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BG2 Completed Mods => Unfinished Business => Topic started by: icelus on December 12, 2005, 02:34:13 PM
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Until Andy, Cliffette, or I get a chance to dig through the forum and collect the information about UB compatibility issues with other mods, we would be oh-so-happy if people could post any compatibility issues they've discovered in this thread.
Also, please read the above sentence as if it were like three smaller ones, instead of one almost-runon sentence.
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UB IS COMPATIBLE WITH EVERYTHING HOORAY!!!
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UB IS COMPATIBLE WITH EVERYTHING HOORAY!!!
As far as i know Valygar/Suna Seni component is not compatible with TS. Am i wrong?
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UB IS COMPATIBLE WITH EVERYTHING HOORAY!!!
As far as i know Valygar/Suna Seni component is not compatible with TS. Am i wrong?
I think it clashes with the romance in ts yes. I would also like an answer to this. anyone?
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I think that would end up being a more story based incompatibility. My guess would be that both will happen and they'll be situations with two Suna Senis.
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I don't think TS is compatible with much, now.
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Remember, There now 2 TS, TS v6.05 and TS-BP v6.04.02. TS-BP works to be compatibile with other mods.
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I found UB so incompatible that i was forced to uninstall. I would get the dialog box with nothing in it...no "continue" or response choices, nothing.
I tried reinstalling. I tried uninstalling other mods and installing all over again. All for naught. In the end, I decided I could live without the mod.
Other mods I've got installed: Ease (everything except the no traps/locks option), Soulafein, Kelsey, Saerilith (which has made things stutter a bit, but it's liveable), Xan (who rocks, by the way), Underrepresented Items, and Item Upgrades.
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No text/scrambled text indicates user install errors, as opposed to a mod bug. It suggests you either:
- Installed the official patch or a non-WeiDU mod after WeiDU mods
- Installed the patch or a mod with the game or a game editor running
- Your dialog.tlk file is set as read-only
A full reinstall of the game is the fix.
UB is compatible with the mods you've listed.
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You were right. I had BG running. My bad. Break out the wet noodle.
I've reinstalled, and hope things go better. The main reason I installed UB in the first place was because I love Minsc and wanted a quest for him. I'm looking forward to helping him regain Boo.
R
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The Boo quest is pretty sweet indeed, my friend! Pretty sweet indeed!
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You were right. I had BG running. My bad. Break out the wet noodle.
I've reinstalled, and hope things go better. The main reason I installed UB in the first place was because I love Minsc and wanted a quest for him. I'm looking forward to helping him regain Boo.
R
Enjoy. :)
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I thought that I read the Boo quest wasn't compatible with NEJ for BP? Also it has come up that the new fixpack from G3 has a compatibility issue with UB where they both address the Glacias charm issue(UB minor dialogs), but Cam reports he sent you guys the code to patch that up. Other than the Suna Seni thing with TS that is all I've heard of.
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Yeah, the Glacias Charm issue will be patched so as to avoid incompatablities. I don't know about NeJ but it seems incompatible with several things--I've not played it and nobody has ever explicitly told me of any incompatability, so if you know there is one then I'd be glad to hear of it to make people aware/see if there's a workaround. :)
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NEJ has a "Boo Familiar" as a compeonent, that may cause problems, I'm currentily starting NEJ+SoS+CtB+TS_BP+RoT+BP Megamod, from what I have just read I may have to rebuild it, :-X ( #%$! thing runs just over 7Gb and took all day to build) as it all Biffed and unknowily installed the Suni/Val romance not knowing about the problem with TS.
It may be worth while including "NOT IF" codeing on the various sections that may conflict with similiar mods sections, better yet arrange with the other modders to include ID tags for conflicting sections so player can chose which they want to install.
The BGT/BP family all have common sections of coding and use ID tags to prevent conflicts and ensure compatiability, as a player it would be great to be able play mods without such conflicts. I've notice that many modders are starting post documentation so other can check for compatiability.
I have seen that there has been talk of merging different projects, personalily I would like to see such as the different projects have different strong points some in the NPC's they bring to live withe dialogs and banters, while other have a wealth of locations and stroy arcs, the merging of such can only bring greater pleasure to those who play.
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Two down, one to go.
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NEJ has a "Boo Familiar" as a compeonent, that may cause problems, I'm currentily starting NEJ+SoS+CtB+TS_BP+RoT+BP Megamod, from what I have just read I may have to rebuild it, :-X ( #%$! thing runs just over 7Gb and took all day to build) as it all Biffed and unknowily installed the Suni/Val romance not knowing about the problem with TS.
It may be worth while including "NOT IF" codeing on the various sections that may conflict with similiar mods sections, better yet arrange with the other modders to include ID tags for conflicting sections so player can chose which they want to install.
I am happy to include code to stop mod components installing if there are conflicts with other mods, if I can get reports from players/modders of problems. :) I am unsure as to the precise extent of how much checking can be done, however, as it depends on both modders to add the code checks (and be honest and thorough with documentation) and Vlad for one has said he is not too fussed about compatability with other mods (http://forums.blackwyrmlair.net/index.php?showtopic=1982&st=29") (at several points in time).
I don't play the BP+ etc mod conglomerate because I don't enjoy them, so my experience in exactly what the possible conflicts could be is limited.
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Does anybody knows if i must instal, it, when using TuTu, intu TuTu directory or intou BG2 directory if I want to working it properly?
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My guess is that you probably don't want to install UB for BG2 in your Tutu directory at all. Did you mean to post to UB for BG1?
I have BG2 UB and love it. I have not installed BG1 UB.
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No, I have not played Tutu yet, but I want to install it because of its contntinuity of gaming through All four games, (no need for importing) So I want to know, when i make it (in the game) to BG2 i wont to know how can i make some mods for BG2 working. (Together with using Tutu) Thats what I mean......
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Tutu *doesn't* let you play continuously through the entire BG saga; you will still need to save/import. This means that most BG2 mods won't have any effect on a Tutu game, and some may even cause crashes or weird behaviour.
For what you want, you'll need BG Trilogy (http://spellholdstudios.net/mods/bgt-weidu/). BG2 UB *is* compatible with BGT, as are most other BG2 mods.
Incidentally, BG1 UB currently isn't compatible with either Tutu or BGT, but I believe a Tutu version is in the pipeline.
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Thanks for the heads-up.
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Where does the Darkest Day mod fit into these mods?
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I am not sure about the status of the current standalone version, as it seems to have been amalgamated into the Big Picture collection of mods. If you're using a non-WeiDU version of TDD you will have to install it before other mods.
I don't think TDD will cause any problems with Unfinished Business, though I cannot be certain as like many mod players I don't play TDD.
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TDD no longer seems to be supoprted, the last version 1.03 was modded in 2002.
With all of the excellent *supported* mods here, it appears I need not bother with TDD anyhow.
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The latest version of TDD is v1.11, which you can find here: ftp://mirror.intermedia.com.sg/pub/iegmc/tdd-weidu/
It doesn't do anything to resolve the *ahem* "quality issues" with the mod, however.
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Am I to assume that a majority of the sophisticated and learned BG2 players here do not use the TDD mod?
I tried a couple of years ago and it had issues that impacted gameplay enough that I abandoned BG2 at the time.
Now I am returning and do not wish to make another modding mistake.
many of the other mods, including the one in this thread, appear sufficient without TDD.
Do we have a consensus on that?
Thanx.
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Correct: bugs aside, a large proportion of players (and most modders) do not use it for quality reasons.
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I have never (in several years of reading several different forums) seen anyone praise/post good things about TDD. I have seen lost of praise for mods that I don't like/are very buggy, and I have seen lots of praise for mods I truly enjoy....
which means that TDD either has a very, very, very quiet fan base, or there are significant reasons why no-one is posting positives about it.
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TDD is no longer supported either, so it sux to be you if you encounter issues with it.
Conversely, the mods here I see are very well supoprted. :)
Speaking of which...
Where can I find info on problems installing the Tactics mod for BG2?
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http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php/board,43.0.html
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I have never (in several years of reading several different forums) seen anyone praise/post good things about TDD. I have seen lost of praise for mods that I don't like/are very buggy, and I have seen lots of praise for mods I truly enjoy...
hey, i've said good thigns about TDD before - in fact, i don't play BG2 without it. which isn't to say it's not hugely flawed - but sue me, there's enough about it that i like that it's part of my basic install. and it's finally bug-free, and supported here (http://forums.spellholdstudios.net/index.php?showforum=193). doesn't mean i'd necessarily recommend others use it, cos its flaws are pretty significant - but it's bug-free and fully compatible with other mods, so it's not like you lose anything (other than HDD space, and possibly street cred) by installing it.
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I have never (in several years of reading several different forums) seen anyone praise/post good things about TDD. I have seen lost of praise for mods that I don't like/are very buggy, and I have seen lots of praise for mods I truly enjoy...
hey, i've said good thigns about TDD before - in fact, i don't play BG2 without it. which isn't to say it's not hugely flawed - but sue me, there's enough about it that i like that it's part of my basic install. and it's finally bug-free, and supported here (http://forums.spellholdstudios.net/index.php?showforum=193). doesn't mean i'd necessarily recommend others use it, cos its flaws are pretty significant - but it's bug-free and fully compatible with other mods, so it's not like you lose anything (other than HDD space, and possibly street cred) by installing it.
I second that. It might not be the best mod in the world and the kits suck a$$ but it is bug free and adds a few things that are interesting. King Diamond put a ton of work into it to get it the way it is without changing any content.
ronin
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Please convey my apologies to KD 8) -- I certainly didn't know it was his work resurrecting the mod. Chalk it up to narrow mindedness on my part, and a tendency to read only a few forums. Plus being old and set in my ways.
And forgetful.
And grumpy this morning. :P
and I know I have read posts by both of you folks before; I just for the life of me can't remember anyone saying anything nice about TDD. It must have been overshadowed by the complaining about stuff that King Diamond has now fixed.
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Well I must confess that I have not tried the latest version of TDD, 103. Mine was the original.
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Just to give TDD more praise. I too always install TDD, mainly for the spells and some of the minor quests.
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I don't know about NeJ but it seems incompatible with several things--I've not played it and nobody has ever explicitly told me of any incompatability, so if you know there is one then I'd be glad to hear of it to make people aware/see if there's a workaround. :)
NEJ replaces standard MISC84.ITM Boo item with BOO.ITM at the start of BG2, which allows "summoning" Boo. This new item is not restricted to Minsc's quickslot.
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Man some people must think this is the only website that has mods ....
The lastest version of TDD(The Darkest Day) is 1.11 as seen here
http://america.iegmc.net/tdd-weidu/
as well as these other mods sites for BG2
http://www.spellholdstudios.net/
http://chosenofmystra.net/forums/index.php
http://dragonshoard.blackwyrmlair.net/index.php
http://www.gibberlings3.net/
http://www.weidu.org/main.html
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This is hardly true. In fact, we quite openly list every other mod site around (http://modlist.pocketplane.net/). I don't, however, blame anybody for not being quite up to date with the status of TDD, since, well, I think it sucks.
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Incidentally, BG1 UB currently isn't compatible with either Tutu or BGT, but I believe a Tutu version is in the pipeline.
Without meaning any offense, how long is that pipeline? -Given that this message dates from last August. Any chance we'll that compatibility soon, where soon equals within the next month? :)
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BG1 UB for Tutu has been in public beta for nearly two months. See this thread (http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php/topic,23542.0.html).
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BG1 UB for Tutu has been in public beta for nearly two months. See this thread (http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php/topic,23542.0.html).
A pearl to you! I shall.
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Is component "Sarevok Remorse" compatible with Ascension (Sarevok Dialog)?
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Well I for one cannot see any note anywhere about it being fixed, so I am not going to install Sarevok's remorse.
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I've played with both installed, and I've never had problems, although at that point I didn't have many mods installed, either. It should be fine.