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Bibbi's Research
« on: June 27, 2004, 08:01:15 AM »
Revised list of what I've shown so far, plus a little extra.  I have some things I'm still looking up, but it's mostly lovetalks now, so I'll sift through those and post the rest of what I have...



@65779 = ~Ice Mist~
@65780 = ~Ice Mist~

a creature of some kind...I don't think it's in the game...?

@65910 = ~What of the inevitable pain you must give to the one you love?  The ranger you name 'Valygar'.~ [HGWRA108]
@65913 = ~Wh-what do you mean, inevitable pain?  <CHARNAME> has brought me only great joy!~
@65914 = ~You know nothing of what you speak.  You belong with my failed ward, however, you who are a murderer as much as <PRO_HESHE>.~
@65915 = ~What is so inevitable?!  <CHARNAME> has fought the greatest foes...there is nothing that could come between us!~
@65916 = ~It is my choice as much as his, Gorion... though I doubt that is truly who you are.~
@65917 = ~I have no objection to pain, fool.  I would stand by <CHARNAME>, regardless.~
@65918 = ~<CHARNAME> has brought me no pain, spirit.  Quite the contrary.~
@66029 = ~N-no!  No, I...I can't accept this!  I won't go through this again!  <CHARNAME>, please...make it stop!  I can't bear this!~
@66030 = ~Gorion, stop this!  He doesn't deserve this!~
@66031 = ~Enough!  I won't let this continue!~
@66032 = ~Don't believe it, Valygar!  It's a lie!~

Wraith encounter

@69940 = ~Rowyn~
@69941 = ~Rowyn~

The person who appears in the wraith encounter

@68007 = ~So the time of your victory has finally arrived... and now you must decide whether to leave this world  and your mortality behind forever.  Not a simple decision, <CHARNAME>.  Or is it?~
@68008 = ~What do you think I should do, Valygar?~
@68009 = ~I don't want to leave you behind, Valygar.  I love you.~
@68010 = ~I'm sorry.  I feel I have to see this through, I have to accept my birthright.~
@68011 = ~No, it isn't that simple at all.~
@68012 = ~I'm not very qualified to advise you, <CHARNAME>.  I've never been very comfortable with power.  The thought of attracting the attention of other gods, some who might be jealous, would not sit very well with me.~
@68013 = ~But I know that you'll make the best decision.  You always have in the past, and I trust that you always will in the future.  You laugh at me for such confidence, but I believe it.  You are unique beyond anyone I have ever encountered.~
@68014 = ~If you stay with me, I can only offer the solace of my company.  I would love to continue our journeys together... there is much that we could still do, many places we could go.~
@68015 = ~But if you leave, that doesn't mean I will love you any less, <CHARNAME>.  I will remember you, and hope that the power you gain will make you happy.~
@68016 = ~If you've taught me anything, it's that power isn't something to always fear.  I only hope that the life you choose isn't one you regret.  As for me... our time together has been worth everything.~
@68017 = ~I love you as well.  I wouldn't blame you for not wanting the power and the taint of your sire... but I would ask you to reconsider if you were to refuse it simply to remain with me, <CHARNAME>.~
@68018 = ~Truly?  I could not see myself deciding the same.  To attract the attention of the gods with such power would not sit well with me, although the idea of exploring the planes is attractive, I'll admit.~
@68074 = ~Then this is good-bye, <CHARNAME>.  I wish you well, my love.  With luck, we will meet again.~
@68075 = ~You... will stay a mortal, after all of this?  Then I cannot wait for our journey to begin, my love.  Our new future awaits.~

the end dialogue, with PC chosing to become a god and mortal

@69025 = ~It's true.  Part of my profession involves the use of stealth in the wilderness, and I've felt like nothing more than a giant, clumsy lummox compared to some of the graceful halflings in my old unit.~
@69028 = ~Ha ha!  That is good to hear.  But a clumsy lummox you are not, Valygar.  Your skills are impressive.  There's not a ranger in Trademeet who could perform half so well.~
@69029 = ~Now you flatter me.  I, ah... I hope you do know that I have developed an... attachment to <CHARNAME>, Mazzy.  I... wouldn't want to hurt you, after all...~
@69030 = ~Now you flatter me.  Careful, or we'll make the others gag.~
@69031 = ~Truly spoken, my squire.  Fair enough, then... let's get moving.~
@69032 = ~Ah, my heart still belongs to my poor Patrick, Valygar.  But I am grateful that you would think enough of me to spare my feelings.  Thank you.  I wish you and <CHARNAME> all the best.~
@69033 = ~That means a lot to me, Mazzy.  Let's get back to the others before they miss us, shall we?~

the alternative ending to a Mazzy-Valygar banter where Valygar is romancing the PC

I'm posting all of the Valygar romance threads I can, just in case

@66277 = ~Gained 10 Hit Points~
@66278 = ~Lowered Saving Throws by 1~
@66279 = ~Gained 5% Fire Resistance~
@66280 = ~Increased All Stats by 1~

where are these rewards?  I don't think they're pocketplane or machine of lum...  I looked them up but couldn't find anything

@66551 = ~Yes, oh yes.  Call on me you may.  Use my recipes for you will I, make the shiny ones.  Have not done this for some time, no...no new master have I.~ [BOTSM17]
@67017 = ~Well, I don'ts see anything else I can makes.  So much for that, over and out, see ya...wouldn't wanna be ya and all that.  Cespenar going, now...I wants a nap, maybe.~ [BOTSM87]


for when cespenar was still summonable by the bottle?


@67085 = ~Brown Dragon~
@67088 = ~Brown Dragon~
@67113 = ~Brown Dragon Acid Breath~

I checked and I don't think this is the same as Draconis, he uses a different template than the brown dragon

@67123 = ~Yellow Dragon~
@67124 = ~Yellow Dragon~
@67145 = ~Yellow Dragon Scorching Sand~

cut dragon

@67591 = ~Turned Paladin~
@67807 = ~You find signs of <CREATURE> in the area.~
@67808 = ~Irenicus reaks!~
@67809 = ~Kobold Amplifier~
@67826 = ~A lamp.~

I'm not sure about these.  the turned paladin might be possible with evil clerics, but does this actually happen ingame or only if the party's evil cleric turns someone?  what paladins besides keldorn would be in ToB? 

The second one might be tracking, but I didn't find anything on NI
I looked up the kobold and found a bunch of unused kobold files, including three amplifiers, a recorder, scribe, slave, swift.  they're all in the same CRE area as the kobolds used ingame (kamikaze, commando, captain)
don't know about the lamp or Irenicus
« Last Edit: July 01, 2004, 05:31:35 PM by Bibbi »

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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2004, 12:09:44 PM »
The ones about Athkatla being sacked, the Twisted Rune mercanaries, the Rune getting impatient and several of the others are definitely present.
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2004, 12:09:45 PM »
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@65779 = ~Ice Mist~
@65780 = ~Ice Mist~

is this an attack by some creature?

In fact, and since there are two strings, I'd say it's an actual creature (like a Crimson Mist or Vampiric Mist)


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@65910 = ~What of the inevitable pain you must give to the one you love?  The ranger you name 'Valygar'.~ [HGWRA108]
@65913 = ~Wh-what do you mean, inevitable pain?  <CHARNAME> has brought me only great joy!~
@65914 = ~You know nothing of what you speak.  You belong with my failed ward, however, you who are a murderer as much as <PRO_HESHE>.~
@65915 = ~What is so inevitable?!  <CHARNAME> has fought the greatest foes...there is nothing that could come between us!~
@65916 = ~It is my choice as much as his, Gorion... though I doubt that is truly who you are.~
@65917 = ~I have no objection to pain, fool.  I would stand by <CHARNAME>, regardless.~
@65918 = ~<CHARNAME> has brought me no pain, spirit.  Quite the contrary.~
@66029 = ~N-no!  No, I...I can't accept this!  I won't go through this again!  <CHARNAME>, please...make it stop!  I can't bear this!~
@66030 = ~Gorion, stop this!  He doesn't deserve this!~
@66031 = ~Enough!  I won't let this continue!~
@66032 = ~Don't believe it, Valygar!  It's a lie!~

the cut Valygar wraith encounter, which we know about.  the rest of the lines for it are cut, so we can't really know more about it, other than I think it was someone named Rowyn who appeared.  There are strings with just her name later on

And her creature file is lovedone5.cre, IIRC. We knew about that one.


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@66050 = ~It...it is the Master...the Master come again!  No...hold...~
@66051 = ~No, it is but a vessel for the Master's power!  An abomination!  Kill it!  Kill them all in the name of Bhaal!!~


is this in the forest of mir, one of the undead cultists?

Sounds like the PC turned into Slayer Form in front of them, though.


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@66277 = ~Gained 10 Hit Points~
@66278 = ~Lowered Saving Throws by 1~
@66279 = ~Gained 5% Fire Resistance~
@66280 = ~Increased All Stats by 1~

where are these rewards?  I don't think they're pocketplane or machine of lum...

Deck of Many Things? The last one was already on our list, IIRC.

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@66412 = ~The Specter's Ring
A ruthless assassin of Tethyr known only as the Specter used this ring to great effect many years ago.  Striking completely unseen, his victims' demises were often attributed to angry ghosts and spirits.

STATISTICS:

Special:  Cast Improved Invisibility on the wearer once/day~

Dropped by Fll'Ysse'tat.

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@66483 = ~With the final page of the manual restored, the full scope of the enchantments within the Manual of Golems can be unleashed.  The user must have a minimum Intelligence of 16 to understand the contents of the tome.

STATISTICS:
Cast Juggernaut once/day (see below)

This spell causes an Iron Golem to appear at the caster's side for 10 rounds. The golem serves two purposes:

   First, it will attack any enemies it can see. 
   Second, the golem acts as a magical shield for the wizard, absorbing all melee damage inflicted on the caster for up to 5 blows.  If the caster is struck 5 times the golem is dispelled.   

Juggernaut Golem:
AC: -2, hit only by +2 or better weapons.
HP: 99
THAC0: -1, fists act as +2 weapons.
Damage: 8D8, +2D6 and stunned if target fails save vs spell

Usable By:
Mages
Bards
~

I'm sure these are in, I just forget them.  as for the golem, I know it's in, but does it have all of the stats listed above?  I thought it was just a small description.  maybe this was cut like some of the other item descriptions?

I checked, it's like that in the game.

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@66552 = ~Can not cast this spell during combat.~

I'm not sure when this line pops up ingame

Uhm... Maybe Call Familiar?


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@67123 = ~Yellow Dragon~
@67124 = ~Yellow Dragon~
@67145 = ~Yellow Dragon Scorching Sand~


cut dragon

Cut from Abazigal's lair, yes. Also see bazplo03.itm - Yellow Dragon Eggs.


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@67140 = ~The King and Queen of Tethyr are gathering their own forces in Myratma.  Posted a big bounty on some <PRO_MANWOMAN> who destroyed a town in the east.  There's bound to be war all over Tethyr soon, it seems.~
@67141 = ~I heard Athakatla was sacked within the last month by the Sythsillians.  And then the great ogre, himself, was revealed as a Bhaalspawn and killed by some fire giant.  Incredible story, I think.~
@67142 = ~I heard an army tore through Schamadar a month ago to reach a powerful wizard's tower.  He was a Bhaalspawn, and the city was razed just to destroy him!  They said you could see the battle for miles.~
@67143 = ~Bah!  Unless you are a mage I have nothing to say to you!~
@67144 = ~Begone, fool.  I care not for your worries.~
@67146 = ~You seem a learned type.  Are you part of the Twisted Rune hired by Balthazar?  I don't recognize you...~
@67147 = ~The Rune is getting impatient.  Balthazar claims we will be fighting an army of dragons soon, but refuses to send us out or tell us when the battle will begin.  And he seems to despise working with us...why he would even bother is beyond me.~
@67148 = ~They say Balthazar is a Bhaalchild with great powers.  Perhaps he plans conquest?  It does not appear so...although appearances can be deceiving.~
@67149 = ~I have heard that there are numerous prisoners being kept in the fortress.  Bhaalspawn, even.  They say that Balthazar is hunting his own kin and imprisoning them.  Interesting, no?~
@67187 = ~When Gromnir Il-Khan arrived with the remnants of his army, he quickly drove out Count Santele and his forces.  The Count wasn't missed...at least not until Gromnir proved to be worse.~
@67188 = ~A few tales have been circulating that Count Santele is amassing a Tethyrian army a day's march away that will soon attack the giant's army...and execute Gromnir once that is complete.~
@67189 = ~The nerve!  One of those loutish mercenaries made an indecent proposal to me!~
@67190 = ~I was told that there is an army of dragons ready to launch an attack on us.  They come from somewhere called Abazigal.  Have you ever heard of such a place?~
@67191 = ~Most people in Saradush wish that mage, Melissan, who cares for the Bhaalspawn as Elminster watches over those who harp, had brought her charges elsewhere for their safety.~
@67193 = ~They say Esamon once stole an idol from right inside the Monastery!  What a daring, rakish rogue he is!  Uh... please excuse me, I feel a little flushed at the moment.~
@67194 = ~Gromnir has had his wizards seal off the castle gates magically, and not even the servants have been able to come and go.  There are some who claim that there is still a secret entrance inside, however.~
@67195 = ~Several sources claim that a section of the old underground jail was sealed off somehow because it is full of monsters.  How they got there no one is sure.~
@67196 = ~There are many wild tales of vampires being loose in the city, though no-one seems to have any details.  Who would notice victims going missing in all this chaos?~
@67198 = ~It is said the King and Queen of Tethyr have been extremely busy gathering their own army to counter at least two others which have been ravaging the countryside, not including Gromnir's and the giant's forces.  Destruction has been widespread.~ @67200 = ~Many Bhaalspawn have been put to the torch elsewhere.  In Calimport, one warrior godchild was hunted in the streets by the forces of a local sultan.  Bounties have been placed on many others, as well.~
@67203 = ~It is said that the town of Starmantle was half burned to the ground by an unknown army over a month ago, all to get at a Bhaalspawn wizard in his tower.  He was beheaded, so the story goes.~
@67206 = ~The sewer system of the city has been completely sealed off from entry.  Rumor has it that the army outside tried to invade through the underground tunnels.~
@67209 = ~Not much information of the outside world has reached Amkethran since Balthazar forbade the locals from leaving the village...and the smugglers from bringing in supplies.~
@67210 = ~Balthazar, the leader of the monastic order, has been holed up within his fortress for months.  He meets with no one, although there are tales of strange visitors appearing suddenly and entering the fortress late at night.~
@67211 = ~The army of the great Calimshite general Gromnir Il-Khan was heard to pass nearby...many fear that Il-Khan is planning an attack on Amkethran, and this is why Balthazar has been gathering troops.~
@67212 = ~A terrifying sight was reported by several villagers over a week ago...a flight of actual dragons was reported to pass overhead, heading northward.  A dark omen, it is said.~
@67213 = ~The mercenaries brought to Amkethran by the monks seem to be restless.  They want to fight, and complain that Balthazar is waiting too long.  Waiting for what, however, is unknown.~



and all the rest of these are rumors which I'm not sure are in the game or not.  I hardly ever talk to generic peasants in Saradush or Amkethran, so I don't know what they say  :-[  some are twisted rune mercenaries in the tavern, some seem to be random townspeople, some come from saradush, but I don't know what's ingame and what's not.  I'll post more soon!

I'm pretty sure they're all in game.
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2004, 01:59:50 PM »
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@66050 = ~It...it is the Master...the Master come again!  No...hold...~
@66051 = ~No, it is but a vessel for the Master's power!  An abomination!  Kill it!  Kill them all in the name of Bhaal!!~

These are definitely in the game.  And yes, it occurs in the forest of Mir.  It happens when you approach Bhaal's Temple, after the bout with the Master Wraith, when you're going to talk to Nyalee.  As soon as you are in sight of the Skelton Warriors, they say this.

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@66552 = ~Can not cast this spell during combat.~

I think there are a couple of spells that you can't cast during combat.  I believe Glyph of Warding is one of them, possibly also Spell Sequencer/Trigger are others.
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2004, 11:10:22 PM »
as I'm looking through NI to check my list, I went back to the Cernd quest for some reason.  I'm sure we've already disussed this a few times, but I figured I might as well post what I found in case we overlooked something.  Deril's dialogue has an option where he will give the baby to the party without a fight.  there's a variable


SetGlobalTimer("DerilLichTimer","GLOBAL",THREE_DAYS)
SetGlobal("DerilLich","GLOBAL",1)
ActionOverride("CeLich",ReallyForceSpell(Myself,DRYAD_TELEPORT))
ReallyForceSpell(Myself,DRYAD_TELEPORT)

which makes me think that he'll come back in three days and use his CEDELICH dialogue. now, maybe this is in the game, but since people rarely use cernd even to get his quest, let alone follow through, we never had deril come back for us.  for my part, i always kill deril and then let cernd return to the druid grove without trying to get him back.  so maybe this does happen, but people either don't let deril live or don't keep cernd in the party after this long enough to be hunted down by deril the newly made lich...

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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2004, 10:24:06 AM »
Oh, I think this is a definite finding! Good job!
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2004, 05:34:17 PM »
about the cernd thing, I tried a new game with letting deril go and waiting three days for him to return as a lich, but he hasn't so far.  I picked up cernd from the grove and waited around for three days but nothing.  I don't know if it needs more time, a specific place, or wasn't implemented.  but so far, i didn't get the encounter  :-\

also, posting this seperately from the first post because I'm not sure if it's missing or not.  I checked NI and found the dialogue for a few people, but I'm not sure where this is in the game.  I'm thinking Amkethran mercenaries?  but when?  and does this actually happen?


@67315 = ~Hold it right there... what's the password?~
@67316 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged.~
@67317 = ~I forget the password.~
@67318 = ~All hail Balthazar!~
@67319 = ~Back off or I'll slit your throat!~
@67320 = ~Sorry to have bothered you.  We can't be too careful with that Bhaalspawn <CHARNAME> wandering about.~
@67321 = ~Wrong answer - intruders!  To arms!~
@67322 = ~Intruders!  To arms!~
@67323 = ~You there - are you the new reinforcements Balthazar hired?~
@67324 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged!~
@67325 = ~Yes... yes, we're the new reinforcements.~
@67326 = ~No - I'm <CHARNAME> and I'm here to kill Balthazar!~
@67327 = ~I didn't ask for the password!  Bloody newbies blurting out our secret codes all over the place.  Just move along, and don't be so over eager.~
@67328 = ~Okay, you know the drill.  Let's have the password.~
@67329 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged.~
@67331 = ~All hail Balthazar!~
@67332 = ~Uh... I forget the password.~
@67333 = ~How about I just kill you instead?~
@67334 = ~Close enough.  Move along and keep your eyes open for that Bhaalspawn <PRO_RACE>.~
@67335 = ~Intruders!  Don't even try to take them alive, men!~
@67336 = ~Balthazar sure pays well... wouldn't you agree?~
@67337 = ~I think Balthazar has gone overboard.  Do you really think we need this many guards to stop one <PRO_RACE> Bhaalspawn?~
@67338 = ~Keep your eyes peeled - I hear there's a nice bonus for whoever kills that <CHARNAME>!~
@67339 = ~The Bhaalspawn is here!  Attack!~

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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2004, 01:03:33 PM »
some more findings, almost to the end of my section


@70242 = ~Cold Stone~

we already know about this one

@68585 = ~Dense Pudding~
@68586 = ~Dense Pudding~

some kind of ooze, but I don't remember if it's actually in the game.  it still has its files, so maybe I just don't remember where it is

@68304 = ~Einhiris~

this is the name? of the fallen solar, or somehow associated with it...

@68305 = ~You?~

I think this is in Anomen's dialogue, but when looking through NI I got some missing text files pop up, so i thought it might be worth looking at

@68514 = ~Spellhaunt~
@68515 = ~Spellhaunt~

another creature I'm not sure is in.  it's a mist, but I don't remember it being in the game.

@68697 = ~Vortex Web~

is this used by the spiders in sendai's lair?

@69057 = ~Bhaalspawn~
@69058 = ~Bhaal Spawn~

neither of these came up with any hits in NI

@69047 = ~Saradush Man~
@69051 = ~Saradush Woman~

nor did these

@70626 = ~Fire Lich~
@70627 = ~Fire Lich~
@70740 = ~Aranthis~
@70741 = ~Aranthis~

I'm not sure about these.  Is the fire lich guarding Kangaxx's bones?  I thought it was an elemental lich and a shadow lich.  maybe this was the third lich planned, since there was another set of golden bones originally for kangaxx.  I don't know who Aranthis is


also, there are several keys which I think might be used for the same thing...SARKEY01-04.ITM are all variations on the keys into Saradush's prison.  there might be more than one key, but I'm pretty sure we don't need four to get into the palace.  maybe one is for the sewers, though
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2004, 01:14:30 PM »
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@68305 = ~You?~

I think this is in Anomen's dialogue, but when looking through NI I got some missing text files pop up, so i thought it might be worth looking at

It is indeed Anomen's dialogue.  It's in BANOME25.DLG and is part of a banter he has with Minsc when Minsc asks Anomen about the Order.
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2004, 01:29:13 PM »
last of what I have...it's a bunch of little things that are probably in the game but I just don't know where  :-\  I've looked through NI for them but it doesn't show me exactly where in the game they appear, so I'm posting them all

@70308 = ~Summon Ice Salamander~
@70319 = ~Mimic Poison~
@70320 = ~Mimic Fire~
@70321 = ~Mimic Web~
@70396 = ~Hit Points Lowered~
@70425 = ~Guardian Spirit~
@70426 = ~Guardian Spirit~
@70486 = ~None may enter!~
@70499 = ~Scalding Steam~
@70621 = ~Armor Piercing Strike~
@70624 = ~Cinder Shower~
@70625 = ~Keening~

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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2004, 01:54:57 PM »
There are Spellhaunts in the first level of WK.

Einhiris: how do you know this is the fallen solar? I'm interested.

Fire Lich: that one is already in the Weird Creatures list, and yes, I think your explanation is plausible.

Aranthis: I'm having vague memories of a priest named "Arenthis"... (Edit: I'm pretty sure it's the Lathandrite in the Graveyard, involved in the Orphan Risa quest)

The ones in your second post are mostly NPC-only spells and effects. There's a mimic in Umar Hills, Burning Men use Keening and Cinder Shower, the Spectral Scimitar can perform an Armor Piercing Strike, etc.
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2004, 05:51:43 PM »
Well, in doing some searching, I was able to find Aranthis.  It seems he's a dog - and a war dog at that with spells too.  His creature file is TELDOG.CRE.  Have a look - it's kinda funny actually.
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2004, 08:01:32 PM »
Out of curiosity, I checked teldog.bcs, saw "tiefling" in it, and remembered where I'd seen the name -- Aranthis is with the tieflings in one of the wild magic rooms in the teleport maze of Watcher's Keep. He's summoned via a script, so the NI doesn't find any references to the CRE file. (Annoying.)

Hmm, happened to open the Saradush area file (AR5000) while I was looking for WK... Are there often "actor names" that creatures go by in the area files? It seems Saradush Men and Saradush Women, as well as two Bhaalspawns, are listed as "actors" in NI. However, the names that appear in the game are the ones in their CRE files: the men and women Peasants, the Bhaalspawns have specific names.

Oh, good, the two Il-Khan soldiers in the Saradush tavern are both listed as "Gromnir Il-Khan"... (Cut quest: Gromnir's simulacra.)

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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2004, 09:31:29 PM »
I mentionned that in my Weird Names thread.
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2004, 04:54:01 PM »
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@66552 = ~Can not cast this spell during combat.~

I'm not sure when this line pops up ingame
You get this when trying to go to your Pocket Plane in mid-combat.

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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2004, 09:20:22 AM »
Einhiris: how do you know this is the fallen solar? I'm interested.

when I looked on NI, the string led to the fallen solar CRE, which had the name Einhiris on one screen and fallen solar on another.  not sure whether this is just a situation of crossed strings or not...

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Aranthis: I'm having vague memories of a priest named "Arenthis"... (Edit: I'm pretty sure it's the Lathandrite in the Graveyard, involved in the Orphan Risa quest)

the war dog mentioned, isn't there one like that in the underdark ambush party?  I know the one in the watcher's keep maze, but there's some kind of war dog (along with a bunch of other deleted dialogues) in the party with the ogre, goblin, etc near ust natha

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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2004, 12:41:29 PM »
I'm not sure about these.  Is the fire lich guarding Kangaxx's bones?  I thought it was an elemental lich and a shadow lich.  maybe this was the third lich planned, since there was another set of golden bones originally for kangaxx. 
"Elemental" kinda covers fire, though.

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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2004, 01:42:04 PM »
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@68585 = ~Dense Pudding~
@68586 = ~Dense Pudding~
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@68515 = ~Spellhaunt~
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2004, 07:26:26 PM »
the war dog mentioned, isn't there one like that in the underdark ambush party?  I know the one in the watcher's keep maze, but there's some kind of war dog (along with a bunch of other deleted dialogues) in the party with the ogre, goblin, etc near ust natha
In that party, all the enemies have names except the Skeleton and the War Dog.

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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2004, 09:40:22 PM »
Well, in doing some searching, I was able to find Aranthis.  It seems he's a dog - and a war dog at that with spells too.  His creature file is TELDOG.CRE.  Have a look - it's kinda funny actually.

Heh... I checked, and it seems that there exist both a priest called Arenthis and a dog called Aranthis.
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2004, 01:50:39 PM »
ok, this is all of my list of strings.  I can compile it into one big list if you wish.  just let me know

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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2004, 02:39:31 PM »
That would be cool if you could, but no biggie if you can't.  Once UB13 is out the door, I'm going to try and consolidate all of your research findings, weeding out the strings we've verified are in the game.
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2004, 03:58:18 PM »
okay, here's what I got from this list, with everything I'm pretty sure isn't present to what could be present but no one has definitively found yet.  Feel free to correct.



@65779 = ~Ice Mist~
@65780 = ~Ice Mist~

@65910 = ~What of the inevitable pain you must give to the one you love?  The ranger you name 'Valygar'.~ [HGWRA108]
@65913 = ~Wh-what do you mean, inevitable pain?  <CHARNAME> has brought me only great joy!~
@65914 = ~You know nothing of what you speak.  You belong with my failed ward, however, you who are a murderer as much as <PRO_HESHE>.~
@65915 = ~What is so inevitable?!  <CHARNAME> has fought the greatest foes...there is nothing that could come between us!~
@65916 = ~It is my choice as much as his, Gorion... though I doubt that is truly who you are.~
@65917 = ~I have no objection to pain, fool.  I would stand by <CHARNAME>, regardless.~
@65918 = ~<CHARNAME> has brought me no pain, spirit.  Quite the contrary.~
@66029 = ~N-no!  No, I...I can't accept this!  I won't go through this again!  <CHARNAME>, please...make it stop!  I can't bear this!~
@66030 = ~Gorion, stop this!  He doesn't deserve this!~
@66031 = ~Enough!  I won't let this continue!~
@66032 = ~Don't believe it, Valygar!  It's a lie!~
@69940 = ~Rowyn~
@69941 = ~Rowyn~
@68007 = ~So the time of your victory has finally arrived... and now you must decide whether to leave this world  and your mortality behind forever.  Not a simple decision, <CHARNAME>.  Or is it?~
@68008 = ~What do you think I should do, Valygar?~
@68009 = ~I don't want to leave you behind, Valygar.  I love you.~
@68010 = ~I'm sorry.  I feel I have to see this through, I have to accept my birthright.~
@68011 = ~No, it isn't that simple at all.~
@68012 = ~I'm not very qualified to advise you, <CHARNAME>.  I've never been very comfortable with power.  The thought of attracting the attention of other gods, some who might be jealous, would not sit very well with me.~
@68013 = ~But I know that you'll make the best decision.  You always have in the past, and I trust that you always will in the future.  You laugh at me for such confidence, but I believe it.  You are unique beyond anyone I have ever encountered.~
@68014 = ~If you stay with me, I can only offer the solace of my company.  I would love to continue our journeys together... there is much that we could still do, many places we could go.~
@68015 = ~But if you leave, that doesn't mean I will love you any less, <CHARNAME>.  I will remember you, and hope that the power you gain will make you happy.~
@68016 = ~If you've taught me anything, it's that power isn't something to always fear.  I only hope that the life you choose isn't one you regret.  As for me... our time together has been worth everything.~
@68017 = ~I love you as well.  I wouldn't blame you for not wanting the power and the taint of your sire... but I would ask you to reconsider if you were to refuse it simply to remain with me, <CHARNAME>.~
@68018 = ~Truly?  I could not see myself deciding the same.  To attract the attention of the gods with such power would not sit well with me, although the idea of exploring the planes is attractive, I'll admit.~
@68074 = ~Then this is good-bye, <CHARNAME>.  I wish you well, my love.  With luck, we will meet again.~
@68075 = ~You... will stay a mortal, after all of this?  Then I cannot wait for our journey to begin, my love.  Our new future awaits.~

@69025 = ~It's true.  Part of my profession involves the use of stealth in the wilderness, and I've felt like nothing more than a giant, clumsy lummox compared to some of the graceful halflings in my old unit.~
@69028 = ~Ha ha!  That is good to hear.  But a clumsy lummox you are not, Valygar.  Your skills are impressive.  There's not a ranger in Trademeet who could perform half so well.~
@69029 = ~Now you flatter me.  I, ah... I hope you do know that I have developed an... attachment to <CHARNAME>, Mazzy.  I... wouldn't want to hurt you, after all...~
@69030 = ~Now you flatter me.  Careful, or we'll make the others gag.~
@69031 = ~Truly spoken, my squire.  Fair enough, then... let's get moving.~
@69032 = ~Ah, my heart still belongs to my poor Patrick, Valygar.  But I am grateful that you would think enough of me to spare my feelings.  Thank you.  I wish you and <CHARNAME> all the best.~
@69033 = ~That means a lot to me, Mazzy.  Let's get back to the others before they miss us, shall we?~

@66277 = ~Gained 10 Hit Points~
@66278 = ~Lowered Saving Throws by 1~
@66279 = ~Gained 5% Fire Resistance~
@66280 = ~Increased All Stats by 1~

@66551 = ~Yes, oh yes.  Call on me you may.  Use my recipes for you will I, make the shiny ones.  Have not done this for some time, no...no new master have I.~ [BOTSM17]
@67017 = ~Well, I don'ts see anything else I can makes.  So much for that, over and out, see ya...wouldn't wanna be ya and all that.  Cespenar going, now...I wants a nap, maybe.~ [BOTSM87]

@67085 = ~Brown Dragon~
@67088 = ~Brown Dragon~
@67113 = ~Brown Dragon Acid Breath~

@67123 = ~Yellow Dragon~
@67124 = ~Yellow Dragon~
@67145 = ~Yellow Dragon Scorching Sand~
and the yellow dragon eggs

@67591 = ~Turned Paladin~
@67807 = ~You find signs of <CREATURE> in the area.~
@67808 = ~Irenicus reaks!~
@67809 = ~Kobold Amplifier~
@67826 = ~A lamp.~

I looked up the kobold and found a bunch of unused kobold files, including three amplifiers, a recorder, scribe, slave, swift.  they're all in the same CRE area as the kobolds used ingame (kamikaze, commando, captain)
don't know about the lamp or Irenicus
 
SetGlobalTimer("DerilLichTimer","GLOBAL",THREE_DAYS)
SetGlobal("DerilLich","GLOBAL",1)
ActionOverride("CeLich",ReallyForceSpell(Myself,DRYAD_TELEPORT))
ReallyForceSpell(Myself,DRYAD_TELEPORT)

which makes me think that he'll come back in three days and use his CEDELICH dialogue. now, maybe this is in the game, but since people rarely use cernd even to get his quest, let alone follow through, we never had deril come back for us.  for my part, i always kill deril and then let cernd return to the druid grove without trying to get him back.  so maybe this does happen, but people either don't let deril live or don't keep cernd in the party after this long enough to be hunted down by deril the newly made lich...
about the cernd thing, I tried a new game with letting deril go and waiting three days for him to return as a lich, but he hasn't so far.  I picked up cernd from the grove and waited around for three days but nothing.  I don't know if it needs more time, a specific place, or wasn't implemented.  but so far, i didn't get the encounter 

@67315 = ~Hold it right there... what's the password?~
@67316 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged.~
@67317 = ~I forget the password.~
@67318 = ~All hail Balthazar!~
@67319 = ~Back off or I'll slit your throat!~
@67320 = ~Sorry to have bothered you.  We can't be too careful with that Bhaalspawn <CHARNAME> wandering about.~
@67321 = ~Wrong answer - intruders!  To arms!~
@67322 = ~Intruders!  To arms!~
@67323 = ~You there - are you the new reinforcements Balthazar hired?~
@67324 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged!~
@67325 = ~Yes... yes, we're the new reinforcements.~
@67326 = ~No - I'm <CHARNAME> and I'm here to kill Balthazar!~
@67327 = ~I didn't ask for the password!  Bloody newbies blurting out our secret codes all over the place.  Just move along, and don't be so over eager.~
@67328 = ~Okay, you know the drill.  Let's have the password.~
@67329 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged.~
@67331 = ~All hail Balthazar!~
@67332 = ~Uh... I forget the password.~
@67333 = ~How about I just kill you instead?~
@67334 = ~Close enough.  Move along and keep your eyes open for that Bhaalspawn <PRO_RACE>.~
@67335 = ~Intruders!  Don't even try to take them alive, men!~
@67336 = ~Balthazar sure pays well... wouldn't you agree?~
@67337 = ~I think Balthazar has gone overboard.  Do you really think we need this many guards to stop one <PRO_RACE> Bhaalspawn?~
@67338 = ~Keep your eyes peeled - I hear there's a nice bonus for whoever kills that <CHARNAME>!~
@67339 = ~The Bhaalspawn is here!  Attack!~
 
@70242 = ~Cold Stone~

@68585 = ~Dense Pudding~
@68586 = ~Dense Pudding~

@70626 = ~Fire Lich~
@70627 = ~Fire Lich~

also, there are several keys which I think might be used for the same thing...SARKEY01-04.ITM are all variations on the keys into Saradush's prison.  there might be more than one key, but I'm pretty sure we don't need four to get into the palace.  maybe one is for the sewers, though
 
@68304 = ~Einhiris~

Einhiris: how do you know this is the fallen solar? I'm interested.

when I looked on NI, the string led to the fallen solar CRE, which had the name Einhiris on one screen and fallen solar on another.  not sure whether this is just a situation of crossed strings or not...

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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2004, 06:01:54 PM »
@65779 = ~Ice Mist~
@65780 = ~Ice Mist~
Aren't these in the ice lab in Watcher's Keep?
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@65913 = ~Wh-what do you mean, inevitable pain?  <CHARNAME> has brought me only great joy!~
This is what Aerie says to the Master Wraith.
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@65914 = ~You know nothing of what you speak.  You belong with my failed ward, however, you who are a murderer as much as <PRO_HESHE>.~
This is what the Master Wraith always says to the PC's love interest.
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@65916 = ~It is my choice as much as his, Gorion... though I doubt that is truly who you are.~
Jaheira.  Master Wraith.
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@65917 = ~I have no objection to pain, fool.  I would stand by <CHARNAME>, regardless.~
Viconia.  One guess as to the circumstances.
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@69025 = ~It's true.  Part of my profession involves the use of stealth in the wilderness, and I've felt like nothing more than a giant, clumsy lummox compared to some of the graceful halflings in my old unit.~
@69028 = ~Ha ha!  That is good to hear.  But a clumsy lummox you are not, Valygar.  Your skills are impressive.  There's not a ranger in Trademeet who could perform half so well.~
@69029 = ~Now you flatter me.  I, ah... I hope you do know that I have developed an... attachment to <CHARNAME>, Mazzy.  I... wouldn't want to hurt you, after all...~
@69030 = ~Now you flatter me.  Careful, or we'll make the others gag.~
@69031 = ~Truly spoken, my squire.  Fair enough, then... let's get moving.~
@69032 = ~Ah, my heart still belongs to my poor Patrick, Valygar.  But I am grateful that you would think enough of me to spare my feelings.  Thank you.  I wish you and <CHARNAME> all the best.~
@69033 = ~That means a lot to me, Mazzy.  Let's get back to the others before they miss us, shall we?~
This is an exchange between Valygar and Mazzy, which is in the existing game.  Only the lines which talk about Valygar being in love with CHARNAME can never be seen, because they check for the never-to-be-set ValygarRomanceActive variable.
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@66551 = ~Yes, oh yes.  Call on me you may.  Use my recipes for you will I, make the shiny ones.  Have not done this for some time, no...no new master have I.~ [BOTSM17]
@67017 = ~Well, I don'ts see anything else I can makes.  So much for that, over and out, see ya...wouldn't wanna be ya and all that.  Cespenar going, now...I wants a nap, maybe.~ [BOTSM87]
You didn't recognize these?  I thought Cespenar was pretty memorable, myself.
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@67113 = ~Brown Dragon Acid Breath~
Draconis' breath weapon.
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@67591 = ~Turned Paladin~
This is a message you receive when an evil cleric successfully Turns a paladin.
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@67807 = ~You find signs of <CREATURE> in the area.~
Isn't that part of the Tracking HLA?
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which makes me think that he'll come back in three days and use his CEDELICH dialogue. now, maybe this is in the game, but since people rarely use cernd even to get his quest, let alone follow through, we never had deril come back for us.
No, he never comes back.
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Re: Bibbi's Research
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2004, 06:23:46 PM »
@65918 = ~<CHARNAME> has brought me no pain, spirit.  Quite the contrary.~
@66029 = ~N-no!  No, I...I can't accept this!  I won't go through this again!  <CHARNAME>, please...make it stop!  I can't bear this!~
@66030 = ~Gorion, stop this!  He doesn't deserve this!~
@66031 = ~Enough!  I won't let this continue!~
@66032 = ~Don't believe it, Valygar!  It's a lie!~
@69940 = ~Rowyn~
@69941 = ~Rowyn~
Valygar's planned Master Wraith encounter.

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@68007 = ~So the time of your victory has finally arrived... and now you must decide whether to leave this world  and your mortality behind forever.  Not a simple decision, <CHARNAME>.  Or is it?~
@68008 = ~What do you think I should do, Valygar?~
@68009 = ~I don't want to leave you behind, Valygar.  I love you.~
@68010 = ~I'm sorry.  I feel I have to see this through, I have to accept my birthright.~
@68011 = ~No, it isn't that simple at all.~
@68012 = ~I'm not very qualified to advise you, <CHARNAME>.  I've never been very comfortable with power.  The thought of attracting the attention of other gods, some who might be jealous, would not sit very well with me.~
@68013 = ~But I know that you'll make the best decision.  You always have in the past, and I trust that you always will in the future.  You laugh at me for such confidence, but I believe it.  You are unique beyond anyone I have ever encountered.~
@68014 = ~If you stay with me, I can only offer the solace of my company.  I would love to continue our journeys together... there is much that we could still do, many places we could go.~
@68015 = ~But if you leave, that doesn't mean I will love you any less, <CHARNAME>.  I will remember you, and hope that the power you gain will make you happy.~
@68016 = ~If you've taught me anything, it's that power isn't something to always fear.  I only hope that the life you choose isn't one you regret.  As for me... our time together has been worth everything.~
@68017 = ~I love you as well.  I wouldn't blame you for not wanting the power and the taint of your sire... but I would ask you to reconsider if you were to refuse it simply to remain with me, <CHARNAME>.~
@68018 = ~Truly?  I could not see myself deciding the same.  To attract the attention of the gods with such power would not sit well with me, although the idea of exploring the planes is attractive, I'll admit.~
@68074 = ~Then this is good-bye, <CHARNAME>.  I wish you well, my love.  With luck, we will meet again.~
@68075 = ~You... will stay a mortal, after all of this?  Then I cannot wait for our journey to begin, my love.  Our new future awaits.~

Valygar's dialog at the end if he's romanced.

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@66277 = ~Gained 10 Hit Points~
@66278 = ~Lowered Saving Throws by 1~
@66279 = ~Gained 5% Fire Resistance~
@66280 = ~Increased All Stats by 1~

The first 3 are Deck of Many Things results.

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@67315 = ~Hold it right there... what's the password?~
@67316 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged.~
@67317 = ~I forget the password.~
@67318 = ~All hail Balthazar!~
@67319 = ~Back off or I'll slit your throat!~
@67320 = ~Sorry to have bothered you.  We can't be too careful with that Bhaalspawn <CHARNAME> wandering about.~
@67321 = ~Wrong answer - intruders!  To arms!~
@67322 = ~Intruders!  To arms!~
@67323 = ~You there - are you the new reinforcements Balthazar hired?~
@67324 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged!~
@67325 = ~Yes... yes, we're the new reinforcements.~
@67326 = ~No - I'm <CHARNAME> and I'm here to kill Balthazar!~
@67327 = ~I didn't ask for the password!  Bloody newbies blurting out our secret codes all over the place.  Just move along, and don't be so over eager.~
@67328 = ~Okay, you know the drill.  Let's have the password.~
@67329 = ~Bhaal's taint must be purged.~
@67331 = ~All hail Balthazar!~
@67332 = ~Uh... I forget the password.~
@67333 = ~How about I just kill you instead?~
@67334 = ~Close enough.  Move along and keep your eyes open for that Bhaalspawn <PRO_RACE>.~
@67335 = ~Intruders!  Don't even try to take them alive, men!~
@67336 = ~Balthazar sure pays well... wouldn't you agree?~
@67337 = ~I think Balthazar has gone overboard.  Do you really think we need this many guards to stop one <PRO_RACE> Bhaalspawn?~
@67338 = ~Keep your eyes peeled - I hear there's a nice bonus for whoever kills that <CHARNAME>!~
@67339 = ~The Bhaalspawn is here!  Attack!~

There's also a journal entry about infiltrating the monastery; it's Saemon who provides you with the costume.
 
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@70242 = ~Cold Stone~

From the Cold Mistress quest.

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