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Title: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on January 12, 2006, 12:53:40 PM
Hello -

The alternate distribution of Tutu that was recently discussed in another thread is now available for download.

http://www.usoutpost31.com/easytutu

One thing that concerns me is that I didn't have access to an "old school" (i.e., 5 BG CDs + TotSC CD) version of Baldur's Gate -- I developed it using Baldur's Gate: The Original Saga.  If there is anyone out there who currently has the US Windows versions of the original 5 CD BG1 + TotSC installed (as well as BG2, obviously), I would very much appreciate it if you'd try it out and let me know if it works (what I am worried about is the installer possibly demanding the presence of BIFFs that somehow aren't included in the non-TOS release, or the non-TOS release using a different directory structure so that the installer can't find the BIFFs, things like that).  I'll feel better if someone tests it and says it works in that environment.

Feedback is welcome.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: MacReadyfan! on January 12, 2006, 01:54:42 PM
Damn, you know v6 + v16b works really well. Is there a possibility that you will do this awesome, incredible and brilliant mod into this form too?
Or are you just gonna start working on this version from now on.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on January 12, 2006, 03:09:05 PM
Hello -

Damn, you know v6 + v16b works really well. Is there a possibility that you will do this awesome, incredible and brilliant mod into this form too?
Or are you just gonna start working on this version from now on.

So long as Tutu v6 carries a "beta" designation, no.  Beta status means frequent updates while development is active, which necessitates access to the WeiDU installer for Tutufix (there is no way to "roll back" the Tutufix core bug fixes in an "EasyTutu" install).  Also, the "EasyTutu" distribution has game stability as one of its main goals -- distributing a beta version sort of violates the spirit of the undertaking. :)
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Andyr on January 12, 2006, 03:28:30 PM
I'd like to point out that, while a cool idea, this is not (yet?) something the Tutu team has worked on so any tech issues might not be stuff we can resolve easily. :)

Unless, Sim/Ghrey, you guys have and have kept quiet?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on January 12, 2006, 03:36:44 PM
Hello -

I'd like to point out that, while a cool idea, this is not (yet?) something the Tutu team has worked on so any tech issues might not be stuff we can resolve easily. :)

If the Tutu folks would rather it didn't exist, I'll pull it.  It was made to make Tutu more accessible to computer novices and to address many of the recurring issues that come up in the forums (Dudleyfix issues, incomplete installs of BG1, etc).  But I don't want to step on any toes, as I indicated in the other thread.

I do hope you give it a try before passing judgement, though.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Borsook on January 12, 2006, 04:05:27 PM
(Dudleyfix issues
Do I get it correctly and this version works ok with Dudleyfix? Doesn't tutufix collide with them?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on January 12, 2006, 04:14:30 PM
Hello -

Do I get it correctly and this version works ok with Dudleyfix? Doesn't tutufix collide with them?

It doesn't work with or include Dudleyville fixes.  But if your original BG1 installation has them installed, that will NOT cause problems.  They will be ignored, continue to function properly in vanilla BG1, but will not be present (and will not cause problems) in your EasyTutu installation.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Andyr on January 12, 2006, 05:39:23 PM
I'd like to point out that, while a cool idea, this is not (yet?) something the Tutu team has worked on so any tech issues might not be stuff we can resolve easily. :)

If the Tutu folks would rather it didn't exist, I'll pull it.  It was made to make Tutu more accessible to computer novices and to address many of the recurring issues that come up in the forums (Dudleyfix issues, incomplete installs of BG1, etc).  But I don't want to step on any toes, as I indicated in the other thread.

By no means am I saying it is a bad thing, far from it. :) Stuff to make Tutu easier to use and mod on is a definite plus. I'm just saying if someone uses it and they experience an error, it may not be an error Sim, Ghrey or the rest of us know how to fix (until we've had a chance to look at your work more closely).
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on January 12, 2006, 06:11:25 PM
Hello -

By no means am I saying it is a bad thing, far from it. :) Stuff to make Tutu easier to use and mod on is a definite plus. I'm just saying if someone uses it and they experience an error, it may not be an error Sim, Ghrey or the rest of us know how to fix (until we've had a chance to look at your work more closely).

Well, it shouldn't cause any extra problems (and quite the opposite, hopefully -- it is intended to be quite stable!).  There is very little difference between a Tutu4+CoreFixes15 install and an EasyTutu install.  EasyTutu lacks the bg1tutu and tutufix folders and setup programs, and uses a rewritten CHITIN.KEY (only the strings section rewritten, such that the BG1 path strings reference subfolders of the Tutu install folder rather than BG1 folders -- still the exact same number and order of files and resources).  It also includes my Friendly Arm Nobleman fix (.CRE edited so that he possesses MISC47 instead of _MISC47, as Tutufix attempted to patch but didn't) and a fix for the corrupt quickslot icon of the Wand of the Heavens.

It's not fundamentally different or innovative because I lack the Infinity engine knowledge to do anything tricky.  Decoding CHITIN.KEY and writing a program to rewrite it is really the only rabbit I had in my hat.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Andyr on January 12, 2006, 06:18:07 PM
Well, that's good to know. Well done for your efforts this far!
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on January 15, 2006, 09:31:10 AM
Hello -

I now have confirmation that EasyTutu works fine with the original 5 CD + TotSC CD BG1, so that's good to know.

Also, the same person made an inquiry that merits a mention in this thread: EasyTutu does not include the "de-greenifier," because that feature isn't present in Fixpack v15.  I am not sure why it was pulled from Fix v15 (and I'm not sure if it used to be bundled in the core bug fixes component), but since EasyTutu is equivalent to Tutu4+Fixpack15 core bug fixes, you will still have green water with 3D acceleration.

Thanks to the user who provided me with the feedback, it was very much appreciated.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Dregor on January 21, 2006, 05:05:44 PM
Hey, first thanks for this easy install.  My head is absolutely swimming trying to keep things straight.

I installed EasyTutu, and went to install the fixpack.  While reading the readme for it, it mentions "BEFORE INSTALLING THE FIXPACK, PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE INSTALLED THE APPROPRIATE BALDURDASH FIXPACKS OVER BOTH YOUR BG1 AND BG2 INSTALLS BEFORE RUNNING THE TUTU CONVERTOR".  I'm just wondering if this is still necessary?  And if so, where is the best place to get the most recent one of these?

Thanks
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on January 21, 2006, 06:08:26 PM
Hello -

Hey, first thanks for this easy install.  My head is absolutely swimming trying to keep things straight.

I installed EasyTutu, and went to install the fixpack.  While reading the readme for it, it mentions "BEFORE INSTALLING THE FIXPACK, PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE INSTALLED THE APPROPRIATE BALDURDASH FIXPACKS OVER BOTH YOUR BG1 AND BG2 INSTALLS BEFORE RUNNING THE TUTU CONVERTOR".  I'm just wondering if this is still necessary?  And if so, where is the best place to get the most recent one of these?

By "fixpack," do you mean Tutufix?  If so, remember to skip the core bug fixes component, as EasyTutu has them pre-installed already.

EasyTutu comes pre-Baldurdashed.  No worries on that count.

EasyTutu had a glitch in versions downloaded prior to today where the Start menu shortcut for Tutu could be non-functional.  If your Start menu shortcut for EasyTutu does not function, you may start Tutu by double-clicking BGMain.exe in your EasyTutu folder (or just create a new shortcut to BGMain.exe in the EasyTutu folder).
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Dregor on January 21, 2006, 09:15:02 PM
Hello -

Hey, first thanks for this easy install.  My head is absolutely swimming trying to keep things straight.

I installed EasyTutu, and went to install the fixpack.  While reading the readme for it, it mentions "BEFORE INSTALLING THE FIXPACK, PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE INSTALLED THE APPROPRIATE BALDURDASH FIXPACKS OVER BOTH YOUR BG1 AND BG2 INSTALLS BEFORE RUNNING THE TUTU CONVERTOR".  I'm just wondering if this is still necessary?  And if so, where is the best place to get the most recent one of these?

By "fixpack," do you mean Tutufix?  If so, remember to skip the core bug fixes component, as EasyTutu has them pre-installed already.

EasyTutu comes pre-Baldurdashed.  No worries on that count.

EasyTutu had a glitch in versions downloaded prior to today where the Start menu shortcut for Tutu could be non-functional.  If your Start menu shortcut for EasyTutu does not function, you may start Tutu by double-clicking BGMain.exe in your EasyTutu folder (or just create a new shortcut to BGMain.exe in the EasyTutu folder).

Great, that's what I needed to know (that it comes pre-Baldurdashed).  I skipped the core fixes with tutufix, so I guess I should be gtg.  Just going through the list of mods you said were stable.  Very appreciative of that.  I may also try out the banter mod I saw.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Styphelus on February 12, 2006, 11:18:34 PM
I want to have 2 installs of BG2. One for Tutu and for for actual BG2 and TOB.

Now, is there any difference if I just install BG2 without TOB for my Easy-Tutu install? Just trying to save some HD space by not installing TOB for Tutu. or does Easy  TUTU use any extra components components from TOB?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on February 13, 2006, 07:59:08 AM
Hello -

I want to have 2 installs of BG2. One for Tutu and for for actual BG2 and TOB.

Now, is there any difference if I just install BG2 without TOB for my Easy-Tutu install? Just trying to save some HD space by not installing TOB for Tutu. or does Easy  TUTU use any extra components components from TOB?

You wouldn't save too much disk space by taking this approach, because EasyTutu doesn't clone the BG2 content resources.  In other words, almost all of the ToB-specific stuff would only exist in the BG2 installation anyway.

However, if you wanted to try it, I think you can do it.  At SP, someone demonstrated that EasyTutu is not 100% independent of the parent BG2 installation -- when that parent installation isn't present, they fail to get the intro Black Isle, Bioware and WOTC movies, and they fail to get the opening BG1 movie with Sarevok and the little wimpy paladin guy.  Everything else (including other in-game movies) worked fine.  I don't think a SoA-built EasyTutu would stumble if the parent installation had ToB installed, but I did want to mention that EasyTutu is not 100% independent of its BG2 parent.  To do it, here's how to install:

* Full install of BG1+TotSC
* Patch BG1
* Install SoA
* Patch SoA
* Install EasyTutu_SoA
* Install ToB
* Patch ToB

Again, if it was me, I'd install and patch ToB first and then use the ToB version of EasyTutu, because ToB content (and most of BG2 content) is not copied by EasyTutu, and thus the disk savings from a SoA EasyTutu would be small.

To answer your other question, ToB-specific engine features (such as TAB key highlighting) would be absent in a SoA EasyTutu.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Styphelus on February 13, 2006, 07:11:12 PM
What about Organized Journal Entries from Tutufix 15? Do I install that or is that included with Easy Tutu? Easy Tutu just says not to install the core fixes but doesn't mention anything about journal entries.

And what's the Journal Entry titles component? Not sure what that is. Can't remember BG2. Should I install that as well?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on February 13, 2006, 08:02:21 PM
Hello -

What about Organized Journal Entries from Tutufix 15? Do I install that or is that included with Easy Tutu? Easy Tutu just says not to install the core fixes but doesn't mention anything about journal entries.

And what's the Journal Entry titles component? Not sure what that is. Can't remember BG2. Should I install that as well?

You are welcome to install anything you want from Tutufix on top of an EasyTutu installation, except for the core bug fixes.  Skip them, since they are already included in EasyTutu.  As for the rest of Tutufix, it's purely a matter of preference.  If it sounds good to you, go for it.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Kraptor on February 15, 2006, 04:55:25 AM
Hello I can confimr too that easytutu works fine with the original 5Cd + TotSC. Actually for me it worked better then original tutu+tutfix, for some reason tutufix didnt update.

Anyways, I have encountered 2 problems. One is that water all over the world is green and cant fix this, there is an option that you could tick if you have this kind of problem(green water) but I cant tick that, dunno why.

Also you mentioned there can be corrupt saves around Beregost. I havent encounterd those yet but I ve envountered game crashes round Beregost.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on February 15, 2006, 07:24:36 AM
Hello -

Hello I can confimr too that easytutu works fine with the original 5Cd + TotSC.

Thanks for taking the time to let me know -- I was definitely nervous about not having been able to test that distribution.

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Anyways, I have encountered 2 problems. One is that water all over the world is green and cant fix this, there is an option that you could tick if you have this kind of problem(green water) but I cant tick that, dunno why.

The simplest answer is to run the BGConfig program in your EasyTutu folder and disable 3D acceleration, or edit the BALDUR.INI in your EasyTutu folder and find the line that says ...

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3D Acceleration=1

... and then change the 1 to a 0 and save.  3DA does almost nothing for the visual presentation, except for causing the water in Tutu to be green.

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Also you mentioned there can be corrupt saves around Beregost. I havent encounterd those yet but I ve envountered game crashes round Beregost.

Well, I think they are different facets of the same issue.  Did you crash as you were leaving?  That's generally how it would happen to me, and if I tried to load the autosave made as I left, I'd find it to be corrupt.  If you follow the savegame advice on the EasyTutu page, you should be able to avoid the unpleasant situation of losing a lot of progress in your game.

Thanks for the feedback!
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Kraptor on February 15, 2006, 08:54:02 AM
Yes happend the same way except I had no problem loading back the Auto-save file.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on February 15, 2006, 09:00:09 AM
Hello -

Yes happend the same way except I had no problem loading back the Auto-save file.

Just make sure that you are able to re-enter Beregost after you've left.  Some people have returned at a later time and found themselves unable to enter Beregost (game crashes every time).  That's why I recommended saving in a different slot after leaving, reloading and attempting to re-enter Beregost, and then reloading and continuing if everything worked.  Establishing your ability to re-enter should mean Beregost will be fine the next time you visit.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Kraptor on February 15, 2006, 11:18:08 AM
Yes, I can reenter, though I did what u suggested on your site when i first entered Beregost.

I couldnt get rid off the green water effect though. I did what u suggested but no luck.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on February 15, 2006, 11:45:30 AM
Hello -

I couldnt get rid off the green water effect though. I did what u suggested but no luck.

Which did you do, run BGConfig or edit the INI?  Did you remember to run/edit the one in your EasyTutu folder?  Running the BG2 copy of BGConfig, using the BG2 shortcut to BGConfig, or editing the BG2 INI will turn off 3DA for BG2, not for EasyTutu.  You must call up your EasyTutu folder (C:\Program Files\BaldursGateTutu by default) in either My Computer or Windows Explorer, and edit that INI, or double-click the BGConfig.exe in that folder.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Styphelus on February 15, 2006, 01:04:30 PM
This is what I did for the green water:
 I extracted the files for BGFix 13 into my Tutu game folder. then went into the tutufix folder and double clicked on tutu3dwater.bat

All done. Worked like a charm.

However, I can't run my game at 1024 res with 3D acceleration - the screen just starts flashing. Not sure why. Works fine at 800x600.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on February 15, 2006, 01:10:33 PM
Hello -

However, I can't run my game at 1024 res with 3D acceleration - the screen just starts flashing. Not sure why. Works fine at 800x600.

I've always thought the 3DA feature of BG2 was poorly implemented -- it barely does anything and it has all kinds of problems.  I have had problems with it working at all, at any resolution.  I think it has something to do with my specific video card / driver.  So, I still recommend disabling it. :)
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Kraptor on February 15, 2006, 04:27:05 PM
Ok, it is working now but the water's animatin effect is real annoying with 2D...gives me seziures:):)

Ive treid that water3dupdate but it didnt work for me.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Caswallon on February 17, 2006, 11:58:19 AM
Heya,

is there any reason why the English versions of the game are singled out as requirements?
Or just "I couldn't test with international versions"?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on February 17, 2006, 12:00:41 PM
Hello -

is there any reason why the English versions of the game are singled out as requirements?
Or just "I couldn't test with international versions"?

Yes, I couldn't test with international versions; and anyway, you are going to get an English language DIALOG.TLK with EasyTutu.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Caswallon on February 17, 2006, 12:11:27 PM
Ah, okay, thanks. :)

Does it check for the language and halt installation? Say, if I wouldn't care about getting an English game, will it allow me to install?
(Sorry to not try it out for myself, but I'd have to reinstall both games... :))

Just curious: Why do you include the TLK?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on February 17, 2006, 12:25:06 PM
Hello -

Does it check for the language and halt installation? Say, if I wouldn't care about getting an English game, will it allow me to install?
(Sorry to not try it out for myself, but I'd have to reinstall both games... :))

You are welcome to try it.  It will not touch your BG1 and BG2 installations in any way, so if there is a problem you can uninstall EasyTutu and move on (EasyTutu installs as an separate, third installation).

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Just curious: Why do you include the TLK?

Game stability.  EasyTutu is essentially a pre-converted installation of Tutu 4 + Tutufix 15 core bug fixes, done in optimal conditions.  EasyTutu delivers this optimal conversion directly, which translates into a Tutu installation that is immune to many commonly problematic issues (Dudleyfix problems, lack of Baldurdash problems, etc).
Title: New Version Available.
Post by: Macready on February 18, 2006, 05:38:50 PM
Hello -

A new version of EasyTutu was released today.  The EasyTutu page has the details and the download.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Styphelus on February 20, 2006, 12:29:01 PM
What exactly has changed.

I just installed Easy Tutu a week ago with the previous version. Does this new one add anything new? Should I go throul all the trouble of re-installing everything all over again?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: icelus on February 20, 2006, 12:44:12 PM
If you got Tutu installed and working one way or another I don't think there's any need to reinstall.  EasyTutu, unless I'm mistaken, is simply an easier way to install Tutu, but doesn't add any new content.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on February 20, 2006, 12:58:28 PM
Hello -

What exactly has changed.

I just installed Easy Tutu a week ago with the previous version. Does this new one add anything new? Should I go throul all the trouble of re-installing everything all over again?

There's a change log linked on the EasyTutu page.

It's just some new bug fixes added, for the most part nothing you couldn't get from the pinned "Some Fixes ..." thread in the Bugs/Support forum.  I finished my run through Tutu, so I rebuilt EasyTutu to include every fix I'd made along the way (I omitted the few tweaky things I did).
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on February 20, 2006, 12:59:28 PM
Hello -

If you got Tutu installed and working one way or another I don't think there's any need to reinstall.  EasyTutu, unless I'm mistaken, is simply an easier way to install Tutu, but doesn't add any new content.

Exactly right.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Styphelus on February 20, 2006, 03:52:42 PM
Thanks. I missed the change log. It's a bit hidden heheheh....I had already added all those fixes.

But has anyone noticed how quiet these forums are? I remember when Tutu first came out (it was version 3 when I first dicovered it), the activity was crazy. Speaks volumes about how far Tutu has come. No bugs to report I guess.

Just been away for a while but finally made some time to get back to BG.

Over at the BGT forums, those poor guys still keep posting bug after bug. I was actually looking forward to it but as I found out the hard way, it's still a long way from being perfect.

Than found Easy Tutu and found myself in BG heaven. Great job!
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on February 20, 2006, 04:11:17 PM
Hello -

Than found Easy Tutu and found myself in BG heaven. Great job!

Thanks for the kind words.  Although it is the Tutu people responsible for the BG heaven part...EasyTutu just makes it easier to get there.  Stairway to heaven?  Ugh, did I really just type that?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Ian on February 21, 2006, 08:15:45 PM
Shadow Keeper doesn't work for me, is this just me, or is it Tutu itself, or just from this new variant?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on February 21, 2006, 08:41:34 PM
Hello -

Shadow Keeper doesn't work for me, is this just me, or is it Tutu itself, or just from this new variant?

Point Shadowkeeper to your EasyTutu installation by choosing Settings -> Installation Directory ... from the menu bar.  Works great for me.

EDIT: (default installation path for EasyTutu is C:\Program Files\BaldursGateTutu, if you are having trouble remembering the folder to which you installed it)
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Necaradan666 on March 04, 2006, 03:42:07 PM
Would it be safe to run EasyTutu on an already Baldurdashed ToB installation or should I wait until EasyTutu is up and running before using the Fixpack on my fresh patched ToB game?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on March 04, 2006, 09:28:53 PM
Hello -

Would it be safe to run EasyTutu on an already Baldurdashed ToB installation or should I wait until EasyTutu is up and running before using the Fixpack on my fresh patched ToB game?

It's fine either way.  No harm at all in Baldurdashing first.  Don't mod your BG2 installation until EasyTutu setup is complete, though.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Necaradan666 on March 05, 2006, 05:04:53 AM
I found the Baldurdash Fixpack and the GameTextUpdate for BG1 won't install after I had installed EasyTutu. Something changed in the registry perhaps??. I had to extract the files and and throw them in my BG1 override manually. Just incase you want to know ;)

Other than that EasyTutu seems to be running great
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on March 05, 2006, 07:52:47 AM
Hello -

I found the Baldurdash Fixpack and the GameTextUpdate for BG1 won't install after I had installed EasyTutu. Something changed in the registry perhaps??. I had to extract the files and and throw them in my BG1 override manually. Just incase you want to know ;)

Interesting -- I appreciate you telling me.  I would chalk it up to a flaw in the Baldurdash delivery mechanism, as EasyTutu does not modify any BG1 or BG2 registry keys, and does not modify anything in the BG1 and BG2 installation directories.  To verify this, you can examine the files in your BG1 directory, which won't have changed, or view the registry key EasyTutu uses to find BG1, which is likewise unchanged and still present at: (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DirectPlay\Applications\Baldur's Gate).

I can say that EasyTutu installs Tutu using InstallShield, and I see that BG1 does as well (there is an uninst.isu file in my BG1 directory).  If Baldurdash is doing something like looking for the program last installed by InstallShield, that is a flawed methodology.  But whatever it is doing, it can't be too sophisticated, since it essentially just a self-extracting EXE.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: icelus on April 16, 2006, 12:11:25 PM
Finally got around to using EasyTutu to install:  Most Excellent.  :)

One minor suggestion, if it's possible--can an option be given for placing an icon on the desktop in addition to the Start menu?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on April 16, 2006, 02:35:35 PM
Hello -

Finally got around to using EasyTutu to install:  Most Excellent.  :)

One minor suggestion, if it's possible--can an option be given for placing an icon on the desktop in addition to the Start menu?

Good idea -- I'll add it to the to-do list.  I am actively working on the next version, but there's quite a bit to be done, so it will be a while yet.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on April 17, 2006, 10:23:59 PM
Hello -

One minor suggestion, if it's possible--can an option be given for placing an icon on the desktop in addition to the Start menu?

Coded.  Will be in the next version.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Kraptor on April 18, 2006, 07:30:49 AM
Havent been checkign this forum lately, but been playing with EasyTutu a lot in the last couple of months. Here are some "bugs" that Ive noticed maybe they have been already corrected.

Sometimes monsters despawn. This is mostyl noticable at later in game but it is there. You start to fight with them then boom they depop and you cant find them. If you are lucky they will respawn. Also the sewer under BG is a bit graphically bugged, there are water tiles all over the place.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on April 18, 2006, 08:34:19 AM
Hello -

Sometimes monsters despawn. This is mostyl noticable at later in game but it is there. You start to fight with them then boom they depop and you cant find them. If you are lucky they will respawn.

If you are talking about actual monster spawning itself, this is already fixed.  The latest version of EasyTutu features a completely revamped spawn system.

I'm also aware of a bug with the BG2 engine in which monsters can disappear when they are fighting or chasing you.  In my experience, this is very rare.  But it is an engine bug and not fixable by anyone except Bioware.

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Also the sewer under BG is a bit graphically bugged, there are water tiles all over the place.

I did a test runthrough of all three sewer maps both with and without the degreenifier, and everything looks fine in my installation.  Perhaps you could post a screenshot?  Also, are you using the degreenifier?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: wanderon on April 19, 2006, 10:40:30 AM
I installed tutu quite some time ago (v 4 w fixpack 13) and then reverted to "normal" to play BG2. Since then I have added quite a few mods to BG2 but otherwise have not done anything to my original Tutu installation. If I want to install Easy Tutu now (so I can play both BG1 tutu and BG2) I am guessing I need to uninstall everything - and reinstall BG1 and BG2 + patches and then install Easy Tutu?

Once that is done will I be free to add additional mods to the BG2 installation without effecting Tutu??
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on April 19, 2006, 11:04:25 AM
Hello -

I installed tutu quite some time ago (v 4 w fixpack 13) and then reverted to "normal" to play BG2. Since then I have added quite a few mods to BG2 but otherwise have not done anything to my original Tutu installation. If I want to install Easy Tutu now (so I can play both BG1 tutu and BG2) I am guessing I need to uninstall everything - and reinstall BG1 and BG2 + patches and then install Easy Tutu?

Once that is done will I be free to add additional mods to the BG2 installation without effecting Tutu??

For EasyTutu, you need a full install of BG1 and TotSC.  If you still have your full, patched install of these from before, you are OK on the BG1 front.

You need a clean, patched installation of BG2 or BG2/ToB, full installation recommended.  Since you have modded BG2, I would in fact suggest that you uninstall BG2, delete its folder, and then reinstall/patch it.

Once that is done, go ahead and install EasyTutu.  Once EasyTutu is installed, you are free to uninstall BG1.  Furthermore, EasyTutu and BG2 are two separate, entirely independent installations, so each can be modded separately, and what you do to one will not affect the other.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: wanderon on April 19, 2006, 12:20:57 PM
Hello -

I installed tutu quite some time ago (v 4 w fixpack 13) and then reverted to "normal" to play BG2. Since then I have added quite a few mods to BG2 but otherwise have not done anything to my original Tutu installation. If I want to install Easy Tutu now (so I can play both BG1 tutu and BG2) I am guessing I need to uninstall everything - and reinstall BG1 and BG2 + patches and then install Easy Tutu?

Once that is done will I be free to add additional mods to the BG2 installation without effecting Tutu??

For EasyTutu, you need a full install of BG1 and TotSC. If you still have your full, patched install of these from before, you are OK on the BG1 front.

You need a clean, patched installation of BG2 or BG2/ToB, full installation recommended. Since you have modded BG2, I would in fact suggest that you uninstall BG2, delete its folder, and then reinstall/patch it.

Once that is done, go ahead and install EasyTutu. Once EasyTutu is installed, you are free to uninstall BG1. Furthermore, EasyTutu and BG2 are two separate, entirely independent installations, so each can be modded separately, and what you do to one will not affect the other.

Gotcha - that simplifies matters some since I can leave my BG1 install as is - the only downside would be losing my current modded game in BG2 and I suppose I could try moving a couple saves from that game to my stash folder and copying it back in after instaling Easy Tutu and then reinstalling the BG2 mods I have. Thanks!
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Andyr on April 19, 2006, 05:52:57 PM
Wow, Wanderon, you still exist. :) I thought you maybe vanished after Ashford City or wherever. Remember your name from Interplay boards (and maybe BIS, though that was a Long Time Ago when I was a n00b).
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Caswallon on April 20, 2006, 05:21:43 AM
Hello -

Does it check for the language and halt installation? Say, if I wouldn't care about getting an English game, will it allow me to install?
(Sorry to not try it out for myself, but I'd have to reinstall both games... :))

You are welcome to try it.  It will not touch your BG1 and BG2 installations in any way, so if there is a problem you can uninstall EasyTutu and move on (EasyTutu installs as an separate, third installation).

Sorry that it took so long. ;)
Works flawlessly with non-English installations. :)

If I would create a normal Tutu: BG1, TOSC, Patch; BG2, ToB, Patch; Tutu; Tutufix 15 - would I get an identical TLK to yours, or did you change something else?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on April 20, 2006, 07:39:57 AM
Hello -

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Sorry that it took so long. ;)
Works flawlessly with non-English installations. :)

If I would create a normal Tutu: BG1, TOSC, Patch; BG2, ToB, Patch; Tutu; Tutufix 15 - would I get an identical TLK to yours, or did you change something else?

Both my BG1 and BG2 installations included the Baldurdash GTU prior to conversion.  Furthermore, there is one string added to the end of my TLK as part of a bug fix, and a number of game text updates done as part of my ongoing updates, as mentioned in the 07 March 2006 changelog:

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All past and present bug fixes (and future ones as well) now include game text updates to improve the grammar and to correct any inaccuracies in the descriptions.

The next version of EasyTutu will feature a working journal in the Prologue, and a fully "BG2-ized" game journal which makes use of the Quests / Completed Quests sections, and erases Quests entries for quests which have been completed.  Quite a large number of game text updates, and some new additions, are occurring as part of this work.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Caswallon on April 20, 2006, 08:20:00 AM
Okay, thanks. :) If there were no additions to the TLK, it would've been easy to provide non-English TLKs with an identical setup.
Do you, maybe, keep an exact log of what you added where? (Minor changes or changes like the journal sorting that don't affect string order in the TLK are nothing to care about; what's relevant are additions to the TLK and changes to existing strings which alter the meaning.)
If not, then I'll let that go. :)
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on April 20, 2006, 08:40:56 AM
Hello -

Okay, thanks. :) If there were no additions to the TLK, it would've been easy to provide non-English TLKs with an identical setup.
Do you, maybe, keep an exact log of what you added where? (Minor changes or changes like the journal sorting that don't affect string order in the TLK are nothing to care about; what's relevant are additions to the TLK and changes to existing strings which alter the meaning.)
If not, then I'll let that go. :)

Almost all of my GTU work involves a STRING_SET to an existing strref to touch it up, without changing its meaning.  So in the case of the current version of EasyTutu, it's really just the one string added to the end you'd need to deal with.  The next version of EasyTutu will have quite a few additions to the end.

Just be careful in swapping out TLKs.  The slightest little difference somewhere could ruin the entire game.  Also, keep in mind that EasyTutu-SoA and EasyTutu-ToB have vastly different TLKs (because the starting point is the BG2 TLK, which differs between SoA and ToB).
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: wanderon on April 20, 2006, 05:25:16 PM
Wow, Wanderon, you still exist. :) I thought you maybe vanished after Ashford City or wherever. Remember your name from Interplay boards (and maybe BIS, though that was a Long Time Ago when I was a n00b).

Indeed I had been hanging around IE forums so long at one point that I was voted to be an "ent" :D

and as you can see the rumors of my demise have been grossly exaggerated altho as you can also see I have changed in some small ways - of particular note here might be the fact I have "grown past" my long time overall aversions to 3rd party mods for the IE games...;)

Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: J on April 20, 2006, 06:40:28 PM
So Glorious!

Easy Tutu is exactly what I was looking for. I love that it installs into a seperate BGTUTU folder. Now I can mod BG2 without having to reinstall everything everytime. Perfect

Thanks again
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Kraptor on April 25, 2006, 03:41:55 PM

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Also the sewer under BG is a bit graphically bugged, there are water tiles all over the place.

I did a test runthrough of all three sewer maps both with and without the degreenifier, and everything looks fine in my installation.  Perhaps you could post a screenshot?  Also, are you using the degreenifier?

Here is the shot:

http://www.pleso.hu/junk/bgtutu.jpg

Also I am playing playing BG2 now and anyone know any mods that changes the item description tells you the armor penalties, hide penalties, casting, etc. REmoves the helmet from the characters and changes the casting animation to IWD1s casting animation. I had these mods with my Tutu and would love to bring them over to Bg2 but so far I havent found these.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Salk on April 26, 2006, 10:45:13 AM
Macready,

do you think it would be possible in the next version to have EasyTuTu import automatically the BG1 Music (unless it already does it) so that many users will realize that TuTu can support the original, beautiful soundtrack ? Thanks!
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on April 26, 2006, 10:54:04 AM
Hello -

do you think it would be possible in the next version to have EasyTuTu import automatically the BG1 Music (unless it already does it) so that many users will realize that TuTu can support the original, beautiful soundtrack ? Thanks!

EasyTutu has always used the BG1 music.  It is copied in from the BG1 folder during the cloning part of the installation.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Salk on April 27, 2006, 06:55:40 AM
Thanks for making it clear! I have one more question...How does Easy TuTu relate to the upcoming G3's BG2 Fixpack ? And what about BG1 WeiDu Mods ? Can we just install them before running Easy TuTu as we used to do with TuTu 4 ?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Grim Squeaker on April 27, 2006, 07:50:01 AM
Thanks for making it clear! I have one more question...How does Easy TuTu relate to the upcoming G3's BG2 Fixpack ? And what about BG1 WeiDu Mods ? Can we just install them before running Easy TuTu as we used to do with TuTu 4 ?

Well Macready can correct me if I'm wrong but I assume you just install it on your BG2 install prior to the conversion, and then EasyTutu will use your nicely patched BG2 install as the basis for its EasyTutu install.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on April 27, 2006, 07:52:54 AM
Hello -

How does Easy TuTu relate to the upcoming G3's BG2 Fixpack ?

The fixpack will most likely be incorporated at some point.  But really, spells and innates are about the only BG2 things to affect Tutu seriously.

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And what about BG1 WeiDu Mods ? Can we just install them before running Easy TuTu as we used to do with TuTu 4 ?

You can install them, but they will not carry over.  I have absolutely zero interest in this sort of thing.  In my opinion, the conversion should be done "clean" and then modded to taste once it is complete and stable.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on April 27, 2006, 07:56:18 AM
Hello -

Well Macready can correct me if I'm wrong but I assume you just install it on your BG2 install prior to the conversion, and then EasyTutu will use your nicely patched BG2 install as the basis for its EasyTutu install.

Actually, this is incorrect.  Although you are welcome to install it on BG2, it will not be included in EasyTutu until steps are explicitly taken to include it (which will most likely happen soon).
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Grim Squeaker on April 27, 2006, 08:11:53 AM
Hello -

Well Macready can correct me if I'm wrong but I assume you just install it on your BG2 install prior to the conversion, and then EasyTutu will use your nicely patched BG2 install as the basis for its EasyTutu install.

Actually, this is incorrect.  Although you are welcome to install it on BG2, it will not be included in EasyTutu until steps are explicitly taken to include it (which will most likely happen soon).

Errr... would you mind explainly why it doesn't work?  I mean EasyTutu still uses japh's WeiMorph Tutu converter, which takes a BG2 install and a BG1 install, converts the BG1 resources and puts them in BG2.  However, with EasyTutu it doesn't just take an existing BG2 install and copies the appropriate stuff into a new folder (the EasyTutu install)?

So, why wouldn't the patched spells/innates/etc be carried across?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Valiant on April 27, 2006, 08:14:55 AM
Hi guys, don´t  know if somebody had already posted this, but I can´t run EasyTutu on my comp. I have two new clean instalations, BG2: ToB and BG1: ToTSC, both patched with latest patches. Only difference due to EasyTutu readme is that my BG2: ToB is czech version. When I run my EasyTutu, it´s saying something like: Error copyinglicense.txt, stops the conversion and finish the installer... Any clue what the f..k does it mean..??

Valiant aka Kiski, 3dstudio master... ;D
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on April 27, 2006, 08:15:53 AM
Hello -

I mean EasyTutu still uses japh's WeiMorph Tutu converter

No.

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However, with EasyTutu it doesn't just take an existing BG2 install and copies the appropriate stuff into a new folder (the EasyTutu install)?

It takes the vital resources needed for the game to run, but not the override, which is where all of the fixpack work will have been deposited.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Grim Squeaker on April 27, 2006, 08:19:32 AM
Hang on.  You're saying it takes 'vital resources' but that must include spells etc.  Does that mean you use external copy commands, when surely it would make more sense to use WeiDU/WeiMorph ones that would include patched version?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on April 27, 2006, 08:19:48 AM
Hello -

Hi guys, don´t  know if somebody had already posted this, but I can´t run EasyTutu on my comp. I have two new clean instalations, BG2: ToB and BG1: ToTSC, both patched with latest patches. Only difference due to EasyTutu readme is that my BG2: ToB is czech version. When I run my EasyTutu, it´s saying something like: Error copyinglicense.txt, stops the conversion and finish the installer... Any clue what the f..k does it mean..??

Valiant aka Kiski, 3dstudio master... ;D

I don't explicitly support non-English versions, since I don't have them to test with.  But if you don't mind getting to a command prompt in your BG2 folder, typing dir > out.txt, and then posting the contents of the text file here, I'll take a look.  There is probably more fat that could be trimmed from what I am attempting to copy over.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on April 27, 2006, 08:22:28 AM
Hello -

Hang on.  You're saying it takes 'vital resources' but that must include spells etc.  Does that mean you use external copy commands, when surely it would make more sense to use WeiDU/WeiMorph ones that would include patched version?

By "vital resources" I mean data folder BIFFs.  Also, Tutu uses converted BG1 spells anyway (although that may change in the future).
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Silk on April 27, 2006, 09:35:20 AM
While I suspect this is not recommended, I did install EasyTutu over an already (albeit lightly) modded BG2 game. The BG2 game has a couple of test mods on it.  (I did have Mac on IRC to help out with any problems.)

Tutu is working fine, nothing appears wrong or out of place and I can switch from BG1 to my testing version of BG2 easily.  Note: BG1 was modded after the conversion.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Valiant on May 05, 2006, 12:41:39 PM
Heh, I finally discovered why the EasyTutu didn´t want to install on my czech BG2 ToB instalation. Simply just needed to create file called license.txt in main BG2 instalation directory and after that it worked like a charm... I don´t even get broken savegames in Beregost area...I´m happy.

That´s all. End of message. Will destroy self in 5 seconds... ;D

Valiant  ::)
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on May 05, 2006, 01:40:08 PM
Hello -

Heh, I finally discovered why the EasyTutu didn´t want to install on my czech BG2 ToB instalation. Simply just needed to create file called license.txt in main BG2 instalation directory and after that it worked like a charm... I don´t even get broken savegames in Beregost area...I´m happy.

Is it that your Czech version doesn't include a license.txt, or that you deleted it?

In any case, I've updated the installer for the next release such that an error copying that particular file will be non-fatal.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Valiant on May 13, 2006, 12:08:44 PM
Yes, that´s it, czech instalation doesn´t include this file, so I had to create a blank one... Dunno, if other foreign language instalations have it, but czech definetly simply doesn´t .... But now it´s working...
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Kilivitz on May 14, 2006, 03:52:19 PM
Not sure this is the right topic to, but I just wanna congratulate you all.

I wanted to play BG1-ToB all over again and after giving Tutu4 a try, I also tried BGT. The latter appealed to me because I liked the idea of playing the whole saga without having to switch games. However, some things eventually turned me off (not that I don't appreciate their work though, just a matter of taste), like the fact that the intro vid for SoA still played, and the main screen with Elminster (why couldn't they do something like Tutu has, a BG1 ToB-style screen? I might be shallow, but those little things matter to my game experience. I'm not a big fan of things that scream "MOD!" so the better a mod will blend with the official product, the more I'll probably enjoy it. I also heard a lot about the transition between BG1 and SoA not being that good (haven't played it myself, anyway). I will also pass on the opportunity of visiting Watcher's Keep right after leaving Candlekeep.  :P  ;D

Anyway, I just tried Easytutu and it looks damn great. The BG1 GUI is genius and the loading screens are gorgeous. Really really cool. Now I finally feel like I'm playing BG1 without the little things that were so much worse in comparison to the BG2 engine.

I got a couple of questions too, but will post those in the appropriate topic.

For the 34675859264th time: congrats on the amazing work. Looking forward for V6 already.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: aliss77777 on May 18, 2006, 10:30:58 PM
can i just say thank you to whoever made easytutu b/c this mod is the shiznit!!! i am trying bg1 again and it's sooo fun. good work everybody!
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Neverwinterx on May 22, 2006, 08:34:25 AM
At the end of the install with easytutu i got a message that some files were corrupt and that i should download a fresh copy and retry.
Also when i try to start the easytutu bg it gives the following error message: An assertion failed in Chitin.cpp at line number 1628
Programmer says: Error initalizing key table, bad key file
And yes i have bg1+totsc(3cd version) fully installed and bg2+tob, patched, and i used tob easytutu version.
Help plz? :p
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on May 22, 2006, 08:44:47 AM
Hello -

At the end of the install with easytutu i got a message that some files were corrupt and that i should download a fresh copy and retry.
Also when i try to start the easytutu bg it gives the following error message: An assertion failed in Chitin.cpp at line number 1628
Programmer says: Error initalizing key table, bad key file
And yes i have bg1+totsc(3cd version) fully installed and bg2+tob, patched, and i used tob easytutu version.
Help plz? :p

You almost certainly need to uninstall, re-download, and reinstall.  I'll check the ToB release on the server, but I did do a full install with both last night prior to releasing them, so I think this is probably just a problem with your download.

EDIT: I just checked the package on the server; everything was fine.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Neverwinterx on May 22, 2006, 09:12:01 AM
ah nvm thanks, it was the no cd crack on bg2 i had that screwed it up :P
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Keigos on May 27, 2006, 05:27:23 PM
Hello,

So far EasyTutu was working flawlessly, but now i've fallen victim to the Beregost bug. Before I entered Beregost for the first time I did what was recommended in the readme and there was no problem. But now, after chap.4 the party is trapped there and the game crashes whenever I try to leave. Is there anything I can do now, could reinstalling solve the problem or does that turn Beregost into a no -go zone?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on May 27, 2006, 06:11:43 PM
Hello -

So far EasyTutu was working flawlessly, but now i've fallen victim to the Beregost bug. Before I entered Beregost for the first time I did what was recommended in the readme and there was no problem. But now, after chap.4 the party is trapped there and the game crashes whenever I try to leave. Is there anything I can do now, could reinstalling solve the problem or does that turn Beregost into a no -go zone?

Reinstalling won't help anything.

The readme recommends saving your game prior to entering Beregost, and then when you leave, saving again, reloading that last save, and trying to re-enter Beregost.  If you can, reload that last save again and continue on your way.  If you've followed the directions, just reload your save from prior to entering Beregost this visit and try again.

If you haven't followed the instructions (i.e., you don't have a save to fall back on), you can try the steps listed in this thread (http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php/topic,21541.0.html) as a workaround.

On another note: are you playing with or without TotSC?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Keigos on May 27, 2006, 07:08:21 PM
Wow, Macready, you are fast !

I tried what the org. poster of your link did and copied the Baldur.sav file from the Quick Save into the Autosave and was then able to load the autosave, enter Beregost and leave it again without any problem. That quick save wasn't too long before the autosave and nothing story related had happened since that quicksave, so if the Baldur.sav only stores information about the state of the areas then I shouldn't have to expect any problems, should I?


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The readme recommends saving your game prior to entering Beregost, and then when you leave, saving again, reloading that last save, and trying to re-enter Beregost.  If you can, reload that last save again and continue on your way.  If you've followed the directions, just reload your save from prior to entering Beregost this visit and try again.

That's exactly what I did the first time I was going to enter Beregost and since all was working fine I assumed that I would be save for the rest of the game. I must have entered and left Beregost at least 5 more times before I finally run into that bug. Maybe it's recommendable to at least make a quick save whenever one is going to go there.

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On another note: are you playing with or without TotSC?

 the install is BG1 with TotSC + EasyTutu-ToB

thanks a lot for your quick answer

Keigos

Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Salk on May 31, 2006, 06:18:26 AM
MacReady,

at your homepage I would add that not only custom portraits are not copied over when installing Easy TuTu but even custom sounds.  ;)
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Elrikk on June 29, 2006, 12:07:41 AM
Installed BG1, TotSC & Latest TotSC Patch
Installed BG2 , ToB & Latest ToB Patch

Balderdashed both installs With latest text and fix packs.

Installed EsyTuTu.

Ran a test of a new BG1 game in EasyTuTu - Runs amazingly well.

Small annoying problem - the shield I chose looks fine in the inventory slot but is completely different looking (ie. ugly) on the character, both in game and the inventory doll.


I tried something.  Since EasyTuTu bg1 saves are (as I understand it) in BG2 format I tried editing a savegame with ShadowKeeper pointed at my EasyTuTu install..

Same proble there.  Chosing a shield from the pics displayed in SK (and armor and helm) works and look great in SK.

Load the new savegame in EayTuTu and I get the choices I wanted in the inventory slot  but not on my character.

This is probably a petty problem as the values associated with these items are all correct.  It is just the asthetics that is bothering me.


I plan on installing more of the tutu fixes and mods once I get the basics sorted out.  Have spent the past three days reading this (and other) bg mod site forums so I have a fair idea of the order in which to do things.


Any help for a TuTu newbie (played BG when it first came out though) will be appreciated.


Elrikk
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: vtancredi on June 30, 2006, 03:14:48 PM
Macready,
I'm new to the BG world and this forum, but I work in IT tech support for a living and I want to say great job on the Easy Tutu! It looks like you might have used Installshield to make the installer, it is professional and well done.
That's the executive summary. For the verbose version, read on.

Allow me to tell my story. I had played a bunch of other RPGs over the years starting with the gold box Pool of Radiance on the old C64, and skipped over the Baldur's gate and associated games for some reason, I think I was tired of the D&D kind of things. After hitting other niches e.g. Fallout and SW KOTOR and others (anyone who hasn't tried Gothic 2 has a treat waiting for them) I decided to come home to Baldur's gate and it is pretty scary to dive into as a newbie. Bear in mind I consider myself pretty technical being that I wrestle computers every day for a living, but the amount of mods that are out there, and their incompatibility, and so forth is daunting to say the least. Far more complex than any of the other games I've dived into.

I managed to locate the package bundles for BG1 and 2 on the internet since Interplay and BI have gone to the great game developer in the sky. Upon searching for the latest patches, I discovered this site, and the sorcerers place, and yours. It seemed the simplest yet most effective change would be the TUTU project. I didn't want to drastically change gameplay as with new quests or something, but didn't want to miss out on the user community tweaks that can make a big difference with game annoyances. Reading the default Tutu installation procedure was turning my hair gray when I saw your package.

I specifically joined this forum to thank you personally. I know from experience that troubleshooting this kind of thing is time consuming. In this case it is a labor of love, and you've allowed me to enjoy the game much more. Thanks for spreading the love.

Sincerely,
Victor

Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on June 30, 2006, 03:54:59 PM
Hello -

Thanks very much for the kind words.  It is certainly nice to hear such a sincere expression of appreciation.  To echo your words about Gothic 2, you also are in for a treat with the Baldur's Gate saga.

I do feel compelled to point out that Tutu is the result of the combined efforts of a lot of different people, and it was in a very mature and exciting state before I ever wandered along and began working on it.  So as a Tutu enthusiast myself, I echo your thanks to all the rest of the people who have contributed directly and indirectly to Tutu.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: vtancredi on June 30, 2006, 05:13:38 PM
Absolutely. I should probably thank them on their forum although they must have tons of this feedback already ;)

I'm wondering about something: you included the Balderdash fixes in your package, right? What do you think of the Dudleyfixes? http://www.dudleyville.com/dudleyfix/index.htm
they seem interesting, but I am new to all this and maybe a little paranoid about putting anything else on the system.

BTW your mod suggestions were spot on, most especially the BG1NPC mod, which I complimented them over at gibberlings3 about. an excellent, excellent piece of work. I mentioned that I think it adds an emotional component to the game that surpasses anything else I've tried.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on June 30, 2006, 06:22:50 PM
Hello -

Absolutely. I should probably thank them on their forum although they must have tons of this feedback already ;)

This *is* their forum.  I am a guest here as much as you are. :)

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I'm wondering about something: you included the Balderdash fixes in your package, right?

Yes.

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What do you think of the Dudleyfixes? http://www.dudleyville.com/dudleyfix/index.htm
they seem interesting, but I am new to all this and maybe a little paranoid about putting anything else on the system.

At present, they can't be added to an EasyTutu installation.  If I had been smart, I'd have incorporated Sim's Dudleyfix work into EasyTutu before I started developing it further, but I wasn't, and didn't.  At this point I am willing to fix reported bugs, but I don't think I will revert back to the point of conversion in order to include them, because of the extensive testing and debugging I'd have to do to all of my own work as I reapplied it to a different base conversion.

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BTW your mod suggestions were spot on, most especially the BG1NPC mod, which I complimented them over at gibberlings3 about. an excellent, excellent piece of work. I mentioned that I think it adds an emotional component to the game that surpasses anything else I've tried.

That's a fairly common sentiment -- it is a very popular mod.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Blucher on July 18, 2006, 07:37:23 PM
Easy Tutu is awesome!  Just wanted to say that.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on July 18, 2006, 08:20:02 PM
Hello -

Easy Tutu is awesome!  Just wanted to say that.

Thanks. :)
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: NOC7URN3 on July 20, 2006, 01:03:59 PM
I suppose it's the right topic...

Did you plan a french translation ??? ;D
Tutu is a wonderful mod .
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on July 20, 2006, 01:05:50 PM
Hello -

I suppose it's the right topic...

Did you plan a french translation ??? ;D
Tutu is a wonderful mod .

The conventional Tutu installer (v4) accomodates foreign language versions.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Jab on July 25, 2006, 03:57:31 PM
Hi,

I'm testing easyTutu and it's really great (especially world map)!  ;)
Just two minor bugs:
1) I got some damage from that guy, which is near the house with rats (the one, who is testing/teaching your fighting abilities). My PC is ranger, so it was OK. But for a mage, it could be a battle... ;)
2) My PC didn't lost special abilities (cure light wounds, slow poison, draw upon a holy might) at the beginning.

Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on July 25, 2006, 06:14:17 PM
Hello -

(especially world map)!  ;)

That bit is courtesy of Mr. Fain, I believe.  It's from Tutufix.

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1) I got some damage from that guy, which is near the house with rats (the one, who is testing/teaching your fighting abilities). My PC is ranger, so it was OK. But for a mage, it could be a battle... ;)

Interesting.  May I ask you to post the contents of your weidu.log file?  I've never sustained damage from that encounter in multiple passes.

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2) My PC didn't lost special abilities (cure light wounds, slow poison, draw upon a holy might) at the beginning.

I have to confess to mucking around extensively with the game initialization code, but I'm almost sure I left the script block which handles this (originally written by Japheth, I believe) wholly untouched.  I'll experiment with this and then report back.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on July 25, 2006, 08:03:54 PM
Hello -

2) My PC didn't lost special abilities (cure light wounds, slow poison, draw upon a holy might) at the beginning.

I am not able to recreate this problem.  I exported a character from a Tutu final save (i.e., a character with full BG1 Bhaalspawn abilities), imported it during character creation in a new game, and was born sans Bhaalspawn powers.

May I ask what version of EasyTutu you are using?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Jab on July 26, 2006, 02:22:31 AM
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// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name
~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #2 // Restored BG1 Loadscreens
~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #3 // BG2 Ammo Stacks
~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #4 // Totemic Druid Spirit Summons are Balanced
~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #5 // BG1 Summoning Spells
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #0 // The BG1 NPC Project for BG1 Tutu: Core Install
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #1 // The BG1 NPC Project for BG1 Tutu: Phase I (Banters)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #2 // The BG1 NPC Project for BG1 Tutu: Phase II (Quests and Interjections)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #6 // Give Edwin his BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #7 // Give Imoen her BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #8 // Give Jaheira her BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #9 // Give Minsc his BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #10 // Give Viconia her BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #14 // Non-joinable character portraits
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #15 // Coran's Romance Core (Rated: R)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #16 // Placeholder 1: New Quests
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #17 // Dynaheir's Romance Core (Rated PG13)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #18 // Shar-Teel Relationship Core (Rated R)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #19 // Branwen's Romance Core (Rated PG13)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #21 // Xan's Romance Core (Rated PG13)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #22 // Ajantis Romance Core (Rated PG13)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #23 // Female Romance Challenges
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #26 // Coran's Romance Speed -> Coran's Romance Speed (30 minutes)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #30 // Dynaheir's Romance Speed -> Dynaheir's Romance Speed: 30 minutes
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #34 // Xan's Romance Speed -> Xan's Romance Speed: 30 minutes
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #38 // Shar-Teel's Romance Speed -> Shar-Teel's Relationship Speed: 30 minutes
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #42 // Branwen's Romance Speed -> Branwen's Romance Speed: 30 minutes
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #46 // Ajantis' Romance Speed -> Ajantis' Romance Speed: 30 minutes
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #100 // Install Player-Initiated Dialogues
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #60 // Weapon Animation Tweaks
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #110 // Icon Improvements
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #120 // Change Avatar When Wearing Robes or Armor (Galactygon)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #130 // Force All Dialogue to Pause Game
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1060 // Breakable Iron Nonmagical Shields, Helms, and Armor
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1100 // Reveal City Maps When Entering Area
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1110 // Add Map Notes
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1120 // Stores Sell Higher Stacks of Items
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1150 // Shapeshifter Rebalancing
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2010 // PnP Spell Progression Tables
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2070 // Druids Use Cleric Level and Spell Progression
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2140 // Expanded Dual-Class Options
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2170 // Cast Spells from Scrolls (and Other Items) at Character Level
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2180 // Un-Nerfed THAC0 Table, Saving Throws, Grand-Mastery, and  Arcane, Divine Spell Progression (Blucher)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2210 // True Grand Mastery (Baldurdash)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3000 // Higher HP on Level Up -> Maximum
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3031 // Easy Spell Learning -> 100% Learn Spells and No Maximum Cap
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3060 // Remove "You Must Gather Your Party..." Sound (Weimer)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3070 // Low Reputation Store Discount (Sabre)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Unlimited Potion Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4000 // Adjust Evil joinable NPC reaction rolls
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4020 // ToB-Style NPCs
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4031 // Consistent Stats: Edwin -> Use BG2 Values
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4041 // Consistent Stats: Jaheira -> Use BG2 Values
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4050 // Change Jaheira to Neutral Good
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4061 // Consistent Stats: Minsc -> Use BG2 Values
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4071 // Consistent Stats: Viconia -> Use BG2 Values
~1PP/1PP.TP2~ #0 #0 // 1PP: Everything but Potions
~1PP/1PP.TP2~ #0 #1 // New Potion Graphics
~SETUP-TUTUSOUNDS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Casting Sounds -> Restored BG1 Casting Sounds And Special Effects
~SETUP-TUTUSOUNDS.TP2~ #0 #2 // Restored BG1 Combat Sounds
~SETUP-SIRINESCALL.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Lure of the Sirine's Call
~SETUP-TUTUGUI.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldurs Gate I GUI for Tutu
Maybe it's because TutuGUI. I should install it before Sirinescall and one pixel production.
I'm using the last version of easyTutu.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Jab on July 26, 2006, 03:00:38 AM
Maybe it's because TutuGUI. I should install it before Sirinescall and one pixel production.
Yep, this was the reason. I'm sorry, my fault. :-[ ;)
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on July 26, 2006, 07:50:25 AM
Hello -

Maybe it's because TutuGUI. I should install it before Sirinescall and one pixel production.

Yep, this was the reason. I'm sorry, my fault. :-[ ;)

What did you change, and which of the two issues you mentioned did it fix?  In my experience, installing TutuGUI last is a good thing.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Jab on July 26, 2006, 08:01:42 AM
What did you change, and which of the two issues you mentioned did it fix?  In my experience, installing TutuGUI last is a good thing.
I had uninstalled last three mods (lure of sirines..., one pixel..., TutuGUI) and then reinstalled them in different order (TutuGUI, one pixel, lure of sirines). But I don't know, why it works now. ???
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on July 26, 2006, 08:05:56 AM
Hello -

I had uninstalled last three mods (lure of sirines..., one pixel..., TutuGUI) and then reinstalled them in different order (TutuGUI, one pixel, lure of sirines). But I don't know, why it works now. ???

I cannot even begin to imagine how any of those three mods could affect the game initialization script, or a NPC in the Prologue.  But, I think it is time for me to stop complaining at receiving a "it works" message. :)
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Jab on July 26, 2006, 08:10:41 AM
I cannot even begin to imagine how any of those three mods could affect the game initialization script, or a NPC in the Prologue.  But, I think it is time for me to stop complaining at receiving a "it works" message. :)
Perhaps Cyric somehow confused my game or something like that. You should watch out for him. ;D
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Salk on July 31, 2006, 01:59:42 AM
A small suggestion for you, MacReady!

What do you think about adding the BG Config link in Start->Programs->Baldur's Gate TuTu ?  :pirate

Keep it up and thanks for your efforts!
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on July 31, 2006, 02:12:41 AM
Hello -

What do you think about adding the BG Config link in Start->Programs->Baldur's Gate TuTu ?  :pirate

I'd say that is a very good idea.  Hopefully it would serve to cut down on instances of people mistakenly running their BG2 copy of the configuration program instead.

I'll include such a shortcut in the next release.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: berelinde on July 31, 2006, 06:39:41 AM
Another suggestion, from the department of redundancy department.

Most of Tutu mods do instruct the user to install in the BG1 Tutu directory and give it as the default installation directory during setup, but plenty of people still miss it. I know the Tutu readme does reference safe mods. Maybe you could put in a line "These mods and any other Tutu mods should be installed in your Tutu directory." I know I missed that one first time through.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on July 31, 2006, 07:49:21 AM
Hello -

Most of Tutu mods do instruct the user to install in the BG1 Tutu directory and give it as the default installation directory during setup, but plenty of people still miss it. I know the Tutu readme does reference safe mods. Maybe you could put in a line "These mods and any other Tutu mods should be installed in your Tutu directory." I know I missed that one first time through.

I cover this topic both on the main EasyTutu page, and now in the EasyTutu FAQ.  I don't feel as though saying it any more places will be helpful.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: _Drelnza_ on August 05, 2006, 06:19:40 AM
I just wanted to say thanks to all those who have worked on Tutu, it really is brilliant.

I played the original Tutu sometime ago and recently come back to play again and installed EasyTutu. I love having a separate installation that looks & feels extremely professional. So cool.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: arawn on August 18, 2006, 03:39:33 AM
Laugh at me if you will. In the Easytutu readme, BG2 is required to be patched but the BG1 patch isn't mentioned, is this because the latter doesn't matter?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on August 18, 2006, 07:53:30 AM
Hello -

In the Easytutu readme, BG2 is required to be patched but the BG1 patch isn't mentioned, is this because the latter doesn't matter?

Correct.  The most important characteristic of your BG1 installation is that it be a completely full installation, with every possible optional component right there on the hard drive.  As for patching, it isn't important for EasyTutu simply because EasyTutu only uses the BG1 installation for BIFF mining.  However, no harm is done if you patch / have patched your BG1 installation.  No difference either way.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: arawn on August 18, 2006, 08:11:20 AM
Thanks Macready, I thought perhaps the readme just assumed that it was the original saga (that doesn't require a patch). :)
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: arawn on August 21, 2006, 10:20:16 AM
I'm just curious, I don't recall the Beregost instablity in my last time through BGtutu. Why would this change with the easytutu conversion?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on August 21, 2006, 10:41:11 AM
Hello -

I'm just curious, I don't recall the Beregost instablity in my last time through BGtutu. Why would this change with the easytutu conversion?

Tutu has always had the Beregost problem, in whatever flavor.  It is a sporadic bug (sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't).  EasyTutu doesn't change the characteristics at all.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Baldurin on August 22, 2006, 12:29:06 PM
Hi Macready!

I had tried your Easytutu and it´s a very interesting idea. Because tutu it´s very confused to install the most of people prefers Esaytutu but i think that is a problem only support English text. Well, I had played with Easytutu with a BG+TOSC+patch and BG2+BGTOB+patch both in spanish and looks work fine. So it´s the problem is in dialog.tlk. Does not work if i change with mi spanish BG2 dialog.tlk. If tutu can works with other languages easytutu should works also (probably translating dialog.tlk or changing part of source code of Easytutu instalation to use dialog.tlk of BG folder).

By the other hand, you said: "I don't explicitly support non-English versions, since I don't have them to test with". I can support BG and BG2 in spanish via torrent (very fast) or pando in ISO format if you really want support and test it. Other people can do the same with anorther languages to support this proyect and convert Easytutu usefull for non-speak english people (a lot of people in the world, sure!).

Greetings!
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on August 22, 2006, 01:13:02 PM
Hello -

Other people can do the same with anorther languages to support this proyect and convert Easytutu usefull for non-speak english people (a lot of people in the world, sure!).

I'm sure you are correct about there being some potential interest in having EasyTutu support other languages.  However, I made the decision early on not to support foreign language versions, because focusing solely on English language end users has enabled me to deliver consistently stable Tutu installations.  I do want to be clear about this: the single most important ingredient to EasyTutu's success in delivering stable, consistent installations has been integration of the TLK with the core Tutu package.

On top of this, much of the work I do on EasyTutu involves significant manipulation of game text strings (e.g., the enhanced BG2-style journal), which brings me to another decision I made earlier on: I much prefer to deliver the best possible experience of which I am capable to my target audience, rather than take a lowest common denominator approach in terms of the features I implement due to my inability to replicate some work in other languages.

I appreciate your interest, but I have no plans to support foreign language installations via EasyTutu -- you will need to make use of the conventional Tutu conversion program.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Baldurin on August 23, 2006, 02:54:30 AM
Thanks for the reply! And good work!  ;D
Title: Beregost
Post by: chegitz guevara on September 01, 2006, 10:10:30 PM
I cannot get past Beregost. Every time I try and enter the city, my game crashes.
Title: Re: Beregost
Post by: Macready on September 02, 2006, 05:24:16 AM
Hello -

I cannot get past Beregost. Every time I try and enter the city, my game crashes.

This is covered both in the EasyTutu known issues (http://www.usoutpost31.com/easytutu/index.html#KnownIssues), and in the EasyTutu FAQ (http://www.usoutpost31.com/easytutu/etfaq.html) (last question).
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: chegitz guevara on September 02, 2006, 08:42:55 AM
Yeah, but I can't get in even after I save or restart the game or reboot the computer. I simply cannot enter the city at all. I just crashed trying to get into Nashkel.  :(
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: wanderon on September 04, 2006, 11:55:30 AM
Just curious about this - its not really a big issue for me...

When I minimize my Easy Tutu game while playing in windows mode it almost always crashes after a few minutes. Playing BG2 however I have left the game paused and minimized overnight without any problem. Any idea why this happens??
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on September 04, 2006, 01:04:35 PM
Hello -

Just curious about this - its not really a big issue for me...

When I minimize my Easy Tutu game while playing in windows mode it almost always crashes after a few minutes. Playing BG2 however I have left the game paused and minimized overnight without any problem. Any idea why this happens??

I'm not sure -- I don't use windowed mode.  FWIW, I've always been able to ALT-TAB out of fullscreen mode and then resume later without issue.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: natalya on September 04, 2006, 04:18:56 PM
Two questions: does easytutu use tutu4 or tutu6 type spawns? And will easytutu installation automatically use bg1 music/casting sounds?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on September 04, 2006, 07:33:48 PM
Hello -

Two questions: does easytutu use tutu4 or tutu6 type spawns? And will easytutu installation automatically use bg1 music/casting sounds?

Regarding spawns: neither.  Tutu 4 spawns are just the normal BG1 ARE spawns, which don't work properly in the BG2 engine.  Tutu 6 spawns are a laughable study in inefficiency and unnecessary complexity -- IIRC the whole of the compiled Tutu 6 spawn scripts amounts to something like 70 or 80 *megabytes*.  Ick.

EasyTutu uses a lean, easily customizable spawn system that was, I believe, originally designed by CamDawg.  I ended up redesigning it some before actually implementing it across the game.  I believe that this final design, used in conjunction with the "Spawn Randomizer" add-on, yields what is by far the most robust and configurable spawn system available for playing BG1 in the BG2 engine.

EasyTutu will automatically use BG1 music.  It will *not* automatically use BG1 casting sounds, but I am fairly certain a mod exists to do just that.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: natalya on September 04, 2006, 11:50:32 PM
good to hear, and one more: if a bug is found and corrected in new version of easytutu, will I be forced to start a new game to get the fix? If, let's say, I haven't reach the part of the game where it occurs yet?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on September 05, 2006, 05:32:05 AM
Hello -

good to hear, and one more: if a bug is found and corrected in new version of easytutu, will I be forced to start a new game to get the fix? If, let's say, I haven't reach the part of the game where it occurs yet?

Very few reported bugs these days would even be worth a restart.  In a sense, EasyTutu is even less buggy than BG1 itself, as many of the bugs I've been fixing can be traced back to there.

Where appropriate, I will release fixes as "hotfixes (http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php/topic,23041.0.html)," but I really wouldn't sweat it if some little issue comes up.  It's just not worth mucking around with a game in progress.  Just make sure you've read the "Known Issues" section of the EasyTutu page so that you don't get tripped up by Beregost with no fallback save.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: chegitz guevara on September 05, 2006, 06:44:02 PM
Re my Beregost problem, it took a re-install to fix it. Before, no matter what, the moment I tried to enter the city, I crashed. Saving didn't matter, I couldn't crash in or after Beregost, cuz I couldn't get in to the city. Since the re-install, it's only happened once. Might want to add something about that to your FAQ.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: cvieor on September 06, 2006, 09:55:07 AM
Re my Beregost problem, it took a re-install to fix it. Before, no matter what, the moment I tried to enter the city, I crashed. Saving didn't matter, I couldn't crash in or after Beregost, cuz I couldn't get in to the city. Since the re-install, it's only happened once. Might want to add something about that to your FAQ.
It's just the same bug in different form.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Davryd on September 22, 2006, 11:54:12 PM

Hi,

Dunno if this has been reported before, ( too lazy to read 6 pages ;) )  I DL'd all the latest versions and installed them, then went to play and all the icons on the left of the main game screen displayed the " N " from the map I think it is. Then I installed the BG1 GUI for Tutu, and now it's fine, though in BG1 style not BG2.

Mods used - Easy Tutu, Baldudash fixes, Tutufix 17, ET Degreenifyer, ET kits, BG1 NPC Project, Spawn Randomizer, Slime Quest, IronModder pack, SoBH, Finch NPC, BG1 GUI

Cheers,
Davryd
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Macready on September 23, 2006, 05:37:46 PM
Hello -

all the icons on the left of the main game screen displayed the " N " from the map I think it is.

I'm not sure what is going on, but I am fairly sure it is not an EasyTutu issue.  Was your BG2 installation modded prior to installing EasyTutu?
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Davryd on September 23, 2006, 06:19:46 PM
Hello -

I'm not sure what is going on, but I am fairly sure it is not an EasyTutu issue.  Was your BG2 installation modded prior to installing EasyTutu?


No, it was a fresh install. IIRC, that was the order I install the mods too, if that makes a difference.

Davryd
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Silk on October 12, 2006, 10:36:05 AM
I recently re-installed EasyTutu, after a run with another game (my HD space is limited so games have to come and go for everything to fit).  I have the old 5 disk installation and I'm lucky that when I bought TotSC, I had to buy BG1 again (it was all packaged together) because area 2400 (on disk 4) is corrupt on one version.

Due to the oldness of my computer, I've never had a problem with green water (2D graphics) and luckily enough, never had a problem with Beregost even after repeated visits to the town.  I also keep the BG2 interface because I like it but I'm in love with Ghrey's map.  I haven't really modded Tutu this time except for the G3 BG NPC Project. (No, sorry, I didn't install Finch, even though she's a hero ... and a librarian.)

Finally, many, many thanks to all involved in Tutu-ising BG1 - both the original Tutu and EasyTutu.  The whole idea was a work of genius.  The BG2 engine is so much easier to play.

Following all that waffling, my question is this:  Can I uninstall/remove the original BG1?  I don't mean the Tutu version, I mean the original install that EasyTutu copied from?  As I said, HD space is at a premium and I've effectively got 2 versions of both BG1 and BG2 right now.
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Gorilym on October 12, 2006, 11:05:07 AM
Quote from: Macready
Unlike traditional Tutu, EasyTutu is not dependent upon Baldur's Gate 1 and Baldur's Gate 2 being installed after setup is completed.  Both games only need to be installed for the EasyTutu setup process itself.

from http://usoutpost31.com/easytutu/

So yes, uninstall away  :)
Title: Re: "EasyTutu" Is Available For Download
Post by: Silk on October 12, 2006, 05:47:28 PM
Oh dear, I read that thoroughly, too.  I'm so embarrassed.  Thanks for the answer.