgrade to his THAC0. Furthermore, the reported best reward (getting the gems) didn't work.

This quest seems utterly broken.

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #72 on: September 27, 2022, 08:19:11 PM »
Wow. This quest's bug is STILL not fixed after all these years...  ;D >:( ???
It's a rather silly quest to begin with; as implemented it's one of the components of UB that feels more obviously fanmade and... this bug makes it even sillier.

At this point the bug almost feels like a feature that's appropriately adding to the silliness.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2022, 08:29:36 PM by ithildur »

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #73 on: November 03, 2022, 04:47:35 PM »
I'm working on it.  I don't think there is much I can do about the general silliness of the quest without massive rewriting for which I am absolutely not qualified, but the issues with the reward I can definitely fix.

A common misconception seems to be that UB is all about restorations.  It's not and never was.  It's about putting in stuff that was missing.  Restorations were only a part of that, finishing up loose ends, closing up plot holes and addressing other cases where players felt left hanging was the rest.  Some of it was based on stuff in the game files, some came from interviews with the devs like David Gaider, and some were just "Hey wouldn't it be cool if...?"

Yes, Minsc's quest is mostly original content, because Minsc didn't have a personal quest like most of the other recruit-able NPCs did.  The only part of it that is an actual restoration is the jade figurine, that really is a dummied out item.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2022, 04:48:31 PM by Angel »

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Re: Boo Kidnapping - Reward
« Reply #74 on: November 07, 2022, 02:25:58 AM »
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Yes, Minsc's quest is mostly original content
If you write original content I get confused, because "original" to me means "inside the game files, written by the devs", but I guess you mean original as in "written by the UB modders"? Is this an native speaker/ESL thing?

 

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