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Last update: July 31, 2007
Released.
Website (http://www.gibberlings3.net/romanticencounters/)
Forum (http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showforum=131)
Readme (http://www.gibberlings3.net/readmes/Readme-RE.txt)
Romantic possibilities are endless. It could be a bit of flirting. Or several bits. Some innuendo. A lovers' quarrel. A one-night stand. Or even several nights together - with a 'morning after' and without. Or something else?
We are attempting to give the protagonist of the game Baldur's Gate II these possibilities. Some of the encounters remain PG-13, some have adult writing. Some of the encounters are with non-joinable original characters(Hendak, Aran Linvail, Saemon Havarian), some of them - with completely new ones.
So, we are:
Kulyok - coding, coordinating. Aran, Bodhi, Cambion, Cyric, Desharik, Edwin, Eldoth, Elhan, Firkraag, Garren, Haer'Dalis, Mekrath, Ryan, Saemon, Sendai, Teos, Yoshimo; Lais, Ilona, Rebecca the Gypsy and a dryad - complete
berelinde Weathermistress Ada, Aimi the Barmaid, Laran the Paladin, Mira, Talak the pleasure slave - complete
cmorgan Anishai, Chanelle the Maid, Noober, Sheri the Bardess, Renal - complete
jastey Bjornin, Hendak, Solaufein - complete
magrat Coran, Guildmistress Busya - complete
Evaine Dian Gaelan Bayle, Ribald - complete
Ajnos Lord Logan - complete
Catseye Jarlaxle - complete
A list of fully complete, working submissions: Ada, Aimi, Anishai, Aran, Bjornin, Bodhi, Busya, Cambion, Chanelle, Coran, Cyric, Desharik, Dryad, Edwin, Eldoth, Elhan, Firkraag, Gaelan, Garren, Haer'Dalis, Hendak, Ilona, Jarlaxle, Lais, Laran, Logan, Mekrath, Mira, Noober, Rebecca, Renal, Ribald, Ryan, Saemon, Sendai, Sheri, Solaufein, Talak, Teos, Yoshimo.
Version 1 is complete, but you can still submit materials for Romantic Encounters - they will be included into the next versions. If you have something to contribute, please write it (and preferably code it, if you can - if you cannot, though, I do not think it is a big problem), and send it to me.
Technical details: we are using RE prefix for the mod, but you are free to code your submission with your personal prefix, if you like. Two special variables(flirting with your NPC, and an actual "night together" with your NPC), however, have to follow this pattern for crossmod purposes:
Global("RE_SaemonFlirt","GLOBAL",1), if PC and Saemon have flirted;
Global("RE_SaemonSex","GLOBAL",1), if PC and Saemon have slept together.
All the relevant variables are listed in the Readme file.
(The original post follows):
Between the release of the third "Pirates" and reading An Affair (http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php/topic,341.0.html), I got this idea sitting comfortably in my mind and dangling her legs.
I don't want to write it, because I want to play it. :) But it's roughly an hour of writing, an hour of coding and an hour of testing.
Hmm... sounds like an Iron Modder idea...
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How wicked! I want to play it, too. Badly! :D
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Presumably, without the Desharik encounter at the end of it?
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It depends on whenever you'd want to insert the Night, I suppose. But why, Desharik encounter could stay - why shouldn't it?
(Also, I think that for various fans a one-night stand with Aran Linvail/Galan Bayle/Bodhi/Goo - - okay, I believe I got the point across - anyway, I think this more of sleeping-around-or-a-short-romantic-adventure thing will be popular. Perhaps very. I know I'd play it).
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Do I make myself totally hilarious / ridiculous (what's the right word - I don't think I want to know :P) if I confess that my first finished mod enabled the PC to have an affair with Hendak (after freeing him, obviously)? ;D
Nothing with long description texts, Just a few flirts on different occations, his proclamation of interest and, well, free and ..hm cosy nights at the inn afterwards. ::)
Gods, I can't believe I am posting this.
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Do I make myself totally hilarious / ridiculous (what's the right word - I don't think I want to know :P) if I confess that my first finished mod enabled the PC to have an affair with Hendak (after freeing him, obviously)? ;D
Nothing with long description texts, Just a few flirts on different occations, his proclamation of interest and, well, free and ..hm cosy nights at the inn afterwards. ::)
Gods, I can't believe I am posting this.
We can't forgive you unless you upload and give an URL.
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Oh, wow! Is it available? Can I download it?
And, yes, while the concept does make me smile, it is also very sweet. :)
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This concept really has my mind boggling with the possibilities! :D
Specifically, I'm trying to imagine the various reactions that they might provoke in romanced NPCs...
Shocked Anomen: But... My Lady!!! ( :-* )
Sweet depressed Xan: I knew it... It's useless... ( :-* )
And so on and so forth...
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... if they ever find out, that is. :)
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In a party that size?
They'll find out.
Especially since most of the places the PC visits are small enough to have super gossip-mills.
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i love this whole idea !!!
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Now that I think of it, all romantic encounters in BG1/BG2 are very popular: Delainy/Durlyle, Salvanas, Phaere... :)
And as for crossmod content, the mod could just provide a variable in the readme, like "Mod_PCFlirtedWithSaemon", and let the authors of the mods decide whether they'd like to trigger a banter on it, or not.
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So, yeah. The mod - since I assume it is inevitable now.
There are two ways to accomplish this, I suppose: seven or eight mini-mods, or a larger mod with several components("An evening with Aran" by melora, "A wild night with Saemon" by Evaine Dian, "Hendak's Heart" by jastey, "Something wonderful and romantic" by berelinde, "Something Eeevil" by Kulyok, and so on). I'd like to sugest way #2.
If you have something to contribute, please write it (and preferably code it, if you can - if you cannot, though, I do not think it is a big problem), and send it to me. And... we may even release it! Maybe. Probably. :)
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well, I have the male protagonist version picked out - always wanted an opportunity to seduce a bardess... one bit character just got her lovescene.
The female one is leaving me adrift, though - your choice, Kulyok - you pick the female protagonists affair partner, and I will try my hand at a toe-curling lusty affair.
(I have a secret weapon - one of my non-IE friends writes Harlequin Romances - so I can ask her to check my choices)
BTW, Teen Content, Adult Content with Class, Ault Content without Class, or Circle/Square/Triangle Mod material?
I am assuming Adults Only, but with class...
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Yes, while the steamy bits are all good, super-detailed sex sequences might be unnecessary. :)
By the way, forgive my ignorance, but what are Harlequin Romances?
The female one is leaving me adrift, though - your choice, Kulyok - you pick the female protagonists affair partner, and I will try my hand at a toe-curling lusty affair.
Give me Renal. He has heard about my female protagonist, after all... :)
By the way, while the Weimerfain is out there biding his time, I think an affair with Bio Soulafein in Ust Natha isn't completely out of the picture, either.
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Now that I think of it, Circle and Natlia are unavailable for download. These should be restored to some stable DL place.
Geometry is unavailable at SHS, but it's still available at {IEGMC}/thebigg/gibbeth.
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If it's going to be done, I prefer the second approach, kind of reminds me of a modding confederacy, but that's cool.
And yeah, it could be an Iron Modder competition, but I'd allow a longer timeframe, say a week?
As for content, I'd vote for "Adult, but with class." Possibly "Strongly adult, but with class."
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I like the idea, but before contributing I want to be reassured that this is not going to be a joke mod a la circle. This would collide with my original intention.
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By the way, while the Weimerfain is out there biding his time, I think an affair with Bio Soulafein in Ust Natha isn't completely out of the picture, either.
That idea is ..hmm, yes, please. But I don't feel capable of writing it. I want to play it! :)
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I don't want this to be a joke mod, either, but I don't think it will be. I think it could be something very positive, and I'm interested in participating.
So, lemme see, who do we have for possible targets:
Jastey's already done Hendrak. Man, I really have to phrase that better. Jastey already wrote an encounter with that NPC.
Maybe put a list of possibilities in the top post, or put out a call for volunteers with a signup sheet? This could be a lot of fun, but we don't want everybody to write encounters for the same NPC.
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I don't want this to be a joke mod, either, but I don't think it will be.
Yes, I think this much is clear.
Maybe put a list of possibilities in the top post, or put out a call for volunteers with a signup sheet? This could be a lot of fun, but we don't want everybody to write encounters for the same NPC.
Quite - I shall edit the top post shortly to give more information, this is a good idea.
As signups go, I think we all know that sometimes, time constraints and other things get in the way, and sometimes things do not get done, so, while I would say picking 'your' NPC to work with is a great idea, I think two Saemons or two Arans could work as well, should both authors really wish it - as appropriately tagged separate components, of course.
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Is this going to be a "no edit my work or I kill you" parade?
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This is what I've been thinking about for the last few hours, too.
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Okay, let me put it like this:
- I will edit the obvious stuff, like punctuation and grammar, and I will ask a second person - preferably a native English speaker - to give it a thorough look, too - again, typos and punctuation.
- I am a reluctant editor, simply because there are people who write better than me out there.
- Yes, something that I think is outright horrible will not go in.
I will not say "If you submit, I will edit the hell out of your stuff" - because I will look at someone's work(say, jastey or berelinde, because they posted here, and they want to participate), and the most I will do, most probably, is point out an awkward phrase or a missing comma, and make a suggestion or two.
So, I think it is going to be more like UB, with separate components by different authors; less like Quest Pack, with only one(right?) editor.
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The guys need... erm... love, too!
Maybe not Bodhi :P
But there has *got* to be a nice, unattached lady somewhere.
Squire Eliot? (Paladin stronghold duties) Hey, she might be a paladin, but good does not equal prude
Weathermistress (forgot her name, but the Talassan high priestess)
The female Dawngreeter outside the Temple of Lathander might get a name and personality, someday
maybe a little off-the-books rendezvous with Madame Nim?
females specifically created for the mod
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Absolutely, yes. I was meaning to add some females as an example, but I just couldn't come up with a name.
Sime, Weathermistress Ada, Garren's daughter, Guildmistress Busya... yes, quite a list. Basically, all those NPCs somebondy wanted to be joinable at some point.
A few extra scenery dialogues with Athkatlan prostitutes, directed at PC, are great, too.
I tend to think that Ellesime and Sendai are not impossible, either, though perhaps Phaere's mother would make more sense.
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Is this going to be a "no edit my work or I kill you" parade?
If you don't edit my work I'll kill you. Better? 8)
I will happily provide what I have got, but I wrote it in Feb 2004... I can imagine there are people out there who would like to have something more adult, so to say. I wouldn't mind someone coming up with a Hendak encounter that's more erotic than what I did; I am ready to consider changes to my work as well (especially before everyone goes like ..yawn).
I will send it to you as soon as it's translated, Kulyok, and will be thankful for any corrections and feedback.
Pity I don't have time to turn this into a full-fledged mod..
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Glad to hear it. :)
I actually like less erotic stuff - simply because with it, my imagination runs wild about whatever happens when the screen goes dark; with a fully depicted erotic scene, I feel as if I am railroading.
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I know what I'll be submitting. It won't be Saemon Havarian...
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(I can't believe I'm doing this, but if Jastey can muster up the courage, then by Sune I can, too :) )
Gotta look up the .cre reference, but one of the Lady Bardesses in Amn just got upgraded to Interactive (With Perks). I will not use the one Keto uses, so I will have to go searching; isn't there one available untouched by a mod somewhere?
Mirror content (inverse or retrograde variations on a theme) will go to Renal (because I think I'd better explore the theme from the side I know before I go tangling with the female psyche and attempting . Kulyok, you are not allowed to touch/preview the Renal version (I will steal berelide or Jastey or someone to recheck things ) so as to give you one runthrough without spoilage, after that, he is yours to toy with/rebuild/expand on as you please - I cede you full rights.
I caution that I have friends with alternate lifestyles, and I know that I cannot write from their perspective, so if I do this it may very well fall into the trap of " cliche' " - one Male PC fling with a female character, one Female PC fling with Renal. I will not include Gender, Race, or Alignment reastrictions (though Alignment or Class may determine some responses and pathways). Text Adventure Alone (gotta think of some ways of doing cutscenes without doing cutscenes - that should be fun!).
@Kulyok - Harlequin Romances are "Bodice-Rippers" - romantic stories written (usually by females like my friend, but sometimes male, generally for a female audience.) They have not particulary strong plots, and the action is (at most) the level of the scenes in BG1 NPC Project romances, and they definitely are not aimed directly at depiction of specific acts. Their attraction (my friend says - I actually have only read her work once, and it was for a teen version, so it was misty-eyed teens kissing and getting all hot and bothered, and then he had to leave for the summer, so the Romance was Over) seems to be imagination sparking. "Her soft lips met his, and the world stood trembling on the brink of something wonderful, something new" type stuff. Torn jeans, heaving chests, breathless anticipation, y'know, fantasy. One theme she worked with was the Pirate and the Maiden, set in all sorts of timeperiods.
And I may not be a real writer, but if I am going to let my hair down and walk on the wild side, I am not interested in writing a joke mod at all. If people laugh, my hope is that it is because my writing is not up to snuff, or is hopelessly cliche', not because I am trying to be funny.
I give full editorial control over the Bardess in question (anyone got an idea?) to you from the outset, because I will always have my internal version. That one will never leave the encrypted portion of my harddrive ;)
Synopsis
/* Five Evenings in the Key of Lust */
/* A Dialogue-Only Romantic Interlude Mini Mod. Warning, Adult Content. */
/* Male Fling, Bardess - Female Fling, Renal */
/* author: cmorgan - but don't blame this on any forum - Kulyok made me do it. */
/* Introduction: Prelude and Cappricio */
Interesting. But I have seen this before. Still, interesting.
/* Exposition: Fair Phyllis (madrigal) */
ahh, you say no, but your eyes say... perhaps.
/* Development: Ravel: Bolero */
daggers dance, and wits engage, will you, or won't you?
/* Climax: Beethoven: Symphony IX */
swordplay of a different sort, and spellweaving that leaves no rest
/* Recapitulation: Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun */
who let the party in?
/* Coda: Stravinski: Firebird */
destiny is not kind, and the Firebird has a different path...
Goals: PC interaction with an adult twist; low maintainance code (all through dialogue and text imagery); timeline for alpha - one week.
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Okay, this sounds really great.
I'll add you, berelinde and jastey to the list, then. :)
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Thumbs up from me :) I'd volunteer to help, but I'd probably be so mortified by the results that I'd delete it right away...instead, may I volunteer to proofread? ;)
Anyways, why not Bodhi? Even the PC from those horrid BG novelizations had a fling with her...
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I guess it's fair game, but I can't imagine what an immortal vampire would gain from mere sex.
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Wouldn't you get level-drained an awful lot?
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"A wild night with Saemon" by Evaine Dian
I doubt that I can come up with something reasonable, but when/if I feel daring, I might give it a try. I don't know if Saemon really is my first choice, however, there are many other characters in BG2 my <Charname> had always wanted to have a "wild night" with.
I guess it's fair game, but I can't imagine what an immortal vampire would gain from mere sex.
Hm, I don't know what she would gain from it, either, apart from fun, but vampires are extremely erotic creatures to me. If you play a female Toreador (or have the right stats) in Bloodlines, you can easily seduce both men and women into more than just blood sucking. :)
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I guess it's fair game, but I can't imagine what an immortal vampire would gain from mere sex.
Hm, I don't know what she would gain from it, either, apart from fun, but vampires are extremely erotic creatures to me. If you play a female Toreador (or have the right stats) in Bloodlines, you can easily seduce both men and women into more than just blood sucking. :)
Maybe I stand corrected. ;)
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Some time ago, I read a more or less scientific essay about the modern image of vampires (not directly D&D, AD&D or VtM, though, just general popular culture), and it said something about vampires having a strong sex drive and the symbolisms of their most prominent feature, the drinking of blood. It's all about "fangs, penetration, sucking and staking". :)
As for Bodhi, I think she would do men and women alike, wouldn't she?
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how about that guy in the copper coronet who flirts with the PC, then runs away if you act interested ? i'm sorry, i cant think of his name right now (its after midnite and i just got off work )
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That's Salvanas.
With Bodhi(or Lassal for females, I suppose) I see how she might use her seductive side to persuade PC to join her - to lure, to promise and so on. It doesn't necessarily have to end in sex, however - well, as a matter of fact, it applies to every encounter. To me, if a male PC hits on a girl and she rejects him - or vice versa - it only adds realism and spice.
I doubt that I can come up with something reasonable, but when/if I feel daring, I might give it a try. I don't know if Saemon really is my first choice, however, there are many other characters in BG2 my <Charname> had always wanted to have a "wild night" with.
Yes, of course - Saemon was just an example.
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This must be good, it got Sim to stop lurking! :o
This sounds good! More women for the guys. Like one of the maids in the castle (fighter quest), Nara mage apprentice (Mage stronghold), the female merchant Umar hills, the woman with the littke kid 'looking' for the daddy of the kid (temple district), Lady Lilith Lurraxol of trademeet (MILF) :P , The woman who gets the 2 guys to fight over her in the Bridge district.
If you use Sime of the thieves guild you might want to put in a check for TS (she is joinable).
Please, please make one of these for BG1!!! An add in to BG1NPC?
What's the name of this Mod? Don Juan Mod or Casanova Mod or Player Mod, or libertine Mod. ParisHilton Mod, Xtina Mod, Slut Mod (I don't think it is a bad word) for the ladies.
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"Romantic Encounters" doesn't sound bad, I think. After all, it is not only about sex - it is also about love... or lack of thereof.
Yes, these are all lovely ladies.
(I wonder though, at which point it might be too much? But since, as practice shows, not everything proposed is going to be written, we are safe here).
I do not think putting checks for the mods will be necessary - rather, coding it in a reasonable manner, so no technical incompatibilities arise, will. The rest is left to the user's discretion: after all, you wouldn't install two Haer'Dalis romances, one on top of the other? Same with this.
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Okay, I might try my hand with Saemon and Aran - not that it is necessarily going to end in anything, mind you.
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Hendak romantic encounter is translated, I am doing debugging now. :)
One question: I want to integrate a variable that can be used by other modders to check for. Can / should we agree on something systematic? I would use "Global("C#_HendakEncounter","GLOBAL",1)" for accepted offer, and "2" after they spent the first night together.
"romantic encounters" is a very good name for the mod imho.
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Yes, this is a good idea. We'll probably want it as simple and consistent as possible, so;
- since I'll probably code most of the stuff, I think using my prefix, O#, for consistency might be better(and O#_ to ensure a unique prefix only for this project).
- we'll probably want two variables set to 1 - one for flirting, one for the actual "night together" thing. So, how about
Global("O#_HendakFlirt","GLOBAL",1) - there was some flirting/innuendo going on;
Global("O#_HendakSex","GLOBAL",1) - they have slept together.
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I think Charisma should come into this some how. Many power gamers have really low charisma, this 'might' teach them a lessen. It could be different for each encounter +/-. Really low less than 6 it doesn't happen. Greater than 16 it might happen more than once. A CC working girl might say something like 'OH.... ...You aren't the best looking guy I have had. For you it will be double'.
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Yes, this is a good idea. We'll probably want it as simple and consistent as possible, so;
- since I'll probably code most of the stuff, I think using my prefix, O#, for consistency might be better(and O#_ to ensure a unique prefix only for this project).
- we'll probably want two variables set to 1 - one for flirting, one for the actual "night together" thing. So, how about
Global("O#_HendakFlirt","GLOBAL",1) - there was some flirting/innuendo going on;
Global("O#_HendakSex","GLOBAL",1) - they have slept together.
Some of us might actually be coding this ourselves. I, for one, would prefer to use my own prefixes, or one without prior affiliations. I am reasonably sure that many other modders would prefer to do likewise. Another modder who wants to detect for our variables is going to have to look up the exact spelling of the variables anyway, they would see which prefix to use. AFAIK, even BG1 NPC contains a couple individual modder prefixes. I don't currently have UB installed, but that might as well.
Another alternative might be to use a common variable prefix unique to Romantic Encounters. As this project is likely to grow as more and more modders become involved, I respectfully propose this alternative. I notice that RE is unclaimed, and that would certainly be an intuitive association for Romantic Encounters, and while it would need to be reserved by an individual, I think using a new, unaffiliated prefix might convey the idea that this is a community effort.
Edit: Also, I entirely agree that BG1 is ripe for this mod, but there are logistical considerations, because the incarnations of BG1 best suited to romantic encounter mods come in 2 flavors, Tutu and BGT. cmorgan, Nythrun, Miloch, et al have come up with a cross-platform naming system that enables modders to code for both at the same time, but it does take some getting used to. I'd personally be interested in this, but I think I'd like to get my BG2 contributions(s) done first.
I would not look for the BG1 incarnation of this to be rolled into BG1 NPC. The purpose of that mod was to improve interaction with existing BioWare party-joinable NPCs, so in terms of scope, it's better off as part of Romantic Encounters. Besides, it's entirely likely that the project team for BG1 NPC would likely scream "No more content!" loudly, and in unison. ;D
//my 2 coppers
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Global("O#_HendakFlirt","GLOBAL",1) - there was some flirting/innuendo going on;
Global("O#_HendakSex","GLOBAL",1) - they have slept together.
I will use those, but for the rest of the code I'd like to keep my prefix, as it's all already coded.
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Off-topic: I have just been off to see Hamilton's Amour et Psyche". Now THAT is what I call a romantic encounter. :)
Okay, now on to business:
Of course, I am all for modders using their personal prefixes. I do think that crossmod-related variables need to be as transparent and clear as possible, however, so I registered RE for this purpose. So, it is
RE_(name)Flirt=1 for flirting;
RE_(name)Sex=1 for sex
- and the rest, is your personal prefix, or me coding it with RE, if you cannot code.
I think it is safe to say that we are talking about BG2 only for the moment, so there is no confusion. Once v1 for BG2 is out, we can proceed from there. (As Tempest said, "one finished mod is better than two half-finished ones").
Also, I suppose it is pretty much self-explanatory that once something is coded and is in the project, it is in the project(so that there's no "Branwen Romance #1" situation on our hands), but I think it is worth to point it out.
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I do think that crossmod-related variables need to be as transparent and clear as possible, however, so I registered RE for this purpose. So, it is
RE_(name)Flirt=1 for flirting;
RE_(name)Sex=1 for sex
100% concurrence
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RE_(name)Flirt=1 for flirting;
RE_(name)Sex=1 for sex
- and the rest, is your personal prefix, or me coding it with RE, if you cannot code.
Also, I suppose it is pretty much self-explanatory that once something is coded and is in the project, it is in the project(so that there's no "Branwen Romance #1" situation on our hands), but I think it is worth to point it out.
Yes to both.
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Absolutely.
umm.
After all, it is not only about sex - it is also about love... or lack of thereof.
ok.
I misinterpreted, I guess. My theme for both the female component and the male component is centered on lust, as stated - I thought that was or theme. Do I need a rethink, or shall I be the dirty [old/kinda] old man of the group?
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Kinda. :)
I don't know how it'll go in terms of "Adult-rated components"/"Teen-rated components" ratio, really - we've just started. I know I will focus on the character development, myself. If you pull off a tasteful erotic scene, that's great, too. (Though, yes, if Renal decides to abandon his guild and to start working in the circus as the end result, or Bylanna Ianulin starts to take bribes all of a sudden, it might be a a little off, but this much is kinda obvious, so).
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The first encounter I undertake will be for an inexperienced young male paladin who will show interest in a female human, elf, half-elf, or halfling.
Part 1: "At an Athkatla Tavern"
Part 2: "Farewells"
Part 3: "We meet again!" (ToB)
Part 4: "Will I see you again?" (ToB)
Part 1 is completely written and coded.
As for the intended maturity rating, it will be adult, on par with Gavin's flirt pack.
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Romantic Encounters
To me this says walks in the moon light by the river, dinner by candle light (not thoes damn continous light globes), seeing a show at the Five Flagons Inn and then maybe a kiss on the cheek before saying goodnite.
cmorgan and I thought you ment something like hooking up, getting it on, bumping uglies. We did not think this ment an X rated encounter. It might not even be R rated. Something like this:
Sirbillybob: Hi, I'm Sirbillybob. Whats your name? :)
serving wench number one: They call me serving wench number one. :)
Sirbillybob: Thats a nice dress you have there. ;)
serving wench number one: Thanks, I like your armor, it's all nice and shinny and hard! ;D
Sirbillybob: When do you finish here? 8)
serving wench number one: At midnight. :)
Sirbillybob: I've got a Royal room, room 8. Why don't you come and see me when you are finished wiht your work?? ;)
As you go to rest at the inn
Knock, knock.
sirbillybob: Well... goodevening serving wench number one. :-*
serving wench number one: You still have your armor on? :-\
Sirbillybob: I have not got into bed yet. ;)
Fade to black.
Morning.
sirbillybob: serving wench number one, that was a nice time last night. :-*
serving wench number one: Not only is your armor hard! :-*
sirbillybob: I 've got to get going with the guys and kill that dragon today. If I live I might come back and see you. ;)
serving wench number one: Don't bother, I've got to wash my hair. :-\
Sirbillybob: :'(
This just shows the difference between men and women. Men don't see a one-night-stand as a Romantic Encounter, just an encounter of a pleasurable kind. ::)
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Who cares what you call it if you enjoy the mod ;)
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Make a name suggestion, then. :)
OK, OK, you made me do it. I wrote, coded and debugged a Solaufein lovenight the last hours. It's all done, except the translation (as always ::) ).
If you want to put it on the list I'd be grateful. And again I would be more than happy to get feedback on this one, too.
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Nice. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this.
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Make a name suggestion, then. :)
How about Romantic Encounters?
It's a fine name.
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I gotta say, I also don't see anything wrong with Romantic Encounters.
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@Chev: It is a great little thing you've written. Want me to add extra replies and stuff, code it and add it? That's very fitting.
And Romantic Encounters - well, it can be about anything. Moonlight and vodka, a wild Friday night(except that Faerun doesn't have Fridays), a burning passion, a crush, a thingy where you think it is a true love, and your partner tactfully reveals it was a one-night-stand the morning after(no, wait. That's RL :) ), anything! So both you and cmorgan and me and berelinde and jastey and (the list will go on) have got it right.
@jastey: Done.
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@Chev: It is a great little thing you've written. Want me to add extra replies and stuff, code it and add it? That's very fitting.
That's what I thought, too.
@jastey: Done.
Thank you. :)
I like the name Romantic Encouters very much. I was just curious what Chev might come up with, something "male compatible", so to say. Because up to now it was females (Kulyok, berelinde, jastey) favouring the name and males (cmorgan, Chev) expressing that it might lead to misunderstandings regarding the mod content. EDIT: Maybe that was putting words into your mouth, cmorgan. Still, there was this ever females: romantic love affair vs males: one-night fling discussion. I love it!
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Yes, the name of the thread reflects it, I guess, since it is about both. :) (I probably should make sure to reflect it in the readme and all announcements, too).
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jastey,
I did give some suggestions ( I too don't like people just criticizing without giving some helpful ideas) in an earlier post, but I think they were (rightfully) dismissed.
What's the name of this Mod? Don Juan Mod or Casanova Mod or Player Mod, or libertine Mod. ParisHilton Mod, Xtina Mod, Slut Mod (I don't think it is a bad word) for the ladies.
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Casanova mod sounds fun, yes, but while some people might play it as Casanova might(i.e. dump Aerie and sleep with each and every lady in town, preferably in a classy manner), some people might just download berelinde's paladin encounter and be done. And some might want to flirt, but leave it at that. And some might want to play evil, and coerce Demin, or Irenicus' dryads, into showing them what they can do. So I think a more general name - Romantic Encounters - is in order. Some of them sexual, some not.
So, how about adding your encounter? :)
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coerce Demin, or Irenicus' dryads
Don't you think it's a bit on a sick side?
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Was Phaere's encounter light and fluffy?
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I don't sleep with her. Though I see your point.
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I did give some suggestions
Upps, sorry, you are right. See, the conflict goes deeper as it seems, as I didn't see those name proposals as serious suggestions. :-[
I think Kulyok said it fine. "Romantic" is for feelings, and "encounter" gives a hint that it might something short and hot. At least that's how I see it (warning, ESL talking. :()
Eh, I didn't mean to start a name discussion here..
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The beauty of the idea, and the current name, is that it leaves the door open to many possibilities. No sense getting so hung up on a name that we lose sight of the flexibiility the current one allows :)
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I have a momentarily lack of memory: Who was Demin again?
The dryads: That's sick, that cruel, that's eeeevil... sounds like it should be implemented.
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I have a momentarily lack of memory: Who was Demin again?
The elven priestess in Suldenesselar IIRC.
The dryads: That's sick, that cruel, that's eeeevil... sounds like it should be implemented.
Amen to that! ;D
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Thank you Gorilym. Hm, I guess we all agree that we do not inlcude rape possibilities, so I don't see Denim as a target, unless someone else has a good idea how a fling with her could work.
The dryads: That's sick, that cruel, that's eeeevil... sounds like it should be implemented.
I mean, it would give the dryads' quest a new quality for an evil PC. What, you want me to take your acorns to your home? Well, and what would be in for me, like, right now?... ;D
Boy, that's cruel. But then they are Dryads... right? Right?
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If the name has not yet been decided, you could always try incorporating words such as "rendezvous," "liaison," "road gig," "quickie," "casual sex," or "tryst."
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"Road Trysts" sounds like a good alternative, yes. Liaison also sounds good and FR-ish to me. Thank you. :)
I think RE will stand as a working name until its release, then we'll all get our heads together and possibly think about it one more time, and in all cases, it sounds like a great list to incorporate in the mod's announcement.
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If the name doesn't imply sex, I might have something to contribute (no further details, unless via PM to people I'd trust blindly with both my nuts). However, if the name implies sex, I won't contribute anything.
Since I'm certainly neither a Domi nor a Kulyok when it comes to writing, you might just say "OK, it'll be `sexual meetings' so that we won't have to read Bigg's inanely bad stuff". If you do, I'll
- cry
- wake up ggiB ehT from ibernation.
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The name only implies interest. However, if the player wants to, he might go beyond simple flirting in *some* encounters, if the writer has allowed it. An example will be berelinde's encounter with a paladin she has mentioned. In other encounters, there will be no sex.
And, again, nothing is forced. If you, the player, are not choosing 'flirty' options, or if you are telling the NPC "go away", or you are plainly saying "no" at a certain point, the encounter gently ends. We do not want a crowd of NPCs chasing you with whips and chains all the way to Icewind Dale, do we? :)
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Encounters where there's 0% chance of having sex (or flirtatious activity) wouldn't fit too well in Casanova mod, but might be suitable for 'Romantic Encounters' :)
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Encounters where there's 0% chance of having sex (or flirtatious activity) wouldn't fit too well in Casanova mod, but might be suitable for 'Romantic Encounters' :)
Not even flirting? Now you made me curious.
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Yes, as I said, players have very different tastes, definitions and preferences, so probably "Romantic Encounters" is the best for now. We'll see how it goes in the future - perhaps there is a totally thrilling name lurking just over the corner, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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Not even flirting? Now you made me curious.
As I said, I won't spoil any details until I actually release (which I'll do if I can adapt my ideas decently to the BG2 medium).
If you know me at all, you'd know that I'm a strong believer in open source and the Debian development system (everything is discussed transparently and democratically by all the of developers and interested users), so you'd guess that there are good motives to me not actually saying what is this going to be about.
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The Bigg: I didn't mean to try you to talk about it now, I said I am curious. So write and submit it so that I can play it! Please. :)
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Romantic Encounters, please, as a name -
I am hoping I am a *little* more literary/artistic than Cassanova[novina]'s but hey - it's my first independent writing.
Four progressively intimate encounters, one aftermath - and epilogue, with pathways for roleplay as "everyone is interested mutually" and "everyone is reluctantly interested mutually" with Kulyok's originally linked story as inspiration for the Dark Mirror (Lust Overcomes Good Sense) (Renal) and the inverse for the Light Mirror (bardess) (Good Senses Inspire Lust).
@Chev -
I am trying to be more subtle than the
"Hey there, Big Boy/Girl/Other, nice long sword you have there..."
"Hmmm... wanna go play?"
"Yeah - come on up to my room. Mom's away."
*assorted noises*
"Cool. Hey, shut the door on the way out, won'ttcha"
"Hey!!! I thought..."
"You thought what? I want more out of a guy/girl/other than a little swordplay, baby."
"*sigh*"
I'm going all introspective, with a theme, motifs, and trying to put control of each scene in the hands of the player. In most cases here, though, you can only develop character to the extent that it doesn't interfere with plot, so (for instance) the hooks to content for Renal Bloodscalp lie in his first discussions with PC - but you have to meet with him separately (cloned .cre at an inn) - no form of real flirting or anti-flirting can take place in the business setting. That would be a Circle/Square/Trpaezoidal thing, with all those bystanders.
That being said, if you wanted to go all Midaevil, there is an encounter in the Strongholds quest that just begs for (male, dirty minded) interpretation that might indeed fit. No one has covered Droit D'Signeur in FR terms, that I know of... :D
and unless i get to be a better writer damned fast, thsi is going to take a little loinger than I thought.
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Liaison also sounds good and FR-ish to me.
The only criticism I might make for "Liaison" is that it implies something that lasts, that isn't fleeting or ephemeral. Not sure it fits here, but that's just me. :P
We do not want a crowd of NPCs chasing you with whips and chains all the way to Icewind Dale, do we? :)
Hum.... ::) Well... That could be funny! (insert rolling on the floor laughing smiley here, that line left me laughing so hard, I had tears streaming down my face!)
Yes, as I said, players have very different tastes, definitions and preferences, so probably "Romantic Encounters" is the best for now.
I would vote for Romantic Encounters! :D
I've had a thought about Salvanas, stop me if you think I'm off my rocker. Wouldn't it seem odd to the veteran playere to suddenly have an eager Salvanas, ready for a one-night stand? Especially when, in the vanilla version, he would run away ("I think I hear my captain calling" was it? :) ) once you started to "warm up to him". Don't get me wrong, I'm all for this whole Romantic Encounters project, I think it would be totally awesome (now I sound like I'm still in high school ::) ), but I'm having second thoughts regarding Salvanas. What made him so "neat" to the female PC is that he had this whole mystery which shrouded him. He'd bug you and your female friends and when you showed the smallest of interests, you would scare him away. Why he did that remained a mystery.
I don't know, what do you guys think, am I totally insane for even asking myself this question? ???
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I think it's a point of "staying in character", and one I am standing by, as well, so, yes, it makes sense.
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Looking at four pages of discussion, discussion, discussion, I became ashamed that magrat finished writing her first - erm, her first encounter for RE mod, I mean - ahead of me, so I've written Teos(the guy from the mage stronghold). Wrapping it up now, and, I am ashamed to say, I am sort of proud of how it is turning out.
(Girls, magrat's Coran is something to look forward to! :) It is good.)
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I take it it's impossible to write a plausible "romantic" encounter with Irenicus? :'(
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(Girls, magrat's Coran is something to look forward to! :) It is good.)
Another mod to add to my "wait patiently for" list...I'm not even sure how far my patience can go! ;D
I take it it's impossible to write a plausible "romantic" encounter with Irenicus? :'(
Probably not...possibly for late ToB/Longer Road, but I've never tried LR so I'm not sure...
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Ever wondered what else could endure female PC under Irenicus' "care" except being blasted with lightnings?
Jon-coordinator: Ah, I see my test subject has finally arrived! I think it's time for us to continue our... intimate... tests, don't you think?
Female Charname: Oh, no...
A joke.
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Ever wondered what else could endure female PC under Irenicus' "care" except being blasted with lightnings?
Jon-coordinator: Ah, I see my test subject has finally arrived! I think it's time for us to continue our... intimate... tests, don't you think?
Female Charname: Oh, no...
A joke.
*can't help but snicker*
As long as Guildmistress Busya's name has been bandied about...
*holds up large sign that says "Logan Coprith"*
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I love the writing in The Longer Road, and, yes, it is better left to Dorotea, should she ever return to modding again(Even though a poll in LR forum, curiously, shows "I think redeeming villains is lame" as the most popular option). By the way, for all you Irenicus fans out there, her online novel about him, post-LR, might be worth a look: http://www.onlinefiction.net/Ashes/BitterAshes.html
And I am happy to say that with jastey's two submissions complete, we have a total of four - but I am going to spend quite a while sorting it all out(and currently I am at work), so. :) Me, I am going to write an evil thingy called "Dreams with Sendai" next. I'll probably edit the top post...
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*stops lurking*
(Girls, magrat's Coran is something to look forward to! :) It is good.)
Gorsh :D It was good fun to do! I have to say that I can't wait to see the finished thing, with my valiant PC determined to sleep his or her way across Amn... (well, perhaps not quite ;) )
And now to think of my next, willing target...
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Ever wondered what else could endure female PC under Irenicus' "care" except being blasted with lightnings?
I know it's a joke and all, but I've always firmly convinced myself that Irenicus would never do such a thing, being soul-less and cold, and based on what you might imply from dialogs with the dryads or Imoen. Besides, what does he need the PC for, when he has three hot dryad chicks at his disposal?! :D Just for the sake of argument...
By the way, for all you Irenicus fans out there, her online novel about him, post-LR, might be worth a look: http://www.onlinefiction.net/Ashes/BitterAshes.html
I love her work, it's a real treat. For some reason, I prefer her BG2 fan fic "A Girl Without a Name", but that's just my personal taste.
And I am happy to say that with jastey's two submissions complete, we have a total of four - but I am going to spend quite a while sorting it all out(and currently I am at work), so. :) Me, I am going to write an evil thingy called "Dreams with Sendai" next. I'll probably edit the top post...
Wow! :o Already? This project's really popular!! Does that mean us gamers will be able to get our hands on it some time... soon? ::) ;D
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Just for the sake of argument...
Go here, please. (http://forums.spellholdstudios.net/index.php?showtopic=14345)
(Oh, and they seem to have deleted the big, 20-page debate).
And, yes, I like "Girl", too. Yoshimo thingy was cool... pity they never got to Spellhold.
Does that mean us gamers will be able to get our hands on it some time... soon?
I think the end of June is a nice date to aim for.
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I love the writing in The Longer Road, and, yes, it is better left to Dorotea, should she ever return to modding again(Even though a poll in LR forum, curiously, shows "I think redeeming villains is lame" as the most popular option). By the way, for all you Irenicus fans out there, her online novel about him, post-LR, might be worth a look: http://www.onlinefiction.net/Ashes/BitterAshes.html
Well, I must admit that I think "redeeming villains is lame", too, because his being such a bad boy is what makes him so sexy. I would like to see an encounter with a wicked, evil Irenicus, not with a tamed, impotent one. I guess what I envision would neglect the main plot, though. :)
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Yeeeees, I guess "impotent" might be the word here. "Erotic Dreams with Irenicus", "Erotic Dreams of Jon Irenicus?", "Jon Irenicus' Erotic Dreams?"
... somehow, it does not seem to work so well.
What I like in the already complete submissions is NPC's motivation: it is present with each character. And so far, I am rather liking this fact, that there is a reason: gratitude, lust, curiosity, temptation, a direct order you cannot defy, a dream of understanding - various motivations that are so diverse make it so much more interesting, and hopefully many players will find something to their taste.
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And, yes, I like "Girl", too. Yoshimo thingy was cool... pity they never got to Spellhold.
Is someone working on Yoshimo?
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Nope, feel free.
Actually, all ye great writers lurking out there: if you are writing something for RE, or going to, tell us so, so we don't have to write it twice. :)
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Well, I've been fooling around with Yoshimo today. I do have some other candidates on my list, but I don't know yet who will prove interesting.
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Ok, I'm pretty new around here but thought I'd throw in an idea I got when I first read about this.
Phaere: If the PC is in a romance and Phaere asks the PC to join her (alone) have the PC's partner make some comment that essentially gives away that they regard the PC as their lover (Arie gasps, Viconia says, "This male belongs to me.", ect.). Now Phaere makes it clear that she stand high up the totem pole and she'll do as she pleases but in a wicked twist she offers the NPC some other male (Not sure which male to use in Ust Natha; could be Soulafein) in exchange. Now with some lovers it is possible the PC can still convince Phaere he is impotent (not with Viconia but certainly with Arie, he can say something along the lines that, "She twittered so because she fears for my safety, because she knows of my condition," or something of the like (IIRC their is stat check to allow the PC to convince her in the default).
Now there are a couple of ways to get out of this situation:
1. For most they can still convince Phaere of their impotence, but the PC also has to help cover up their lover not taking the proffered male. This could be quite challenging and Arie may come very near to blowing the parties cover without the PC intervening with some nice BS story (possibly stat tied, but probably not as then it would force the PC to sleep with Phaere or kill everything in Ust Natha). Jaheria can probably handle the situation with some level of grace and give a passable Drow performance in explaining her lack of interest in the proffered male, ("This male is not as pleasing as the one I had last night in the lust chambers.")
2. For Viconia things get awfully more complicated (this would apply to any other NPC who basically openly gives away that the PC has all the necessary parts in working order). The PC cannot talk Phaere out of the encounter any more. Furthermore they are hard pressed to talk Viconia out of the encounter because Viconia believes that now that the male has been proffered it is necessary that she accept. Needless to say this could introduce some additional strain on the relationship that would require a bit of rewriting to resolve. It should be possible to keep Viconia from sleeping with the male but difficult. If she doesn't sleep with the male she is quite angry at the PC (basically its a jealousy thing and if the PC isn't too cold the romance needn't end, but if he tells her, "This is all your fault," it should end.); if she does sleep with him she apologizes to the PC and tries to explain why it was necessary.
3. The PC can gleefully declare that of course their lover wants to sleep with the male (and they sleep with Phaere). This is a deal breaker no matter what, and Arie should leave the party once they reach the surface (Jaheria too, if the PC does not adequately account for the decision; Viconia is discussed above).
4. The PC can gleefully declare that of course their lover wants to sleep with the male (and they talk Phaere out of their own tryst). This is a deal breaker no matter what, and the romantic interest leaves the party as soon as the UD is over.
This is probably too much work, and I don't know anything about IE modding (I may have time to learn; this is often difficult for me to judge as a PhD student). I might try my hand at writing the dialog for something like this but it would like feed back about the idea first. Also it may be too heavily integrated into a plot point that is unavoidable in SoA which is a bit different from the other flings proposed thus far which can basically be avoided but the only way to avoid this one is to have no romance, a mod romance, or be female (truth be told I can't recall what Phaere does with female PC's; and I wouldn't want to put words in a mod romance character's mouth so the default would play out for them, it could be interesting to have Phaere try to sleep with Anomen though and the PC has to talk her out of it!).
-Starcrunch
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Well, I've been fooling around with Yoshimo today.
I bet you have. ;) *snickers*
truth be told I can't recall what Phaere does with female PC's
Nothing. Phaere's "offer" is only for male PCs. (she's only bisexual in the novelization...and attracted to Imoen at that) To tell the truth, I really like that idea (I was a little disappointed that Phaere was so easily turned down by the PC), but it's probably a little beyond the scope of RE.
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Without giving anything away, I can say that jastey's Solaufein encounter allows the player, though perhaps in somewhat cruel a manner(delightedly in character so, of course), to get a little more insight into Phaere-Solaufein relationship.
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I just had to say I love this idea. I like the variety of different encounters it's going to have.
I would also like to see an encounter with Logan Coprith.
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Yes, the beauty of the idea is that one doesn't have to write thirty-something lovetalks and twenty-something flirts for this - a few kilobytes of (good) text will do nicely. So, basically, you can do it! :)
(Somehow, it reminds me of that BP thread-related "Do it yourself" joke).
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Heh, no Salvanas available? ;D
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I've completed a small quest mod recently, and it has a rather fun Salvanas-type, hits on female PC and all Bioware girls. :)
Also, in magrat's Coran encounter, if PC refuses him, he hits on each Bioware girl in turn. (Guess what they say? )
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Also, in magrat's Coran encounter, if PC refuses him, he hits on each Bioware girl in turn. (Guess what they say? )
He thought it would be worth a try -- even the widowed Jaheira :D And well, he can be so much fun to write for when he's in *that* sort of mood :)
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I probably should share it. :) I've been playing with magrat's Coran, and after a wonderful night my PC and Coran shared, and a morning-after talk, I had this: Coran headed upwards, to Athkatla, disappeared, and a second after a very smug-looking werewolf with a red circle appeared exactly from these bushes, though I didn't code anything. Poor Coran... "Don't mess with nature, or it'll mess with you."
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Oh! As well, I've just realized there might be multiromancers out there. Which means we should probably release romance reactions(that is, Anomen/Aerie/Jaheira/Viconia killing the romance) as a separate component. Yes/No/maybe?
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Although I don't think I would do multi-romances, i wote for "make it a separate install", because otherwise there will be players who try to hack their way to multiromancing-sleeping around and we get the bug reports. ;)
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Yes, I vote for keeping the romance kills/conflict as a separate component. Possibly with an element that could be included in the Cross-Mod Banter Pack at a later date.
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I'd like to vote for a "no problems, no worries" approach, with banter repercussions, perhaps, but leaving RomanceActive shutdowns outside of this mod.
Speaking as a player who might like to see more... adult... content in the mod, I would probably not expect my soon-to-be-significant to remove themselves from the equation over a lusty fling, or even a non-lusty pining away. Unless the PC is already hopelessly comitted, I guess; even then, I would respectfully submit that those of us desiring Romantic encouters in our games would probably prefer not to have our traditional romances completely blown away. These are fantasies; they get to explore that which folks would not do in RL (without serious repercussions).
And in the interests of full disclosure, Renal has turned too dark and difficult for me to handle alone, so I have run crying to berelinde. We are collaborating now (read that as "berelinde is trying to teach me basic authorship and doing lots of rewriting and adjusting") on four encounters for this mod. I once again stand in wonder of Kulyok, Jastey, Domi, berelinde, and so many other Romance authors, who can make characters come alive without taking over, who can balance characterization and good taste, and who can find ways of sharing great stories that are internally consistent and enjoyable.
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Right. I'll make Anomen/Jaheira/Aerie/Viconia reactions into a separate component, then - those who want it will install it.
I must say that, again, I am rather shamelessly giving my encounters a very good "cover" - after all, if a male PC had a dream about Sendai, can Aerie truly blame him? If PC went off for a short while to discuss important matters with Aran, can Anomen throw a fit? And on a ship, it's so easy to feign sea-sickness and get a cabin to yourself... So, I can say that unless it is really something seriously obvious, Bio romances will not be broken in my components, though they *will* complain - again, it will all be detailed in a readme.
And for the mod romances, yes, I'll be providing detailed documentation with related variables, open for the modders to react upon, either in their mods or in the Crossmod Banter Pack.
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So, for the moment I have five encounters(Coran, Hendak, Sendai, Solaufein, Teos) tested and working, so I can finally go and write something else. (I am going to add Bio romance reactions at the very end). Yay, I suppose. :)
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Yay! :)
I can only say that Solaufein encounter atmosphere was improved thanks to Kulyok's input. (At least that's what I think, I haven't played the final version yet.)
I can't get those Dryads out of my mind...
If the dryads offer their ...services to an evil PC for delivering their achorns, would that be realistic / of interest for players? Because the only other possibility I can think of is the PC demanding it, but that's so cruel. (Considering what I did to Solaufein that shouldn't be a problem but somehow, it is. I guess I am strongly biased concerning sexual enforcement against females.) And yet, to evil PCs that's directed, so...?
How does the achorn quest proceed for an evil player; Somewhere I read something about the possibility to givethe achorns to someone else, or is this mod content?
And don't worry the PC has to consider an erotic interlude in Chateau Irenicus. Of course the dryads' service would only be available after the delivery...
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I think it's from Quest Pack. You can give the acorns to another dryad, one of . . . shall we say, less than unimpeachable integrity. She intends to deliver them to a wealthy Calishite slaver, or some such.
Dryads would in general be of interest, but
(Considering what I did to Solaufein that shouldn't be a problem but somehow, it is. I guess I am strongly biased concerning sexual enforcement against females.)
Yes. I imagine if it had that bent, it could be rather controversial.
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I personally view sexual enforcement against both males and females as equally evil, but I am not sure it is within the scope of the mod - after all, the author only provides the possibility, not the moral judgement.
I think after the delivery they'll show a... a rude hand gesture to the PC, figuratively speaking. No chance. Because after that, they are free, they are under the protection of their queen, why would they allow their bodies to another man, since they've been so badly abused already? Besides - and it is a major point, I am thinking - in Windspear Hills they just appear in a cutscene and promptly walk away, so there's really no fitting place to interfere.
In the dungeon, though - I think it might work. "Of course, graceful creatures, here are your acorns. Ulene, your beauty challenges the stars themselves - could this villain truly try and abuse such beauty? I would give my life to spend a night caressing you in my arms... " - Yuck. Of course, this example is too cheesy and disgusting, but something in a same mould, i.e. "Here are the acorns, you are beautiful, I am single, let's shag", or simply a more ruthless "Girls, if you don't oblige, here are the acorns, and I am leaving" could work.
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I don't remember, have I ever written an R-rated sequence for public download? Anyway, it seems like Bodhi might well have one... all optional, of course, even with one part that is optional-optional. :) Does anyone know how to force-level drain?
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I don't think I will write anything for the dryads, sorry if anyone would have liked that one. I don't think it would turn out good. Thank you for your feed back!
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I've been looking at Demin's dialogue file, and I think she might be impossible to do, as well - I don't have a doubt that she'd rather die, so I won't be able to pull it off so it'd look realistic enough.
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So, Bodhi is complete. I am still going to try for Aran and Saemon, since they are the most prominent characters in the game - that is, not counting a bunch of villains, Drizzt and Elminster. Perhaps Elhan, too, if I can pull it off.
Now that I think of it, I think that a dryad is a great idea, but I, like Jastey, do not think I can pull it off with Irenicus' ones. (I just think the poor girls have suffered too much, to be honest). But a completely new dryad, standing somewhere by an edge of a lake in Windspear hills - why not? Make Kelsey's dream come true!
This was an offer, by the way. :)
(I really shouldn't talk about those four succubus chicks in the Watcher's Keep, though. I really shouldn't).
And a brief summary: Lord Logan and Busya were mentioned, Sime is an option, Weathermistress Ada, maybe Garren Windspear, or his child, either of Saerk's children(this could be tied to Anomen's quest, or it could be separate), Rose,
Bylanna, any of the Spellhold inmates, Faldorn, or just some other original/BG1 NPC making an appearance.
And barmaids. There are lots of street girls and barmaids just waiting for it... er, waiting to be written about, that is.
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And a brief summary: Lord Logan and Busya were mentioned, Sime is an option, Weathermistress Ada, maybe Garren Windspear, or his child, either of Saerk's children(this could be tied to Anomen's quest, or it could be separate), Rose,
Bylanna, any of the Spellhold inmates, Faldorn, or just some other original/BG1 NPC making an appearance.
And barmaids. There are lots of street girls and barmaids just waiting for it... er, waiting to be written about, that is.
Can I possibly semi-claim Guildmistress Busya? I think I have an idea for her, though Lord Corpith escapes me somewhat... Can't promise I'll get what I want down, but take this as a sign I'll be making an attempt (though if anyone else can do it better, they can be my guest :D )
I wondered -- is this just for encounters for the PC, or can party members get hit upon too (at the exclusion of the PC)? I know someone who mentioned a rather quirky idea, but it was aimed for Minsc rather than a PC< and I wasn't sure if that'd fit with this kind of mod.
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Okay, added.
I wondered -- is this just for encounters for the PC, or can party members get hit upon too (at the exclusion of the PC)? I know someone who mentioned a rather quirky idea, but it was aimed for Minsc rather than a PC< and I wasn't sure if that'd fit with this kind of mod.
I think we could fit it in, yes. Depending on how quirky. :)
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I was thinking about having a stab at Weathermistress Ada once the paladin is done.
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Great to hear it. :) Added.
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OK, in a fit of randomness (and because I think my Bardess and Renal both deserve a second rewrite/rethink before I really get down to business and code the tough scene) I am tossing together a third much smaller two-encounter component for both male and female PC. Cross Chantelle the Maid off of the list of available NPCs - I am trying for a one-day writeup with significantly less content.
Needless to say, my overestimation of my own authorship abilities has slowed me way, way down, even with berelinde's help and suggestions. ETA is now probably next week.
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Nice, nice. Added. I was always wondering: why did my PC receive only 11500XP(not 15500XP), when she refused to give the girl to that alcoholic ranger? And, yes, I'll probably be making suggestions, when I receive the draft, too. :)
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Elhan done.
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Elhan done.
Ooh! Will this be only for Elven female PCs?
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Chanelle done, but needs tweaking from a unique perspective.
I hesitate to ask this, but must, as I feel that it is not fair to leave people out... if someone female who prefers girls (or enjoys RL romance with both males and females) would feel ok with test running an R-rated Chambermaid/Confidante with a female PC, please *privately* PM me for a link. I can promise anonymity if you would like, or shouting from the rooftops if you like - I just need some guidance and a check to make sure I am not writing insulting stuff on the "non-male PC alternative" side.
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@cmorgan: I am sure there will be others, but I'd like to see what you've come with, as well - so, you are welcome to PM me with a link, too. Thank you!
@RavenBlack: for elves of both genders, but unlike Bodhi, it comes without a R-rated sequence, talking only. Quite a lot of talking, in fact.
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Okay, so. A nice little dinner with Aran is complete, and so is Chanelle the Maid from De'Arnise keep(well, her draft is. Testing, editing, blah-blah-blah are not).
By the way, I've just realized there're Ribald, lady Yuth and bonus merchants out there, so, if you, like, really need a discount... :)
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I've been writing something for Ribald for a while already. :)
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So, what will it be? Ribald, Yoshimo, both? :) (You still need these .d files, by the way?)
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Oh, I see that someone is finally doing this mod! That is very nice of you! ^^'
I will certainly try it out... And I am quite curious as to what was put in the Solaufein sequention, too...
And Elhan :| The idea itself is giving me a violent mood. Geez, how I despise thas guy... I would make him romance Korgan if I had the power/ BG2 was realistic as to the abilities of the Enchanters;p
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Yes, everyone has their preferences, which makes the idea all the more appealing. :)
NOTE: For the moment, I think we have enough gender-neutral/same-sex content to have it relatively realistic and satisfactory(and not to make everyone around available to both genders): cmorgan's Chanelle the Maid, jastey's Solaufein, and my Elhan's expansion(which might be a little more than friendship, but still). However, if you really want to add another encounter like that, please, check with me.
I've been thinking about joinable NPCs, as well, but my most serious reason contra is that it might be difficult to keep it to one encounter - it has a very good chance to grow into a full-blown mod, which is probably outside of the scope of this project. Though, of course, a perspective of a fling with Haer'Dalis, Eldoth, Safana, Yoshimo, Sarevok, Edwin or Valygar(though these two have been done as full romances) is tempting, especially with such little gems as Siblings (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3256032/1/), The Zenith (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2774118/1/) and The Shared Soul (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3416801/1/) available.
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So, what will it be? Ribald, Yoshimo, both? :) (You still need these .d files, by the way?)
Ribald is going ok, but Yoshimo doesn't turn out as I want him to, so I don't know about him. So far, I have all the files I currently need, thanks!
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Okay, great - I added Ribald. Let me know when you're finished. :)
cmorgan's Chanelle has been incorporated. (Delicious, but I never mentioned this).
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Though, of course, a perspective of a fling with Haer'Dalis, Eldoth, Safana, Yoshimo, Sarevok, Edwin or Valygar(though these two have been done as full romances) is tempting
Hrm. Eldoth. Safana. Is this being extended to Tutu? (and can we have jealous spats from Skie and possibly Coran, as Coran's BG1NPC romance doesn't start if Safana's in the party?)
A fling with Haer might be a touchy subject, if done while he's wooing Aerie...catfight! ;D
cmorgan's Chanelle has been incorporated. (Delicious, but I never mentioned this).
Don't tease, Kulyok! ;)
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Added Aerie/Jaheira/Viconia/Anomen's reactions to the more "obvious" encounters: that is, Anomen may not object if you ask Elhan about Suldanessellar, but Aerie will be rather upset if a maid in your Keep helps you into a bath.
On to Saemon - man, this one *is* difficult.
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Hrm. Eldoth. Safana. Is this being extended to Tutu? (and can we have jealous spats from Skie and possibly Coran, as Coran's BG1NPC romance doesn't start if Safana's in the party?)
Well, joinable characters are a part of BG1 NPC Project, which has its disadvantages in that only a particular character guardian is able to write for the character. I don't know, really - an Eldoth fling in a separate mod is tempting, but then again, it would lead to a full Eldoth mod in no time.
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Don't know if I would mind a full Eldoth mod. I don't know why, but the miserable slime-ball is just so... appealing.
And no, I have no explanation for the attraction, as I suspect that if I met him IRL, I'd want to break his kneecaps. Slowly. With the back of a teaspoon.
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Agreed about attraction. Pity Hendryk had to abandon his Eldoth for BG2 project.
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read through the post, and it sounds great!!! Most of my charaters are more likely to go on a series of one-nighters than have any serious relationship (Not that they reflect me in ANY way at all)
Question, (Probably stupid) my PC WOULD be able to go on a everyhting-that-moves love spree, and not just limeted to the one, yes?
If you need any spare dialog written, I'd be happy to lend a hand, of course ^^ Probably for girls cos Im unlikely to persue that course and I want it to be a suprise.
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Yes, your character will be able to travel through all these encounters, and enjoy each in turn. I hope you'll enjoy version 1 when it comes out. :)
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Hurraa! This sounds perfect. Is there any complete list of everyone who is going to be in it? (I have read the thread, I'm sorry If I've overlooked it :-\)
Any guess work for when Version 1 is out? I know, I know when its done hehe :)
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Is there any complete list of everyone who is going to be in it?
It's in the first post of this thread.
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....Uh. Sorry heheh, oops.
Nah, it's just I saw some other bits mentioned in the thread that arnt up, guess they've been scrapped lol.
Anyways looking forward to it, go guys!
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Some of the bits that are mentioned but not in are no dobut underway but not finished yet. For example, I'm working on an original NPC paladin encounter, and the SoA portion is done, but I'm still working on the ToB portion. I'm also working on a submission for Weathermistress Ada, but it's still only about 1/4 done. Laran's taking a while because my muse has been very vocal, and it's a lot more developed than I thought it was going to be at the outset. I'm doing the coding as I go, or perhaps it's better to say that cmorgan and I are doing tag-team writing/coding, so at least I won't have to wait for someone else to code that monster.
I've got tonight and most of the weekend available for the project, although I do have to spend some time in front of the mic for another project, so I hope to have a beta to Kulyok for inclusion by the end of the weekend.
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Delighted to hear it. :) I am hoping to wrap up Saemon tonight, if I can - and I think unless I really, really want to do a Yoshimo Fling or something, that's it for me. I'd love to do a test run with all this at last, though - finally!
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Will there be a Haer'dalis fling? *pleasepleaseohplease!*
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I think Alatariel is doing a Haer'Dalis romance over at SHS, and Kania is doing a Haer'Dalis romance over here (http://andrey.ws/forums/index.php?showtopic=70).
As well, I'll gladly code a Haer'Dalis fling if it gets written, sure. Now, if only we could talk Blackcross-Taylor of FanFiction.net into writing it... :)
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It's such a pity that JPS and the others have dissappeared :'( there could be HD romance already ::)
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I liked zan's examples the most, myself - pity there were only two lovetalks and a few fanfiction stories, and this was it.
Good news - Saemon is finished.
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Boo for lack of Haer fling, but hurra for saemon finished!! I would write it myself, but I realy wanna play it :'(
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What's Haer'Dalis' appeal, anyway?
/me braces for the inevitable swift kick to the face
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The closest I've ever been able to come to answering that question is "One man's meat is another man's poison."
//joins Western Paladin in looking for a really big rock to hide behind
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I guess Haer is one of the few Bioware NPCs who is... well... suitable? Especially for those PCs who cringe at the thought of children - because horns and tails and hoofs do not always look adorable.
Because - well, Anomen has a romance already, Keldorn has Maria, Jan has Lissa, Sarevok has Tamoko, Korgan says a Bhaalspawn is too much for him, Cernd will probably be wary of begetting another child he does not really need(also, he does reject Viconia's advances, though probably many in his place would :) ), Minsc - well, I think that apart from frolicking in bushes of suspicious nature, he is mostly hopeless, so... who remains? Valygar and Edwin(who have mod romances already), Yoshimo and Haer'Dalis.
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Hmm, come to think of it, a Yoshimo fling is not impossible, either. But - why would he do it?
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Hmm, come to think of it, a Yoshimo fling is not impossible, either. But - why would he do it?
My guess is guilt, maybe, or maybe if CHARNAME aproaches him about it, he's unlikely to reuse since he knows what he's done to her? Or knows he's gonan die anyway so he might as well get some final action hehe.
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Hmm, come to think of it, a Yoshimo fling is not impossible, either. But - why would he do it?
Because he's male and she's hot?
Believe it or not, that's the charitable answer. The less charitable one is that it would allow him to exert some control over someone he hates and fears. I cannot imagine that he would be all roses and tenderness over it, but I don't know if he'd give himself away all that much. The private satisfaction of knowing that he has achieved dominance over his sister's killer might be a powerful aphrodesiac.
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Because he's male and she's hot?
Yes, I think this is a universal argument. :)
I think I might do it. I'll not be bringing Tamoko either way, though - Gaider himself said recently and explicitly "No, this isn't true"(trivia at best) about Tamoko subplot, and I never liked it, anyway. Two random strangers in Kara-Tur, proving to be a brother and a sister - too much of a stretch for me.
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Gotta say that of the two suggestions I offered, I preferred that one.
Extending and possibly supplementing existing game plots is the business of "Unfinished Business." Romantic Encounters has a very different mission statement. :)
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Anyone considered a (very literal) experience system? Each time the character has an intimate encounter, a 'SexXP' variable could be incremented. The generic script for commoners could be tweaked to allow the PC to approach any commoner of the appropriate gender (or maybe just anyone :pirate) and attempt to seduce them based on their SexXP level. Variable chances of success, modifiers for charisma and physique, etc. Would this be pointless? Yes! Fun? What's not fun about seducing as many of the commoners in Amn as possible? lol. Sorry. Couldn't resist. I miss the Fallout series (possibly the best games ever). The traits section of my Vault Dweller looked something like: Sex Appeal, Kama Sutra Master, Sexpert, Porn Star. ;)
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Er, that would involve tweaking every NPC in the game, some of whom don't even have scripts.
I wouldn't presume to speak for Kulyok, but I wouldn't want to be involved in that.
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holy cow, man, my brain is frying from trying to deal with a minor female fling, a major female fling, and a major male fling - and you wanna do *what*???? :D
Look, if you want to go that way, you are going to have to increment the following globals, too...
Male PC:
IncrementGlobal("RE_PCchanceOfIlligitimateChildren","GLOBAL",1)
Female PC:
IncrementGlobal("RE_PCchanceOfPregnancy","GLOBAL",1)
Both:
IncrementGlobal("RE_PCchanceOfBirthControlFailiure","GLOBAL",1)
IncrementGlobal("RE_PCchanceOfPowerfulAngryRelative","GLOBAL",1)
IncrementGlobal("RE_PCchanceOfUnwantedDisease","GLOBAL",1)
IncrementGlobal("RE_PCchanceOfReputationDecrease","GLOBAL",1)
IncrementGlobal("RE_PCchanceOfRLPlayersSpouseDecidingBG2IsTooGraphicForPlaying","GLOBAL",1) ::)
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Look, if you want to go that way, you are going to have to increment the following globals, too...
(...)
ROFL ;D
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Look, if you want to go that way, you are going to have to increment the following globals, too...
(...)
LMAO
Er, that would involve tweaking every NPC in the game, some of whom don't even have scripts.
I wouldn't presume to speak for Kulyok, but I wouldn't want to be involved in that.
No. There are common scripts assigned to each commoner to control certain routine behaviors, and besides which it'd be a simple matter to patch appropriate creatures to use different scripts (or an override script). I've been on vacation from modding for a while now, so I can't recall certain specifics offhand, but I think its very doable.
However, the suggestion was mostly for humor. :pirate
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Anyone considered a (very literal) experience system? Each time the character has an intimate encounter, a 'SexXP' variable could be incremented.
Unfortunately, experience in quantities does not grant good performance. :)
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For those who, like me, enjoy romantic content, I would like to point out that today, Domi's wonderful(I've had a nice long peek at the dialogue files, so I think I know what I am talking about :) ) IWD2 NPC mod hit a public alpha, so, if you are interested in looking at it or playtesting it, please, head over to http://forums.gibberlings3.net
And, yes, there are romances.
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Hey, just a little quick clarification requested, for those who might be interested...
Is it OK if the contributors write our own BioWare NPC romance conflicts/NPC reactions? I've got one already written for Anomen for the SoA portion, and something in mind for ToB.
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I think it is okay, just as it is with the other components: if I have concerns, it is a subject for discussion, otherwise, it is in right away.
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A fling with Yoshimo is finished.
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Cool.
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Kulyok, you never cease to amaze me! :o
Yoshimo, now... I really think he would be a tricky one to write a RE for. He seems like such a complex character, a tragic figure of sorts. He's supposed to betray the PC, but might end up befriending him/her after all the dungeon crawling they've done together.
So, wow. Can't wait to see *that* one. :D
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Well... yeah... you'd better wait till its release - you may hate it, for all I know. :)
(And my current all-time favourite is Diriel from IWD2 NPCs - *that* is one hell of a romantic encounter. Recommended.)
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Unfortunately, experience in quantities does not grant good performance. :)
Practice makes perfect. :pirate
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well, practice makes permanent... and perhaps in this case permanent is almost as good as perfect ;D
Renal and Bardess making slow but steady progress. Will have a preliminary ETA by Friday.
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Cool. :)
Bardess will be especially popular, I bet - we seem to have quite a few male options for ladies, but very few female options for gentlemen, especially for those who do not take the fighter stronghold and do not fancy vampires or their half-divine siblings.
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I will see what I can do ;)
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Just finished writing and scripting the paladin encounter. Just some quick tp2 work, and I'll have an alpha to test locally before forwarding.
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Yay! :)
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I'd like to note that currently we have eleven fully functional submissions(which is good), and several more in progress(see the first post for details).
So, it might be just the right time to look at the list, think of a character you'd like to see here, and create a little miracle, making players fall in love, feel lust or just feel for the one you have chosen.
Or you could also post your wish - or a whole wishlist - here. Though without someone to write the encounter just the way *you* envision it, an idea might remain just that - an idea.
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Hear'dalis. I would write but I'm working on the drunk-banters right now. (Thats just an excuse to say I don't wanna write it I wanna play it ;) )
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Yes, as it was mentioned before, Alatriel and Kania are both writing a full romance(as opposed to just a fling, or an encounter) for him.
There were other attempts, one of which(and the ideas behind it, where Haer'Dalis is not depicted as a committed, happily-ever-after type, but in line with his Doomguard philosophy and his flighty side both) I rather liked, but I am sorry to say I was unable to reach the original author.
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Yeah, Zan dissappeared for good unfortunately. That was my fav of the attempted HD romances as well, though I have not seen Alatriel's version, so I'd wait till that comes out.
As far as ideas, Phaere could be interesting if expanded into something more than a black-out.
A romantic interlude on the ship with Sime - or the result of there of as a conversation in Brynnlaw
Also, one of the gypsies in Trademeet atracted to PC's unusual destiny could be quite spicy.
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Zan rocked, yeah. Sigh.
Also, one of the gypsies in Trademeet atracted to PC's unusual destiny could be quite spicy.
Ooooh! If I can pull it off, I might try this one.
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I just had to share this - I found a friend's suggestion too funny, and whipped this up for you... [it is a JOKE!!! No Tutu modding for RE!!!!]
CHAIN IF ~Global("RE_Noober","GLOBAL",1)~ THEN BEGIN NooberRomanticEncounter
~Heya.~
= ~Come here often?~
= ~Heya.~
= ~Is that hair real, or a wig?~
= ~Are you a natural blonde?~
= ~Will you show me?~
= ~Heya.~
= ~Can I buy you a drink?~
= ~Heya.~
= ~Has anyone ever told you you have pretty eyes?~
= ~Heya.~
= ~Heya.~
= ~Wanna come up and see my sketches?~
= ~You sure are pretty.~
= ~Do you want to see my tattoo?~
= ~Heya.~
= ~Can I have your phone number?~
= ~You smell nice.~
= ~Heya.~
= ~Do you wanna dance?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~Wanna come up and see my sketches?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~You smell nice.~
= ~Heya.~
= ~Gee, your skirt is short.~
= ~What color are your underwear?~
= ~Do you wanna see mine?~
= ~Do you wanna dance?~
= ~Has anyone ever told you you are cute?~
= ~What is your sign? Mine is Taurus.~
= ~Do you wanna go home with me?~
= ~Wanna come up and see my sketches?~
= ~Can I go home with you? My parents are still up.~
= ~Heya.~
= ~You sure are pretty.~
= ~Did you always look like this, or did you have plastic surgery?~
= ~Has anyone told you you could be a supermodel?~
= ~I have a really cool car. Wanna see?~
= ~Do you like sports?~
= ~Heya.~
= ~Who's your cute friend?~
= ~Wanna go make out?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
= ~How about now?~
== ~PLAYER1~ ~(PC picks up her barglass, smashes it over Noober's head, grinds her stilleto heels through his foot, and gestures for the bouncer to remove the body)~
== ~Noober~ ~(feebly, from the bar floor) How about now?~
END
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
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......I can't believe I have seen this twice now. Cmorgan this is going to give me a nightmare!!! aaaah! *kills Noober in a painful pitiful way*
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Comedy gold.
Or you could also post your wish - or a whole wishlist - here. Though without someone to write the encounter just the way *you* envision it, an idea might remain just that - an idea.
I also like Sime. The other one that immediately comes to mind is Anishai, from Mae'Var's guildhall.
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Aha. All noted.
cmorgan, would you mind if I replaced surgery/car references for something Faerunish and got it in, somewhere around Bridge District or thereabouts? It's pretty good.
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Oh, Anishai is a perfect candidate. She already hits on the PC, but it never goes any further.
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Yep, and she's free for the taking, too. :)
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You know, I've barely begun Weathermistress Ada, certainly not enough to lose sleep over not finishishing her (although I might for version 2). Maybe, once I can finally get Laran tested and send him off, which will be this weekend, I'll turn my attention to her. Very, very good...
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Gotcha. I'll look at Anishai's in-game dialogue. When I was playing, I always just passed her by/got the Rogue Stone and other treasures from under her nose.
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With Sime, I seem to recall that she teleports away almost immediately, and that Sim's Quest Pack adds an eventual fate for her(which is mostly dying, but still). Could work, though...
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Okay, a dryad and a gypsy are done. I'm reminded of a "One-Day NPC: superior to a quickie?" (http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php/topic,17061.0.html) topic. Vividly. :)
@cmorgan: I really want this Noober in BG2. May I? Pretty please?
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You've got Neeber in trademeet, IIRC...
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Neeber in Trademeet, Noober in Bridge District. Sounds good to me.
(I know for sure that I never visit any locations in Trademeet, except for the place where I receive the quest&the reward, and the market, so).
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Well, I think it was Menelanna's suggestion... :D
As I said before, it is your property once I post it, Kulyok - I meant it as a complete joke, to tease/amuse Menelanna, but if you want to adapt it for a BG2 install and remove the 4th-wall breaking stuff, you are welcome to it :) Just make sure there is a warning, so Mene doesn't chase my characters around on our PBP campaigns and beat me mercilessly with her mace...
on a serious note, berelinde and I *will* have our 4 originals done by the time V1 is ready, in spite of my trial offering and her offering extension of above - we said we would, and we will, even if we have to drag the dialogue kicking and screaming from its hiding place and wrap it up in chain-link code. (Wait a minute... that is Imoen Romance material - note to self, no whips and chains.)
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Whips and chains? This sounds good... hmm... nah, can't think of a fitting candidate, at least just yet. Okay, Noober's in.
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Will Noober walk up to the pc and start talking? Repeatedly? That's too funny!
Oh, noes, I just had a chilling thought! Cmorgan, you do realize that Kulyok might just credit that to you... You will go down in history as the one who penned the Noober romance!
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With Sime, I seem to recall that she teleports away almost immediately, and that Sim's Quest Pack adds an eventual fate for her(which is mostly dying, but still). Could work, though...
She teleports off the ship, but iirc she stands and waits for the PC in Brynnlaw on the road up to Spellhold. Again, if memory serves me well.
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Yep, that she does. If anyone would like to write Sime and Anishai(the monk, though her dialogue states are a bit chaotic), they are welcome to. I can't think of either as desirable at the moment, which effectively blocks any decent writing effort.
And, yes, cmorgan, you do have the credit. The lines are yours, after all. :) Testing it *was* a pain, however.
I should add NPC reactions down the road, but that's later. To sleep, to sleep...
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Just thought I would put my 2 cents worth in...
Could we possibly allow Korgan to show Nalia's auntie a "good time" after she stuns the freckles off my face with her verbal onslaught of self-superior idiocy!
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Or even a wierd sex trade with the Cambion in Watcher's Keep. The PC might freakingly be attracted to the demon, and if the Cambion looses the card game the PC might coerce more payment in the form of outsider love. :o
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My suggestion (self-serving though it is) is to open up the Noober dialogue to eveyone in project, so that the various Bioware NPC work is less of a pain (and then I don't get *all* the hatemail...)
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Okay, v3(same link, only 3 instead of 2) is up. Contributors only.
Oh, and I've added some reactions to Noober - every girl comments once, and Anomen twice.
I'm holding back on testing/editing, since I'm not sure whether it's better to wait until all components are assembled. But I'm perfectly willing to start the process. Opinions?
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The paladin encounter is available, and the DL link has been sent to Kulyok. Preliminary alpha testing done, through all pathways.
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At the moment, I'm testing Ribald, squashing some bugs/typos and altering some things a bit. If everything works as intended, I might finish it tomorrow.
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My day just keeps getting better. Good news. :)
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Or even a wierd sex trade with the Cambion in Watcher's Keep. The PC might freakingly be attracted to the demon, and if the Cambion looses the card game the PC might coerce more payment in the form of outsider love.
I've actually whipped up a small Cambion add-on; quotes around the word "affair" in the readme will give you a clue that you might be in for a disappointment, though. It's more of a story value than of an actual romance.
Could we possibly allow Korgan to show Nalia's auntie a "good time" after she stuns the freckles off my face with her verbal onslaught of self-superior idiocy!
No, but you've given me an (unrelated) idea I will happily exploit in a minor quest tomorrow. :)
And this is also probably the place to say that I don't think I will be writing coercion/prostitution material - for the time being, I don't find anything in these themes that I would like to explore in a roleplaying game.
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Understandable Kulyok. The choice is, of course, yours.
I at least always use my imagination in that particular scene in d'Arnise Keep.
But I cant help but wonder. Look at all the love/sexual activities that exist in our day and age. What peculiar sexual practices would exist in a world filled with elves, dwarves, haflings, dragons and magic! Sex with magical influence! Spin the hafling "comfort woman" on top of ... By the gods!
Plus I believe Bioware themselves set the tone when we learn in TOB Bhaals fornication with certain species! A Giant, a Dragon!
All the best Kulyok, and may you continue to unleah your creativity upon the Realms
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Due to my new discovery of Gavin for BG1 (while playing just as Xan's friend, no less!), Guildmistress Busya has, er, not yet been fiinished... tum ti tum. However, I'm finding more free time again (how dare new jobs be so time consuming) and so I'll see what I can get done, without giving myself another time limit that I'll completely fail at keeping :D
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Heheh.
... and to frighten you all, I've just downloaded and perused Cyric's quintet, the Avatar Series.
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Plus I believe Bioware themselves set the tone when we learn in TOB Bhaals fornication with certain species! A Giant, a Dragon!
A chinchilla! *snigger*
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It's June 19th, and while I hope we will acquire several more components, my install has about twenty now, so I think we could start testing soon.
So! We need
- one native English speaker who will tell us how wrong we are; that is, an editor;
- at least one person who will do a BG2 run with a male protagonist, romancing everything in sight(preferably who will take the Fighter Stronghold and Bodhi's side);
- at least one person who will do a BG2 run with a female protagonist, romancing everything in sight(preferably who will take the Mage Stronghold and Aran's side);
You are required to:
- read the Readme;
- play the mod(or read the texts);
- report back via PM/e-mail.
If you are willing, please, post here, so you couldn't wriggle out of it afterwards. :) I'll get to you via PM as soon as the beta for testing is up.
(To all those in possession of the SEKRIT LINK: I'll try and upload v4 tonight, if I can).
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I'd offer, but I know for a fact I lack the time to seriously play through. I will, however, look over what I have and let you know if I see any typos or anything, and I do have a couple of games running through (sluggishly!) the BG2 game who might suddenly decide that they've found their libidos...
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That's great to hear. I'm fairly confident that typos are few(I do have this annoying habit of checking everything in MS Word), but I am rather more interested in "This encounter did not go well for me, because... Aran felt totally random after I said this and this... This encounter was interesting, but there and there it was prolonged and that steamy bit was unnecessary... Because of this canon evidence, Yoshimo would not do this..." and so on.
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I'd like to request that if any dialogue is going to be edited for content, that the modders in question be given the opportunity to allow the edit or to withdraw their submissions, possibly releasing them as a separate entity under their own sponsorship. I didn't spend a month of my life working on my submission to have it wind up in somebody's recycle bin or to find it presented in a form I wouldn't recognize.
By "edit for content" I do not mean correcting typos or punctuation. I mean any edit where one or more words are deleted, changed, or added.
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I think I've mentioned my position on editing on the first page.
I am talking about receiving feedback both from people who would play the mod and read the dialogue: I do want to know how people would react to my submissions, for one. Acting upon it is another matter entirely, though I'll certainly be forwarding all feedback to the relevant authors.
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As long as the modder has the ability to accept *or reject* proposed editorial changes, and retains the right to withdraw the submission or release the material either as part of a different project or as an entirely separate entity, I'd be content.
Feedback is fine. I'd certainly like to hear what players have to say on any given encounter. ;)
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Yes, the fact that a submission is in means that I am satisfied with its quality and have no pressing concerns. You'll have to deal with the feedback on your submission as it comes; I would trust the participants' common sense in this matter.
And, yes, it is still your material, and if you'd like to release it as a standalone mod or a part of "SHS strikes back", you are welcome to - I recall jastey wanted to make a standalone Ajantis Romance for BG1 at some point, and Domi was okay with it.
I'd prefer Domi's position on BG1 NPC Project: "once the texts are coded, they cannot be pulled", as I said on page 2:
Also, I suppose it is pretty much self-explanatory that once something is coded and is in the project, it is in the project(so that there's no "Branwen Romance #1" situation on our hands), but I think it is worth to point it out.
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I second what berelinde said. Although I didn't have the impression it was planned to do otherwise.
Texts cannot be pulled is OK and we agreed, but what berelinde means is that she doesn't want her texts to be changed without her consent (sorry if I talk in third person, I know it's unpolite). These two things are no contradiciton imho.
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Yes, of course.
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What I am aiming for is a chance to receive feedback and critique before release: the practice shows that v1 gets the highest number of downloads, and so (while it is not very likely, it is possible) we may receive a flood of interesting and sensible suggestions which would be very useful for v1, but we'll only be able to implement them (if any, that is, if we consent to) in v2. Which sucks. Hence, "tell us where we're wrong now".
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That's a good approach. As I said, I agree in principle to berelinde's statement and wanted to say that although I didn't have the impression you wanted to outlive any kind of uberpower. If you know what I mean.
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I'm too lazy for this sort of thing, I'm afraid. :)
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Nah, I didn't think you were going to go on a slashing spree and cut out everybody's lines. Jastey summed it up pretty well.
By "standalone or independent release," I mostly meant that I dont' want to ever say that I would never do anything using the character ever again. Given the nature of the encounter, it's unlikely that such a thing could happen, but you never know. ;D
As nothing in this life is ever certain, should the mod fall into the hands of a less scrupulous editor, years hence, I wouldn't want to suddenly find out that poor Laran is now selling his body for black lotus, or that the entire thing ends at "Will you walk with me?" Of course, were such a thing to happen, I'd probably never know. :-\
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Remember, you're talking to the girl who made the not a comma changed, not a word tweaked - regardless of the circumstances (http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showtopic=4564) post two years ago! :) Though I'd like to hope I've somewhat relaxed my policy since then - seeing the hell edited out of one's work and the said work becoming much better as a result might do it to a person. But, again, this is not the question here.
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I'll play through with a female protaganist, if you haven't allready found a volenteer ^^
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Cool! I'll PM you with the link - hopefully within a day or so.
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Ooh, can I volunteer to proofread? :)
Proofreading's one of my favorite ways to relax after a day of wanting to strangle people at work. (retail sucks, and I'm a bit of a weirdo)
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Strangling people... why can't I strangle a couple of thousand users or so? If not for their bug reports, I'd be writing stuff all day long. Sigh... (never mind, wishful thinking)
Sure, you're in. :)
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Kulyok: OMG, people are playing your mod?! What are they thinking?!
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Panic, panic, we're all doomed! And they are going to play your components of our mod, too, so don't kid yourself - run!
Ahem. And some news: I've got some voiced samples for Rebecca(thank you very much, berelinde!), and I'll include them tonight. If any of you have anything else to submit - you're very welcome to.
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Nobody told me about this. I want to withdraw my submissions.
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I was just about to have a heart attack. :)
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You saw me grinning. I never can do such jokes without grinning. Noone ever falls for these kind of jokes when I try them. :'(
(Heh, sorry about that. I couldn't resist. Actually I was afraid you'd agree, if only for the joke.)
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*youv'e* got it bad... NOT! Just remember, you are an established Authoress, as are Kulyok and berelinde.
*I*, on the other hand, will have my first independent mod submissions as an erotic fantasy using an adaptation of Droit Du Signeur, and a Noober Romance.
I shall be drummed out of the corps! (I have to get moving on other stuff, to make sure there is standard content out there with my name on it...)
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Ta! Orlovsky's series "Richard - Long Arms", for one, count twelve books now, millions of copies sold, and his discussion threads are overflowing with questions like "When will Richard finally exercise it[this particular right]? When?" 'Tis as popular as ever.
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*I*, on the other hand, will have my first independent mod submissions as an erotic fantasy
Leaving the rest of the sentence out of it, that sounds very, very appealing. (rawr :))
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And don't forget Anishai...
Seriously, though, this has been a lot of fun, cutscene headaches aside. I wouldn't discount the experience of writing these just because they don't offer a joinable NPC with 6 banters per BioWare NPC, an adaptive multi-path romance 30 talks long, an alternative friendship path that offers "benefits" for a PC of either gender, an NPC-NPC romance, four original quests with sparkling new areas, full voicing, hand-drawn portraits, 250 non-repeating flirts, and 15 different epilogues.
Sometimes, you want a big meal, other times, you want a choice of snacks. And many people would agree that hors d'oevres can be both beautiful and tasty.
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Rawr! :) Oh, and I want Anishai, too.
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Okay, beta is up, I am sending PM's. From this point on, testing has started, so if you'd like to participate, tell me so. You'll have to provide us with reading/playing RE feedback in return, though, so keep this in mind.
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:o ok, the b and c team are putting the pedal to the metal and will aim for Saturday-ish rough submissions of (in alphabetical order) Ada, Anishai, Renal, Sheri (in inappropriateness of content from most adult to soap-opera-level ) / Anishai, Renal, Sheri, Ada. (I think you are right, Kulyok. Spoken only interaction is much more dangerous - something that describes absolutely nothing, but plays as a soundtrack of conversation, leads to a *way* much adult feel, even when the conversation could actually technically be construed as non- sexual.). Anishai, Renal, and Sheri are equal collaborations, unless something jumps out as stinky, in which case I assure you that the stinkiness in question is 99% likely my writing, not berelindes. Ada is berelindes, unless something changes drastically in the next few days. After that, I'm out, as far as I know, unless berelinde has ideas that we haven't collaborated on... I need to get my mind out of eros for awhile, and get back to coding/learning how to write "regular" dialogue. AFAIK, we have Anishai as completely spoken (no action text), the other three use varying degrees of action text. Renal and Sheri will both need a single room cutscene and move-to borrowed from you, please, Kulyok; we are going to stick to dialogue coding in the interests of getting things out the door and to you.
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Renal and Sheri will both need a single room cutscene and move-to borrowed from you, please, Kulyok; we are going to stick to dialogue coding in the interests of getting things out the door and to you.
Not a problem. Sheri could use Saemon's room, and I could get a copy of Mae'var's bedroom for Renal - it has a very pretty fireplace. Just write StartCutSceneMode and add in comments what a cutscene should do.
I love "no action text" sequences, myself. There are two exceptions for me, though:
1) sometimes a line of action text is required, lest the player does not understand what is going on - Xan's first kiss in BG1 Xan Romance's early draft was just such a case;
2) if I want to present a PST-esque vignette of sensations/set a scene with a pretty metaphor(aka your "measure me" in Chanelle).
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Spoken only interaction is much more dangerous
Especially when exposed to an overactive imagination. ;D
*I*, on the other hand, will have my first independent mod submissions as an erotic fantasy using an adaptation of Droit Du Signeur
And you have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of, in that case. Chanelle's absolutely delicious. :)
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I quite agree. cmorgan, you have renewed my confidence that our existing joint projects will offer good dialogue as well as good coding. :)
(FWIW: he did all the dialogue on that one on his own. I had nothing to do with it... although I wish I did.)
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And don't forget Anishai...
Seriously, though, this has been a lot of fun, cutscene headaches aside. I wouldn't discount the experience of writing these just because they don't offer a joinable NPC with 6 banters per BioWare NPC, an adaptive multi-path romance 30 talks long, an alternative friendship path that offers "benefits" for a PC of either gender, an NPC-NPC romance, four original quests with sparkling new areas, full voicing, hand-drawn portraits, 250 non-repeating flirts, and 15 different epilogues.
Sometimes, you want a big meal, other times, you want a choice of snacks. And many people would agree that hors d'oevres can be both beautiful and tasty.
Well said.
By the way, Kulyok, do you still need a tester for the male romances? I have finished my last exam (ever) and re-installed BGII, and I am up for it.
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Excellent! Check your private messages.
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Ok, started up a new character... so far I have, ahem, experienced Hendak and Laran (oh my!)
Little bug found, when speeking to Hendak all the new dialog options are doubled. Not show stopping, but irritating :)
Still waiting for Yoshi to make his move, so i'm off to get my Mage Stronghold ;)
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I had no problems with Hendak, everything worked fine. This mod is proving to be quite a lot of fun. :)
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probably just me then heh ???
but I have found another problem, hopefully its just my game again
after teos and my character "reserch spells together" I get a call form a mesenger to go see him. After we talk teleporting animations play, but nothing appears. this has broken the conversation with teos, and I cant speek to him :-\
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Nothing appears? Assassins should spawn, Teos should teleport away, and after the battle he appears and talks to you again. You know, I think I'm starting to suspect something is wrong with your install - double replies... it sounds like a reinstall issue.
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I am happy to tell you that we have a Ribald expansion/sequence here! A Romantic Encounter with Ribald, by Evaine Dian, is fully ready - a lot of material, and a good story.
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I am happy to tell you that we have a Ribald expansion/sequence here! A Romantic Encounter with Ribald, by Evaine Dian, is fully ready - a lot of material, and a good story.
Will the PC get a discount after that? :P
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I am happy to tell you that we have a Ribald expansion/sequence here! A Romantic Encounter with Ribald, by Evaine Dian, is fully ready - a lot of material, and a good story.
Thanks! :) As I wrote in the readme, I'm not sure if it's fully complete, but it's quite long already and we don't want it to be a real mod, do we? :)
Will the PC get a discount after that? :P
If you get far enough, you will be able to ask Ribald what he thinks about discounts.
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hmm ok
I'll try re-installling it, can I continue my game or do I have to start a new one?
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If you install the same mods in the same order it should be possible to use the old savegames.
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un installed it, re-installed it, started a new game, I still get the double reply thing. It's probably another mod doing it...
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Laran (oh my!)
Wait until you see his ToB portion...yum. :D
I am happy to tell you that we have a Ribald expansion/sequence here! A Romantic Encounter with Ribald, by Evaine Dian, is fully ready - a lot of material, and a good story.
This might be beyond the scope of the mod, but would it be possible to change Ribald's in-game appearance from the pudgy merchant to something a little more...appealing?
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This might be beyond the scope of the mod, but would it be possible to change Ribald's in-game appearance from the pudgy merchant to something a little more...appealing?
Pudgy? He's a half-elf. :)
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This might be beyond the scope of the mod, but would it be possible to change Ribald's in-game appearance from the pudgy merchant to something a little more...appealing?
Pudgy? He's a half-elf. :)
*does a quick in-game spawn to check*
I need to start seriously playing BG2 again, I confused him for another NPC... :-[
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Never mind. You're right, most merchants in BG are fat. I wouldn't have touched him, had he looked pudgy, but since he looks all short and slim, it's fine with me.
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...and with that, the seeds are sown for a rogue splinter project:
Romantic Encounters Reloaded--Big Is Beautiful Edition.
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...and with that, the seeds are sown for a rogue splinter project:
Romantic Encounters Reloaded--Big Is Beautiful Edition.
Galoomp? Mira? Anomen's nurse? Klossed (bonus points if you remember him!)? Bernard? :P
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Klossed: Hello, wandering stranger. What are you doing in these woods?
PC: I am afraid I am in dire straits - my mentor has been murdered, and my companion and I have fled. Can you help me?
Klossed: well, I am but a poor hermit, and have been living out in these woods alone for a long, long time...
PC: (flutters eyelids) And you are so big and strong, too...
Imoen: Heya! *whisper* <CHARNAME>, control yourself. You are looking at him like you look at Winthrop, and I know what that means...
PC: *shhhh* Hey, we aren't at home any more. And he's *not* Winthrop, so we could share him, if you like.
Imoen: Well... hmmm. Hafta think .
Klossed: What are you two whispering about? I need to be moving along, there is a scary looking pair of evil guys right up the road, and I am getting hungry.
PC: Well, Mr... Klossed, you said, right? We wouldn't want to be forward, or anything...
Imoen: *giggles, then covers it with a cough* Yeah, not sweet lil' <CHARNAME>, forward or anything. *grins*
Klossed: Forward? Do you ladies want directions, or perhaps advice?
PC: Well (walks over to take Klossed's arm) we poor little helpless ladies might need some help and advice (begins walking her fingers up his arm)
Imoen: (walks over to his other side and lifts his arm over her shoulder) See, most guys are all skin and bone, an' hard in all the wrong places, an' all...
PC: And we being so alone and helpless...
Imoen: ...An' with no place to stay...
PC: ...we thought that a *real* man, a *big* man, might be able to...
Imoen: ... take good care o' us. Real good care, y'know.
Klossed: I don't know. I need to roll against my fortitude save to see if I drop dead of a heart attack at the suggestion, and contact my agent. I am not sure that I am getting paid for this kind of work. You gals got phone numbers?
(The answer is no!)
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Could work as a scam attempt! But, yeah, I'd rather be thought of as shallow and megalomaniacal(wait, I AM shallow and megalomaniacal!), so I don't think I'll be writing something like this. I mean, with that many elves around? Nah.
...and with that, the seeds are sown for a rogue splinter project:
Romantic Encounters Reloaded--Big Is Beautiful Edition.
I KNOW what we are missing! A Sorcerer's Massage!
(Yes, there is only one of Kelsey. But I am sure we could think of something.)
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I KNOW what we are missing! A Sorcerer's Massage!
(Yes, there is only one of Kelsey. But I am sure we could think of something.)
Er... don't want to give it all away, but Weathermistress Ada has the elements of storm at her disposal, including electricity. Don't know if it counts as a massage, but there's definitely a few tamed sparks in use, if that counts.
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Sparks flying, that's for sure. :)
Also, folks, I'd like to remind you that I'll be away, starting this Sunday - back next Friday or Saturday. So, if you would like to join the testing process, it is either today or tomorrow, and if you would like to submit something, the time is today. Or you could wait until the next weekend - we might release a new beta then.
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Well, I'm pleased to slay I passed my last final today :D (well, until next year, at least), and I'm totally up for testing RE, as a female elven mage, romancing Anomen to see what he has to say about them.
I do have one question about the install order of RE, is it okay if I install it last?
I'm really looking forward to Romantic Encounters, I think it shows a lot of promise!
PS, regarding the install order, I already installed:
- BG2ToB Fix pack
- Ascension
- Longer Road
- Redemption
- Turnabout
- Dungeon Be Gone
- Zyraen's Misc
- Unfinished business
- Quest Pack
- Oversight
- Totemic Cernd
- NPC Kit
- Banter Pack
- NPC Flirt
- Solafein
- Valen
- Amber
- Kelsey NPC
- Kelsey-ToB NPC
- Keto
- Kivan NPC
- Xan BG2 NPC
- Virtue
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Coo!
Ahem. Sorry. Just playtested Evaine Dian's latest submission, so I'll be impersonating Gaelan for a short while. Did I mention we have Gaelan Bayle now, too? And both of them are so endearingly funny, and yet strangely in character...
Ahem-2. Okay - I gladly welcome you on board, check your private messages - and as for the installation orders:
- Virtue should always be installed last, so you'll have to uninstall Virtue, install RE, and install Virtue.
And, yes, it is good policy to install RE last, because you'll likely be uninstalling it and then installing new version(if you'd like to check out new components as they come). But Virtue is an exception, so it's RE, then Virtue.
EDIT: Please, note that Flirt Pack should be installed after as many mods as possible, in case someone forgets to attach a WEIGHT to their banter.
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Kulyok, since you will be away for a week, I would llike to amend berelinde and my submissions timetable for a week from Saturday, so they are sitting there when you get back but we havethe time to tweak and rebuild sections. I think it will mean less work for you, and it will certainly give us a chance to "take 10" on our d20 roll... searching out and testing some stuff, but mostly tightening and cleaning up dialogue.
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Uh-huh.
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I'm up for helping test. Just to make sure I've got the idea of testing. You want to know what was thought of encounters, any bug problems,misspellings, things of that sort?
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Im new to posting on these forums and I was just wondering if the whole Noober/Neeber encounter was optional. I mean no offense to the author, but I'd rather not have BOTH of them come up and pester my character for an hour like they do even without the romantic content... :-\
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All components install separately, you can choose which ones you want.
Besides, it's funny and it's an optional encounter even if you have it installed, since Noober isn't out on the streets, but stays in an inn I personally never ever use. I only went there to see him. :)
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Laran's ToB encounter has a bit of a bug if Anomen is in the party because of a bad dialogue file name. Sorry 'bout that.
It works if Anomen isn't in the party.
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I humbly apologise for N/N 'romance' - it really was a teasing joke for a friend ;) You are allowed any and all general catcalls, boos, and cowthrowing in my direction any time! I shall not be offended - I will not install it myself, as the comedy only works once...
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Testing report!
Tested extensively: Lais, the Lonely Dryad, Rebecca the Gypsy, Chanelle. I didn't encounter any problems with those. They were also a lot of fun. I think my favorite so far was the Dryad, if only because it reminded me very much of the Sirens from the Odyssey.
Next on the schedule: Bodhi.
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Well, I think it was Menelanna's suggestion... :D
As I said before, it is your property once I post it, Kulyok - I meant it as a complete joke, to tease/amuse Menelanna, but if you want to adapt it for a BG2 install and remove the 4th-wall breaking stuff, you are welcome to it :) Just make sure there is a warning, so Mene doesn't chase my characters around on our PBP campaigns and beat me mercilessly with her mace...
And where did I suggest this? and one little point, my char. does not use a mace in the PbP, she uses a bow and your guy is currently in front of her. she might....miss. my cleric on the other hand is too kind to do anything to your guy.
back OT, i think this will be a great thing to add to the game!
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Would it be possible for me to read through the dialogues instead of play them? Because I want to experience everything and might tear my hair out trying to drag Charname from NPC to NPC. If not I am still eager to play the beta.
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I'm up for helping test. Just to make sure I've got the idea of testing. You want to know what was thought of encounters, any bug problems,misspellings, things of that sort?
Yep!
Would it be possible for me to read through the dialogues instead of play them? Because I want to experience everything and might tear my hair out trying to drag Charname from NPC to NPC. If not I am still eager to play the beta.
Yes, that's fine, too.
Tested extensively: Lais, the Lonely Dryad, Rebecca the Gypsy, Chanelle. I didn't encounter any problems with those. They were also a lot of fun. I think my favorite so far was the Dryad, if only because it reminded me very much of the Sirens from the Odyssey.
Good to hear. :)
And, yep, I fixed Laran's stuff. Okay, since bugs=bad, and Ribald and Gaelan are too good not to share them, v5 is up and I am sending links to all interested(we are lucky not to have to upload it on Rapidshare, let me tell you this much).
And I had to send a separate copy for berelinde, because she has such a unique username(or, rather, because I can't spell correctly).
By the way, do you know that we now have twenty optional components in RE?
(+21st - Anomoen/Aerie/Jaheira/Viconia reacting to this stuff)
And welcome to PPG, My Anata!
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We are soooo not doing this. (http://gamejag.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=65072)
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We are soooo not doing this. (http://gamejag.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=65072)
ROFL Thanks for the welcome Kulyok. I think Im going to like it here... ;D
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Hmm... What would you people like to see in the HD fling? As I doubt any romance will be released anytime soon (writing actually takes time for those less talented^^') it would probably be nice to give his faithfull fans something to play with in the meanwhile...
And, as I see, Kulyok, I am not the only Diriel lover out there... ;>
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Sure enough, a Haer'Dalis fling would be very nice. :) I was considering to do it myself, if no one stepped forward - but I've seen his dialogue files, and it is rather a task. (Which is why, I presume, both Haer'Dalis quests in Unfinished Business remain, um, unfinished).
As for me, I'd like to see it developing right after the Slayer change - judging by his in-game reactions, Haer'Dalis would be fashinated and repelled at the same time. His lengthy joining dialogue shows that he is aware of PC's heritage from the start, and he's seen what the Blood War is, so he'll likely not be as shocked as the others.
And, as I see, Kulyok, I am not the only Diriel lover out there... ;>
Ooooh, yes! :) Domi was brilliant there.
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We are soooo not doing this. (http://gamejag.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=65072)
Excellent!!! *That* dialog left me chuckling a full 10 minutes!
Back to business! I just went ahead and uninstalled Virtue, it's been causing a couple of problems so far anyways.
Only a few minutes into the game, but already experienced Gaelan (left his bed feeling conned for some reason, which fit with the whole thing), Hendak (but not finished yet, we've only discussed mundane things so far), and Noober (loooved Jaheira's "need to borrow my staff" comment, and Anomen was completely in character).
Bottom line, everything's doing good for now, I only had a BG2 crash when I got out of Château Irenicus, but I'm fairly certain that it has nothing to do with the RE mod (my memory's failing, but I think it's happened before). No bugs, no typos yet. Everything's proceeding smoothly.
So, two thumbs up, people! :D
And thus, I'm off to BG2 again!
EDIT: Oh, I forgot to mention that I have Ribald "in progress" as well, and I just loooved what Anomen and Jaheira had to say about it. Congrats on that one too!
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Good to know - though if anyone else has this crash, I'll want it reported. I'll test the thing myself, when I'm back.
Between this and that, I've written an Edwin fling today for some reason, but I'm not sure it'll be included(it's just I rather wanted to bang him, and "my deva" doesn't sit well with me) - for the time being, it'll just comfortably sit here in my mailbox.
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Between this and that, I've written an Edwin fling today for some reason, but I'm not sure it'll be included(it's just I rather wanted to bang him, and "my deva" doesn't sit well with me) - for the time being, it'll just comfortably sit here in my mailbox.
I'm torn on this one: I love your writing, yet I'm a loyal Gasping Concubine...I'm just as likely to embrace it as to lead the pitchfork and torch-wielding horde of Concubines out for blood. ;D
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Sure enough, a Haer'Dalis fling would be very nice. Smiley I was considering to do it myself, if no one stepped forward - but I've seen his dialogue files, and it is rather a task. (Which is why, I presume, both Haer'Dalis quests in Unfinished Business remain, um, unfinished).
Hm, well, if you would like to write it yourself I surely won't protest! This way I would be able to play&enjoy it. :> As for 'Dalis and his quest in UB - it is rather because the one who was supposed to write it is the same person who was to write HDRomance on G3. She dissapeared from there, she dissapeared from here... probably the challenge was just beyond her strenght... Whatever the reason may be, the UB team should find new people to write it^^'.
As for me, I'd like to see it developing right after the Slayer change - judging by his in-game reactions, Haer'Dalis would be fashinated and repelled at the same time. His lengthy joining dialogue shows that he is aware of PC's heritage from the start, and he's seen what the Blood War is, so he'll likely not be as shocked as the others.
That is the problem with joinable NPCs - the romance (the ending being irrelevant) is more likely to develop with a member of your team, as this kind of experiences usually result in some consequences... Thought they may notably differ. With Yoshimo we have at least a good background for a fling - that, and he dies in the middle of the game. With HD... Hm, imo the 'right place' to add this kind of encounter would be rather the TOB part (perhaps Amkethram? hmm.. that gives me an idea^^...) . Why? He is most obviously fascinated by the events taking place and your place in the Great (bleh. but we all have our opinions as to the plot of TOB) Scheme, his romance with Aerie is most definetely over after Saradush (so, no need to even consider this being a problem), and while you can transform into Slayer, you have your soul back. Which is rather an adventage, imo. :) And, of course, there is little time left for the eventual repercussions to take place. So, less work for the writer;p.
Yes... I know^^'.
The question is - would you like me to write a one-stand for TOB? And asking *what* you would like to see in it I mean.. well, just that. You said that with Elhan it is mostly friends-talk, with Sendai - a dream (a dream sequence could be done in SOA, I guess... But I don't like borrowing ideas in such a way), with Saemon - well, I have an idea... So - how far would you like to go with HD? And in what manner? I can think of few ways to write it... ^^'...
Excellent!!! *That* dialog left me chuckling a full 10 minutes!
Well, maybe not 10 minutes, but I agree it was v. amusing. :)
Ooooh, yes! Domi was brilliant there.
Yes, yes, yes! The talk with the snow is imo the best one in whole mod.. And the best flirt in the mod^^'
But, I guess I should go sleep as I see I am writing like a... well. Just goodnight;).
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Okay, I've tested Bodhi now. And seriously, wow. Without giving anything away, I wanna say that all you goody-two-shoes male protagonists out there have a reason to reconsider your Chapter 3 plans. Hopefully that doesn't sound too cheesy. :D
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A good reason to bring along a Staff of Restoration along with... erm... ok, gotta stop thinking this way...
it was a little rough for me, but then again I really am an over-the-top goodie two-shoes :)
I like the Dryad. Miloch will be pleased. Not too much, and just enough to get the old brain neurons thouroughly speculating, I think. I would have gone way too far, and changed the thing from RE to PE.
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His romance with Aerie is most definetely over after Saradush (so, no need to even consider this being a problem)
I don't think his little fling with Aerie would be a problem anyway. I might be mistaken, but I always thought that his romance with her would only trigger if the protagonist was also interested in her. Meaning the PC would have to be a male character and unless Haer Dalis is bisexual, he would be unable to have an RE with Charname whether in TOB or not.
Besides, I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly wouldn't want to have to wait until TOB to bed that delicious bard. ;)
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I don't think his little fling with Aerie would be a problem anyway. I might be mistaken, but I always thought that his romance with her would only trigger if the protagonist was also interested in her. Meaning the PC would have to be a male character and unless Haer Dalis is bisexual, he would be unable to have an RE with Charname whether in TOB or not.
Um, you are wrong, actually. They romance starts regardless to pc gender, through only if you are male and try to romance her you see the full content of the romance. Originally it were different, though. This couple gave you simetry in romance conflicts -- if male and romancing Aerie, you had a conflict with HD, if female and romancing HD you had a conflict with Aerie... But that's not important^^'.The thing is I don't see HD being with one girl and sleeping with other. While he is easy going I always thought him monogamic.
Besides, I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly wouldn't want to have to wait until TOB to bed that delicious bard.
Hm, you can always play only the TOB part? Or use an old save from TOB? I often do so when want to see only the TOB content of some romance mod -- usually Xan or Kivan ;).
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Well, the Weathermistress Ada encounter is written, and mostly works. Still having a bit of trouble with the cutscenes, but I think I might hav figured out the problem.
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berelinde, you forgot our Ainchen; she is as finished as she is going to be, I tink - both of us have been over her coding and dialogue several times. So , Ada and Ainchen ready for packaging/submission by the end of today. Just Renal and Sheri to go.
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We are soooo not doing this. (http://gamejag.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=65072)
Priceless.
Thanks for the link, it was worth quite a few laughs.
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Im glad to hear that actually. For some reason I enjoy it immensely when NPCs fall for each other (I always try to squeeze Korgan and Mazzy into my party somehow ;D) simply because I don't see why the PC should be the only one to get some lovin'. Now I don't have to play a male character to see the romance between Aerie and Haer Dalis, although to get back OT, I don't plan to share him if a 'Dalis encounter gets added... ;)
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Excellent!!! *That* dialog left me chuckling a full 10 minutes!
Well, maybe not 10 minutes, but I agree it was v. amusing. :)
Oh come now! 'Twas but a figure of speech!
Anyways, back to my little progrees report. I've now experienced Gaelan, Hendak, Noober, Ribald, Laran, Yoshimo and Teos. That makes seven. Phew! :D
I really, really like Laran, I thought he was rather touching, and am looking forward to the ToB portion of that encounter. That, and he made me want to fan myself (although it's been rather unseasonably cool where I am).
The Yoshimo encounter, now... Made me crave for more. I loved the rogue's touch with the door (without revealing anything). Yoshimo's always been a very complex character, a tragic figure of sorts, to me, a man torn between the Geas and his sense of honor. At least that's how I view him. And the encounter somehow manages to convey all that. But that's just my view.
I guess I only have one criticism, and it's the syntax/grammar in the final dialog with Yoshimo, who says "are you, by chance, awaiting...". One of the answers available is "why, I do." and it's my belief that it should be "why, I am" (as in "why yes, I am awaiting, etc"), but I could be wrong.
Anyways, I love RE so far, and I think that everyone's done a wonderful job. I recognized Berelinde writing in Laran, I discovered Evaine Dian's with Ribald and Jastey's with Hendak, and there's Kulyok's familiar style in Yoshi and Teos (well, it would be to you too if you spent hours translating her Xan Npc! :D ). Kudos to you all!
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Hi there,
I would love to beta test if the offer still stands. :)
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Sent you a link. (It's not me, I'm not here, I just found a village e-cafe to find out whether certain museums work tomorrow :) )
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I'm planning on running two BG II games at the same time, sort of following the idea of arabellaesque's Reclaiming, in order to see more interaction from NPC's I never use. Since one of the PC's would be Coran I think this would be an awesome mod for it, just to, you know, keep 'im in character ;). I'd love to help test it out, if you need more people.
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Thanks Kulyok ;D
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Heya, there is any chance or possibility of translating it now? You know, it would be far better to have it earlier and (most important) end translation earlier. This project is very hm.. popular, and I think it should have some translations. I can try with polish translation (I think Alatariel will also help me.. true, my queen? ;P).
Maybe not everything at once, but only hm.. Bodhi encounter? I would be very glad to see this intriguing project... and translate it into polish :P
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Kulyok's on vacation, due back Saturday, and no guarantees she'll see you post before then. That's the deadline for new entries, too, if you're curious.
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Well! I am back, and to my surprise, no new submissions in my e-mail. A pity, that.
@MrsCake: Check your private messages.
There will be a "traified" version eventually, of course, but not in version 1.
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I'm working, oh taskmistress... I may not have a tested version, but I am down to the last scene rebuild on Sheri (been stuck on it for a few days, but i think I am able to complete it now).- please feel free to check the wikki!
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Sure, take your time - it's just I was under the impression something(or a lot of somethings) was ready, so I was surprised it was not. I'd rather not check the dev wiki - the text wouldn't show properly in the window, being unformatted or whatnot; I prefer to check it when it's done and ready and in my RE folder.
(And, please, don't call me that - Kulyok is fine. :) )
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But maybe we could make something like a preview for international players. I don't need TRA to translate - strings can be edited in .d files without any troubles.. Of course with your permission, blessing and access to demo :pirate
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This hasn't been done before with other mods, and we won't be doing that, either - not only does the mod have to be polished in English first, but it is much more convenient to work with a non-traified version. Thank you for your interest, but it will have to wait.
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Due to unending RL stuff, I think Guildmistress Busya will be a V2 addition (if such things can happen...)
Both work and family/summertime add up to a v. busy me, and I'm way behind on both the fanfic, the attempt at Busya and just about everything else. Woe.
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Okay, thank you for telling me - and best of luck with all this stuff. I'll tweak the main post a little, then.
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Update: Not much to update. In my old save game, I was going to try the Solaufein encounter from the male side, but I accidentally missed the new dialogue option. Since it will take me a little while to reach that point again with a new game (even if I cheat, which I will - there's a minimum number of things you *must* do and CTRL-Y only cuts out so much time), I will take a look at the Sendai component in the meantime.
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Weathermistress Ada is done and tested, works fine. I could have sent it along already, but I was holding off until I have Renal done too, which should be today.
Renal will be tested, but it's going to have to have the areas added, of course.
Can I get it to you by tomorrow morning (your time, midnight my time) and still make the v1 deadline?
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If we take my words "the end of June seems like a good idea" for a deadline, I think we've pretty much made it - after all, a few days here and there shouldn't matter, given that we've created so much by the end of June already.
(Meaning, if you would like some more time, please, help yourself to it. And, again, I'm no good when it comes to evil tp2 coding, but if you need any assistance with cutscenes/areas/scripts, please, send the code).
And, alas, with CamDawg's absence(and possible non-acceptance, since I haven't heard back from him yet), the deadline seems to be... er, dead? (Stalled? On hold? Currently in progress? :) )
I'm hoping for the following:
- what we have now, plus berelinde's and cmorgan's great submissions, plus my Edwin+Haer'Dalis overtures, perhaps;
- creating a new beta, some more testing;
- if magrat comes up with Busya, or anyone else would like to make a submission, again, they are very welcome to step forward with it;
- wrapping up v1;
- the last check that everything's in, all contributors have checked their submissions/readme, no visible bugs;
- hosting, release, website/forum/download link/announcements.
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I've had no problems with the ones I've tested so far (with a female PC).
Gealan: made me laugh. I can so see that
Laran : I loved this one can't wait to get to the TOB part
Hendak: was very sweet.
Noober: Too funny. Loved the comments from other party members.
Chanelle: Very good.
Ribald: Liking what I've seen so far but not through with it yet.
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A big thank you to all the dedicated testers(and, yes, I've changed that Yoshimo 'Why, yes' reply). Any typos or glitches, please, let us know(spoiler content via PM, please).
Edwin and Haer'Dalis are there; I've received Sheri and Anishai from cmorgan - they are fully written, but I'll be spending some time to integrate them(and I'm listening to The Great Snape Debate at the moment, you know, so... :) ).
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Gaelan was pretty funny. I loved Hendak, Coran, Ribald, Teos and Saemon. Yoshimo was great, too, but is he going to make a comment when he is revealed as a traitor? Noober was funny but kind of got on my nerves. Laran was totally awesome. I would have like to see more happen with Solaufein and definately Aran. I love this idea and think you all are doing a fantastic job. It adds a lot spice to an already awesome game.
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Yoshimo was great, too, but is he going to make a comment when he is revealed as a traitor?
He did say "I won't remind you". The fact that he does betray the party and has been working for Irenicus the entire time overshadows it - and in the existing dialogue PC has enough opportunities to sound hurt and betrayed, thanks to Bioware developers. Of course, I could add a reply "How could you, Yoshimo! After we had such good sex together, too!" :) , but I didn't think it was worth it.
I hope jastey reads your comments about Solaufein - if she wants to expand it beyond that encounter, that is. However, from what I remember of drow lore, sex in itself is rather an insignificant thing to them - a blow to the pride might sting deeper, but the fact that PC was sent to end Sola's life and does it(or not) is ultimately more important.
With Aran, yes, basically, what he says when you hint about "private atmosphere" is true(in this encounter, at least). But you have a dinner, and later on you could remind Aran about it, and he'll immediately send his assassins with you to fight Bodhi, which helps.
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and I'm listening to The Great Snape Debate at the moment, you know, so...
The debate becomes redundant in less than a month, you know :) (21 days and counting...I lucked out this time, so the final Potter book will be my ultimate birthday present) ;D
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Yes, true enough. I think I'll send someone else to the shop and turn off the Net on that day, just so I won't hear gleeful: "Hey! After all, he was #$%^!"
I'm glad to say I've integrated Anishai, and I hope to integrate Ada and Sheri today - Ada, I know, is fully functional already. After that, there's Renal, and then Beta6 - a semi-final one before release(as I said, new components are always welcome; we could even make your submissions anonymous, come to think of it).
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Ada done, and Sheri is next.
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I know I'm incredibly late, but if you need another tester, now or sometime in the future, I'd like to volunteer.
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Great - I've sent you a PM.
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I would have like to see more happen with Solaufein (...)
I am open to suggestions. What would you like to see?
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Very sorry for posting this here instead of PMing it, but I seem to be experiencing some problems with that at the moment. :P
Just something I spotted as I was reading through some of the files: in Saemon's part, should "Raise and lower your glass, but never settle it down" be "never set it down"?
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I would have like to see more happen with Solaufein (...)
I am open to suggestions. What would you like to see?
I'm thinking that if you made the comment to him that you were sorry about him being punished by the handmaidens and he saw that you were different from other drow women, that he might actually enjoy it a little more. He's used to being "used" by the women of his race and he should have a little enjoyment himself. I don't know, maybe I am just used to the NPC Solaufein and him being so sensitive and romantic and that's my problem. I just love Solaufein so therefore, I would have liked it to be something more. ;)
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Just something I spotted as I was reading through some of the files: in Saemon's part, should "Raise and lower your glass, but never settle it down" be "never set it down"?
It's a pun. :) But, yes, PM is better.
I liked how jastey's Sola encounter was about control - indeed, she asks Phaere in the first place, and they discuss Sola's services much as slave's - drow society really shines here. Phaere-Sola story was romantic enough to me, though I don't know which of them turned out more evil in the end - Sola, with his "painful death for Despana bitch", or Phaere with her endless spite.
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I figured. :P
Don't worry, though - found out what the problem was (or rather, what I was doing wrong) so everything else will be by PM.
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I liked how jastey's Sola encounter was about control - indeed, she asks Phaere in the first place, and they discuss Sola's services much as slave's - drow society really shines here. Phaere-Sola story was romantic enough to me, though I don't know which of them turned out more evil in the end - Sola, with his "painful death for Despana bitch", or Phaere with her endless spite.
That is true. And I suppose I would be a little upset if my ex sent me to the lust chambers to please some stranger.
Another question though....any chances of some flirting with Jarlaxle?
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Jarlaxle? Not impossible; I'll have a look at how it might work. There's this small matter of Salvatore's books, but I've read one of them and he wasn't totally repulsive/a short fling won't really contradict canon info much, so, yes, it's a possibility, thanks.
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Now Laran has a voice! I would like to thank Sir Kalthorine and berelinde for the excellent voice samples and the idea.
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Jarlaxle? Not impossible; I'll have a look at how it might work. There's this small matter of Salvatore's books, but I've read one of them and he wasn't totally repulsive/a short fling won't really contradict canon info much, so, yes, it's a possibility, thanks.
I do remember seeing cover art of him on one of Salvatore's books (not entirely sure on the title, but I think it was Servant of the Shard or something to that end). Not as drool-inspiring as the myriad Drizzt covers, but definitely not totally repulsive...plus the idea of a bald Drow rogue is intriguing in itself.
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Jarlaxle? Not impossible; I'll have a look at how it might work. There's this small matter of Salvatore's books, but I've read one of them and he wasn't totally repulsive/a short fling won't really contradict canon info much, so, yes, it's a possibility, thanks.
Actually Jarlaxle turns out to be pretty cool in Salvatore's series "The Sellswords".
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plus the idea of a bald Drow rogue is intriguing in itself.
I totally agree with you :)
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I've received Renal(to be incorporated very soon, hopefully), and did some coding on Sheri(which now awaits cmorgan's approval/confirmation). I'll see what I can do with Jarlaxle - tell me if you have ideas/desires. After all, it is (mostly) about desire, isn't it? :)
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Renal is probably the most breathtakingly erotic encounter in the entire mod. Only now do I understand what I've gotten myself into. ;D But it's all good.
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Renal is probably the most breathtakingly erotic encounter in the entire mod. Only now do I understand what I've gotten myself into. ;D But it's all good.
Umm....can't wait to test him out ;)
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I'll see what I can do with Jarlaxle - tell me if you have ideas/desires. After all, it is (mostly) about desire, isn't it? :)
I'll have to think on this one. Jarlaxle is playful with his lovers in kind of a competitive way.
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Umm....can't wait to test him out ;)
I've just been taking a quick testing peek, and he whirled his hips at me, I swear!
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Updated the first post. I might do a Jarlaxle quickly, and a few tests, and then it is time for the semi-final beta.
If you have something in progress, and/or close to completion for RE mod, please, tell me so! Other than that, I think the list of components for version 1 is complete.
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Okaaay, I've taken a good look at Jarlaxle, and while there's a lot of potential in the character - and, indeed, it's the most interesting "what-might-have-been", the existing cameo is just too short, and there's just no valid reason to me. And to make it out of the blue - it's just that, out of the blue. True, some RE encounters are more random than others, but there's at least some more or less obvious motivation. That's not to say it cannot work - it can, but it's a challenge.
If you(a general 'you') can maintain Jarlaxle's BG2 personality, please, go ahead. You are welcome to have his dialogue files and my beginnings, too, if you like.
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I couldn't sleep last night and had an idea I'm now writing on (not for Jarlaxle, but someone else). I'll try to finish it as soon as possible, if it turns out alright.
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Coo!
( Good news. :) )
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If you(a general 'you') can maintain Jarlaxle's BG2 personality, please, go ahead. You are welcome to have his dialogue files and my beginnings, too, if you like.
I definitely lack the talent for this sort of thing. I leave that to you pros, while I try to help out in other ways (like proof reading and testing). But thank you for taking the time to look into it. :)
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Aaaaand - it's Beta6 time, with Ada, Anishai, Cambion(don't get your hopes up here), Edwin, Haer'Dalis, Renal and Sheri. And other good things, such as Laran's surperb new voice.
Please, if you'd like to help us playtest, or to read the dialogues, or you think I should've sent you the link, but I've missed you out, somehow(in which case I apologize in advance) - post here, and I'll PM you.
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Aaaaand - it's Beta6 time, with Ada, Anishai, Cambion(don't get your hopes up here), Edwin, Haer'Dalis, Renal and Sheri. And other good things, such as Laran's surperb new voice.
Please, if you'd like to help us playtest, or to read the dialogues, or you think I should've sent you the link, but I've missed you out, somehow(in which case I apologize in advance) - post here, and I'll PM you.
I would love to ;)
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You should have received the message - remember, you asked once? Check your PM box, please, it should be there.
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You should have received the message - remember, you asked once? Check your PM box, please, it should be there.
I got it. Thank you ;D
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Aaaaand - it's Beta6 time, with Ada, Anishai, Cambion(don't get your hopes up here), Edwin, Haer'Dalis, Renal and Sheri. And other good things, such as Laran's surperb new voice.
Please, if you'd like to help us playtest, or to read the dialogues, or you think I should've sent you the link, but I've missed you out, somehow(in which case I apologize in advance) - post here, and I'll PM you.
I currently how no access to my copy of BG2, but I can at least read through the dialouge files for you.
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...oh my.
:o *needs a cold drink*
cmorgan, you did it again!
Also, is Sheri for male or female PCs? The readme says female, but some of the dialog seems male-oriented. *slightly confused*
...I'd volunteer to help with voicing, but my voice is definitely too low-range for Chanelle, and likely too low for Sheri. (hates being an alto)
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...I'd volunteer to help with voicing, but my voice is definitely too low-range for Chanelle, and likely too low for Sheri. (hates being an alto)
Yeah, and I'm a contralto, and not a damn thing I can do about it. Oh, well.
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Sheri is for a male PC, although she will sing for a female PC, or at least she did in the unproofread initial submission.
Don't mean to jump in and steal cm's thunder, but I believe he's doing the holiday thing today.
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Sendai reminds me (unsurprisingly :P ) of my favorite film trilogy; specifically, the line where after wire-fu-ing their way across the tables in his restaurant, Seraph quips to Neo "You do not truly know someone until you fight them." Of course, there's quite a different verb involved in the Sendai encounter, but the same general idea.
I've actually been waiting to see Ada and Anishai for a while. 8)
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@Star Dragonmaiden: PM sent, welcome to the fold!
Yes, sorry, that's my fault for making a typo in the readme: cmorgan's Sheri the Bardess is for males only, though females and other NPCs can listen to her and make comments. Yoshimo in particular seems smitten.
And big thanks to Cygnea for some fast typo reports(and, of course, here's hoping we'll get more from all sources, and not typos alone). Any technical problems that might arise with any components - please, do not hesitate to report them, as well. And content feedback - via PM or e-mail to me or the component's author, please, as not to spoil the good folk of the audience.
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Oh! Just saw Western Paladin's post. Sendai from the Matrix - somehow, that's an interesting thought... :)
By the way, any glitches, any places where no replies worked for you(in any components), any typos, anything?
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Sheri's hot (now I know what you needed this portait for!) and has a nice repertoire of songs and other activities. I like Viconia's reactions!
Anishai made me giggle quite a bit. :)
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RE: Sheri (double meaning, there) Can someone please test being mean in encounter 1 and "reforming" in encounter 2?
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Sheri has bawdy songs for everyone, and the same between encounters - successive and different party combinations should bring forth different party reactions. Something for everyone, I hope - Like Laran talking to a male Paladin (that's where I got the idea - berelinde had a great idea there, so that an NPC has something for everyone.
The track I would love someone test is for Male PCs, as she is aimed directly at the male libido. If there are remnants of her alternate track still left in dialoge, please PM me and let me clean that up -
Thanks for the kind words... I had two good dialogue/code editors :)
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I tested Sheri with a male PC only. Though she is not aimed at me, I still enjoyed her. :)
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I take that as an extremely high compliment. Thank you!
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Just so we don't misunderstand each other: I said she was not aimed at me because of your phrase "aimed directly at the male libido". I didn't mean it in the "yeah, well written, but I don't quite know what to do with it" way. I'm not a guy, so I can't say how a man would think about this encounter, if that is what you were asking for, but I enjoyed it anway. Personally, when it comes to content written specifically either for men or for women, I enjoy both equally. Even (or especially?) the stereotypical, scantily clad babe. :)
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Oh! Just saw Western Paladin's post. Sendai from the Matrix - somehow, that's an interesting thought... :)
By the way, any glitches, any places where no replies worked for you(in any components), any typos, anything?
I didn't notice any technical problems. I thought Anishai's encounter starting with a female PC was a mistake, but then I read the documentation.
Typos? The ones I noticed (and which took me an oddly long time to find in Sheri's dialogue file) . . . have now been reported, so I removed them from this post. They probably shouldn't have been here anyway.
(Speaking of Sheri, that encounter is totally hot. The folk songs were awesome.)
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Not finished going through the files, yet (on Ribald right now), but I like it so far. ;D Laran and Hendak are very sweet. I'll PM a report to you when I'm done going through the files, Kulyok.
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Oi! What happened to our database?
(Thank you very much for typo reports, all noted - but please, since it is spoiler content, PM is better).
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I wonder if it would be possible for Kulyok to add to the very first post which encounters are meant for females and which ones are for males? :-\ I know what most of them are already, but some have encounters for both genders and I can't tell whether some of the more obscure ones are male or female. Hopefully Im not the only one out there who needs to see this. :-[
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Oi! What happened to our database?
(Thank you very much for typo reports, all noted - but please, since it is spoiler content, PM is better).
Oops. Sorry about that. Did you note the ones I posted? I removed them from my post.
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Yes, I did, thank you!
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I don't know if it's a progress report or what, but here is what I've just done:
- cmorgan+Evaine Dian's changes for Sheri;
- Anomen's reaction to Gaelan, courtesy of berelinde.
(And there's talk about some voice samples, too).
Also, an advert for two useful links(there was 'gods' and 'puerile' in one of Sheri's lines, which is why I thought I'd share; this is what I use when in doubt): http://www.thefreedictionary.com and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalization
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Who is/might be getting voiced?
Can't wait to see what Anomen has to say. :)
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Just so we don't misunderstand each other: I said she was not aimed at me because of your phrase "aimed directly at the male libido".
I'm saying "thank you" because I think that while you can write specific "hooks" for male and female players, a really good romance has something for everyone. A really great one lets you play whichever role you want in your head, and still come out happy. If you liked it, I am asuming it was at least good!
The best ones, I think, go one step farther, and allow folks the freedom to be whatever they want, but I just can't do justice to the physical side of same-sex relationships. People are people when it comes to romance, but when the bedchamber appears, it is much more difficult to write anything convincing.
Glad you folks think she's hot!
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The best ones, I think, go one step farther, and allow folks the freedom to be whatever they want, but I just can't do justice to the physical side of same-sex relationships.
I'd argue that making the character hop into bed with both sexes isn't quite the freedom to be whatever the character wants to be, or even what a player(depending on the player) wants this character to be. And even if the character does hop into bed with the same sex, it might be just because there're no good enough specimen of the opposite sex are available(but I probably shouldn't speak of RL examples here).
Just to say that the stance "both sexes -> more freedom" isn't universally supported among RE writers. :)
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Just to say that the stance "both sexes -> more freedom" isn't universally supported among RE writers. :)
Nor is it universally rejected. ;)
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I admit that I don't understand this stance, when it comes out of the blue and adds nothing to character development, especially if the author adds that they introduced this just so homosexual players could be happy. When it adds something to the character - Viconia's baiting of Valygar, for one - it's good. When it's there just to be there, or so it looks to me - Iylos, or RE/Weimer's Solaufein - I am not sure I understand it.
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No worries - room for everyone's opinion! Perhaps it is easier to just say my stance could be intellectually interpreted as "player choice trumps ingame consisitency of characterization" for established NPCs, and "I selfishly want every player regardless of gender association to enjoy and have equal content" for a new NPC I introduce.
As for existing components, Sheri is male PC only for romance, but everyone gets songs and some added content talking to her, Ainshen is open to male and female PCs, though she only has the sex variable set if you read her with a specific mindset and a Male PC (some differences in content but slight), Renal is female PC only, Chanelle is the only "balanced" encounter allowing both male and female PCs to have almost all content (some action sequences are split by gender, but each one is a mirror adjusted for the... erm... possible), with one line added for male PCs later on in the Fighter Stronghold. So I talk a good game, but have yet to truly be balanced - no male with male stuff has passed muster for me (or ever will. I just can't write well enough, and am headed back into the mainstream to write banters and code!).
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I will be away over the weekend. Hopefully, RE won't be released yet when I come back. A nearly complete submission is waiting to get finished before the first release. :)
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Okay, thanks for letting me know.
Two things for this weekend and Monday:
- if you're testing stuff, your PM reports are welcome, expected and so on;
- if you're writing stuff, and you think it might be completed soon enough - and could fit for RE v1, please post here.
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Oh, and audio samples - yes, it's Domi's voice for Sheri and Chanelle, very lovely, too; a very pleasant surprise for me. I've just listened to them, and will be checking them in the game soonish.
UPDATE: Tested them ingame, and the noise doesn't really present there(perhaps because of tavern music). Chanelle's volume might need adjustment, though. I do like the girls so much better now. :)
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I have to say that the encounter with Renal Bloodscalp was awesome..........wow
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His place or yours, please? (or did you try both?)
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*chuckle* I just imagined PC asking Renal "Your place or mine?"
(By the way, do real people actually say this phrase?)
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His place or yours, please? (or did you try both?)
Both. I actually had to go thru it a few times to see what all the options were. Like I said, wow. You made Renal really hot.
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*chuckle* I just imagined PC asking Renal "Your place or mine?"
(By the way, do real people actually say this phrase?)
Sort of, but it's usually phrased "Shall we go somewhere for a nightcap?"
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[offtopic] I dunno - I just used it on my wife, and she looked at me funny and socked me with a rolled up newspaper - and I sure am not going to use it on the dogs. They already own the place :D [/offtopic]
The reason I ask is because of playtesting - we want to be sure that both alternate paths get pushed around, to see if anything shakes out funny.
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I just realized something alarming. Sheri's coordinates are very close to those used by Vilkacis with his Rupert the Dye Merchant mod. Maybe you could put her up by the piano? Coordinates [405.740] face 7?
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(By the way, do real people actually say this phrase?)
Ja.
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The reason I ask is because of playtesting - we want to be sure that both alternate paths get pushed around, to see if anything shakes out funny.
Like I said, I went thru it boths ways a few times and no problems at all. Pretty cool hunting ;)
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I've started work on an encounter with what has always been one of my favourite BG2 characters, and while I think it's turning out quite well, I was wondering whether anyone else had any comments. Do the rest of you see this character as one with romantic potential? Any thoughts would be appreciated!
IF ~Global("spoken","LOCALS",0)~ THEN BEGIN a1
SAY #71148 // Oh no! We've been discovered, my Bhaalspawn friends! Fight! Fiiighhht!!
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Your death will be a slow one, mark my words. I will prolong the agony, torturing you to within an inch of your life. By the time I am done, you will be begging me to kill you.~ GOTO a2
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I am going to kill you and dine upon your remains. I have always enjoyed feasting on the blood of my enemies, and over the course of my travels I have acquired many herbs with which I might garner your charred carcass.~ GOTO a2
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~My blade will slice you into a thousand pieces before you even realise it is drawn. Be grateful that I am in a generous mood today, for any other time your death would come much less swiftly.~ GOTO a2
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Many have crossed my path, and many have fallen. You will be no exception. My path runs red with blood, and cities have crumbled in my wake. Prepare to meet your maker, pathetic creature, for you will be no exception.~ GOTO a2
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~My, you are a handsome Chinchilla, aren't you?~ GOTO a3
END
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Oh dear... Thumbs up. :)
I've just received a bug report where Laran and Renal basically meet in the same room with CHARNAME(thanks, Catseye! will fix it soonish). Now, if we add Chinchilla to the mix... just imagine the possibilities!
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I just realized something alarming. Sheri's coordinates are very close to those used by Vilkacis with his Rupert the Dye Merchant mod. Maybe you could put her up by the piano? Coordinates [405.740] face 7?
I don't think Rupert the Dye Merchant should become the greatest of our worries(anyway, who had this brilliant idea to put a lower-class merchant into the posh noble inn), but, sure enough, I'll check this.
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Okay, fixed both.
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I've just received a bug report where Laran and Renal basically meet in the same room with CHARNAME(thanks, Catseye! will fix it soonish).
I was wondering that could happen, since Laran leaves the room after the dialogue, and then I realized that while Laran might leave the room, Renal doesn't! So, if somebody did Renal before Laran, yeah, Renal would still be there. Oops!
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Yep, I added ActionOverride - DestroySelf. It must've looked really cute, Renal waiting for an encore. :)
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It must've looked really cute, Renal waiting for an encore. :)
Yeah it was pretty surprising. But kind of a nice surprise since I enjoyed Renal so much the first time :)
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Fixed one more Renal glitch(thank you, magrat!). As well, I've(hopefully) fixed ToB stuff, so that everything installs without a glitch on SoA-only install.
However, now I need help. In ToB install, Saemon's and Bodhi's(for example) "returning" cutscenes work fine and dandy. However, in SoA install they get stuck - only PC returns; Saemon/Bodhi do not follow the PC. Bad.
I think I'll be posting the problem at G3 soonish, if I don't find the solution. In the meanwhile, those of you who do have access to the beta and know .baf coding, please, have a look. I think MoveBetweenAreas command as I coded it might be at fault - well, obviously.
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[regarding the hanging cutscene]I think MoveBetweenAreas command as I coded it might be at fault - well, obviously.
Maybe, maybe not. Does Laran hang under similar circumstances? I used MoveBetweenAreas, too. In vanilla SoA, one of the cutscenes involving Malaaq uses that action, so I'm not so sure that is the culprit.
If you aren't finding anything, I sure as heck won't, but I'll have a peek anyway, FWIW.
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Thanks! And, yeah, first thing I did was an Infinity Explorer/iesdp search and that damned Malaaq cutscene, but, well.
Laran in SoA only - he doesn't hang, because he disappears, in my game, at least.
BUT! My SoA install is wonky(because I test in strange ways, and whatnot), so a try on a normal SoA game, normal SoA install, is really appreciated, too.
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Oooh! Ooh! I think I see what it is! I had the same problem with the cutscene in Ada where she dismisses the rest of the party. I think the RestorePartyLocations() is interrupting the MoveBetweenAreas(). Maybe sticking a Wait(2) between the two would help?
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It worked! berelinde, this was some great quick thinking. :)
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Yay!
But like I said, I had the same trouble with Ada. Sometimes, it would go smoothly, other times it would hang. Adding the Wait() made sure the actions were completed before moving the PC.
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True. I am really thankful you've provided this - it was so brilliantly simple that I'd probably have been searching for it for days.
Another glitch solved, courtesy of magrat: Yoshimo's rest talks are now spaced a little(timer=100 seconds), so that they do not trigger one after another on the same rest.
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Ooh. How did I miss this? Do you still need testers or... hm, are there any plans for Lord Logan Coprith?
(Edit: Spelling Coprith, damnit.)
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Ajnos, I owe you for an early testing blowup of your game during initial v12 BG1NPC - if you have an idea for Coprith, and throw some storyline togther, I can spend a few hours this Thursday wrapping up a quick encounter, if you want. I owe you a good bit in way of apology...
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Ajnos, I owe you for an early testing blowup of your game during initial v12 BG1NPC - if you have an idea for Coprith, and throw some storyline togther, I can spend a few hours this Thursday wrapping up a quick encounter, if you want. I owe you a good bit in way of apology...
Nonono, things happen. It certainly wasn't your fault at all. I should have asked better questions and if only I could remember what they were I certainly would have learned something I'm sure. :)
I was just asking, because I've always liked him. I had thought I might perhaps write something (but was asking gently lest my delicate feelings be too hurt when Kulyok tells me "Gods, NO!") Though of course, if someone else was going to.. I'd rather play it than write it, natch.
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If you're looking for a vote of confidence on your ability to write a stunning Lord Coprith interaction, you've got it from me!
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'd really love to see it. I'd even help code it. I don't know how close the deadline is, but that shouldn't discourage you from giving it a shot, as I'm almost certain there will be a version 2 at some point.
As for logistics, Cmorgan and I worked on a Wiki to allow us both to comment on each other's material without sending a lot of half-finished files back and forth. Doing so might have resulted in confusion over which version we were using. The same approach could be used to code your entry.
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So there you go, Ajnos - you have two coders (and berelinde works wonders with dialogue too) to assist, and Kulyok to fix both our errors and recheck our work, as well as integrate it into the project. All you need to do is write either a short story or better yet a quick screenplay, and we can tear into it in a hurry - perhaps even make it in time for a v1 release!
Please write; we'll work on reshaping it, if you want some mystery we can extend it a little, and Kulyok will edit and integrate... it will go quickly!
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I registered over here finally because I've been lurking on this really cool mod! I can't wait and hope it is released soon. I check here so many times a day that my husband thinks I am totally nuts. :)
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Ooh. How did I miss this? Do you still need testers or... hm, are there any plans for Lord Logan Coprith?
Myahahahaha, I thought you'd not be able to withstand the temptation!
(Um. But I did; I wondered about six or seven times in total: "Where is Ajnos? Would Ajnos join us? Strange that Ajnos never posted here. Hmm... maybe we suck?")
Okay, first things first: I think I've deleted Beta6 and I haven't yet uploaded Beta7 - I'm waiting for the get-go from Evaine Dian(and nervously biting my nails in case Jason finally decides that testing "Romantic Encounters: Sleeping your way through Faerun!" isn't what PPG was designed for). Once I get home, or she gives me her encounter - whichever comes first - I'll PM you with the link.
As for Lord Logan - gods, yes! :) Of course, please, do it.
I hope you guys and ladies(cmorgan and berelinde) will forgive me for wanting the things done quickly(and wanting more work :) ), so: Ajnos, please, send your Lord Logan text straight to me when you're done; I'll code it for you, too, if you do not code.
And welcome, Ankhesenpaaten. :)
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(and nervously biting my nails in case Jason finally decides that testing "Romantic Encounters: Sleeping your way through Faerun!" isn't what PPG was designed for)
Nonsense.
"Say, Jason, what's behind that forum traffic spike?"
"Looks like a lot of people are happy about Hendak getting that handjob he's always wanted."
"Figures."
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{Do you know that I've just been using your post as another context advert? When a thread has "Last post by: jcompton", it kind of draws users.}
On a more serious note: thanks, it really helps a lot. :)
Progress:
- some changes in coding in Sheri(and an e-mail to cmorgan);
- got a long testing report("all is well" is a result, too!) from Eleima; sent all relevant stuff to the team members(Evaine Dian - you got the Ribald feedback from Eleima, right?);
- still waiting for Ajnos' decision about Lord Logan;
(ah, magrat's Guildmistress Busya and Ajnos' Lord Logan... what else can one wish for?)
It's interesting we never got a "barmaid/prostitute" fling, per se, isn't it? Like the one Chev posted (http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php/topic,24058.msg301027.html#msg301027) in the very beginning? I remember I wanted to do something for these girls, but then I just couldn't bring myself to do it - maybe I didn't feel interesting enough. There's some content for PC/NPCs in the unmodded game, anyway.
Also, the_bigg, have you changed your mind about writing a very mysterious encounter? I remember, you've mentioned something in the thread earlier. If you need a beta-reader, give me a shout.
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- still waiting for Ajnos' decision about Lord Logan
Oh. Well, I need to go to Trademeet again, then think about it some more, then I guess start writing... so yeah, I'm in.
(Um. I do not code. I can organize in a coderly fashion, but it is not, you know, coding.)
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- got a long testing report("all is well" is a result, too!) from Eleima; sent all relevant stuff to the team members(Evaine Dian - you got the Ribald feedback from Eleima, right?);
Yes, we talked about Ribald a bit. :)
I'm working on the other encounter. So far it's all going well, I'm adding details here and there and squashing bugs at the moment. The only problem I have right now is finding proper music. I had a particular song in mind, but the DVD I ordered last week still hasn't arrived.
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It's interesting we never got a "barmaid/prostitute" fling, per se, isn't it? Like the one Chev posted (http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php/topic,24058.msg301027.html#msg301027) in the very beginning? I remember I wanted to do something for these girls, but then I just couldn't bring myself to do it - maybe I didn't feel interesting enough. There's some content for PC/NPCs in the unmodded game, anyway.
This is something I've been batting around from the word "go." On the way to work today, I was thinking about this some more. Imagine my surprise on checking in and finding another remark about it!
The problem with writing an encounter for a working girl is that it lends itself rather well to placing the male PC firmly in control of the encounter. Putting an unnecessarily fine point on it, it suggests a dominant male PC and a willing, but submissive female NPC. It's interesting, all right, but there's a fine line between presenting an interesting encounter and presenting an offensive one. I am pretty sure I can stay on the safe side of that line. The question is more how much time I want to divert from other projects.
Tell you what: if I can write it in one evening, I'll send it for approval or rejection. If I can't, I'll scrap it to leave for someone else to attempt or ignore.
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(Um. I do not code. I can organize in a coderly fashion, but it is not, you know, coding.)
No problem, I'll code. Please, go ahead. :)
I'm working on the other encounter. So far it's all going well, I'm adding details here and there and squashing bugs at the moment. The only problem I have right now is finding proper music. I had a particular song in mind, but the DVD I ordered last week still hasn't arrived.
Great to hear it. I'm in two minds about songs, because this is something I'd gladly see for some of my submissions(well, naturally!) and I suspect cmorgan, being another musician, and ladies might be interested, too. But - size, size, size - I think BG1 NPC Project coordinators were right in separating the two.
As of now, I'm totally pro-music, as a separate download; as for including everything into the main package, I propose we all think about it a bit and discuss it a little.
The problem with writing an encounter for a working girl is that it lends itself rather well to placing the male PC firmly in control of the encounter. Putting an unnecessarily fine point on it, it suggests a dominant male PC and a willing, but submissive female NPC. It's interesting, all right, but there's a fine line between presenting an interesting encounter and presenting an offensive one. I am pretty sure I can stay on the safe side of that line. The question is more how much time I want to divert from other projects.
Tell you what: if I can write it in one evening, I'll send it for approval or rejection. If I can't, I'll scrap it to leave for someone else to attempt or ignore.
The best of luck to you in completing it! It sounds rather appealing to me, I admit - and knowing your writing... mmm... okay, okay, don't let me detain you. :)
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Heh, this makes me remember Fallout... it had some interresting elements that BG is lacking, brief romantic(or 'romantic') interludes with characters throughought the game would be one of them. Anyway if you still require some beta-testing I would happily oblige (since now I have two bg2 installations on different drives it's no fear ;) )
Also here are some ideas:
- in gta san andreas there's a mission where you need to get an important item by seducing a casino worker. It is done by cropping her own lover and taking his place. The similar event takes place in Brynnlaw where you need to get a horn from Caiya's (Desharik's wife) house. You find her accompanied by some lover-boy. If one could encounter him heading in that direction it would be possible to dispose of him, then to take his place and if the PC plays it well convince Caiya to spend the night with him instead. That way you can get the pirate horn without Caiya calling for guards. In the aftermatch Desharik could mention her affair with the PC instead of Saemon.
- there's also that girl Tassa who pleases Aran Linvail, it seems she likes guys with gold so if your PC can prove himself rich...
BTW, my first post (specifically registered for this topic) so greets to all
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Hey, welcome to PPG!
- in gta san andreas there's a mission where you need to get an important item by seducing a casino worker. It is done by cropping her own lover and taking his place. The similar event takes place in Brynnlaw where you need to get a horn from Caiya's (Desharik's wife) house. You find her accompanied by some lover-boy. If one could encounter him heading in that direction it would be possible to dispose of him, then to take his place and if the PC plays it well convince Caiya to spend the night with him instead. That way you can get the pirate horn without Caiya calling for guards. In the aftermatch Desharik could mention her affair with the PC instead of Saemon.
- there's also that girl Tassa who pleases Aran Linvail, it seems she likes guys with gold so if your PC can prove himself rich...
Nice ideas both, but I'd imagine Caiya's be really cranky if woken up and found her loverboy dead, if only because of troubles she's about to face. And as for Tassa,
Oooh, you don't have half as much money as my Aran baby! You need a lot of gold to keep Tassa's attention. (giggle!)
- and 'nobody crosses Shadow Thieves and lives' might play a role here, too. I mean, we could code
Tassa: "Well... okay"
(Fade to black, fade from black)
Arkanis Gath: "Good morning. Die, plz."
(Endgame)
... but the point?
We have Aran Linvail, and Saemon Havarian, though. Hmm... I don't know about Desharik himself...
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Oh, my. Desharik. Now there's a man who could *really* show the PC who's in charge. Renal would seem a lamb by comparison.
I wouldn't touch that one with a 10-foot keyboard. No, sir. But I would read it, if only to see the limits of his depravity, you understand.
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frigkrag roamnce?
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Um, ow...
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How do you do it with a guy who, as you know, has a +5 sword in his hoard, and you can't get it unless you kill him? It just goes against my instinct.
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I wouldn't touch that one with a 10-foot keyboard. No, sir. But I would read it, if only to see the limits of his depravity, you understand.
Oh, I do, I do. I'd do it, and I'd enjoy doing it, but I'm afraid a horde of feminists may do something horrible to me if I do...
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Am I the only one who doesn't seem to remember all the who is who of BGII? Who was Desharik again?... :(
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Pirate captain in Brynnlaw. You can get to the Asylum through him, if you fake insanity.
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oooh, I can't wait to play this! It sounds like it'll be a lot of bawdy fun, which is always a good thing!
You've probably already planned for her, but isn't there a female bard in...I think it's that Seven Vales place in the Promenade? I don't remember her name.
Then there's Garren Windspear, whom you've probably already thought of, and/or his son (isn't it a daughter if you have a male character? I haven't played a male character all the way through in so long that I don't remember, and the time I recall is with a paladin, which may make a difference)
Hmmm...*thinks*
There are so many NPCs who really have little or no function; I love the idea of making some of them more fully-realized characters.
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Tassa: "Well... okay"
(Fade to black, fade from black)
Arkanis Gath: "Good morning. Die, plz."
(Endgame)
rofl.
I finally saw the Solaufein encounter for a male PC. It's probably about as much of a power trip as I can handle, personally, but it was interesting to play.
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How do you do it with a guy who, as you know, has a +5 sword in his hoard
If the Firkraag boinking interlude includes
++ ~Listen, Lord Jierdan. I hear you have a +5 sword in your hoard, and I want to unsheath it, if you know what I mean.~ + unsheath
I may reconsider my decision.
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I wouldn't touch that one with a 10-foot keyboard. No, sir. But I would read it, if only to see the limits of his depravity, you understand.
Oh, I do, I do. I'd do it, and I'd enjoy doing it, but I'm afraid a horde of feminists may do something horrible to me if I do...
Go for it! They can always skip that component.
You've probably already planned for her, but isn't there a female bard in...I think it's that Seven Vales place in the Promenade?
We've got our own bard encounter, and she's... well, play it and find out! ;)
Then there's Garren Windspear, whom you've probably already thought of, and/or his son (isn't it a daughter if you have a male character? I haven't played a male character all the way through in so long that I don't remember, and the time I recall is with a paladin, which may make a difference)
The problem with these encounters is that they mostly run during cutscenes before you rescue the kid, and afterward, well, yeah, I guess you could do something with it. The gender of the child is opposite the gender of the PC. Come to think of it, Taar (where do they get these names?) actually insists on being the PC's "sworn love." Thing is, despite the grown-up animations, these kids strike me more as teenagers, a little too young for a one-night stand.
There are so many NPCs who really have little or no function; I love the idea of making some of them more fully-realized characters.
There are! :D
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Come to think of it, Taar (where do they get these names?) actually insists on being the PC's "sworn love."
Only if the PC's a paladin.
"It is a time-honored tradition, or so the books say. I just want to restore some grandeur to your position. You shoulder the weight that others might walk unencumbered." (male PC)
"I do not seek to establish a relationship; I only sought to exercise a time-honored paladin tradition. I have not the means to organize a joust, you understand." (female PC)
If in romance, Nathaniel, Kelsey, and Saerileth will interject. (Saeri gets VERY touchy and will terminate the romance on the wrong response)
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There's Lehtinan...eeew. On second thought, that's just wrong.
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Yeah, I thought about him, and discarded the idea immediately. It would be like swimming in a cesspool.
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If the Firkraag boinking interlude includes
++ ~Listen, Lord Jierdan. I hear you have a +5 sword in your hoard, and I want to unsheath it, if you know what I mean.~ + unsheath
I may reconsider my decision.
When he is in his dragon form? *That* would be a +7, to say the least...
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You've probably already planned for her, but isn't there a female bard in...I think it's that Seven Vales place in the Promenade? I don't remember her name.
I think you might mean Alenina in Trademeet. And, yes, in RE we have another bardess: Sheri of Mithrest Inn, song and harp.
Then there's Garren Windspear, whom you've probably already thought of, and/or his son (isn't it a daughter if you have a male character? I haven't played a male character all the way through in so long that I don't remember, and the time I recall is with a paladin, which may make a difference)
I don't know about Garren himself, but his son/daughter say fairly explicitly that they are only pretending to be your fair maiden/youngling to moon over, for the sake of old myths. PC could woo them after Firkraag is dead and Garren's child is saved... but I am not sure they will want to return to that hole again and again, and quick seduction doesn't seem to work. All in all, I agree with berelinde that game material is enough.
And Garren - if someone finds a character appealing, they are welcome to.
I think Desharik and Lethinian are both legitimate options, but I currently don't see myself doing it well, which doesn't help. But definitely something to think about.. and if someone else is interested, they are, again, welcome to.
If in romance, Nathaniel, Kelsey, and Saerileth will interject. (Saeri gets VERY touchy and will terminate the romance on the wrong response)
Heheh, I am lucky Xan doesn't romance humans... though, I remember, when my character kissed a succubus, his eyebrows almost contracted.
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Heheh, I am lucky Xan doesn't romance humans... though, I remember, when my character kissed a succubus, his eyebrows almost contracted.
I chose that option once. Just to see if he would get jealous, of course... ;)
I was wondering if there were any plans for including a Valygar component. I understand that his character (his speculated vow of celibacy) might make him ineligible for sex, but perhaps a flirtacious Charname could just tease him a bit... ;D I can already see comments from Viconia and Mazzy.
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I think Valygar or Cernd, unlike Yoshimo or Haer'Dalis or Edwin, isn't available for just a fling - it has to be a full romance. If somebody writes it, we'll welcome it to RE with open arms, of course.
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On second thought, I might just try my hand on some of these - Jason's phrase about a special sword seems too good not to be (ab)used. But I never promised nothing...
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I think Valygar or Cernd, unlike Yoshimo or Haer'Dalis or Edwin, isn't available for just a fling - it has to be a full romance. If somebody writes it, we'll welcome it to RE with open arms, of course.
I still have hope that Corthala Romantique will return one day.
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Indeed, though Corthala Romantique has some moments I personally have troubles associating with Valygar as I see him in-game: in the mod he is much darker, more troubled, a bit like Kivan. But I'll be glad to finally see it released, regardless. I remember that the flirts in the very beginning of the romance were very sweet - I think it was one of the first mods that introduced "Spy NPC as he bathes" thingy.
(EDIT: In other news: next to "Desharik the Brute" and "Firkraag's Unsheathed Sword", "Garren, a Lonely Widower" sounds almost contemporary...)
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I suspect - nay, I know! - that cmorgan would've done it much better. Nevertheless, Amn Entertainment presents: "Firkraag's Unsheathed Sword".
// Windspear Hills, Firkraag's Lair, VERY Late evening
EXTEND_BOTTOM *** ***
+ ~IsGabber(Player1) Gender(Player1,FEMALE) Global("RE_FirkraagFlirt","GLOBAL",0)~ + ~Listen, Lord Jierdan. I hear you have a very special sword in your hoard, and I want to unsheathe it, if you know what I mean.~ DO ~SetGlobal("RE_FirkraagFlirt","GLOBAL",1)~ EXTERN f1
END
APPEND ***
IF ~~ f1
SAY ~Carsomyr is mine and will remain mine!~
= ~But you did not mean that, <CHARNAME>, did you? Choose your words carefully: it may already be too late to change your mind.~
++ ~No, I did not mean Carsomyr. I wondered about an unsheathing of a different nature.~ + f4
++ ~You know what I mean... don't you?~ + f4
++ ~On second thought, I had better go.~ + f2
++ ~Carsomyr? Well, that's it, lizard. You're dead.~ + f3
END
IF ~~ f2
SAY ~Think well, before you return. You still have much to face.~
IF ~~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ f3
SAY ~You are tired of life, then. So be it.~
IF ~~ DO ~Enemy()~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ f4
SAY ~You have piqued my interest. I am willing to listen, though something tells me it is just another ploy.~
= ~Nevertheless...~
DO ~SetGlobal("RE_FirkraagMove","GLOBAL",1)
ClearAllActions() StartCutSceneMode() StartCutScene("RE_Firk1")~
EXIT
IF ~Global("RE_FirkraagMove","GLOBAL",1)~ f5
SAY ~Let us hear what you have to say.~
++ ~I want you.~ + f6
++ ~Well, you must be a very lonely man... er, dragon, no?~ + f6
++ ~To say? Nothing at all.~ + f6
++ ~Don't you think that your current form is a little... intimidating?~ + f6
END
IF ~~ f6
SAY ~Ah, that. And why should I transform for your sake?~
++ ~Because you might want me, as well?~ + f7
++ ~Because unsheathing swords is a very pleasant business.~ + f7
++ ~I have no idea.~ + f7
++ ~Oh, don't transform! I mean, a dragon is BIG!~ + f7
END
IF ~~ f7
SAY ~Hmm.~
= ~This smells of insanity. Of course, Children of Bhaal are hardly rational...~
= ~No, <CHARNAME>. I am too amused to be offended, but do not do it again. Now go.~
DO ~SetGlobal("RE_FirkraagMove","GLOBAL",2)~
EXIT
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Also, I realize it might be a _tad_ too late to ask you all that, but I've just looked at Desharik encounter, then at Drunk-NPC-thread, then at the mod again, and I have a question: while I know all team members are over 18, are any of the testers... ?
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Also, I realize it might be a _tad_ too late to ask you all that, but I've just looked at Desharik encounter, then at Drunk-NPC-thread, then at the mod again, and I have a question: while I know all team members are over 18, are any of the testers... ?
*raises hand* I'm twenty...
((BTW, everything's looking good so far in the beta.))
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I'm over twenty-one, so I'm even allowed to have the drunken banters... ;D
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:) Heheh.
((BTW, everything's looking good so far in the beta.))
Everything - this sounds good, but how many and which components have you tested so far?
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I'm over twenty-one, so I'm even allowed to have the drunken banters... ;D
Pst! You don't have to be drunk to play them! Just to write them... er, I mean... oh, yeah! Only the NPCs are drunk!
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. ;)
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Indeed, though Corthala Romantique has some moments I personally have troubles associating with Valygar as I see him in-game: in the mod he is much darker, more troubled, a bit like Kivan. But I'll be glad to finally see it released, regardless. I remember that the flirts in the very beginning of the romance were very sweet - I think it was one of the first mods that introduced "Spy NPC as he bathes" thingy.
I don't think anyone will be disappointed by the complete Corthala Romantique. Domi's writing is top-notch, as usual ;D
I can already see comments from Viconia and Mazzy.
Mazzy: >:( "Stay AWAY from my squire!" >:(
Hey, Solaufein gets to hit on Val, why not the PC? ;)
Also, I realize it might be a _tad_ too late to ask you all that, but I've just looked at Desharik encounter, then at Drunk-NPC-thread, then at the mod again, and I have a question: while I know all team members are over 18, are any of the testers... ?
I'm turning 22 on the 21st (my niece managed to find tons of Harry Potter-related recipes for the day...I might regret agreeing to that), so I'm definitely of age.
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Also, I realize it might be a _tad_ too late to ask you all that, but I've just looked at Desharik encounter, then at Drunk-NPC-thread, then at the mod again, and I have a question: while I know all team members are over 18, are any of the testers... ?
I won't say how old I am.....but I will say that I am well over eighteen.
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Also, I realize it might be a _tad_ too late to ask you all that, but I've just looked at Desharik encounter, then at Drunk-NPC-thread, then at the mod again, and I have a question: while I know all team members are over 18, are any of the testers... ?
I'm well beyond every age limit known in the United States (well, except the one to run for President).
Or, in English, 23.
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:) Heheh.
((BTW, everything's looking good so far in the beta.))
Everything - this sounds good, but how many and which components have you tested so far?
As I said, I'm only able to proofread dialogs. My PC is dismantled and I don't know if the laptop I'm using has enough RAM for the game...I'll look into it. *looks around for game cases*
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I don't want the Firkraag encounter to be included. Talking about a "+5" specification of a sword is definitely fourth wall breaking.
(I am one of those who didn't get the point in jcompton's post. I got it now.)
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I realize the text I put in the code quotes *is* rather horrible(though it might sound less horrible, the more dialogue-related mods in Modlist section you try), but where did you see "+5" there?
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As I said, I'm only able to proofread dialogs. My PC is dismantled and I don't know if the laptop I'm using has enough RAM for the game...I'll look into it. *looks around for game cases*
That's cool, too - I really appreciate all proofreading efforts. But I would never believe someone'd read dialogue and not find a single "you suck here! And there! And Noober doesn't sound like this at all! And, look, typos! You want to look at Hubelpot, people!" comment to make. Please, if you have any, do PM to me, or to the author of the encounter.
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I realize the text I put in the code quotes *is* rather horrible(though it might sound less horrible, the more dialogue-related mods in Modlist section you try), but where did you see "+5" there?
I guess I mixed it with what jcompton wrote. What a relief! No objections from my side then. *cough* :P
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I made two discoveries during yesterday's short session of RE testing:
- as I pressed CTRL-T(one hour of game time passes) repeatedly, I noticed small symbols of sun and the moon in the bottom left corner, which circled and changed each other. As the symbol of sun disappeared, the night fell in Athkatla.
(It *was* pleasant to find something like this after years of playing. :) )
- we currently have thirty optional RE components.
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I made two discoveries during yesterday's short session of RE testing:
- as I pressed CTRL-T(one hour of game time passes) repeatedly, I noticed small symbols of sun and the moon in the bottom left corner, which circled and changed each other. As the symbol of sun disappeared, the night fell in Athkatla.
(It *was* pleasant to find something like this after years of playing. :) )
- we currently have thirty optional RE components.
Wow. I've been playing since BG1 came out and never knew about that. I'll have to check it out. Thanks for sharing ;D
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Barmaid encounter dialogue and coding finished. It compiles, but I haven't tested it. Must sleep.
Edit: tested it anyway. Go fig.
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Wish I'd found this thread earlier. Whoops. But, if adult, native English speaking testers are needed, I'm salivating on my keyboard just thinking about trying this out ;) By the way, the assassin Arkanis wasn't mentioned as an option, right? Would he be thrown into consideration for later, or is he simply too obscure?
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You'd like to join? Sure, check your private messages.
I'm just not sure how you'd encounter Arkanis in the first place - and when you do, it's kind of too late for this sort of thing, if you get my drift. :) But, sure, if you'd like to write him, go ahead.
And thank you very much, berelinde - I've updated the first post, will have a look at her a little later.
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Thanx! My only problem is that it's a .rar file, and my computer refuses to run .rar files. Okay, I guess I'll figure it out somehow. I appreciate the link, though!
And Arkanis, I figured he was too obscure, but thought I'd ask anyway. Was also going to ask about Ikert the halfling fence in the Docks, but figured I'd be putting my foot in my mouth, and considering I do that enough in RL, didn't want to do it here...
Yes, anyway, thanx again for the link, I shall try to coerce/force/threaten/torture my computer into working it out, and hope I don't blow anything else up in the process... :-[ Then again, I don't think screwing with the processor is going to set fire to another monitor, so functional .rar files shouldn't be too much to hope for with some tinkering. Any suggestions? I hope I don't sound like an idiot asking for help about something painfully obvious, it's just that I've tried to download the program before, it didn't work, and I don't want to break anything...
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It's easy - Winrar at Winrar.com has a free trial period, so you'll be able to install it and unpack the files int your BG2 directory, I believe. I prefer Total Commander/Windows Commander - it has automatic unpacking utilities.
And Arkanis, I figured he was too obscure, but thought I'd ask anyway. Was also going to ask about Ikert the halfling fence in the Docks, but figured I'd be putting my foot in my mouth, and considering I do that enough in RL, didn't want to do it here...
Rogues are good. And Evaine Dian writes cool rogues, and cmorgan writes hot rogues. Anyway, I think it is a good idea - Cromwell with a dwarven female PC would also be nice, except that, judging by the polls, nobody ever plays dwarves, and very few play halflings. Remains to be seen if it does get written - which also means that you are free to try your hand here, too.
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Ooh, thank you so much for the suggestions! I think it was the Winrar.com thing that fizzed out last time, but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result, so I'll try it again ;D The other stuff, I'll Google. Hey...Google! What a concept, why didn't I think of that before?
Eh, Cromwell and Ikert. I'd try if I thought I could get into their characters. I'll chat them up again and see if I can come up with some concepts, but I'm not sure of my capabilities with other peoples' bit characters and I know nothing of coding or anything about mods except usually installing them :-\.
I tried to play a dwarf before. A swashbuckler no less. Great armor, great stats, great party, and the vampires literally ate him alive. Just a question, do you think Cromwell would chat up other wee-folk ladies (gnomes, halflings...)? And would it be too much to ask for a reference sample of one of the other encounters? I just, eh, would like not to head in the totally wrong direction. I'll give Cromwell a try, and maybe Ikert, disregarding my previous waffling. I just need, well, a map, a guideline, a reference point, a water noodle to keep my head up. And limits would also be nice. How tame is the mild side? How hot is the wild side?
And how high is your tolerance for someone who usually starts out smart, and then realises she left her brain behind a few miles ago? I'm bound to be useless, but I'm gonna try to be useful anyway. If I start getting in the way, step on me or smack my nose and I'll move ;)
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Just look at the mod's components. There're no guildelines, per se, save your taste and sense.
If you still have problems with unpacking, PM me with your e-mail address, and I'll send you a .zip version(you can unzip .zips, right?), or a simple .exe file(but that would be much later, since I'm at work now).
As for characters themselves, well. That's the question, isn't it? I know I wanted to do something for Jarlaxle, that drow mercenary in Ust Natha, but it simply didn't work for me - I couldn't find the hook. So I went and did a short encounter with Garren Windspear instead. It could work this way with you, as well: if you can't find motivation for Cromwell or Ikert, you could find one for Arkanis, or for Jarlaxle, or for Cernd, or even for - well, I don't know. :) Also, look at the list of already done components in the first post.
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cmorgan writes hot rogues.
Oh my, that Renal was.... so sizzling... *fans herself* ::) A new report'll be coming in sometime... soon, Kulyok. I hope. Maybe. :-[
But still, I can already say right now to all the ladies out there, that Renal is totally worth the "trouble" of going through the Mae'var quest.
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Oh, yes. :)
Yesterday I've tested all components, and corrected one Anishai's repetition(search me/search you), one Ribald's repetition(NotThisTime state in advanced lovetalk, instead of NotNow) and one Laran's glitch(he now spawns in ToB only if they met&flirted in SoA). By the way, testing female submissions with a male character with Jasper's soundset is hilarious.
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I must say it's a well made stuff and each encounter is quite unique amongst others. I gave RE a run with the Megainstallation (BGT/NEJ/TS/TDD/CtB etc) and it works quite fine. Up till now I've noticed only a few problems:
- when asking Bodhi during the same dialog when you report Aran's demise and later talking to her after the affair I got the same dialog again (the one "I take it that your hunt was successful...") which actually means getting exp for the group twice ;D , I think the global "BodhiNotReady" should be set to 1 to prevent this
- Renal is unavailable in chapter 6 because he comments about the shadowmaster summoning you or the undead being destroyed, when the game skipped to chapter 7 after killing Irenicus it was available again
- I wasn't able to get any new Coran dialog but that's probably due to BGT/TS where he is made a joinable character
- in those encounters where you are taken to a seperate area and then rest is forced there can occur a problem if any dream sequence launches triggered by the rest, the whole party is then transported to that area and remains trapped there (I suspect because StorePartyLocations() was used in the new area)
Well, that's it for now. Hope it helped.
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Thank you very much, this is indeed quite a lot - most useful.
With Renal, I think it is reasonable - chapter 6 is about Bodhi, after all; with Bodhi, will fix it, thank you. I'll see if I can make Coran's encounter happen via an interjection, as opposed to an EXTEND_BOTTOM - it is really easy to miss, even without other mods installed.
- in those encounters where you are taken to a seperate area and then rest is forced there can occur a problem if any dream sequence launches triggered by the rest, the whole party is then transported to that area and remains trapped there (I suspect because StorePartyLocations() was used in the new area)
I think you are right, yes, StorePartyLocations(). Which encounters were they? Just one example will do.
I was thinking about a separate dream sequence tweak(by the way, if someone more experienced than me wishes to complete it, I wouldn't say no :) ), so dreams and dream talks and cutscenes do not interrupt each other, but we'll do our best to prevent this in a vanilla mod, nevertheless.
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This mod is sounding cooler and cooler! Or hotter and hotter... ;D Anyways I just can't help but wonder if Booter the torture dwarf (gnome? halfling?) is included. Just wondering. (back to eager lurking)
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Moving StorePartyLocations() to the dialogue right before the cutscene wouldn't change anything.
The one I just sent you uses it in RE_Miri1.baf
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Yes, and I'm trying to understand how it happens. My guess is Laran might have it, since they RestParty in a new area, but that Miri will actually be fine - unless the game dream triggers *first*, and *after* the dream, the romantic encounter plays? (I thought these player1d additions were fishy. :) ) Anyway, what do we do?
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Okay, fixed Bodhi's variable, added another suggestive reply leading to Coran's encounter, and...
- in those encounters where you are taken to a seperate area and then rest is forced there can occur a problem if any dream sequence launches triggered by the rest, the whole party is then transported to that area and remains trapped there (I suspect because StorePartyLocations() was used in the new area)
I think the only encounter that fits this is Laran: his RestParty() happens in ARRE03.
My test proved that - the party indeed hangs. My suggestion would be replacing RestParty() with a cutscene a-la Yoshimo:
IF
True()
THEN
RESPONSE #100
CutSceneId(Player1)
Wait(2)
FadeToColor([20.0],0)
Wait(3)
FadeFromColor([20.0],0)
Wait(1)
ActionOverride("B!Laran",StartDialogueNoSet(Player1))
END
berelinde?
Also, in Laran: after Laran's dialogue ends and the encounter is over, maybe we'll transfer PC back immediately? As it is, she and Laran stand a little in an empty room, Laran disappears, she stands a little more, than she disappears, and it looks a bit like a bug - though technically it is harmless.
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I'm confused. How would replacing the RestParty() in the script with the code you supply result in the party actually resting?
I don't have any objection to a fade to black there, but the're no logical reason that Aerie wouldn't get her spells back, no matter what Laran and the PC were up to. If you wanted to put in Rest(Player1) through Rest(Player6), I'd be OK with that. Using Rest() instead of RestParty() would prevent the dream sequences/night talks. But I would really prefer the inn resting animation to still play, if possible. Any way to cue the movie without actually using RestParty()? Maybe copy and rename the MOS, and cue it separately?
Miri's script does this, too, by the way. For her, I'd also be alright with just a fade to black and individual Rest()s. For Laran, the idea of time passage is important, but for Miri, it doesn't matter much.
First time using cutscenes. I guess there's bound to be a bit of a learning curve.
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Laran is the only encounter that needs adjusting, because RestParty() command happens in the new area, _and_ party locations are stored beforehand.
Let me say it again:
1) Romantic encounter. PC and Laran meet, talk, and Cutscene 1 triggers - they are transported into a room. The locations of party members are stored.
2) When in the room, they talk some more and rest. RestParty() triggers a plot-related dream. The locations of party members are stored again, and the previous stored location is obsolete - no longer there.
3) The dream ends, rest screen plays, and party members are dumped into the room with Laran and PC(I witnessed it, myself), because the latest StorePartyLocations happened, when PC was in ARRE03.
4) Laran goes away, and RestorePartyLocations() runs in the cutscene, but it does nothing - it only restores PC and party members in ARRE03. ARRE03 has no exits - they are stuck.
The only correct way to avoid this and not to dump the entire party into the room with PC and Laran is the cutscene I mentioned earlier. And, again, Miri, Laran and others will be fine - because with Miri, RestParty() plays after locations are restored, and everybody's home, not in the custom area.
But I would really prefer the inn resting animation to still play, if possible. Any way to cue the movie without actually using RestParty()?
It's StartMovie() - we could try this, I think.
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I am not sure about advancing time - I know that we can do DayNight(), but it adds from an hour to a day, depending on the time now, and you can't control it. But Rest() we could add, certainly.
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I'm not too hung up about advancing the actual time. It's more the idea that the night has been spent together, which the scene with the beds (and the white rat) symbolizes, for me. If we can get there with just a series of Rest()s and a StartMovie(), I'd be more than happy.
And now I understand what you mean: in Miri (and in Renal, etc), there isn't a morning after talk in the same room, so the rest happens after the locations are restored.
What about Sheri? Does that have a morning after talk in the same room?
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Sheri is fine, too - she has a fade to black/fade from black sequence, because they, like PC and Yoshimo, do not spend entire night together.
Okay, I'll do what I can, I hope it will work(and there's a TextScreen I should add to Evaine Dian's new encounter, too), and will assemble Beta 7 soon, for your testing and consideration. Now, back to work...
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I am not sure this is a practicable solution, but the Laran RestParty() problem could be avoided by
-after Laran's dialogue, start cutscene and black screen, restore party locations (Player 1 is back with the others)
-Restparty(), with dream might occurr
-still black screen, transport player 1 back to Laran's room
-fade from black, morning after talk.
If it makes any sense.
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It does, yes, I think it could work, too. But it will require messing with baldur.bcs/area script, and the worst is, right after rest the screen will clear, if only for a moment. I've fixed Laran already, it's really simple with Rest() and StartMovie - I only have to check if it works on SoA-only install without Wait() commands.
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I've been trying to figure out why my game gets stuck with the simplest textscreen cutscene for about twenty minutes. And then I found out I never included it into my .tp2 in the first place.
It did compile and play correctly on the first try, though. :)
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What did I do wrong, then?
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I've no idea - I didn't use your code, I just used your .mos and coded it from scratch. My guess would be .2da file.
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I've been trying to figure out why my game gets stuck with the simplest textscreen cutscene for about twenty minutes. And then I found out I never included it into my .tp2 in the first place.
When I was testing Miri last night, I was trying to figure out why the dialogue changes I made weren't showing up in the game. And then I realized I forgot to reinstall the mod.
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I've been trying to figure out why my game gets stuck with the simplest textscreen cutscene for about twenty minutes. And then I found out I never included it into my .tp2 in the first place.
It did compile and play correctly on the first try, though. :)
*Starts to sing* That happens to me e-e-every time...
Can I make reservations? I just wrote an "encounter enhancement" for BG1: Bjornin, the hurt paladin in Beregost. If BG1 RE won't be made I'll include it into my (to be) BG1 mod. :)
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I'm going to ignore my common sensibilities... and ask if you all need another hand in testing.
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You know, we could probaby move to a BG1 inclusive one, if we wanted.
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You know, we could probaby move to a BG1 inclusive one, if we wanted.
Does this mean that RE is almost ready for us the eager public to download?
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Can I make reservations? I just wrote an "encounter enhancement" for BG1: Bjornin, the hurt paladin in Beregost. If BG1 RE won't be made I'll include it into my (to be) BG1 mod.
Ah, I remember the guy. I was wondering about BG1 stuff, too, of course; my concern is that somehow it doesn't seem as rich in personalities as BG2 is; but again, perhaps it is better to release RE first, so there's no confusion.
I wonder: since most players do react most positively on meeting old faces from BG1 in BG2, do you think we could include Bjornin in BG2, in this version of RE? He could be investigating those ogres in Umar Hills, for example, or just following through Athkatla on the Order's tasks.
I'm going to ignore my common sensibilities... and ask if you all need another hand in testing.
Sure we do! Check your private messages. :)
Does this mean that RE is almost ready for us the eager public to download?
Well, if you want to play it right now, you know what to do. :) What I would like to do is to ensure all possible components are included before the release - because, as practice shows, version 1 gets the most downloads, and because right now, before the release, is the best way to do it. So, if anyone would like to submit something, they are still welcome to - until the very day of release.
Currently, though, I'm expecting the final part of Manisha encounter, and two more encounters - magrat's Guildmistress Busya, and Ajnos' Lord Logan.
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I think it would be wise, from technical/story standpoint, to
- make Romantic Encounters BG2-only;
Though, as mac402 has very helpfully noted, it is compatible with BGT/mega mods/etc. One look at BG1 NPC Project code proves that coding for BG1/TUTU/BGT has some unique features, which set it apart from BG2 coding. Besides, as far as I know, so far only mods like BG2 Tweaks offer the same download for TUTU/BG2, and that's because the overwhelming majority of the components offer the same changes for both games. Which is not the case here.
- if there is a BG1(TUTU, BGT) counterpart - a different mod - it should really go under a different name.
So there's no confusion with feedback, bug reports and authors - just look at the number of locked threads about Imoen Romance in Imoen Relationship forum. Just like it was with Banter Pack: Part Deux, which was re-christened Crossmod (Banter Pack) in the end.
I am doing a quick run through TUTU, looking for the likely spots/candidates, and so far, I'm afraid, it does sound like BG2 is a much more ripe setting in this regard, especially when you look at female characters the game offers. Or perhaps it is the setting itself, and the role of a novice adventurer/a frightened young waif with no knowledge of their origin that BG1 seems to dictate to the PC.
I am not saying that it's hopeless - but I am not yet sure an Innuendo Package for BG1 is worth it.
Again, I'd rather wait with this discussion until RE is ready and released.
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If you need any more help...I'd be happy to join. I would be testing it with a male PC, Xan NPC and the NPC flirtpack, y'know if you need anymore help :)
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Help is good. :) Check your private messages.
And welcome to PPG, all ye new users!
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Bjornin in BGII.. Mmh, that idea could have been from me.
I am not sure I will write anything in the next days, though. But I like the idea.
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Glad you think so. :) We need more paladins around.
(Ajaaaaantiiiiis, Gaaaavin, where are youuuu!)
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- in those encounters where you are taken to a seperate area and then rest is forced there can occur a problem if any dream sequence launches triggered by the rest, the whole party is then transported to that area and remains trapped there (I suspect because StorePartyLocations() was used in the new area)
Yeah it happened during Laran encounter. I was thinking, maybe it would be good to drop the StorePartyLocations() and manually transport the party to the Mithrest Inn after Laran scene. At least in my case the dream sequence, even if it occured, didn't stop the scene only made the party stuck at the end. I haven't tested this solution but my guess is the only unpleasant effect left would be seeing the whole party with Laran and the PC after the night.
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Yeah, it could work, as well - except that Mithrest Inn isn't "You must gather your party before venturing forth" area, so it could have some unpleasant side effects, such as Keldorn standing by Ribald, Aerie - by Mira, and Yoshimo - by the Ore Merchant, PC is about to flirt with Laran, and afterwards they are all suddenly in the room, and you have to go shopping all over again.
(That's rather selfish of me, but when I test, first and foremost I think of myself, as a player - it helps.)
So, we did Rest() + rest movie, and it seemed to work fine. That's some great feedback you provided, by the way - thank you.
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Glad you think so. :) We need more paladins around.
(Ajaaaaantiiiiis, Gaaaavin, where are youuuu!)
I *so* want to resume work on Gavin for BG2, but I need to finalize BG1 first. I'm working on that now.
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And Jastey, I so hope that you find the time for Bjornin in BG2. I would so like to... *ahem*... interact with him on a more personal level.
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(Ajaaaaantiiiiis, Gaaaavin, where are youuuu!)
Heh :)
berelinde: Especially, since he's not ready for that in BG1... yet.
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Sorry to interject, everyone, but this mod sounds too delicious for words! As a matter of fact, it's the very reason I registered. I, too, would be all too happy to volunteer to beta-test. :-*
As an aside, I wonder if anyone else had given a thought of what it may be like to have the PC spend some time in Maevar's torture chamber? It could make for an intriguing, if potentially fatal, exploit.
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Welcome! And, sure enough, the travelling user is never turned away in this thread - check your PMs.
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@Proserpina - RE doesn't merely *sound* too delicious for words :D
Reporting current progress. So far no grammar errors, and the only bug I've noticed might not even be connected to RE. But if anyone else notices that Rejiek the Skin Dancer's damage tag says 'dead' but he's still attacking things in Trademeet...it might be a valid bug. Might. Beyond that, I predict that when Romantic Adventures comes out for the general public, it's going to be a raving success. And peoples' water bills are going to skyrocket due to the demand for cold showers ;D
@Kulyok - I'm building the alter to you as we speak. Thank you for the zip file!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can't currently think of anything to write for Cromwell or Ikert, but I was thinking, should there be an option in a later version to try to seduce Corneil so that an appropriate PC could possibly pay less for the magic "license"? Or was that already suggested and I simply need to get my head examined?
BTW: Has anyone else had steam come out of their ears, or is that just me?
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Hi, me again.
I've noticed that Ribald won't initiate banters with the pc if Adventurer's Mart was visited prior to installing RE. I also see that the RE script is added to him via WeiDU patching. I think it would be better to add a command like ChangeAIScript("RE_RIBA",GENERAL) to his dialog instead. That way you don't need to start a new game for this component to work fully.
Another problem I found was with Sendai dream in ToB. After the scene I was returned to my previous location, then the rest movie occured, then for a short period everything was ok but after that the sequence of party being returned from pocket plane played (like after loading a ToB save) and I found Aerie being immobilized. After a while I figured out it was because of the Ring of the Fanatic she was wearing. This item gives immunity to 1st and 2nd level spells. It is a mod item but it never did something like this to me before. Maybe there is some way of avoiding this.
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I've noticed that Ribald won't initiate banters with the pc if Adventurer's Mart was visited prior to installing RE. I also see that the RE script is added to him via WeiDU patching. I think it would be better to add a command like ChangeAIScript("RE_RIBA",GENERAL) to his dialog instead. That way you don't need to start a new game for this component to work fully.
This rocks, thanks!
Another problem I found was with Sendai dream in ToB. After the scene I was returned to my previous location, then the rest movie occured, then for a short period everything was ok but after that the sequence of party being returned from pocket plane played (like after loading a ToB save) and I found Aerie being immobilized. After a while I figured out it was because of the Ring of the Fanatic she was wearing. This item gives immunity to 1st and 2nd level spells. It is a mod item but it never did something like this to me before. Maybe there is some way of avoiding this.
I'm afraid this will happen after in-game Spellhold cutscene(when your soul is taken, I've borrowed the code from there), as well, so there's not much we can do about it - I mean, it will break the original game events, too. :(
As for loading ToB save, noted - I'll try and alter the cutscene a bit.
Thank you!
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When I tried to load my game today I found out my dvd-player had made a huge tear in my bg cd :'( , so I'll have to wait a few days until I can start testing...sorry.
On a more personal note, since I first read about this mod I've always hoped for some sort of Nalia fling...I don't know why, am I alone in this? I think it could be really fun and juicy. Especially if it has some aftermath in TOB.
Ah, well I guess I'll just have to wait quietly for my new shadows of amn cd...*BOOORRRIIINNNG*
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That's Nalia Romance here at PPG. Trust me, it will be worth the wait when it is done, voiced, tested and released. In the meanwhile, we do have a lovely string of ladies you might want to meet - after your CD is back in place, of course. See the list of completed components in the first post.
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Another Beta is out: now with Desharik, Eldoth, Firkraag, Garren, Miri and Manisha.
I'm under Harry Potter spell currently, so I tend to lose the track of things. Please, check your private messages, and if you don't find today's one with the latest link(and you're on the list of playtesters/proofreaders), bump me about it.
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I'm under Harry Potter spell currently, so I tend to lose the track of things.
I celebrated my birthday a full week early because of Potter Day! ;D I plan on getting up nice and early on Saturday to make the Potter pilgrimage.
Anyways...
I'm afraid this will happen after in-game Spellhold cutscene(when your soul is taken, I've borrowed the code from there), as well, so there's not much we can do about it - I mean, it will break the original game events, too.
I believe nethrin had the same problem with Kindrek at that point, but I have no idea what he did to fix it.
*slightly offtopic* mac, can you steer me in the direction of that item mod? *likes collecting item mods*
*edited due to messed up quote*
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Downloaded and installed. Will report back later! :)
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Okay, latest version downloaded and installed, and even played a little bit. So far I have found two things.
Talking to Garren Windspear, he says, "...who our child will become..." And because it's in the past tense, I think it should be "would become".
Talking to Manisha (I think I spelled that right, can't read my handwriting right now...)
In the description of her right before she dances, it's written (Had she looked...) and should be (If or Though she looked...).
Insofar, as of yet, that's all I found, it's all otherwise very nicely done ;D Love it, looking forward to playing more, and I definitely think that this mod is going to be incredibly popular when it comes out for the general public.
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A little busy with real life so I thought I should hop over and say I haven't been able to do any testing for a while and may not for a few more days. Luckily, it seems there are plenty of other testers to pick up my slack. :)
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I celebrated my birthday a full week early because of Potter Day! I plan on getting up nice and early on Saturday to make the Potter pilgrimage.
What? You haven't started to read the book yet? :)
@Western Paladin - sure!
@Clarion - thank you very much for these - both seem to be grammar issues, yes. Please, take it via PM next time, to prevent spoilers. (For the frightened users out there, NO, you will not have children with Garren).
@Cygnea - of course. I'll still keep you on the list of "to be updated" users, though, if you don't mind - and thank you very much for everything you've already done for RE.
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Whoops, sorry :-[
Eh-heh, 'kay, PM next time, right. I'll have to remember that...
BTW: Was I supposed to find the grammatical errors in the canon Bioware dialogues too? ;D
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BTW: Was I supposed to find the grammatical errors in the canon Bioware dialogues too?
Nah, that's outside of RE limits.
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In the description of her right before she dances, it's written (Had she looked...) and should be (If or Though she looked...).
Why not use an inversion? Or do you think that the tense is wrong?
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It's not the tense, but "Had she looked pale" means "If she looked pale(but she didn't look pale), then...", i.e.
"Had she looked pale" != "If she looked pale". Or, at least, I think so.
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"Had she looked pale" = "If she had looked pale". "If she looked pale" is a different tense, and "Though she looked pale" is completely different.
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"Had she looked pale" = "If she had looked pale".
That's it! Thank you.
So "Had Manisha looked overly modest down in the tavern, she has now turned into the complete opposite." works as intended... right?
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RE's gonna rule :) I'm really impressed that with so many encounters added they don't look similar to each other. However the female protagonist has 10 more encounters than male protagonist :(
Suggestion: Maybe Miri should delay a bit before she aproaches pc, so that it doesn't take place immediately after Viekang action.
*slightly offtopic* mac, can you steer me in the direction of that item mod? *likes collecting item mods*
The ring was snatched from a group of crazy zealots that invaded planar sphere in the Planar Sphere Mod. It's a bit buggy btw. There is some new version here (http://soetelsk.org/PlanarSphereMod26a.rar) though I haven't tested it.
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So "Had Manisha looked overly modest down in the tavern, she has now turned into the complete opposite." works as intended... right?
I'm totally confused, but I think so, yes.
However the female protagonist has 10 more encounters than male protagonist :(
Well, the team is almost exclusively female... what did you expect? :)
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Hey. Anyone written anything for Sarevok, yet? Could be interesting... or extremely creepy, depending on the type of PC. I have a few ideas for that, floating around in my head. If I ever get the draft for it done, who should I send it to?
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I celebrated my birthday a full week early because of Potter Day! I plan on getting up nice and early on Saturday to make the Potter pilgrimage.
What? You haven't started to read the book yet? :)
I don't have my copy yet, it's not out in the US until Saturday :( It's on preorder, though :)
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I tested Manisha last night. It was a little on the long side, but it worked for me, at least. I noticed a couple of spelling mistakes, which I will send by private message a little later (running to a conference lecture now!). The "gimmick," so to speak - ingenious.
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"Had Manisha looked overly modest down in the tavern, she has now turned into the complete opposite."
Frankly, the phrase sounds ugly, and not because of the inversion in the first clause (which often gives some nice flavor). The problem is, the two clauses seem to have no logical connection. In the first, not only the unlikelihood of Manisha's modesty (in the past) is stated, but there is also a suggestion that in the opposite case the RESULT would be contrary to the fact ("Had she looked overly modest" = "If she had looked overly modest", and now we expect something kinda "then she would...") So I'd rather see it worded like "Even though she looked overly modest down in the tavern, Manisha has now turned into the complete opposite"
EDIT> Or perhaps just adding 'even' to the sentence would make it sound more logical all together:
"Had she even looked overly modest down in the tavern, Manisha has now turned into the complete opposite."
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@Lu: Thanks, really. I seriously fumbled trying to get something similar across, initially. You are very articulate. I think we can all appreciate that 8)
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Hey. Anyone written anything for Sarevok, yet? Could be interesting... or extremely creepy, depending on the type of PC. I have a few ideas for that, floating around in my head. If I ever get the draft for it done, who should I send it to?
Me.
(I wanted to ask you to do Yoshimo, by the way, but I didn't want to be obtrusive.)
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Suggestion: Maybe Miri should delay a bit before she aproaches pc, so that it doesn't take place immediately after Viekang action.
It sounds reasonable, if not for the fact that many protagonists never enter this tavern, let alone entering it twice. And some just enter it, see Viekang and exit.
Frankly, the phrase sounds ugly, and not because of the inversion in the first clause (which often gives some nice flavor). The problem is, the two clauses seem to have no logical connection. In the first, not only the unlikelihood of Manisha's modesty (in the past) is stated, but there is also a suggestion that in the opposite case the RESULT would be contrary to the fact ("Had she looked overly modest" = "If she had looked overly modest", and now we expect something kinda "then she would...") So I'd rather see it worded like "Even though she looked overly modest down in the tavern, Manisha has now turned into the complete opposite"
Or I'd just drop the first part.
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News!
- I'm happy to say that Guildmistress Busya is complete;
- I'm also very happy to say that CamDawg and Gibberlings at Gibberlings 3 have agreed to host us, when we're done.
And I've also have a question to the team. Seeing how we've written reactions to RE components for Bioware NPCs, added all relevant variables in the Readme for crossmod purposes, am I right to understand other modders are free to use RE romance variables for reactions? Do we make such a clarification in the readme, or do we go some other way? Ladies, gentleman?
(Xan will react to a few, if PC asks him, and will initiate a shocked banter after Saemon, though it's currently invisible, given how RE is still in development, and will stay invisible, if we decide not to implement it).
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// Short answer: Fine by me. Open content, freely available to all.
// Long answer:
Personally, I would hope that every single variable used in every single mod in existence is considered open territory. To do less is to restrict other modders from their personal creativity.
I understand wanting to keep ownership of a mod's dialogue so a personal vision can be maintained, but another modder adding lines to react to RE content istheir own business, not ours - and any modder should be free to write the mod they want to (this goes without saying on BioWare's stuff, since that is our whole goal, but if I wanted to write content for Ajantis and Xan having a wild romantic fling with eachother and male PC [icky - not going to do that - was just trying to find the most horrible corruption of ideas out there to make the point] I strongly feel that I should be able to write the mod, and if folks have installed other content that has variables, use them to modify my mods responses (say, Ajantis or Xan are in a romance state [again, not possible - just theorizing] - then my mod should be able to react to it.)
The only concern I would have is if a modder used such variables to shut down (for example) Xan' or Ajantis' content - but I am outvoted here, because most folks already do that. You and berelinde and jastey, for example, working together to make sure each person has some control over what happens so people don't multi-romance the boyz. You are nice to do so, and work together, but in other situations I think it is better just to write your vision.
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I right to understand other modders are free to use RE romance variables for reactions? Do we make such a clarification in the readme, or do we go some other way?
*blinks in astonishment* Of course. What else would the variables be for?
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By all means, modders are free to use RE variables for their own NPC reactions. They can have their own modded or BioWare NPCs talk about Laran, Ada, or Miri all day long, for all I care, either amongh themselves, or with the PC.
*However* I do not give permission for any mod to introduce mod-NPC or BioWare NPC dialogue to Laran, Ada or Miri without my prior approval.
Random examples pulled from thin air:
Use ~Global("RE_LaranSex","GLOBAL",1)~ to start a dialogue between Valygar and Xan about how flighty the PC is? Fine!
Use ~Global("RE_LaranSex","GLOBAL",1)~ to start a dialogue between Kelsey and the PC about how she really needs to get her priorities straight? Have fun!
Amber interjects into Ada's dialogue to say that if the PC spends 5 minutes alone with Ada, she'll dump him? Not cool. Not that I'd likely have a problem with it. I just want to see it first to say for sure.
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Thank you very much for your swift replies, everyone. So far we seem to be in agreement, it seems.
"Please, feel free to use all variables listed below for your own NPC reactions." under "General Information"(before the listing of the components) sounds good to me, then.
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Or I'd just drop the first part.
If no competent native speaker comes along with a better solution, the sentence will stay as it is.
By all means, modders are free to use RE variables for their own NPC reactions. They can have their own modded or BioWare NPCs talk about Laran, Ada, or Miri all day long, for all I care, either amongh themselves, or with the PC.
*However* I do not give permission for any mod to introduce mod-NPC or BioWare NPC dialogue to Laran, Ada or Miri without my prior approval.
I'm with Berelinde on this one, for my components, of course.
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*However* I do not give permission for any mod to introduce mod-NPC or BioWare NPC dialogue to Laran, Ada or Miri without my prior approval.
I thought you mean by that you don't want other modders to write dialogue for them. Isn't interjecting sort of difficult to realise, since it would be an I_C_T into mod content?
cmorgan: (sigh...) dream on, dream on. I am with you on that one, but this can't be realised in IE modding community, there is too much "keep away from my mod content" going on.
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I thought this meant "you can write something but please show it to me first"? And maybe "I'd gladly help you to write something we both can live with"? At least that's what I meant. :)
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I thought this meant "you can write something but please show it to me first"? And maybe "I'd gladly help you to write something we both can live with"? At least that's what I meant. :)
Argh, yes, of course, I forgot to put an "and make it public without my consent" above.
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I just wanted to joke that I'll be a guardian with a flaming sword(naturally, a flaming sword animation made by Erephine), in case someone attempts to
steal our virtue interject into our texts, but it doesn't sound so good.
(My head is really, really empty; it's all Harry Potter, I tell you. I'm having difficulties to fill a primitive Oracle table at work, even).
Oh, and that Manisha's sentence stays, yes, I haven't touched anything.
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*However* I do not give permission for any mod to introduce mod-NPC or BioWare NPC dialogue to Laran, Ada or Miri without my prior approval.
I thought you mean by that you don't want other modders to write dialogue for them. Isn't interjecting sort of difficult to realise, since it would be an I_C_T into mod content?
cmorgan: (sigh...) dream on, dream on. I am with you on that one, but this can't be realised in IE modding community, there is too much "keep away from my mod content" going on.
Well, it's possible to interject into mod content using some tricky WeiDU STRING_WHICH_SAYS ninjary. Crossmod's got a bit of it. And I have no idea how it works. Learning how the coding of that particular beastie works is my Sunday Project, so I'll give a progress report once I figure out how it works. Eventually, I will figure it out.
I expect someone somewhere along the line is going to want to either interject into one of my encounters or give one of these characters something unique to say to their NPC. I'm not opposed to the idea. I just want a to approve it first.
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(My head is really, really empty; it's all Harry Potter, I tell you. I'm having difficulties to fill a primitive Oracle table at work, even).
I find your sig very, very disturbing. I've been wondering for days what it is about... I wouldn't have cared about anything Harry might have to say, but Snape? Snape?
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I found time to read through the new stuff. Looks good to me. :)
I found my game discs and tried to install it on my laptop. No good. Without the needed RAM, the game lags horribly. :( Sorry.
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Or I'd just drop the first part.
If no competent native speaker comes along with a better solution, the sentence will stay as it is.
If I (being a native speaker myself) might give it a try...
The original sentence, if I'm reading correctly, is "Had Manisha looked overly modest down in the tavern, she has now turned into the complete opposite." Because you're speaking about the present (even though "has... turned" is in the present perfect tense), the most natural thing is to use the simple past ("looked") instead of the past perfect ("had... looked") when referring to a prior action.
It's easier to understand if you turn the sentence around, something like this: "Manisha has turned into the complete opposite of modest, although she (looked/had looked) overly modest down in the tavern." "Looked" sounds better there, yes? (This page (http://www.gsu.edu/~eslhpb/grammar/lecture_8/perfect.html) may provide better explanation.)
Thus I would suggest changing it to "If Manisha looked overly modest down in the tavern, she has now turned into the complete opposite." Here "if" has roughly the same meaning as "although" (and indeed, you can use "although" should you wish), and the verb in the first part of the sentence is in the simple past tense, which scans much better.
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Seconded.
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Well Clary, that looks like an excellent solution. ;D
I just got an idea for another addition to RE, and I'm throwing it to the judges before properly thinking it through, so feel free to flame it if you don't like it. My random, barely half-baked idea was entitled "The Dragon's Treasure" or something to that effect, available to the male PC. Remember Fll'Yissetat, the green dragon in Abazigal's lair? What if there was a romantic encounter with her (transformed into something humanoid, of course) as her way of saying thanks for freeing her from Abazigal's geas? Of course, one would have to resist killing her, and the fact that she's an evil, self-serving chromatic dragon would have to be ignored, but the men do kinda need more encounters to catch up with the women. Anyway, I was curious what everyone thought on the matter, and I wanted to know if it was in anyway possible(or maybe plausible would be a better word choice). If it's a totally stupid idea, fine. Just curious :P
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Go ahead and write it. Worst that can happen is that you don't like it when you're done.
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I found time to read through the new stuff. Looks good to me.
That's great, though I would still ask for specifics(that's the nasty me for you).
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Thank you, Clary! Your suggestion sounds good to me. :)
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Thank you, Clary! Your suggestion sounds good to me. :)
Always happy to break out the grammarspeak. Though to be fair, I wasn't the first to suggest it - merely the first to explain it. ;)
I'm quite curious to see the rest of the encounter now - that little snippet is very intriguing!
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Thank you, Clary! Your suggestion sounds good to me. :)
Done.
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We are, I suppose, practically ready - with only one listed submission remaining. So, if you are writing something for RE, or have written something for RE, now is your chance to have it included into v1. If you think it will be ready in a few days(as opposed to a tenday or more), please, let us know.
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If I manage to write anything, it won't be out in time for v1. In the mean time, I'm still having great fun testing. My only problem so far are all of the annoying little quests between encounters :D
If it's almost ready, I predict that everyone is going to have to stand aside to avoid being trampled in the rush to download this mod ;D If you've ever had the misfortune of holiday shopping in the same store as THAT ITEM, the hot item of the year, you know what I mean...
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Despite of what I wrote or stated elswhere I will try a go on Bjornin. It won't be in the next few days, though. End of next week sounds more realistic.
Clarion: ;D
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If it's almost ready, I predict that everyone is going to have to stand aside to avoid being trampled in the rush to download this mod
Well, they've had two months to submit stuff, and it's not like we're disappearing somewhere after v1, so.
If you've ever had the misfortune of holiday shopping in the same store as THAT ITEM, the hot item of the year, you know what I mean...
Me? No idea.
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There's always a rush to get THAT ITEM before it's sold out, and people will actually trample one another into the ground and bite and scratch to get it. It's kind of a joke that's easier to understand if you've ever been holiday gift shopping in America, where this violent phenomenon most often occurs. I've been trampled several times, and it's not pleasant.
'Spose my sense of humor also needs work. I was trying to suggest that RE was going to be the hot item of the year 8) As far as I've managed to play before Vista keeps minimizing my game, say, in the middle of the fight to tell me that my Spysweeper program has no more updates for me to review and my character dies in the meantime, I can say that RE is definitely a good mod, and if it *isn't* a hot item, I'll be surprised.
Ending frustrated rant about Vista.
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There's always a rush to get THAT ITEM before it's sold out, and people will actually trample one another into the ground and bite and scratch to get it. It's kind of a joke that's easier to understand if you've ever been holiday gift shopping in America, where this violent phenomenon most often occurs. I've been trampled several times, and it's not pleasant.
Having a 4 year old means I know exactly what you're talking about (though, thankfully, the masses of Scotland are nothing like the masses of the USA, meaning we can generally escape without serious injury ;) )
And also slightly off-topic, but Vista sounds annoying. We're debating the purchase of a new PC since our one won't run most of our new games, and the options are to stick with XP or go to Vista. Seems like XP is definitely the favourite now... :)
And back on-topic! I remember there being a mention, before, of content for BG -- and by the mention of Bjornin, am I to think that future versions, or run-along mods will have content for BG? (apologies if this was covered previously!)
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The Bjornin discussed here will be BGII material. :)
EDIT: There will be a Bjornin BG1 encounter enhancement in a to be BG1 mod of mine, if that was your question.
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Despite of what I wrote or stated elswhere I will try a go on Bjornin. It won't be in the next few days, though. End of next week sounds more realistic.
We still have Lord Logan and final testing to do, so the end of the next week sounds great to me. I don't think there's some real rush - rather, it was a "if you have something, don't hold it in your cupboard - tell us!" warning.
And, yes, Romantic Encounters is BG2 only - BG1 mod will have a different name, whether it is to be jastey's mod or someone else's. I personally don't fancy cross-platform coding, so if I do anything for BG1, I am likely to do it in Finch-like way: (Easy)TUTU support only.
@magrat: I LOVE your signature!
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Hm, it seems I can't send pm's bummer :( Oh, very very minor spoiler alert
Well, I got my new BG cd's and am now play testing so far I have had no random bug's but did find a tiny spelling error in the sheri encounter, I think. When you take her out to the dance floor it says: "You dance close, nose to none, eye to eye." Because it says eye to eye I think it's supposed to be nose to nose, or maybe I'm just misunderstanding an English proverb. WEll, even if it's a true error it's very very minor, I don't know I guess I wanted to show you that I take this seriously...I even went out of my to try and create bugs, and this is all I could find so far...KUDOS!! :D
Niaroanc
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There's always a rush to get THAT ITEM before it's sold out, and people will actually trample one another into the ground and bite and scratch to get it. It's kind of a joke that's easier to understand if you've ever been holiday gift shopping in America, where this violent phenomenon most often occurs. I've been trampled several times, and it's not pleasant.
I've heard horror stories of fatalities occurring via trampling. I've never been trampled, though someone offered me twice what I paid for a black wig at Walmart, a couple days before Halloween. It was the last one in the store. I turned him down. :)
(Note to all: please be kind to retail workers during the holidays. We have it rough!)
*steers self on-topic*
Shouldn't Anomen have a further reaction to the Desharik encounter? I know he gets an interjection, but I can't imagine him NOT getting at least a little grumpy over it.
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I still have inlaws here and one more day of goddamned Disneyworld tomorrow. Next week seems more likely for me.
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Shouldn't Anomen have a further reaction to the Desharik encounter? I know he gets an interjection, but I can't imagine him NOT getting at least a little grumpy over it.
Does he have any reason to know what actually transpired? The encounter wasn't exactly... *ahem*... protracted.
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Desharik was rough... Came out of that one feeling bruised :P Fits though.
And I'm nice to retail workers! Just not fellow customers!
Ahem... I'm attempting to write something fof Fll'Yissetat, but trying to wrap my head around the way a dragon thinks is, well, difficult.
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Shouldn't Anomen have a further reaction to the Desharik encounter? I know he gets an interjection, but I can't imagine him NOT getting at least a little grumpy over it.
Does he have any reason to know what actually transpired? The encounter wasn't exactly... *ahem*... protracted.
Well...Desharik wasn't exactly...quiet...was he? :-X Plus, the PC would probably look a little dishevelled after that little encounter. That could just be me thinking too much, though. ;D
Specifics? Hmm...I thought the scenes flowed nicely and Desharik and Edolth seemed in character. I still think Laran's encounter was hot. ;D Edwin was in typical form. Garren's encounter was rather sweet. I think the entire mod does a good job of giving NPCs a little more depth and dimension. How's that? ;D
I'm a cashier. I reeaally don't like some of my customers. ::)
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Shouldn't Anomen have a further reaction to the Desharik encounter? I know he gets an interjection, but I can't imagine him NOT getting at least a little grumpy over it.
Does he have any reason to know what actually transpired? The encounter wasn't exactly... *ahem*... protracted.
Well...Desharik wasn't exactly...quiet...was he? :-X Plus, the PC would probably look a little dishevelled after that little encounter. That could just be me thinking too much, though. ;D
Er, yes, he wasn't, and she might, indeed. But that would be up to Kulyok.
And I'm glad you liked Laran! ;D
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It's too bad it didn't work out with Jarlaxle. I would have loved a little fling with him ;)
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Okay, let me see what I got from here:
- Sheri's typo has been corrected, thank you - I'm not sure whether in this beta or the previous one, but, yes, it is fine now.
Just in case: please, check that you have private beta7 from You-Know-Where;
- added Niaroanc, Star Dragonmaiden to the credits - thank you both;
- as for Desharik, I think it was short, relatively quiet(neither of them screamed or spoke in CAPS, at least), and fade-to-black assumes PC had a time to get dressed. Besides, Desharik grabbed her arm or whatever rather roughly in the presence of all companions, demanding information, so it wouldn't look as a surprise if he hit her once or twice(which, as I remember, he didn't do). I know that a girl is capable of looking surprisingly accurate after such an encounter, if she'd really want to keep it private.
- @Catseye - please, go ahead an write it! After all, cmorgan and Evaine Dian and magrat have all made great writing-in-a-dialogue-mod debuts, haven't they?
- the end of the next week it is, then, thank you for the info(but after that, let's just release the damn thing :) )
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I have found a bug (yay for me!) since I still can't send pm's I'll write it here...highlight to read:
SPOILER, SPOILER, SPOILER alert
It's a stutter bug during the Sheri encounter when she comes to your room at night. It happend when I chose the dialogue options 3 3 4 4 2 2 4 2 the scene restarts after ending, and also happens when I interchange the final dialogue with either 1 or 3 It does not happen when I choose either 1 or 2 at the start of the conversation. I looked over the code but since I'm an utter coding newbie I couldn't find anything...I hope nobody else found this bug first... BTW the rest of the encounter is very very hawt :P
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Private Message function works like this: click at Kulyok in my message(left upper corner), choose "send a private message" option in my profile, and, well, send a private message.
I've checked, and it seems that all Sheri variables are closing nicely - perhaps we've adjusted during a later beta. What version are you using? (do not post the link, please, just a number)
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I'm using private beta 7
And I tried to do what you said , but you have to type a row of letters to send the message I tried with both ie and firefox but when I enter the letters I just return to my message without sending.
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I think you normally don't have to, if you log in to Pocket Plane forums indefinitely.
Thank you - there might indeed be a glitch, so I'll try and correct variable settings just in case.
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- @Catseye - please, go ahead an write it! After all, cmorgan and Evaine Dian and magrat have all made great writing-in-a-dialogue-mod debuts, haven't they?
Let me think about it and see what I can come up with. I'm not much of a writer, but I have read all the books about him.
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- @Catseye - please, go ahead an write it! After all, cmorgan and Evaine Dian and magrat have all made great writing-in-a-dialogue-mod debuts, haven't they?
Let me think about it and see what I can come up with. I'm not much of a writer, but I have read all the books about him.
Ok. I'll write it. But I know nothing about coding and such. I'll try my best to get it written within the next couple of days. I just can't seem to let Jarlaxle get away ;D
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This sounds encouraging. :) I'm not sure I am capable of writing more romance right now, myself, so I'd just be very glad to pack everything submitted. If you write it neatly enough(and hopefully with tiles), I'll have no problems coding it. For example:
K1
Kulyok: ~I really enjoyed watching Jo reading from the Deathly Hallows on that website.~
- ~I did, too.~ -> K1.1
- ~Which website?~ -> K1.2
- ~What is the Deathly Hallows?~ -> K1.3
- ~Phew, this book sucks. Just look at your own signature!~ -> K1.4
K1.1
Kulyok: ~Yeah, I'm kind of sad it is over.~ -> K1.5
K1.2
Kulyok: ~Scholastic. www.scholastic.com~ -> K1.5
K1.3
Kulyok: ~Harry Potter series - the latest book.~ -> K1.5
K1.4
Kulyok: ~Heh. Just wait until you read that chapter.~ -> K1.5
K1.5
Kulyok: ~Anyway, I'm supposed to be writing something else now, so see you!~ -> EXIT
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This sounds encouraging. :) I'm not sure I am capable of writing more romance right now, myself, so I'd just be very glad to pack everything submitted. If you write it neatly enough(and hopefully with tiles), I'll have no problems coding it. For example:
K1
Kulyok: ~I really enjoyed watching Jo reading from the Deathly Hallows on that website.~
- ~I did, too.~ -> K1.1
- ~Which website?~ -> K1.2
- ~What is the Deathly Hallows?~ -> K1.3
- ~Phew, this book sucks. Just look at your own signature!~ -> K1.4
K1.1
Kulyok: ~Yeah, I'm kind of sad it is over.~ -> K1.5
K1.2
Kulyok: ~Scholastic. www.scholastic.com~ -> K1.5
K1.3
Kulyok: ~Harry Potter series - the latest book.~ -> K1.5
K1.4
Kulyok: ~Heh. Just wait until you read that chapter.~ -> K1.5
K1.5
Kulyok: ~Anyway, I'm supposed to be writing something else now, so see you!~ -> EXIT
I will do my best to please ;)
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OK, I'd been on the fence with this one, but I'm going to do it (and have already half-done it).
In Ust Natha, after the PC performs a certain task for Phaere, if the PC is male, he is offered a certain opportunity. There is a deplorable lack of parity for the female PC.
Not any more.
You may well believe that Anomen will have something to say about it!
This encounter would be available to those PCs who have completed Phaere's quests, and it is compatible with the Ust Natha Accelerator of Zyraen's Miscellany. It's for a female PC who likes men.
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OK, I'd been on the fence with this one, but I'm going to do it (and have already half-done it).
In Ust Natha, after the PC performs a certain task for Phaere, if the PC is male, he is offered a certain opportunity. There is a deplorable lack of parity for the female PC.
Not any more.
You may well believe that Anomen will have something to say about it!
This encounter would be available to those PCs who have completed Phaere's quests, and it is compatible with the Ust Natha Accelerator of Zyraen's Miscellany. It's for a female PC who likes men.
Oooooh yessss! Sounds delicious! ;)
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I might be a bit late for this, but would anyone be willing to write a fling with Sarevok? I know the theory of coding but I'm still learning and focusing on making NPCs, so I doubt I'm good enough to do it myself.
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I think Pen52 was interested in writing Sarevok. If/when it is done, it is in.
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Desharik was pretty naughty ;) and that is exactly how I pictured a pirate Lord to be :D
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Okay, an update: two new components, and one new author. :) Catseye's Jarlaxle and Kulyok's Ryan Trawl.
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Whoot! ;D
Let's hear it for Catseye!
(And I've got to admit, I'm curious about SRT... but I'm sure I won't be disappointed! ;) )
I'm wrapping up the one I'm doing. I'll have the tested version in tonight.
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Um, it's not particularly cool - just a few dialogues for a female paladin protagonist. Five + two short Bodhi-related ones for Chapter 6.
I'll be waiting for the drow encounter - but it's going to be tomorrow for me. Or, rather, today, but after I've had some sleep.
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Whoot! ;D
Let's hear it for Catseye!
Aww....thanks ;D I was a little nervous to write it, since it is my first time doing anything like this. Usually I stick with the proof reading and testing. But I hope everyone likes it.
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A pre-release version, with .exe's and everything, is up. Check your PMs, please.
Thursday is the final 'checkpoint' for bug reports/content feedback/progress report for new submissions.
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Erm... Is it appropriate for the PC to have sex in the Order of the Radiant Heart? I mean... I could transfer the location to an inn...
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Brings a whole new Order of meaning to the phrase "my place, or yours?" :D
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Erm... Is it appropriate for the PC to have sex in the Order of the Radiant Heart? I mean... I could transfer the location to an inn...
If Baldur's Gate 2's core romances, and subsequent years of softcore modding, have taught us anything, it's that there is no inappropriate place for <CHARNAME> to get it on.
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It's probably safer under the watchful eye of Tyr, anyway.
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:) These posts made my morning.
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Oh, and - does anyone wish to make us a PPG banner?
(It scares me to even think about all the ideas you could put there. Besides "Romantic Encounters" and "A Gibberlings Three Mod", I mean.)
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If Baldur's Gate 2's core romances, and subsequent years of softcore modding, have taught us anything, it's that there is no inappropriate place for <CHARNAME> to get it on.
I wouldn't include temples, I have to admit, but yes. OK, so the Order it remains.
Western Paladin: LOL If seen like that, it's Helm in this case, the Ever Watchful, so it wouldn't make a difference in an inn anyway. (Creepy thought...)
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Er, yeah, not a cheery thought, no. I can just imagine the scolding very young squires must receive if they get caught misbehaving...
"You know, Helm sees you when you do that." :o
Anyway, when the Bjornin encounter for BG2 is done, that would make 39 components! Wow!
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There're 37 currently. I'll be very happy to include Ajnos' when it's done(especially after what I've seen of it), and jastey's, too, but I'll just mention it so there's no pressure.
(Naturally, 39 is better than 37, when we speak of our authors. :) )
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(It scares me to even think about all the ideas you could put there. Besides "Romantic Encounters" and "A Gibberlings Three Mod", I mean.)
A very happy Hendak.
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Judging by my calculations, Jerdol should propose Hendak Mod again around this time, so I suggest we save the guy for that modification. :)
My idea was a heap of clothes: you know, a leather jacket, some red Cowled Wizard Robes, a pair of panties, Sim's boxers - anyway, stuff. And then "Romantic Encounters" on top of it. But I guess it's more funny than sexy.
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Might be perfect, actually. Throw in a lorica, a gauntlet, and maybe a thong, and you're all set.
Or... one of those signs you hang off hotel room doorknobs with "Romantic Encounters" on it...
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A very happy Hendak.
This is the second time I have the impression you begrudge the poor man his fortune with se vimin.
(Being the author of that component I am desparately trying not to take it personal.)
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Or... one of those signs you hang off hotel room doorknobs with "Romantic Encounters" on it...
Brilliant! I love this idea.
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A very happy Hendak.
This is the second time I have the impression you begrudge the poor man his fortune with se vimin.
(Being the author of that component I am desparately trying not to take it personal.)
I think he just likes Hendak, personally. ;)
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Or... one of those signs you hang off hotel room doorknobs with "Romantic Encounters" on it...
Brilliant! I love this idea.
Me too, btw. I think it's genius.
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I think he just likes Hendak, personally. ;)
They're out of vogue now, but yes, I think he would be a good object lesson for one of those "Everything I need to know about life I learned from <blank>" posters.
- Free ze vimmin at your earliest opportunity
- Always be grateful
- If you inherit a new business venture, be sure to keep some of the previous professionals around to help you learn your way around.
etc.
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@jcompton: Absolutely! Can we make posters like that? "Everything I need to know in life I learned from Hendak" has a nice ring to it...
Just a thought...
Can we do something along the lines of "Anath's Last Kiss"? After either agreeing to stay out of her way or telling her you'll help her, can we give the male PC a chance to kiss her and wish her luck? Just curious. No idea how to write it, and wanted to know what people thought about kissing a werewolf. Makes more sense than a dragon, at any rate...
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Delainy from Tales of the Sword Coast is a werewolf, and plenty of male PCs have kissed her. I say "Sure!"
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A small update: I received a mini-submission from berelinde. Mira, a merchant from the Promenade, now has two new items to sell - a certain potion and a book of poetry. Not exactly "Big is Beautiful", but if you're too shy to buy from Ribald, she's the one.
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By the way, I'll see what I can do about that banner in a bit, but it might be better to wait until the mod is actually out before putting anything up.
Somehow, I just can't imagine a multi-frame banner saying:
Romantic Encounters/Coming Soon/at G3
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Oh, I agree, certainly not before the release. I do prefer to click at the banner and to be able to download the mod immediately - it feels very satisfying.
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Mmmhmm. I always get annoyed when I click a banner just to find that I didn't see the 'coming soon' part beforehand. Waiting until there's something to download is definitely a wise move, and one I'm sure everyone will appreciate.
@Western Paladin: Thanks for your opinion! I'm wondering, though, how many PCs will kiss a werewolf they've never met before... Having never had access to Tales of the Sword Coast, I'm running on the assumption that you've at least talked to Delainy to some extent before your character puckers up. Anath would be one heck of an impulse, considering you know only that she's mad as hell because the Shade Lord killed her pack.
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Romantic Encounters/Coming Soon/at G3
This is the second-dirtiest thing I've ever read about BG2.
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Romantic Encounters/Coming Soon/at G3
This is the second-dirtiest thing I've ever read about BG2.
Should I be proud or ashamed?
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Ideally you'd play the straight role and say, "Really? What was the first, Jason?" but that's okay.
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Actually, I'm dying to ask, but I'm afraid you'd tell me. ;)
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What was the first, Jason?
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This one goes way back. Might be from early FWP, might even be from BGDungeon... not sure.
Was just your ordinary "help what's wrong with my Jaheira romance it's stuck etc. etc.?" post. Until a certain reply showed up.
"Did you give her a pearl necklace?"
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Oh my. Such an innocent suggestion... ::)
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(wonders if we should give an adult rating to this thread)
But I did have to search for to get this one, so I'm relatively innocent.
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I'm wondering, though, how many PCs will kiss a werewolf they've never met before... Having never had access to Tales of the Sword Coast, I'm running on the assumption that you've at least talked to Delainy to some extent before your character puckers up. Anath would be one heck of an impulse, considering you know only that she's mad as hell because the Shade Lord killed her pack.
What sucked with Duryle and Delainy was that the kiss was forced: PC couldn't choose whether to step away, slap the guy, kiss him back or call for help. The smell factor is secondary, I suppose.
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I could see the kiss being forced. After all, it comes out of the blue. But I'd have given the PC a chance to slug him afterward. Thought about that with Gavin, actually, but decided that since BG1 NPC lets him leave the area as usual, I wasn't going to muck around with it.
I don't think the smell would be a factor. After all, you don't actually know they're werewolves at that point. Or at least I didn't.
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Still, to kiss an enraged werewolf - and there's no way you can't know she's a werewolf - who's just threatened to kill you... Aside from my own dear Raviel, whom I created to be mentally unstable for the fun of it, what other male PCs are insane/crazy/nutso/psychotic enough to do that? ??? Seriously, who amongst visitors to this thread has created a male PC with no self-preservation survival instinct who would be crazy/stupid enough to actually kiss Anath?
On an unrelated topic, is RE affected by wild magic? I mean, if your wild mage casts stoneskin and surges a sex change, does that effect RE? I only just thought of it because I was playing the Kelsey romance not long ago and the poor guy was either too blind or too blindly loyal to realize that his wild mage girlfriend had just turned herself into a dude (Love Kelsey, by the way. Such a sweetheart. Haven't brought him along recently because he deserves better than a gal who'll cheat on him regularly). Been trying to test this, get my mage to pull a gender-bender wild surge, but I don't know how to force a wild surge, and definitely not a specific side-effect. I'm just asking, does RE recognize your character's original gender, or the one they are currently?
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Most romance mods do not recognize the gender changes in BG2: Edwin's gender change is story-related, others are inconsequential. RE doesn't.
With Anath(or any other character, really) it depends on what the writer chooses to make of the character and the directions in which the conversation can go, I believe.
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All of the RE encounters I wrote will recognize the current gender, not the original gender, AFAIK.
Or at least I can say that I used the same check for gender that I used for Gavin's match, and he dumped a girl who was experimenting with the girdle of masculinity/femininity. (Oh, that reminds me! I need to fix it so he doesn't do that anymore. But he should comment if she's wearing BELT05... and he doesn't.)
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All of the RE encounters I wrote will recognize the current gender, not the original gender, AFAIK.
Mine, too.
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Okay. Just curious. One of my beta-testing characters is a wild mage, and I was wondering how RE would react if she happened to turn herself into a guy, is all 8)
And about Anath, I don't think I had a real conversation planned on that, just a quick kiss, wish her luck, and then she vanishes out the door like she usually does and somehow manages to beat you to the temple by about a half hour no matter how fast you get there...how does she do that, by the way?
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Yeah, my Gender(Player1,FEMALE) recognizes the current gender, too, come to think of it - though with Edwin and Haer'Dalis and Yoshimo and Teos, the player might've changed her gender seven times and they never noticed(same with Xan, really). I'd shake it off as 'minor inconvenience'.
@berelinde: I think it's "HasItemEquipped("belt05")"(and in your "You lied" dialogue, "!HasItemEquipped("belt05")") that should do the job, no?
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So, it's Thursday, checkpoint time, and a reminder I want to wrap things up on Friday, so that every author(and, if you're a tester/proofreader, you're welcome to join, too) has the last long look(and test) over the weekend.
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Bjornin is written, coded, proof-read and alphatested. Will send to you this afternoon. Could you PM me your email address? I don't seem to find it, although I thought it was mentioned somewhere.
-jastey
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Yes, berelinde told me this morning. My e-mail is in your copy of RE, but I'll PM(username is kulyok, naturally - at yandex.ru).
EDIT: My understanding was that berelinde was going to work on Bjornin today, in which case I'll naturally rather wait.
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A question: Are the reactions (Anomen, Jaheira, Aerie) which are included now the only ones or are there more, to be included in the last pre-release version? Because I thought that in comparison to all the encounters, there are only few reactions. Some encounters are rather secret, that's true, but some might need one.
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Let me know which ones you think need adding. Currently, it goes like this:
Anomen Reacts to:
Alax RE_AlaxFlirt=1
Coran RE_CoranSex=1
Gaelan RE_GaelanSex=1
Hendak RE_HendakSex=1
Ribald RE_RibaldSex=1, RE_RibaldRomanceActive=1 or 2
Saemon RE_SaemonFlirt=1
Solaufein RE_SolaufeinFlirt=1
Aerie, Jaheira, Viconia react to:
Ada RE_AdaFlirt=1
Bodhi RE_BodhiFlirt=1
Busya RE_BusyaSex=1
Chanelle RE_ChanelleFlirt=1
Ilona RE_IlonaFlirt=1
Sheri RE_SheriFlirt=1
Solaufein RE_SolaufeinFlirt=1
Aerie also reacts to Haer'Dalis encounter.
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Who's Ilona?
And just to clarify: all I did to Bjornin was a light proofread... oh, all right, there may have been some drooling involved.
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Ilona is Grim Squeaker's idea: a daughter of a merchant you save. I've put her together yesterday(probably should add this to the list, as well). Oh, and Mira has a small bit of light flirting, as we discussed.
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Coolness!
About the romance reactions, Anomen reacts to RE_LaranFlirt=1, and also to the ToB encounter, but I no longer remember the variable for that one. I'd have to look it up. It isn't included in the romance reactions component, though.
I'd probably let Anomen express concern over Desharik, but it would read a lot like Gaelan.
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1. Logan. Finished. Sent. Done(ish).
2. There need to be more ToB encounters.
3. Is Bjornin only for BGTutu?
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1. Thankish! Wait until Kulyok reads-ish!
2. My reasoning for "I'd rather write a SoA encounter than a ToB one" was that in ToB, PC is more likely to be committed to someone than not, and PC is so powerful that sex feels almost like a chore. All the same, I completely agree that writing more ToB stuff cannot hurt. "Amkethran Nights", anyone?
3. Bjonin is for BG2; besides that, I believe jastey was doing something for her own BG1 mod, as well.
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@Reactions: yes, I forgot to mention that Laran has his own extensive romantic reactions; that's mentioned in the readme, in the component itself(they were so tightly woven together that it didn't seem to make any sense to separate them).
With Desharik, I guess it's different from Gaelan in the way that they do not sleep/spend a whole night together(no "RestParty()"), and that with Gaelan, PC is very clearly trying to make out with him - you have to literally put his hand into his pants, just "Do whatever you want with me" doesn't cut it.
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My reasoning for "I'd rather write a SoA encounter than a ToB one" was that in ToB, PC is more likely to be committed to someone than not, and PC is so powerful that sex feels almost like a chore.
On second thought, I did do three ToB encounters out of existing four. BUT: they are Sendai(who is your sister really), Cambion(though you don't actually get it), and Cyric's avatar. The only 'normal' one was Laran by berelinde. This is highly embarrassing.
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I've got a ToB game running at the moment, so I shall keep an eye out on likely targets. And if I find any inspiration, I'll see what I can do for any future versions.
I did have a Viekang idea for Saradush, but it was oh-so-very wrong...
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About the only "normal" people you run into in ToB are confined to Saradush, Amkethran, and that guy you run into after your first excursion out of the pocket plane, who buys your loot, if he manages to stay alive long enough.
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I did have a Viekang idea for Saradush, but it was oh-so-very wrong...
Hmm?
I'm starting to think whether it'll be wise to say "Hmm, maybe we'll add a couple of dozen encounters, and release the whole thing a few months later?" :)
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I think, too, that there are too few encounters in ToB, but everyone I found interesting there seemed an unlikely target there. Especially in Saradush, people are all whiny. The person I found interesting was that guy in Amkethran, in the house on top of the hill, but when I had a look at his dialogue file, I think he said he was married to that girl standing next to him. :(
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Or we could just save it for v2.
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We had a mention of a separate music pack earlier in this thread - a-la BG1 NPC music pack; oggs to unpack and install. Unfortunately, using music(PlaySound command) in PC-initiated dialogue will cause bad stutter, so we can't use it there. However, in NPC-initiated dialogue(Manisha's dance, Saemon, Laran in his room) it is technically possible.
I also suspect that using already existing IE game theme(Anomen romance music, Annah's theme from PS:T, IWD battle music) or well known pop/classic/Pirates of the Carribean soundtrack(which mod was it that used Cardigans' "My favourite game" as game music?) might not be the best idea, given how much great Celtic, traditional, original, folk or BG-ish freeware compositions are available.
Anyway, here is the list of encounters where it is NOT technically possible to play music AT ALL:
Cambion, Chanelle, Coran, Cyric, Dryad, Elhan, Firkraag, Gaelan Bayle, Hendak, Lais, Noober, Ryan Trawl
In all others, it is possible, whether in all dialogues(Haer'Dalis), or after cutscene - bed scenes only(Saemon).
What I mean to say it, if you would like to use a particular composition for your encounter, and we have more than, say, ten, we(that is, I :) ) can quickly put together a music pack for v1. Otherwise, we leave it for later.
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I did have a Viekang idea for Saradush, but it was oh-so-very wrong...
Hmm?
Well. You have the option to have some degree of civilised banter with him as he explains why he's stuck there, and for a moral-lacking PC, one way to comfort him would be to drag him off to the nearest room. And of course, if you wanted to do a good deed and terrify the poor guy into escaping, there's always the Slayer change when the action, ahem, heats up.
It's so very wrong :) And sometimes I wonder about the thought processes in my head...
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In all others, it is possible, whether in all dialogues(Haer'Dalis), or after cutscene - bed scenes only(Saemon).
I got that jaunty pirate tune the first time I... um, tested Saemon. It was hilarious, and I thought it was intentional, but it didn't happen again. (Which I know, because I'm very thorough like that.)
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I hope I manage to post what I mean without giving any spoilers.
Desharik: Given the nature of this encounter, people might notice that there is something "wrong", maybe not (only) Anomen, but (also) Mummy Jaheira. I think someone suggested this before.
Eldoth: Wouldn't people wonder if you just rent a room and vanish? People who know him from BG1 might want to know what he had to say or suspect something. He's quite fishy, isn't he?
Manisha: If you managed to stay through the entire show, people (doesn't really matter if romance interests or not) might want to comment about where you stayed for so bloody long --> hint hint, nudge nudge.
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Might be, yes. I'd steer clear of adding non-romance-interests' reactions whenever possible, because given how they're normally silent during the most important events of the game, it might feel out of place if they comment on you disappearing for a few minutes.
I'll try and add interjections for Eldoth/Desharik. With Manisha, I wonder if it's such a big deal, disappearing for a short while to watch her dance - as opposed to, say, bluntly going upstairs/downstairs to sleep with Busya/Bodhi or dancing with Sheri in Jaheira's presence, or repeatedly sleeping with Ribald. I think not, because if it is, we'll have to add reactions for practically every single encounter.
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The point was raised that Anomen might express concern that the PC was disheveled, and that the encounter was not likely quiet. Kulyok pointed out that a PC who was determined to keep it private might have had time to pull herself together and that it might not have been that loud.
If there are no objections, I've already got a rough draft of something that I was working on before the "no Ano reaction for Desharik" was stated. I'll give it a quick polish and get it off in a PM in an hour or so. It works for a variety of PCs. After that, use it or not, dealer's choice.
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Well it's a cliche, but you could always add a random person in Saradush who doesn't want to die a virgin (or dye for that matter...).
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Might be, yes. I'd steer clear of adding non-romance-interests' reactions whenever possible, because given how they're normally silent during the most important events of the game, it might feel out of place if they comment on you disappearing for a few minutes.
Immy and quite a lot of people interject/comment on Coran, too. And they've probably met Eldoth before, too, so... I don't quite see a difference between these two encounters.
With Manisha, I wonder if it's such a big deal, disappearing for a short while to watch her dance - as opposed to, say, bluntly going upstairs/downstairs to sleep with Busya/Bodhi or dancing with Sheri in Jaheira's presence, or repeatedly sleeping with Ribald. I think not, because if it is, we'll have to add reactions for practically every single encounter.
I'm pulling my own leg here. :)
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Immy and quite a lot of people interject/comment on Coran, too. And they've probably met Eldoth before, too, so... I don't quite see a difference between these two encounters.
Oh, an interjection is fine, I'll see where I can add some.
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Well it's a cliche, but you could always add a random person in Saradush who doesn't want to die a virgin (or dye for that matter...).
Cliche, but cool.
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It seems I found a bug present in a pre-release version ;)
If you choose to attack Desharik during the time when you're left alone the party members are stuck with blue feet circles. BTW is it really necessary to use that HOLD_PARTY spell on them. It's not like they're gonna do anything during the dialogue/cutscene anyway.
On another note in Alax's dialog there's an instance of using "charname" without the proper brackets.
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Right, I'll check Desharik. And, yes, this is the fourth report on "charname" - I fixed that, thanks a lot.
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Oops.
Hang on... I just did a thorough search of Alax's dialogues, and I couldn't find a single instance of CHARNAME or charname or Charname in the file I sent, with or without the brackets. Was this added dialogue?
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On another note in Alax's dialog there's an instance of using "charname" without the proper brackets.
Wherever that comes from, it should be Veldrin anyway, me thinks.
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It's Jarlaxle. :)
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It's those silly drow, with their strange affinity for letters that fall in the last quarter of the alphabet.
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Well, RE is fraught with strange coincidences. :) Such as your Ada, Aimi and Alax strangely all beginning with "A" - and coincidentally, being the first ones in the list of components.
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Yes, and the post was addressing the issue - it should take a couple of days.
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Well, RE is fraught with strange coincidences. :) Such as your Ada, Aimi and Alax strangely all beginning with "A" - and coincidentally, being the first ones in the list of components.
Hmmm. Didn't think of that. Just picked names! Wouldn't mind changing Alax's name, but I'm terrible at thinking up names. I've been just opening the FR Campaign Setting to page 12 and picking a short one.
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Myth-drannor.net is dead(it had an excellent elven/drow name guide), but you could try the archive:
http://web.archive.org/web/20061106003609/www.myth-drannor.net/DlabraddathNet/z-Cormanthyr/Name+generator.htm
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I've incorporated berelinde's Anomen talk for Desharik, added a few recognition interjections for Eldoth, fixed that Desharik "held party" bug and added one more component: I just read Nymphology(thanks again, Grim!) and it had so many giggles about erotica arcane that I decided to go for it. Watch PC entering a very brief apprenticeship - if she accepts Mekrath' offer.
Sleepy. And my boss met me in the office kitchen and asked me how, er, documentation was doing. It wasn't doing well, let me tell you. I'd better do some decent work on it tomorrow. I also should code Lord Logan - and oh, my... but you'll see, soon. :)
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I just read Nymphology(thanks again, Grim!) and it had so many giggles about erotica arcane that I decided to go for it. Watch PC entering a very brief apprenticeship - if she accepts Mekrath' offer.
I really hope this doesn't end with the player activating Mekrath's wand of magic missiles...
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I really hope this doesn't end with the player activating Mekrath's wand of magic missiles...
Just a wand of magic missiles? Certainly he has at least a wand of wonder, being a mighty mage and all...;) And maybe it'll explain the rod of resurrection he's got stashed away! ;)
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Here's one ToB idea-the priestess in the temple in Saradush. Not sure if the temple's to any deity in particular, so you might as well go nuts and make it a temple of Sharess. ;D
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Ah, Nymphology. Making campaigns very interesting, very awkward, or some combination thereof since 2003.
They really should put warnings on books like that.
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Here's one ToB idea-the priestess in the temple in Saradush. Not sure if the temple's to any deity in particular, so you might as well go nuts and make it a temple of Sharess. ;D
*checks InfExp*
Problem is, the priestess specifically says it's a temple of Waukeen :)
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Doesn't mean the PC can't get lucky... er, that's Tymora, isn't it?
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That's an update and not really an update at the same time:
- I got Bjornin from jastey this morning(thank you, jastey!) - and together with Lord Logan, I should integrate them both, when I get back from work. Tonight(or Friday morning for you, depending where you are) I hope to put together the Really Last version, so we all enjoy it over the weekend. This also means that content-wise, version 1 is complete.
(And yay, for jastey did an adult encounter! Hide in shame, ye magi of Thay, for nothing can withstand the passion of a paladin!)
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Version 1 all done?! YIPEEE!!!!
If I recall correctly, and with as much sleep as I've gotten lately, don't take my word on this without double-checking, Waukeen is kinda missing, and Tymora's providing the clerical power in the meantime, so, berelinde, your statement, I think, is absolutely correct ;D
And who'll take the bet that the magi of Thay aren't nearly as talented as they say they are? After all, in my experience, at least, the more you brag, the less you've got to brag about. Then again, considering that Edwin's still one of our favorite boy-toys, maybe I should stick to my day job and stop gambling ;)
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Waukeen is kinda missing, and Tymora's providing the clerical power in the meantime, so, berelinde, your statement, I think, is absolutely correct ;D
Oddly enough, I had exactly the same thought.
But the priest of Waukeen in Trademeet says it's Lliira, goddess of Joy, that fills in for Waukeen instead. Ah, well.
...Really looking forward to this mod in any case.
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I've just uploaded the final version. Have a good weekend, everyone. :)
If the link isn't in your PM box, and you think it should be there, please, post here or PM me. Also, if you're thinking: "Hmm, what should I do this weekend?" then testing Romantic Encounters might just be your thing. Join us!
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Also, if you're thinking: "Hmm, what should I do this weekend?" then testing Romantic Encounters might just be your thing. Join us!
I need something to do this weekend :)
May I join in on the fun? (If testing can ever be considered fun)
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I assure you, it's fun. The components should be fully functional by now and as far as I know, there are only minor issues left (meaning typos). Playing the encounters in game is much more fun than just reading the files, as you might have guessed.
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Please PM me! I'd love to join in the testing!
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Ankhesenpaaten, LiT, welcome to the fold. Please have cold showers on hand in preparation for fire extinguishing ;D Some of the components are HOT, and spontaneous combustion is absolutely garaunteed! On that note, I'll stop spoiling it for you... :P
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Ankhesenpaaten, LiT, welcome to the fold. Please have cold showers on hand in preparation for fire extinguishing ;D Some of the components are HOT, and spontaneous combustion is absolutely garaunteed! On that note, I'll stop spoiling it for you... :P
Ooooh ooooh I'm so excited I keep checking here every few minutes hoping for the link. Thanks for the welcome and I'll certainly welcome the utter hawtness of RE! ;D
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Just don't get worried if steam randomly starts pouring from your ears ::)
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Having read this thread I expect more than a little steam, heh.
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Good morning, and good news! Messages sent, and welcome to the world of RE. :)
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I played the Laran component (although only SoA), and oh my, he is sweet! I giggled over some reply options (mostly those I didn't chose), and his answers and reactions felt so real and natural. Looking foreward to seeing the ToB part some day, unfortunately I don't have the time to play the whole game right now. EDIT: Oh, and the voicing was excellent. I am jelous. :)
I tested Hendak, Bjornin and Solaufein (my components) and couldn't find any bugs.
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Cool, thank you very much!
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Is it 'honor' or 'honour'? I thought it was 'honor' and used it. But I'm scanning the .d files and seeing 'honour' and 'travelling'... so which? Also, favoured.
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"Travelling" might well be a spelling mistake even in American English, and it's one I make all the time myself.
As for honor/honour, I used American spellings because BioWare does, for the most part, but I do not know if other contributors did the same.
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It is my understanding that berelinde, Evaine Dian and jastey have asked not to change their stuff under whatever circumstances, so, unless it is a grammatic/formatting error, which it isn't, it remains.
I try to use American spellings whenever I can, myself(Xan, for one). Fixed 'travelling' in Edwin, though, but I'm not terribly fussed about British/American stuff: the game itself isn't very consistent, besides, Dave Gaider said more than once that he often uses British spelling, because he likes it. (Oh, and I like magrat's British style, but that's just me).
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Okay, thank you. I don't mind one or the other, but both bug me... especially now that I've noticed. :) I really should've used 'honour' myself then, it looks better.
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Adjusting the language to the BGII style is typo/grammar change in my eyes. :) If there are inconsitencies feel free to correct.
For further changes, I am always happy to receive suggestions on how to improve my contributions and want to encourage everyone to propose their ideas; but I would like to decide and implement any changes myself.
Which reminds me:
Catseye, sorry for not having responded earlier. As far as I understood, you would like to see an option where Solaufein would be able to enjoy the encounter. I had quite a few thoughts about it, but I just don't see how this could be implemented into my Solaufein encounter; plus I see him as someone who does not enjoy these kind of things (in one of his dialogues, he says, that he does not approve the services offered in the tavern / lust chambers). So, I canceled the thought. As it is now, the best thing for Solaufein would be to reliese him from his services. ;)
If anyone wants to write a more Solaufein-pleasant encounter I'd happily try it out, though.
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Like Jastey, I have no particular objection to changes. In fact, there have already been quite a few changes suggested, even down to renaming two of the characters just so that the first three components on the install weren't mine! I haven't refused a single alteration. I just want to know about them, and be given the opportunity to review and approve any proposed changes in advance.
Obvious typographical/spelling/grammatical errors are exculded from this, of course.
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Okay, then, please, if you would like your encounters adjusted to American English("apologize","honor" and so on), please let me know, I'll do it at once.
I have just received a bug report about Aimi: she follows PC out of the tavern(because her script makes her follow the PC), and because of that, her tavern encounter misfires - she doesn't appear in PC's room. Cutting the script allows everything to proceed as normal - it's just PC has to approach her first.
Also, I have *finally* tested the same encounters with and without HOLD_PARTY, and it seems like they indeed work fine without it - and that the players won't send heaps of "my party cannot move! blue circles!", if I cut it from cutscenes. So - I'm all for making it easier.
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Okay, then, please, if you would like your encounters adjusted to American English("apologize","honor" and so on), please let me know, I'll do it at once.
If this is BGII style, please go ahead, in case berelinde was trying to preserve me pseudo English style (I assume she is using American English when doing the translations herself). Sorry for talking about you in third person, berelinde. I myself I am at a loss with these things, so I am grateful if other people help me, as I like my texts to be consisent.
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I have just received a bug report about Aimi: she follows PC out of the tavern(because her script makes her follow the PC), and because of that, her tavern encounter misfires - she doesn't appear in PC's room. Cutting the script allows everything to proceed as normal - it's just PC has to approach her first.
I hadn't considered the possibility that the PC might walk over to get close enough for her to see the PC and then walk out of the tavern. Well, I guess folks will try anything. Oh, well, it would have been nice to have her give the fangirl rush. Go ahead and cut it. :(
@Jastey: yes, I use American English out of habit, but if you'd prefer British English spellings, I'll switch.
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Okay, thank you - I'll adjust the spelling and cut the script.
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Hang on a second. There is nothing in her script that makes her follow the PC! She walks over to him once. Then she does a random walk. Please send me a copy of the bug report via PM, because I don't think that's what's causing it. So hang on a second before you cut that script!
Or if you have already cut it, I can resend it. I would like it in there until I've seen the report, at least.
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I use British spelling by default -- I do notice it when others use American versions, but it's one of those cases of noticing it, but not being overly bothered by it at all. If you want to change anything I've done to be different to how it is, that's fine by me :)
I'd try and use Americanised spelling by default, but I'd be dreadful at it because I'd probably forget to change half the words I should.
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I've lots of backups, so I can restore it in a second.
It's this:
See(Player1)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
MoveToObject(Player1)
StartDialogueNoSet(Player1)
END
so it works like this:
- 1) Aimi sees PC and moves to him;
- 2) PC doesn't notice(he doesn't want to talk to her/he doesn't know she exists/he just came to talk with Busya/Manisha/that Bhaalspawn guy/whatever);
- 3) Aimi follows PC out and her first dialogue happens outside(or maybe even inside some other building, if she keeps following PC!);
- 4) Aimi doesn't follow PC back to AR2010, naturally. As such, MoveBetweenAreas doesn't work at rest, and she doesn't appear in our custom room.
@magrat: okay, will do.
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So, not a tester bug report, or even really a bug, but a preference to avoid interference with other encounters that take place at the same location.
That's different. And that makes it all right to cut the script, although I do so grudgingly. As I said, it made good sense given the nature of the encounter for her to approach the PC. When the enounter was written, it was the only encounter taking place at that location, so it didn't matter. Now, since Busya and Manisha use the location as well, I suppose I'm going to have to accomodate that.
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No, it doesn't have anything to do with other encounters.
PC enters the tavern. The girl heads to him, but he exits before she is able to initiate talk. He exits, the girl exits and talks. She is no longer in AR2010. When, later, PC retires in AR2010, expecting this girl, Aimi, she does not appear in this room, if she is waiting outside of AR2010.
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FWIW, I think about 80% of the Dynaheir Quest problems with Drizzt not reactivating are due to this kind of player usage - I have detemined that the only truly "safe" way of getting a player to do what you need them to do is to do it as a cutscene, like Silke in Beregost. I am currently researching borrowing/ extending Kulyok's cutscene scripting and adding it to the Drizzt reactivation, so that the player doesn't wander the map and exit while Drizzt is frantcally trying to get to him using MoveToObjectNoInterrupt(Player1)...
so if you want that script, I would suggest taking over the player actions and running it via cutscene :)
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Upon researching IESDP, it turns out that MoveToObject indeed sucks here. Replacing these two lines with Dialogue(), however, does exactly[what we want]:
IF
Global("RE_TalkedToAimi","GLOBAL",0)
!Global("loganjob2","GLOBAL",2)
Global("RE_MetPC1","GLOBAL",0)
See(Player1)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
Dialogue(Player1)
END
IF
Global("RE_TalkedToAimi","GLOBAL",0)
Global("loganjob2","GLOBAL",2)
See(Player1)
THEN
RESPONSE #100
Dialogue(Player1)
END
IF
!AreaCheck("ARRE03")
THEN
RESPONSE #100
RandomWalk()
END
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Changing it to Dialogue() would work. There isn't a trigger in that first dialogue that would make her go to his room. That's available after talking to her a second time, so letting her say her bit wouldn't interfere with having the other encounters play out as desired. Also, she would continue to stand around indefinitely, so the PC could meet Busya/Manisha if he prefered, and then wait until later to go talk to Aime.
When I placed the NPCs for all of these encounters, I was careful to choose locations that were unused by other components of the mod. Please understand that while I am less than enthusiastic about diluting the content of the encounter to accomodate later additions, I do understand the need to account for them. As I said, I have already changed the names of two of the NPCs to accodate your desire not to have the first three components in the installation all written by me. I'd really like to keep the spirit of a star-struck country girl rushing up to greet the heroes intact. Using Dialogue() would allow that.
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Okay, for the third time: MoveToObject(which you used) made a creature(Aimi) exit the tavern, but not for ARRE03, but to the big city - AR2000 - the main Trademeet area. Which made her unavailable for her own encounter - when PC fixed a date with her, then went to the barman and rented a room, Aimi didn't spawn in ARRE03. Other encounters don't play a role here.
I fixed the script, as you can see above, and it now works as it should - Aimi doesn't exit the tavern into Trademeet, she approaches the PC, but she doesn't follow the PC out of the tavern and into the big world. Er, not that I expected thanks or anything, but you are welcome. :)
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Yes, that is true, and I do understand how MoveToObject() works. Yet it would probably not have been an issue in the absence of other encounters in the area. That was how it was discovered, no?
Anyway, the problem is solved.
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@Jastey: yes, I use American English out of habit, but if you'd prefer British English spellings, I'll switch.
On the contrary; if American is the BGII standerd then I prefer this.
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As far as I'm aware of - (my knowledge is based on CamDawg's posts) - BG2 spelling is American, with a few British exceptions - Fixpack Game Text Update changes these to American spelling, too. Again, I don't think it's a big deal, though it might be something nice to have. Currently, Manisha/Ribald have some British expressions; I changed 'honour' to 'honor' and the like in Busya/Coran/Hendak/Elhan/Edwin/Eldoth, though.
I've taken special care to see if RE has any potential conflicting issues - not just between components, but with all mods. I don't mind if nine ladies have arranged a meeting in the same tavern, or that Irenicus NPC keeps ordering drinks next to Sheri, but I don't want any technical overlaps. And I think no, we're not likely to have any - we're either adding new characters(Laran, Manisha, Rebecca), or leaving the opportunity to return to the same dialogue(Saemon), or COPY_TRANS'ing back(virtually everyone; I have now added it to Aran, too).
Potentially, Teos might - there're new replies that lead back to the same states as original ones do - so with some _really_ elaborate planning, one could think of something totally incompatible. We're also adding a 'general' script to Ribald during flirting(so that Brelm's boasts do not initiate every time Ribald's conversations do), so if some mod occupies this slot for whatever reason, they're doomed. Hopefully not in both cases, though.
Ideally, one should be able to install, say, seven different Aran Linvail encounters, and all seven should work. My guess is we've been successful in this regard, but it remains to be seen.
I'll be away tomorrow, but, please, keep sending me stuff - I'll fix it tomorrow night, then. And if you're not sending stuff, but just enjoying the mod(or not enjoying it, for some reason) - that's cool, too.
{You're not stealing anything, because RE is in the best state it has ever been in! (c)}
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I just wanted to wonder aloud if we'd get 10000 views, but Sim's thread (http://forums.spellholdstudios.net/index.php?showtopic=19516&hl=) beats all: 500 pages and 10000 posts. Meh. I'll go and be envious now.
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This topic does have more replies than any other, though. :)
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I just wanted to wonder aloud if we'd get 10000 views, but Sim's thread (http://forums.spellholdstudios.net/index.php?showtopic=19516&hl=) beats all: 500 pages and 10000 posts. Meh. I'll go and be envious now.
This topic does have more replies than any other, though. :)
Come now!! Give yourselves some credit, people!! You have over 25 pages of replies (twenty-eight and counting!!), so I'd say that's not bad at all... :D
PS. I don't think I'll be able to make it for the last v1_Pre 2 version, I was absolutely too busy, with absolutely no gaming time. That means I don't get to "test drive" Mira, Mekrath, Bjornin or Lord Logan... :(
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Oh, but certainly - you've helped so much already. Best of luck in your RL.
I've updated the first post. Testing is complete; if you have bug/typo reports in the next eighteen hours, please, PM these to me, but, basically, that's that.
And thank you, all of you who posted, e-mailed and PM-ed. Your feedback is just so appreciated... well, you have an idea, I am sure. Ajnos, Angua, berelinde, Catseye, Clarion, cmorgan, Cygnea, Eleima, Evaine Dian, jastey, Lady Fiana, LiT, mac402, magrat, Niaroanc, Star Dragonmaiden, RavenBlack, Western Paladin - thank you all very much. Oh, and if your name isn't in here, and it should be - please, tell me at once, and I'll add you to the credits.
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Thank you so much for initiating, coordinating and putting so much effort into this mod! I never thought my Hendak romance would ever see the light of day, and , erm, I never thought I'd deliver an adult encounter, either. :)
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You're welcome. :)
I feel if anything, I should say thank you to all the authors for the effort you've all put into making this mod! :)
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Which reminds me:
Catseye, sorry for not having responded earlier. As far as I understood, you would like to see an option where Solaufein would be able to enjoy the encounter. I had quite a few thoughts about it, but I just don't see how this could be implemented into my Solaufein encounter; plus I see him as someone who does not enjoy these kind of things (in one of his dialogues, he says, that he does not approve the services offered in the tavern / lust chambers). So, I canceled the thought. As it is now, the best thing for Solaufein would be to reliese him from his services. ;)
Jastey,
I agree with you completely.....after really thinking about it, I can see why Solaufein wouldn't be too happy about his ex sending him to the lust chambers ;) Thanks for the reply though :)
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And thank you, all of you who posted, e-mailed and PM-ed. Your feedback is just so appreciated... well, you have an idea, I am sure. Ajnos, Angua, berelinde, Catseye, Clarion, cmorgan, Cygnea, Eleima, Evaine Dian, jastey, Lady Fiana, LiT, mac402, magrat, Niaroanc, Star Dragonmaiden, RavenBlack, Western Paladin - thank you all very much. Oh, and if your name isn't in here, and it should be - please, tell me at once, and I'll add you to the credits.
Kulyok,
Thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to be a part of RE and not to mention all the time and effort that you put into this. ;D
I think everyone involved has done an exceptional job.....it's something to be proud of. :)
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No kidding! I'm only partway through a game and already I am loving it. Laran is so precious and I hope for a happy ending with him after TOB, Ribald is fun (though I have not yet had more than one encounter), Hendak is sooo sweet, Renal was soooo hawt, and I can't wait to see what happens with Eddie and Yoshi. Oh, and Anishai was really really nice! All of the writing is wonderful and I can't wait to go on. I only ran into a couple of problems that I've let Kulyok know about and I don't know if it is RE or a mod conflict. It may be that 2 encounters firing at once overwhelmed things, but I've had another like that and it ran just fine. Oh well, I am doing another type of pc and moving on. Well done everyone! :)
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Yeah, we're, like, awesome! And exceptional. I like 'exceptional'.
Ahem. Anyway, I probably should once again clarify some (last-minute) things, just so there're no questions:
- we've been discussing that "once a submission is in, it can't be pulled" and such, and it still remains true. However, Manisha was added to the closed beta under a 'let's see how it works in closed beta, and if the author is not wholly satisfied, we'll pull it out' condition - and yesterday, I got the e-mail from the author with the request to pull Manisha out. Because of it, she will not be in v1.
- after v1 is released, I'll still be happy to incorporate your submissions. After eight or ten or so new components are in, I'll apply for releasing v2. (Or earlier, if there're some serious game-stopping bugs).
- if, some time after v1 is released, you'd like to add something to your existing submissions, please, e-mail/PM me. If these are going to be small changes, please, give me a list(add replies into these states, adjust writing here and here), and if you'd like to, say, append several banters or an extra encounter with the character, please, just give me new files to append to/to incorporate with the old ones.
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if the author is not wholly satisfied, we'll pull it out
This is surely the giggliest mod of all time.
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Oh. I swear it was not intentional, but now I'm giggling like a schoolgirl. ;D
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Still giggling.
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I'd like to interrupt the giggle-fest for a second to thank everyone involved for the opportunity to participate; it's been nice.
by all means resume now
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It has, indeed. It feels kinda stressful at times, though - I'm not used to be responsible, I guess. I do wonder how Domi managed BG1 NPC, at times.
And giggling feels good, too. Actually, I think I know whom I'd like to ask to write a RE announcement...
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The development process is finished - I have wrapped the final version.
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if the author is not wholly satisfied, we'll pull it out
This is surely the giggliest mod of all time.
;D
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:) I have alerted CamDawg, everyone. The doom is near.
(Now I'm wondering if saying "That's us, Romantic Encounters, and we're finished!" in my message was a good idea...)
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Yay!
(And: ROFL ;D)
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The forum is up! :)
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And Kulyok in bed, I guess.
(Don't you dare making a joke out of that one!)
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I think you just did it for me.
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If it's not too late to join in the giggling, I think I'd like to ;D
And the thanking. It's been an honor testing this mod. Fun, too. Now I can't wait to see if someone writes a fanfiction about this...
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:) We're not fully released yet, but we have a forum, yes. Please, continue
giggling posting here for the time being.
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Pitty I came across this so late.
This one is original and entertaining enough that I would try to force past my writers block to help (assuming I would be welcome).
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Yes, I'm happy to say v1 is done - but, sure enough, as I said above, version 2 will be released eventually; I think ten new contributions will do it. If you get something together(preferably coded) - please, send it along to me via PM or e-mail(e-mail should be in the mod's tp2 when it's released).
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I might just do that (after sampling v1, naturally). Rather flattered that you would consider adding/review a submission by me.
We don't always seem to see eye to eye on mods, and such, but I have always resepcted your level of quality control/bugfixing.
Of course this all depends on my real job, time, and all that.
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Released.
Website: http://www.gibberlings3.net/romanticencounters/
Forum: http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showforum=131
Readme: http://www.gibberlings3.net/readmes/Readme-RE.txt
As a Russian proverb goes: "Thanks to this house, now let's go to another." - that is, thank you very much for having us here. :)
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Yeah. Go take <CHARNAME> and <PRO_HISHER> chlamydia to a new house already.
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And we managed to reach page 30, too!
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And I won't even be able to ask the players "How much do we suck?", come to think of it...
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No, it might be better if you don't ask the players that. ;D
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Neither "do we rock", plz.
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What's the deal with this one? :)
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I thought we did! Kulyok said so! :(
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Oh, we all rock and then some, most definitely. :) I was just wondering how 'we rock' and 'sex' are connected, because they so obviously have to be - in this thread.
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What's the deal with this one? :)
Is this my ESL understanding? I meant the movement... No, please, I won't explain that one. We do rock, yeah!
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;D Okay, let's go over to G3, before I have to ban myself.
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(sigh) Original content edited out. It wasn't related to RE or any participants thereof.
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Waukeen is kinda missing, and Tymora's providing the clerical power in the meantime, so, berelinde, your statement, I think, is absolutely correct ;D
Oddly enough, I had exactly the same thought.
But the priest of Waukeen in Trademeet says it's Lliira, goddess of Joy, that fills in for Waukeen instead. Ah, well.
There's a bit of a mix-up in BG2, since Waukeen's priest in Trademeet says Lliira is the one filling in, but Waukeen's priest in Amkethran says it's Tymora.
Lliira is the correct answer in core AD&D.
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Ah. Alrighty then. Just another typo Bioware should remember to correct, then ::)
Lliira it is! Thanks for catching that...