Can you be immature forever?

[Dark Raven]

Resistance is futile.

[Da_venom]

indeed

life is just futile, the only end you have is death

and what purpose could u posssibly have in life?

every man makes mistakes, makes good or bad choices, does this mean someone else is more important than someone else?

and in time you will be forgotten anyway

[Veloxyll]

Resistance is futile.

I was going to say that

[ED]

Things can make you more mature, but that doesn't mean you're not immature.   Generally, the best way to prevent becoming 'a grumpy old fart' would be to stay away from careers in the military, or being an auditor / accountant.  Even then you can still have a playful side, too.

[discharger12]

Things can make you more mature, but that doesn't mean you're not immature.   Generally, the best way to prevent becoming 'a grumpy old fart' would be to stay away from careers in the military, or being an auditor / accountant.  Even then you can still have a playful side, too.

I thought 'grumpy old fart' was immature?

[Eral]

Because life ends in death does not make it futile. It makes it chaotic and orderly at the same time. Because it is entirely up to you what you choose to do with it: the lack of purpose in life just makes it more important that you choose well. This is your hour on the stage. Are you going to eat ice-cream and do the things that are important to you or whinge about how short life is and not have any fun? Just because you are unimportant in the Grand Scheme of Things doesn't mean there's no point to being alive. 
Once I accepted the purposelessness of life, I really felt a lot better about the whole thing. (Jester is always right.)
Of course, you are free to sulk in the sand-pit if you want to. Just don't take your bat and ball and go home. Or take anyone else with you.

You know the military world-wide would be vastly improved if they all had to wear party hats and play non-competitive games every day. Fairy dresses instead of fatigues, which would also be good for the Balinese economy. I think we should still let them have guns because that seems so important to them, but a change in uniform might give them a better sense of perspective.

[Dark Raven]

To quote Curt Cobain from one of his great Nirvana songs. "I miss the comfort of being sad."

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. 

Ho ho it's off to a goth party I go.

[Da_venom]

Because life ends in death does not make it futile. It makes it chaotic and orderly at the same time. Because it is entirely up to you what you choose to do with it: the lack of purpose in life just makes it more important that you choose well. This is your hour on the stage. Are you going to eat ice-cream and do the things that are important to you or whinge about how short life is and not have any fun? Just because you are unimportant in the Grand Scheme of Things doesn't mean there's no point to being alive. 
Once I accepted the purposelessness of life, I really felt a lot better about the whole thing. (Jester is always right.)
Of course, you are free to sulk in the sand-pit if you want to. Just don't take your bat and ball and go home. Or take anyone else with you.

You know the military world-wide would be vastly improved if they all had to wear party hats and play non-competitive games every day. Fairy dresses instead of fatigues, which would also be good for the Balinese economy. I think we should still let them have guns because that seems so important to them, but a change in uniform might give them a better sense of perspective.

life is nothing but lies
for example in a country where democracy is polished
people say the civilians rule and that the people are free
well the civilians don't rule  they just do a vote and the goverment makes the best thing out of whatever comes out of the votes and then makes their own rules
and no single human is free cause you always have to go by the rules wich stupid idiots made up, so if u ever go your own way you either end up in prison or die

second dumb thing is that all those stupid bastard care more for money than for food or water
in fact they care more for money than life


there are just too many humans on earth

but i can go on for ages, but the fact is that humans are just stupid herd of cows

[ED]

Actually, there is still plenty of room for more humans.  We could easily reach 20 billion.

The problem is that we'd need to share, to be smart with resources, to change lifestyles.  And humans aren't good at that, so it's not gonna happen.

There aren't too many people, there are too many stupid people.   

[Oddsbodskins]

[genuine curiosity]does that figure include other forms of animal life?[/genuine curiosity]

[Cybersquirt]

(It's only a democracy when it suits them.  For example, George changed his mind a few times - Is was a republic when he need to justify his first win via the electoral college and it was a democracy when he needed to justify his war.  But anyway, the US is not an actual democracy - I don't think any country is.  What form of government we are, in reality, is surely a matter of opinion  )

Life is nothing but what you do with it.  If, for example, one is that disillusioned with the current state of affairs, all one need do is act (through 'proper' channels) to try and get things resolved - even if nothing actually gets resolved, the action itself is quite cathartic.  Speaking from experience: merely "bitching and moaning" only leads to bitterness and depression.  It would make one a verifiable old Fart.

Stupity is a matter of opinion.  What is stupid to one is probably not stupid to another.    And I'm certainly no cow.   

(possibly interesting) numbers: current world population 6,428,658,709; current US population: 295,808,050.
www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html

[Nihilistic Dream]

But anyway, the US is not an actual democracy - I don't think any country is

Holland(+many other european countrys) is. in our country you can set up your own party for the elections, we have rules agains overpaying your campaign. And so on and so on. if i turn 21 i can be a minister...or maby the president....if people are stupid enough to vote for me.

and its not that we have to many stupid people. we have to many stupid people with stuff that where made by smart people.
its like giving a monkey a shotgun. or electing bush.  i believe you need 1 of the 2. only smart people or only stupid people.

Beeing mature is just saying "Im not boring, im mature"

[Da_venom]

well you see if there is only smart people then there can't be dumb people wich means that there can't be smart people as well:)

the one cannot do without the other

[Nihilistic Dream]

euhm....some paradoxes are no paradoxes... like yours.
Becouse if you think your way then just the memory of stupid people will prove we are smart. think on that.

If there was no evil. there still would be good. but only in the eyes of people who can tell the difference.
If we didnt know the earth is round then it still would be round.
i can keep on going with those arguments. 

[Regullus]

 Here are two hypotheses:

1) 2/5ths of a population never reach the abstract thinking stage.

2) The last section of the brain to develop is the judgement portion and it does not finish its development until the age of twenty-five.  

 Is abstract thinking and judgement indications of maturity? I would say yes. Is liking teddy bears, 'Kimba' tees, silly jokes or roleplaying games a symptom of immaturity? I would say probably not.

 I used to think that an unfortunate side effect of maturity or age was inflexibility of thought but in reading this thread I realized that inflexibility of thought is quite probably the truest sign of immaturity.

 I am not directing that statement at any of the participtants in this thread. I was just reminded of myself when I was a teenager. I remember when I was nineteen of feeling like I knew it all and I felt if I was ninety. This may have had something to do with the fact that I lost 2/5ths of immediate family by the time I was seventeen (a dramatic way of saying I lost my father and brother).

 The saddest side of maturity is the ability to see how many of us hopelessly complicate our lives to our detriment.

 Sorry for the cheery post.

 @Nihilistic Dream - Have you ever seen the movie"The Big Lebowski?" There are some very funny moments involving nihilists.

 

[Nihilistic Dream]

I am not directing that statement at any of the participtants in this thread. I was just reminded of myself when I was a teenager. I remember when I was nineteen of feeling like I knew it all and I felt if I was ninety. This may have had something to do with the fact that I lost 2/5ths of immediate family by the time I was seventeen (a dramatic way of saying I lost my father and brother).

Hear ya. i feel old to. go my portion of bad things in my life to.

The big Labowky? havnt seen it. whats labowksy about?
I got my name of a Rancid song, Nihilisim. (+ it was what the russian used to keep there citizen stupid) Denounce the truth and people will become stupid. look at the americans.

[Regullus]

@ND - "The Big Lebowski" is a movie about mistaken identites and the complications that arise and bowling, and in a funny way about being immature forever. It was made by the Cohen brothers, who also made "Raising Arizona" among other interesting movies and starred Jeff Bridges. It is an odd and funny movie.

[jester]

The movie clearly states that it is no fun to be a German Nihilist's girlfriend IIRC.

[Nihilistic Dream]

Oww... isnt that the movie about The dude? and he gets mixed up with an other labowsky and then he gets in all theys compleetly stupid and derranged storys. and all he wants is a new rug. that one fucking beutifull.
Trowing your friends ashes into the see but the wind is in the wrong way and you get your friends ashes all over you.
that one rocked.

[Regullus]

@ND - That's the movie. I have re-rent that movie, the more you see it, the funnier it gets.

[Da_venom]

euhm....some paradoxes are no paradoxes... like yours.
Becouse if you think your way then just the memory of stupid people will prove we are smart. think on that.

If there was no evil. there still would be good. but only in the eyes of people who can tell the difference.
If we didnt know the earth is round then it still would be round.
i can keep on going with those arguments. 

you very wrong

if there is no good there cannot be evil
you see there has too be a difference before u can make a comparison

like for instance if there would be only goodnes people wouldn't say it was goodnes because there is no evil way so people can't see evil or good without a comparison

and the world is round that has nothing to do with a comparison

[Cybersquirt]

^ it was another argument toward the point they were trying to make.

Without good how could we know evil.  But evil is not necessary for good to exist.  In other words, Just because we don't know something does not mean it doesn't actually exist.

[Da_venom]

^ it was another argument toward the point they were trying to make.

Without good how could we know evil.  But evil is not necessary for good to exist.  In other words, Just because we don't know something does not mean it doesn't actually exist.

Without evil how could we know good. but good is not necesarry for good to exist. In other words you make a difference and so long there is a difference, then the one thing needs the other thing.

every counterpol has use of the other because they make the difference and without any difference then the 2 would not exist

[Cybersquirt]

I think my brain just froze.   

What?

(you're going to have to do better than that)

[Da_venom]

well then mr.frozen brain 
why don't you tell that what i just said so you can understand it?

how do i write so well that you can understand what i'm saying