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BG1 Completed Mods => BG1Tutu General => Topic started by: japheth on September 13, 2003, 02:11:49 PM
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Here are the installation instructions taken straight from the Readme:
Edit by Ghreyfain: Updated as of March 14th, 2005.
Installing
1) If you haven't already, perform a Full Install of BG1. This could mean BG1, BG1 plus TotSC, or BG: The Original Saga, depending on what you've bought. If you have the 6 CD set of BG1 (or 5, without the expansion), this means you should choose "custom install" and select everything. Even movies.
2) Apply the BG1 patch from Bioware only if you do not have BG: The Original Saga.
3) If you haven't already, perform a Recommended or Full install of BG2. Throne of Bhaal is supported but not required.
4) Depending on what you have installed, apply the BG2 patch or ToB Patch from Bioware.
5) Extract bg1tutu_v(x).exe to your BGII directory. (Where x is the version number you’ve downloaded.)
6) Using a text editor like wordpad (don't use notepad, it's very confusing), PFE, ConTEXT, etc., go to your bg1tutu folder and open up the file named "configuration". You need to edit the two lines named ~source~ and ~target~. If you installation of BG1 was at C:gamesBG1 and your BG2 installation was in C:gamesBGII, your configuration file should wind up looking like this:
~source~ [ ~C:gamesBG1 ~]
~source.variant~ [ ~BG1~ ]
~target~ [ ~C:gamesBGII~ ]
~target.variant~ [ ~BG2~ ]
*Note that the path is case sensitive. Capital and lower-case letters matter.
7) If you haven’t installed TotSC, download the file http://home.arcor.de/varana/RNDEQUIP.2DA into your bg1tutubg1-override folder.
8) Install any BG1 mods/upgrades that you will want to use in your BG1 directory.
Note: Most minor BG1 mods should convert correctly. DSotSC does not.
9) Double-click bg1tutu.exe (it will be in your BGII directory) and let it run.
10) Just follow along after this and make whichever choices you wish.
11) Once BG1Tutu has finished installing, you should download and run Tutufix. It is absolutely required that you install at least the Core Bugfixes component.
12) After Tutufix has been installed, you should install any mods specifically tailored for Tutu. See the BG1Tutu Enhancements page for a list.
13) If you want BG music, copy BG’s music folder into your BGII directory. (Make sure to rename BGII’s music folder to something else first so that you don’t overwrite BGII’s music.)
14) Play BG1Tutu by running “bgmain.exe” in your BG2 folder. It may prompt you for your BG2 CD.
15) Have fun, you made it!
Uninstalling (Reverting back to BGII)
1) Run bg1tutu_restore.exe, which is located in your BGII directory.
2) Delete bg1tutu_restore.log.
3) Play BGII normally.
4) Optional: If you want to *completely* get rid of everything, then also delete the following files after running bg1tutu_restore.exe:
- bg1tutu folder
- bg1tutu.exe
- bg1tutu_restore.exe
- setup-tutufix.exe
- setup-tutufix.tp2
- BG1Tutu_Readme.htm
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Right. Run that, and it should report successful restoration. After that, run the BGmain.exe to start BG2 itself. Once there, choose load a game, and select the one named "bg1tutu-transition".
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Thank you, Ghreyfain for your help. I really appreciate it! :)
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Ghreyfain, I ran the restore, then BG2 itself, selected load a game but there was nothing named "bg1tutu-transition". I messed up and had to uninstall and reinstall everything. I'm not sure what happened, but I did everything you said to do, but that one just did not show up. :(
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Hmm, okay. I'll look into it for a future version of the fixpack. It's been a while since I've been to that point in the game. :(
On the bright side, it should be no trouble to re-construct your PC's stats and the like using ShadowKeeper. www.mud-master.com
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Yes, thank God for Shadow Keeper. ;D
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What do you mean by "1) Make sure that you have a final save in your save directory."
Because I believe that's the reason I can't uninstall Tutu, a fact which has me rather annoyed.
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You don't need a final save to uninstall. You just need one to bring your character across to BG2.
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Are you sure?
There was a time when restore.exe would complain and quit if you didn't have a save called "Final Save" in your folder. Whether it was an actual Final save or just a regular one with that name didn't matter.
Maybe that has changed; it was with v2 or so.
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Ghreyfain, I ran the restore, then BG2 itself, selected load a game but there was nothing named "bg1tutu-transition". I messed up and had to uninstall and reinstall everything. I'm not sure what happened, but I did everything you said to do, but that one just did not show up. :(
Among my other problems getting the various Tutu tweaks to work is this one as well: no bg1tutu-transition in save games.
But it is just one of several problems. Somehow I'm missing files here and there; some things install just fine, but naturally the things I most want will not. Oh, well; back to uninstalling-reinstalling in the hopes that something takes! :P
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Well, I got it to work! And this may help others have the same "d'oh!" problem.
What I have is not the 5 BG disks but the 3-disk "Original Saga." When you are installing it, you are offered three options, which are the Custom, Minimal, and Recommended. If you click on "Custom," there is a very alarming dialog that, if you don't read it closely, seems to indicate that this is a more minimal than the "Minimal" install. However, if you read more carefully, then you see that the total number of MB in the "Custom" install can exceed that of the Minimal one. So ... I checked everythinig on the "Custom" install, and lo! all the mods, from NPC banters to the core TutuFix components, loaded perfectly.
No doubt this is completely obvious to all the geeks out there, but from reading other posts this seems a fairly common mistake. Might be a good idea to include a line in the installation instructions to indicated that "Custom" = "Full" install.
(Incidently, I first played BG on my Mac, and what I remember is that "Full install" was not even an option. There was a Mac Infinity web site that included instructions on what to do to *make* BG a full-install game so you only needed one disk, but I don't remember what that site was.)
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I'm encountering the same "no bg1tutu-transition in save games" problem when installing this mod ... has anyone solved this problem? I think I'm on my 3rd full installing now ...
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Yeah, the problem was that tutu wouldn't create the saved game unless the folder already existed. There's a fix for this in V5 of the fixpack.
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I just installed Tutu for the first time using a copy of The Original Saga. It was effortless. Thank you for the excellent install instructions.
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http://forums.bioware.com/viewtopic.html?topic=400830&forum=17
TuTu installs thru Point2Play/Cedega just fine. Original issues I had posted to this forum were user error :)
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Right. Run that, and it should report successful restoration. After that, run the BGmain.exe to start BG2 itself. Once there, choose load a game, and select the one named "bg1tutu-transition".
A quick question (could not find in faq) . If i have started bgtsc and have a saved game - can i now instal tutu and continue that saved game?
Thanks!
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No, due to the nature of the conversion you cannot use the saved game from BG1 proper.
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No, due to the nature of the conversion you cannot use the saved game from BG1 proper.
Thank you for your responce!
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when i try using the bg1tutu restore i get an error
this is from bg1tutu_restore.log:
WeiDU v 128 Log
H:\spil\Black Isle\BGII - tutu\bg1tutu_restore.exe
BG1Tutu Restore (version 2)
Removing override, dialog.tlk, chitin.key, baldur.ini
and BGMain.exe and restoring backups.
ERROR: Unix.Unix_error(1, "unlink", "dialog.tlk")
What can I do about that?
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for some reason it works now, but the bg1tutu-transition save does not appear on the load screen and when i look in the folder it is empty. So I checked the log file and the 4 lines looks like this:
[save/000000002-final-save/baldur.gam] loaded, 197228 bytes
Baldur.gam successfully loaded in final save directory
[bg1tutu/backup/baldur.gam] loaded, 10324 bytes
Creating bg1tutu-transition directory
Is that right or is something missing?
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Question, after i beat the game and i do the restoration can i then add into BG2 the mods i would like? Or do i have to put those BG2 mods in before i install tutu?
I believe that this has been asked before however i would rather ask in my own way and avoid hours of problems.
Thank you for your time.
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Your best bet would be to install BG2 mods after having uninstalled Tutu, yeah. If nothing else, it'll save you some hard drive space with the backups Tutu makes before it runs.
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Thanks pirate man!
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does Tutu make changes to the BG1/TotSC directory?
Installed the sirens call V2, and it removed the ammo stacking so I tried to reinstall the G3 tweak pack for the ammo stacking, it failed miserably, so I thought i'd be cool, move the saved games, configuratin files that had to be modified deleted the Tutu directory thinking I could start over, using the 2 installs method which worked the first time.
Copied the BG2 files like last time,which was already patched with Bioware TOB, Baldurdash TOB, moved the conf. and save game files back.
extracted the Tutu v4, ran.
G3 Tutu tweaks v9
G3 BG1NPC
the Grey Clan V1.75
Sirens call V2
Indira V5
Tutu fixpack V7
Got an error during the install, do you want the 380K debug file, 39K zipped?
or try it again in a different order.
I see i also DL and must have installed them before,
G3 tweaks V8, buti don't think I did that after Tutu last time, it don't look like a post Tutu fix.
I also had another arror crop up before installing the sirens call v2, whenever I hit the map in the lighthouse area, it would desktop with no error. hoping the V2 might fix that also, But I guess I won't find out now for a while.
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You might be getting hit with the following issue:
http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showtopic=2832&view=findpost&p=28173
I recently tried to do a fresh conversion and got hit - no TuTu for me for the time being. :'( Basically, most (actually "all" I think) of the stacking tweaks from the fixpack error out.
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Humm, it worked last saturday (1/22)when I first installed it, the only thing different is sirens call V2.
Oh well, may not get to it tonight, startrek, stargate, and battlestar galactica are on, and have to work 10-6 on saturday, so late saturday probably, maybe the fixes will be out.
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I don't know what the problem is, actually, so I can't fix it. underdog, can you send me the following files from your BG2 override:
FW3600.are
_AR3600.bcs
FW3600.wed
Thanks. There should be a button to the left with an e-mail link.
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Send them off sometime after 6P Central US,
Are any mods made to the BG1 files, and should I dump that and reinstall it again, or
can I leave it and keep using it?
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Sirine's Call makes no changes to BG1 files, just the BG2 files I mention.
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how about the tutu installation, what I want to know is do i have ot reinstall the BG1 original, or is it unmolested, and I can just leave it as is.
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I don't think I understand what you mean. Neither Sirine's Call nor Tutu affect BG1, except for drawing on its resource, in the case of the latter.
To fix your Tutu game, just try uninstalling Sirine's Call.
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Thicky question:
When you say change the source path and target path: who/what/where/how etc.? Can someone please give me a very simple, step by step on this as if talking to a child? Cheers :D
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Try this thread, Sarah, it is very detailed and ask away once you run into something that you cannot figure out.
http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php?topic=18221.0
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After I install BG1Tutu and Tutufix v9, may I install following bugfixes?
1. (Baldurdash) BG1FixPack11.exe
2. (Baldurdash) BG1TOSCGameTextUpdate11.exe
3. Dudley fixpacks
I'm not sure if GameTextUpdate is included in Tutufix, and I would really like to have it working properly.
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Installing Baldurdash should actually be done before the conversion, but Dudleyfix shouldn't be installed at any time.
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I decided to have a break from BG2 and replay BG with Tutu ... so ... had to reinstall Tutu. I didn't bother removing the BG2 mods this time (yeah, I know) and hit a problem with the unpacking of the tutufix. It told me no .tp2 file. I knew damn well there was a .tp2 file unpacked because I could see it (named tutufix.tp2) but the installer couldn't. So I crossed my fingers and renamed it to (setup~whatever.tp2) and it worked! I was surprised. Later on, the same thing happened with both Finch and Indira, so I just did the same thing. Been playing it with Finch now for a couple of hours and she seems to be working fine. So does everything else (unfortunately including the assassins).
I have my fingers still crossed that Tutu will continue to work ok but I hate to think what's going to happen when I want to play BG2 again. :P
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I know that both Indira and Tutufix ship with a .tp2 named "Setup-blah.tp2". Very strange.
But you do have things working, right? Which version of the fixpack are you using? (I ask because I'm hoping that v12 is finally the one that doesn't hideously break things when de-greenifying water.)
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Installing Baldurdash should actually be done before the conversion, but Dudleyfix shouldn't be installed at any time.
That should be highlighted Ghrey. Dudley is mentioned in the "how to make a clean install" thread, but it will not work with Tutu at this time.
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Installing Baldurdash should actually be done before the conversion, but Dudleyfix shouldn't be installed at any time.
That should be highlighted Ghrey. Dudley is mentioned in the "how to make a clean install" thread, but it will not work with Tutu at this time.
Good call. I've edited those instructions. Thanks.
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I know that both Indira and Tutufix ship with a .tp2 named "Setup-blah.tp2". Very strange.
But you do have things working, right? Which version of the fixpack are you using? (I ask because I'm hoping that v12 is finally the one that doesn't hideously break things when de-greenifying water.)
Very strange but probably due to the BG2 mods (or my computer's sense of humour).
Fixpack v.12 - working perfectly, by the way, thanks. No crashes at all so far. One strange problem is that the game is pausing badly in some areas (well, only 2 so far), so I've left them to a minimum. Everything else is working fine.
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Explain "pausing badly", please.
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Ummm ... <tries to think of a way to explain what's happening> ... the party walks very, very slowly and then the game locks and when it releases again, they're at the point I told them to be at. It's very jerky and rough and I gave up on those areas apart from doing the necessary (one of them was the gnoll stronghold). It's like the party is "teleported" a very short distance from their starting point to where I want them, instead of walking there. Individual characters walk normally but the party doesn't.
I hope that makes some sense. It's a hard thing to put into words and I've been awake longer than I should have been. :P
In all other respects, the affected areas work normally.
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I think Domi had this problem, and her fix was to shut off a bunch of animation extras. Try shutting things off one by one in the config program to see which one causes your problem?
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Okay, thanks.
How come it only screws up in certain areas?
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Haven't a clue. :(
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does this work with Dark side of the sword coast?
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Never mind
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Would it be possible for some sort of automated installer to be designed that would check to see if all the proper files (and biffs) are in the right place prior to the install? Maybe even have the installer ask for the CDs to install the required files if they aren't there. Unfortunately the installation method for Tutu reminds me somewhat of the installation method for BP (though not to the same degree).
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I think someone posted a method, but I forget where. At any rate, Tutu v6 isn't coming for a while now, so there's not much point.
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Installing Baldurdash should actually be done before the conversion, but Dudleyfix shouldn't be installed at any time.
Damn. Does that explain the tutufix core bugfix "_Narrat.cre not found" error message? I got it with both v9 and v13. <sighs>. At least I'm only as far as the Friendly Arm Inn <thinks about having to do a complete TotSC reinstall - again>.
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Yep, having Dudleyfix installed results in not finding _narrat.cre.
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Yeah, Dudleyfix is responsible for the _narrat.cre error, and a few others of a similar nature that'll crop up if you fix the _narrat.cre bug.
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Bum. :( TotSC; meet the uninstaller...... :P
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Hey yall, i seem to have aproblem when im installing tutu, when ive pressed the tutu exe to start the installation then it backs up the folders and starts to install then after a few minutes of intalling its sais someting which i dont get a chance to read and the only thing that shows up is a "bringback" file in the tutu folder and opening it with wordpad it sais D:\Bg1 which is the folder where bg 1 is installed could anyone shed some light in this matter as i really wan tot get tutu to work. Thnx.
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Ok i figured that one out however when i install bg tutu when its about to install in bg 1 folder it cant find the files or something like that anyone know what causes that problem?
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There is a bg1tutu.log file in your BG2 folder which lists the error messages.
when its about to install in bg 1 folder
I don't exactly understand what you mean... ???
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Mmm how shall i explain, when you open up tutu.exe so it starts to install then after a couple of minutes when its been copying files for a while, it goes really fast saying something like Bg1......................File not found. It is several of those so it lasts for a second thats why i could read it. But it is like it cant find some files in the folder where i have installed Bg1 and totsc. At first it seems to just be copying files in teh bg2 folder i think? but then when it goes to the bg1 folder it shows that files not ofund and then it turns itself off. Any more clear?
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The error messages that went by so fast are stored in the bg1tutu.log file.
Did you check that it copied all files from the CD on install? (The list is in that "The complete list of BIFF files" thread.)
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Cant say ive checked that but i know i made a full install.
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Just a small question. The readme says to install BG1 mods before running tutu, and BG1TuTu mods afterwards.
Therefore the mods listed here: http://www.pocketplane.net/modlist/index.php?ax=list&cat_id=98 must be installed... after running Tutu?
Thanks.
Edit: Or I should install after running Tutu only the mods listed here: http://www.pocketplane.net/mambo/index.php?option=content&task=blogcategory&id=134&Itemid=94 ?
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Both lists are not really different things, except that the Modlist contains, I think, a few more items.
Those mods listed there you should, generally, install after Tutu.
I haven't any experience with those working for both BG1 and Tutu, esp. Secrets of Bone Hill and Grey Clan, though.
Mods to install before Tutu would be those made for BG1 without Tutu, listed here (http://www.pocketplane.net/modlist/index.php?ax=list&cat_id=19) in the Modlist.
Not all are working with Tutu, though, and Tutu versions of a mod should be preferred (when running Tutu, of course).
Denson: What does the logfile read?
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Thanks Cas. After reading all the readmes and a first attempt of installing Tutu, I figured out the installation procedure. As you said most of them detect Tutu so it is no problem, others were a bit misleading in their install procedure, but I should be fine now.
This should be my installation order unless I change something last moment. Please let me know if you see something wrong, I'll install this tomorrow most likely.
[BG1 Folder]
Baldurdash Fixpack
Baldurdash Textupdate
[BG2 Folder (Override)]
BG2fix_complete
[BG2 Folder]
Tutu v.4
[BGTutu Folder]
Tutu Fixpack v.13
Tutu Tweaks v.12
Restored BG1 Sounds v.3
BG1 NPC v.8
Cleric Remix v.088
Song & Silence v.1
Sirine’s Call v.2
The Grey Clan Episode I v.175
Slime Quest
Iron Modder Tutu
Lost Items v.1
Vault v.4
Herbs and Potions
BP-BGT Worldmap (for Tutu)
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Hi there,
A bit of inconsistency in the downloading and installation instructions - the tutu homepage says that the latest version is v4 and gives links to that (and says that you have to run BG1 and BG2 once each to populate something or other), but the "readme" and its installation instructions are for v5, which includes dudleyfixes (but doesn't say you have to run BG1 and BG2 once each before installing tutu). Is v5 an alpha release, or is the homepage out of date?
Thanks,
James
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The v5 of Tutu was buggy, so it's been abandoned/postponed. Use Tutu v4 - it works just fine.
BTW - could someone change the Tutu page, puh-lease? This question has been asked a lot lately and could be avoided (or at least lessened) in the future if there wasn't conflicting info on that page.
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Hey, to anyone reading, please help my semi computer literate self. I've followed all the instructions in the readme to the point where I'm supposed to run tutu. I do and after a few seconds it just shuts off. The log file shows this:
WeiDU v 128 Log
C:\games\rpg\BG II ToB\bg1tutu.exe
BG1Tutu (Beta v4)
*** Reading Global Configuration ***
[bg1tutu/configuration] parsed (14 rules)
Parsing baldur.ini in BG1 directory...
[C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC/baldur.ini] loaded, 1167 bytes
[C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC/baldur.ini] loaded, 1167 bytes
[C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC/chitin.key] loaded, 238496 bytes
[C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC/chitin.key] 159 BIFFs, 16694 resources
[C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC/dialog.tlk] loaded, 3407220 bytes
[C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC/dialog.tlk] 24124 string entries
[C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC/Baldur.ini] loaded, 1167 bytes
Possible CD Path: [C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC\]
Possible CD Path: [C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC\]
Possible CD Path: [C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC\]
Possible CD Path: [C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC\]
Possible CD Path: [C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC\]
Possible CD Path: [C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC\]
[C:\games\rpg\BG TotSC/Keymap.ini] loaded, 4277 bytes
ERROR: Failure("unsupported infinity engine variant")
Converted 0/16694 = 0%
parsing rules 0.010
main 0.410
TOTAL 0.420
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okay, I got past that (so did all the other people who posted with the same problem. I loose at internet.)
Anyway, now tutu is saying the game isn't patched, even when it is. Off to download a diferent patch it seems.
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finally got it working. Seems the problem was tutu wants the patch to be placed in the BGII directory BEFORE you run it otherwise it doesn't accept the game has been patched. That and if it messes up and doesn't install you need to remove the game and reinstall it.
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finally got it working. Seems the problem was tutu wants the patch to be placed in the BGII directory BEFORE you run it otherwise it doesn't accept the game has been patched. That and if it messes up and doesn't install you need to remove the game and reinstall it.
Funnily enough, if the game hasn't actually been patched Tutu won't accept it as patched.
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It was patched. way to misread what I wrote there. I had the patch stored in my documents and was running it from there and tutu wouldn't accept it. Once I moved the patch to the bgII directory everything worked fine.
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The problem must have been something else, fixed coincidentally. Tutu doesn't require the patch to be run from the game folder.
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HEY YA, i was installing the tutu (v4) and the tutufix (v15). It went quite well up to installing the tutu, but when i got to the tutufix, following msg comes up and won't install.
ERROR locating resource for 'COPY'
Resource [FW0118.ARE] not found in KEY file:
[./chitin.key]
Stopping installation because of error.
is it something i haven't done? or something i did wrong?
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HEY YA, i was installing the tutu (v4) and the tutufix (v15). It went quite well up to installing the tutu, but when i got to the tutufix, following msg comes up and won't install.
ERROR locating resource for 'COPY'
Resource [FW0118.ARE] not found in KEY file:
[./chitin.key]
Stopping installation because of error.
is it something i haven't done? or something i did wrong?
Same problem with me. Help needed, please! :0
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I take that back. It's the same problem but with the file _ingwolf.itm
What can I do?
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Same problem with _ingwolf.itm here. Tried to convert a BG1 install with BG1 Baldurdash fixpack to BG+ToB with BG2 Baldurdash fixpack. Tutu seemed to work, tutufix not so.
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Same here. Non-TotSC.
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Well I've installed tutufix v13 until v16 is released (or a fix to make v15 work), along with the BGI GUI and 1027x768 resolution and its just dreamy, everything is working great, I'm really enjoying myself :)
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I'm having a similar problem, only mine goes:
ERROR locating resource for 'COPY'
Resource [_xann29.wav] not found in KEY file:
[./chitin.key]
Stopping installation because of error.
Using 5-disc, no TotSC version
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Which version of the fixpack are you using? That's a typo that should be changed to have 3 'n's I believe.
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v15. I browsed the forums a bit and saw a post suggesting removing a line in one of the files, I did that, that seemed to fix it, but a new error about _tiax not being found in the KEY (or similar, I don't have the file up to transcribe from). There was a post I found about fixing that, but it was for v13 and I couldn't figure out how to apply it to v15.
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I add that I tried v13, but by the time I'd added /*'s around everything it couldn't find in KEY file and managed to thusly get the CoreBugfixes installed, it crashed upon launching.
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can you install tutu over a modded bg2 tob?
I really don't want to reinstall both games.
cheers