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Post by: Reverendratbastard on March 15, 2012, 12:39:44 PM
anyone have any more than speculation on this?  (this question will become invalid in 80 minutes)

http://baldursgate.com/
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Post by: Reverendratbastard on March 15, 2012, 12:41:39 PM
okay, HD rerelease is all i've heard.
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Post by: Echon on March 15, 2012, 01:39:20 PM
'Remake' seems to be a popular rumour.
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Post by: Echon on March 15, 2012, 02:35:46 PM
An 'Enhanced Edition', whatever that means.

http://www.vg247.com/2012/03/15/atari-reveals-baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition-for-summer-2012/
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Post by: plainab on March 15, 2012, 03:51:30 PM
hope it doesn't turn out to be the normal game with Atari's favored mods pre-installed....   LOL
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Post by: Echon on March 15, 2012, 04:36:35 PM
Check out Trent Oster's twitter for lots of questions and answers: https://twitter.com/#!/TrentOster (https://twitter.com/#!/TrentOster)

Of particular interest:

-they will release BG:EE (BG+TotSC) and BG2:EE (BG2+ToB)
-both games will use the latest ToB Infinity Engine
-they will add new original content in addition to updating the games
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Post by: plainab on March 15, 2012, 06:00:04 PM
-both games will use the latest ToB Infinity Engine
bet that will make for an easier BGT if both use the same engine.

if they were smart they'd go ahead and put 'em both together in one full game with an 'official' transition between the two
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Post by: Kulyok on March 16, 2012, 12:34:12 AM
I wonder if they are going to... mmm... "borrow" some EasyTutu/BGT mechanisms. And possibly Widescreen ones, too.
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Post by: Echon on March 16, 2012, 02:07:27 AM
I wonder if they are going to... mmm... "borrow" some EasyTutu/BGT mechanisms. And possibly Widescreen ones, too.

They have the source code. I am sure they can add widescreen support on their own.
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Post by: Echon on March 16, 2012, 02:18:09 AM
bet that will make for an easier BGT if both use the same engine.

There will be no need for Tutu/BGT on the enhanced editions if they both use the same engine.

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if they were smart they'd go ahead and put 'em both together in one full game with an 'official' transition between the two

Trent says: "We're looking for new ways to attach the games".
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Post by: Echon on March 16, 2012, 07:03:24 AM
GameBanshee have made a summary of what has been said so far: http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/107296-baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition-announced.html
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Post by: Kulyok on March 16, 2012, 07:25:27 AM
Alas, they use Twitter links for the most juicy parts. :( And for some reason all Twitter is unreadable for non-registered users. Damn.
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Post by: Echon on March 16, 2012, 08:16:09 AM
I do not have a Twitter account and I had no problems reading what GameBanshee wrote or Trent's own account.
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Post by: Kulyok on March 16, 2012, 10:10:00 AM
Really? You open https://twitter.com/#!/TrentOster/status/180486396287520768 and you see something, and I see "This page doesn't exist"? Weird.
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Post by: Echon on March 16, 2012, 10:24:40 AM
Yes. No problems here.
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Post by: plainab on March 16, 2012, 12:08:59 PM
Really? You open https://twitter.com/#!/TrentOster/status/180486396287520768 and you see something, and I see "This page doesn't exist"? Weird.
the link text you have doesn't work, but if you use the link in the 6th post down of this thread it should work.  Unless you are being denied access for some other reason...
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Post by: Ishad Nha on March 17, 2012, 08:13:40 PM
People were hoping for a BG3 at Bioware Social forum. Enhanced Edition will be a new interface and new material as I understand. Much like one big mod. The mod to end all mods.
I did not have the problems experienced by Kulyok, she may have browser or browser setting problems.
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Post by: jester on March 18, 2012, 03:39:10 AM
I am quite excited about this. If for no other reason than to revisit the Swordcoast.

Also the Wasteland 2 kickstarter projekt revived my hope in good RPGs.
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Post by: jcompton on March 22, 2012, 10:26:37 PM
They're adding a new NPC to BGEE.

I have been giggling to myself for the past 20 minutes while making both real and joke lists of "writers I hope they enlisted."
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Post by: Reverendratbastard on March 23, 2012, 12:47:40 AM

I have been giggling to myself for the past 20 minutes while making both real and joke lists of "writers I hope they enlisted."

  so they didn't contact you a la the fancy chests-o-scents of game of thrones?  (...YET)  lame...
  okay, you have to place these lists in a special capsule that can only be viewed after said writers are revealed but cannot be altered before then... :P
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Post by: jcompton on March 23, 2012, 07:27:12 AM
chests-o-scents of game of thrones?  (...YET)  lame...

I've read some of the Game of Thrones novels but I'm not getting the "chest-o-scents" reference.

The Beamdog people and I are aware of each other. I don't know if it will turn into anything.

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okay, you have to place these lists in a special capsule that can only be viewed after said writers are revealed but cannot be altered before then... :P

Well, I don't think it will surprise anybody terribly to learn that the Ding0 is pretty high on both lists.
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Post by: Azazello on March 23, 2012, 10:50:31 AM
chests-o-scents of game of thrones?  (...YET)  lame...
The Beamdog people and I are aware of each other. I don't know if it will turn into anything.

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okay, you have to place these lists in a special capsule that can only be viewed after said writers are revealed but cannot be altered before then... :P
Well, I don't think it will surprise anybody terribly to learn that the Ding0 is pretty high on both lists.

Why is my spidey-sense tingling - are you teasing us with some news you can't yet officially announce?
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Post by: jcompton on March 23, 2012, 12:03:52 PM
'Twould be nice if it were so, but no. (Even though I would doubtless be contractually obligated to lie/withhold information if there was something, I'm pretty sure there's no reason I can't honestly say "no, really, I got nothing." I think after a decade of this stuff people can tell when I'm saying things with a wink-and-a-nod and when I'm saying, straight up, I've not got an oar in this right now.)
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Post by: Reverendratbastard on March 23, 2012, 02:39:48 PM
 
  well, fingers are crossed, anyhow.   :pirate


  re: the chest-o'scents -
 
  http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/2011/2/25/scents-of-westeros-land-on-real-world-doorsteps.html
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Post by: MrFrost on June 18, 2012, 01:37:32 PM
'Twould be nice if it were so, but no. (Even though I would doubtless be contractually obligated to lie/withhold information if there was something, I'm pretty sure there's no reason I can't honestly say "no, really, I got nothing." I think after a decade of this stuff people can tell when I'm saying things with a wink-and-a-nod and when I'm saying, straight up, I've not got an oar in this right now.)

They already spoke about wanting to make a third game if this one goes well. So buy em up when its released.
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Post by: Kulyok on June 19, 2012, 05:40:39 AM
Oh, BG3 is not going to happen. If they try, they're going to be eaten alive with D&D licenses, TSR/Wizards/legacy, Forgotten Realms reloads, Spellplague and all that crap. Bioware didn't just refuse to make more Forgotten Realms games for nothing - they decided to create their own franchise so they wouldn't have to deal with fees and their writers wouldn't have to call the license holders every other hour.

Buried in red tape is my prediction. And hope. The child of Bhaal reached level 31 and can happily rest - among gods or among mortals. A hundred years passed, Minsc, Boo and Jaheira are dead, as are Nalia, Valygar, Anomen and many others. Thay rules(sadly, without Edwin), many mages lost their minds during Spellplague, and only Artemis Entreri is on the prowl somewhere.

Also, lyrics aside, do they have money for something DA/D3-worthy, latest graphics and all that stuff, not to mention music fees, voice actors, and writers like  Patrick Weekes and David Gaider? No way.
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Post by: MrFrost on June 21, 2012, 06:55:18 AM
I'd like to see it happen. Atari owns a number of those licenses already and they dont have to start during the current year (4th/5th edition). Their best bet would continue where they left off or shortly after. Wouldnt have to be starring the same character either. As we know there are many other siblings. An they dont quite make rpg's like the used too, Dragon Age was a let down. In no way could it stand toe to toe with Baldurs Gate. Besides I see many of the original dev team working on the enhanced edition and a well known writer and composer. They definitely are going all out so they are getting my support.

This here link is an interview with gamespy and their long term goals of a third game in the series. 
http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition/1220929p1.html
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Post by: Kulyok on June 22, 2012, 06:30:22 AM
The point of ToB was to show there were no other siblings - just Imoen(optionally, if you didn't kill her) and Sarevok(optionally, if you brought him back) - and both gave up Bhaal's essence. And the canon is not clear on where the essence went, so.

Anyway, I have a smallest suspicion that whenever the EE comes out, fans who try the new content would be hugely disappointed. And the general opinion will be "no, these people better not develop BG3". Ironically, this will happen even if the new content is good - it's just the game itself is so good and so well-grounded in our minds that nothing can possibly seem an integral part of it. But we'll wait and see, I guess.
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Post by: Ishad Nha on June 22, 2012, 09:43:18 PM
The novelisation of ToB had all the essence being absorbed by the protagonist, Abdel Adrian, then dispersed/destroyed when he refuses godhood.
BG3 would need a protagonist, which could be a bit tough. Have an Avatar of the now-divine protagonist?
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Post by: Reverendratbastard on June 25, 2012, 02:53:33 PM
making both real and joke lists of "writers I hope they enlisted."

 what about writers from whom one hopes they'll stay way the hell away?  when was the last primo bgmodcomm schism...
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Post by: Miloch on June 30, 2012, 09:03:26 AM
Baldur's Gate III (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldur's_Gate_III:_The_Black_Hound) would not involve the same protagonist, nor would it be anywhere near the city of Baldur's Gate (set in the Dalelands instead). So clearly, the only reason it would be called BG3 is to capitalise on the success of the first two games.
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Post by: Reverendratbastard on June 30, 2012, 02:26:29 PM
aye, perhaps one day there will be a decent extended Shadowdale-centered romp.  top of personal wishlist/pipe-dream-project is to adapt Under Illefarn.
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Post by: Miloch on June 30, 2012, 03:30:50 PM
top of personal wishlist/pipe-dream-project is to adapt Under Illefarn.
Not really familiar with that one but it sounds a bit like some of what Classic Adventures (http://www.shsforums.net/forum/259-classic-adventures/) has done... have you tried that? There's also an NWN mod that centres on Daggerford but I'm even less familiar with that (and anyway the engine isn't as good as IE).
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Post by: Reverendratbastard on June 30, 2012, 04:29:44 PM
i have peeked at CA but not yet taken the time to dig.  NWN bored me rapidly (and i concur about the engine) but i do approve of the builder-friendly aspect.
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Post by: MrFrost on August 15, 2012, 04:50:45 PM
The point of ToB was to show there were no other siblings - just Imoen(optionally, if you didn't kill her) and Sarevok(optionally, if you brought him back) - and both gave up Bhaal's essence. And the canon is not clear on where the essence went, so.

Anyway, I have a smallest suspicion that whenever the EE comes out, fans who try the new content would be hugely disappointed. And the general opinion will be "no, these people better not develop BG3". Ironically, this will happen even if the new content is good - it's just the game itself is so good and so well-grounded in our minds that nothing can possibly seem an integral part of it. But we'll wait and see, I guess.

Gah I hope this is not the case. A true fan would find that their efforts to renew an old series is a noble effort indeed an the lengths they are going through to bring many of the original writers and developers back earns some points with me regardless. I checked out what they have added and I have to say I am impressed. Three new characters and a full length adventure is much more then I expected. I am really looking forward to this release, I got a feeling we as fans wont be let down.