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Offline nurgles_herald

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Re: Incest Please
« Reply #100 on: July 05, 2004, 10:13:55 PM »
Not related= not incest.  That fact, however, I think will really piss off the makers of the Imoen mod, who were probably hoping for an incest mod.  After all, it is just part of the fantasy.
What kind of meds are you on?  Or, what meds have you neglected to take today?  Have you ever spoken to Mirrabbo?  He's not quite the immature fanboy you're making him out to be.  Your comment is completely unfair and out of line. >:(

Eh, that's what happens when you don't personally know the creators of a mod.  I'd like to point out that I did use the words "probably" and "I think".  It could've been worse.  I could've said "Miraboo wanted this to be an incest mod without a doubt".  But, because Miraboo's name failed to come to mind at the moment, I had to use "the makers" as a substitute.  Bah, whatever.  Btw, I take singular as my only prescribed medicine, which is a medicine to help with asthma.  Sorry, nobody's diagnosed me with crazy yet  :P.
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Re: Incest Please
« Reply #101 on: July 06, 2004, 06:24:28 PM »
(So because you don't know them, it's okay to 'attack' them?  Personal attacks are unacceptable.  Check your PM's)
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Re: Incest Please
« Reply #102 on: July 07, 2004, 10:14:48 AM »
I resent the implication that a person who hopes to make a proposedely incest mod is  an "immature fanboy". Incest is an interesting and dark story-line that has been used in modern fantasy and not so fantasy literature with great impact and success. And if Mirrabbo ran away from it or danced around it t make it non-incest whatever complicated genetico-theological argument it takes  (I have not played the mod and have no intention to do so, because I have no liking for Imoen) I say it's his loss. 


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Re: Incest Please
« Reply #103 on: July 07, 2004, 06:44:40 PM »
*I* used the term immature fanboy uh.. <sigh>  I just can't muster the will to say anything more than: take my word for it that he tries to tackle it head on.  I think if he didn't, it wouldn't ..be right.  Or I'll send you the dialogues.

Indeed, the plot would be incomplete if he didn't address it.
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Re: Incest Please
« Reply #104 on: July 07, 2004, 10:00:23 PM »
And if Mirrabbo ran away from it or danced around it t make it non-incest whatever complicated genetico-theological argument it takes  (I have not played the mod and have no intention to do so, because I have no liking for Imoen) I say it's his loss. 

He did addres the issue, and in places he did it well. IMO, the mod's most serious flaw is in its inconsistent tone. The "good" path is generally serious, mature, and thoughful, with a few well placed tension breaks. Some of the more tongue in cheek humor is hilarious. The "evil" path is not as well done, with CHARNAME behaning in a way that would have precluded his/her survival to the point at which those actions could be taken. Imoen's behavoir can become even more inexplicable with the horror she has gone through made so much more explicit. Add in random joke responses and there is plenty not to like in the mod.

Mixed bag or no, on the "good" path the mod is worth playing, and the idea was obviouly there in the game plot waiting to be explored.

 

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Re: Incest Please
« Reply #105 on: July 07, 2004, 10:29:28 PM »
(I don't think an evil path will ever be "well done" or, done well in a commercial game, but... er.. that is another topic  :))
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Re: Incest Please
« Reply #106 on: October 29, 2004, 02:37:46 AM »
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So there is no genetic bond,
...in the opinion of Viconia.  Imoen disagrees.  Viconia is hardly an authority.

Hmm. I'd think being a preistess of Shar would qualify her as knowing more about the gods than you. Not to mention was also a preistess of Lloth.  So I'd think she's more of an authority than anyone else, and that dialogue is product of Bioware, not a mod.

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Re: Incest Please
« Reply #107 on: October 29, 2004, 03:47:58 AM »
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So there is no genetic bond,
...in the opinion of Viconia.  Imoen disagrees.  Viconia is hardly an authority.

Hmm. I'd think being a preistess of Shar would qualify her as knowing more about the gods than you. Not to mention was also a preistess of Lloth.  So I'd think she's more of an authority than anyone else,
Three weak points in that argument:
1) It asserts that a Realms character can know more about the Realms gods than someone who can read everything about the Realms gods.
2) It presumes that being a cleric of two evil gods, at least one of whom carefully cultivates ignorance in her worshipers, and neither of whom would ever consider reproducing with a mortal, makes someone an expert on genetics.
3) It presumes that a Neutral Evil character from a culture that thrives on sexual perversions, from stopping a male's heart at the moment of climax to having sex with demons, is someone who should be listened to when she says, "Oh, that type of sexual relationship isn't immoral."
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and that dialogue is product of Bioware, not a mod.
Exactly so, and in it, Imoen makes her view of the ethical viability of a sexual relationship with another child of her father abundantly clear.
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