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Posted by: jester
« on: May 05, 2005, 04:20:54 PM »

Thanks, Sim. So it was the Ghost of the Tactics Past which haunted me.
Posted by: Mr.WaeseL
« on: May 05, 2005, 03:07:11 PM »

Tactics adds the Minor Avatar of Sekolah.

Yup that's the one. I think Kurtulmak's avatar (fully formed or not) should be less powerful than that, though, since it's unavoidable.
Posted by: SimDing0™
« on: May 05, 2005, 02:47:47 PM »

Tactics adds the Minor Avatar of Sekolah.
Posted by: jester
« on: May 05, 2005, 02:45:13 PM »

@devsin: No, I don't mean the Kuo-Toa-prince in the UD, but the creature that joins the fight when you attack the priestess smack in the middle of the Sahuagin City. I provide a screenshot next time I pass through there.
Posted by: NiGHTMARE
« on: May 05, 2005, 02:11:06 PM »

Shangalar is second in command of the Rune, a fellow lich called Ranghaun being the leader.  The Rune was founded by yet another lich, Rysellan, though Ranghaun killed him some time ago.

What isn't made clear by BG2 is that Shangalar is actually a tiefling lich ;).
Posted by: devSin
« on: May 05, 2005, 02:02:17 PM »

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except for maybe Big Cheeses like Eliminster and Khelben, no one's even heard of them
You forgot to include the Trademeet militia. They must be more powerful than they seem. :D

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I just wish I knew how high-ranking a member Shangalar was... and what on Toril the Rune wanted with skinned peasants.
He was fairly high-level, but not the head honcho. Someone once posted detailed stats somewhere for all the members of the Rune that were in Baldur's Gate II. It was an interesting read.

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Isn't that the blurred dark Sahuagin which helps the priestess in the Underwater City?
Unless some mod adds this to the City-of-Caverns, I think you may be confusing this with the kuo-toan prince in the Underdark (who is initially both black and blurred).
Posted by: jester
« on: May 05, 2005, 12:18:52 PM »

I guess that is not UB. Isn't that the blurred dark Sahuagin which helps the priestess in the Underwater City?
Posted by: Jerrit
« on: May 05, 2005, 12:15:54 PM »

I don't blame them.  The Twisted Rune is one of Faerun's secret organizations that actually is secret.  No one knows who they are or what they want, and except for maybe Big Cheeses like Eliminster and Khelben, no one's even heard of them.  (Also except for omniscient gamers.  ^^')  The leaders (at least, the leaders as high up as we've been told) are mostly very old, very powerful liches and demiliches.  They were founded by Rysellan the Dark, and they generally have their dark hands in everything.  Everything.  I seem to remember that they have complete control over the government of Calimshan (I think), and they have all of the Zhentarim on their leash, though neither the Zhents nor the Calimshites have any idea who they're working for.

I just wish I knew how high-ranking a member Shangalar was... and what on Toril the Rune wanted with skinned peasants.

Oh, and Sekolah is the Sahuagin shark-god.  I wasn't aware that his avatar ever was supposed to make an appearance in BG2. 
Posted by: Andyr
« on: May 05, 2005, 11:34:14 AM »

As long as it's more sane than the Minor Avatar of Sekolah, I wouldn't mind seeing it. I know Spellhold is supposed to be a doddle, but do we have to go as low as roadkill Kobolds and Xvarts? But I'd also like to repeat the "avatar not fully formed" statement and Kish's views on gratuitous deity fights.

What's this Sekolah thing?
Posted by: SixOfSpades
« on: May 04, 2005, 03:50:08 PM »

As long as it's more sane than the Minor Avatar of Sekolah, I wouldn't mind seeing it. I know Spellhold is supposed to be a doddle, but do we have to go as low as roadkill Kobolds and Xvarts? But I'd also like to repeat the "avatar not fully formed" statement and Kish's views on gratuitous deity fights.

I'd also like to point out that Dracandros's name literally means "Dragon-man," and therefore is just the type of screen name to have been chosen by somebody who made a lot of posts at the old BioWare forums, but wasn't too imaginative where names are concerned.
Posted by: devSin
« on: May 04, 2005, 09:31:11 AM »

Keep in mind that the Kurtulmak poof thing already says something along the lines of "avatar not fully formed." So I'm not sure there ever was supposed to be the super-tough real avatar.
Posted by: Mr.WaeseL
« on: May 04, 2005, 07:24:56 AM »

Those stats are actually pretty decent, if you remove the blurb about weapon breakage and gnomes, and maybe make the spear +3.
Posted by: NiGHTMARE
« on: May 04, 2005, 07:05:26 AM »

Well, these are his stats in pnp:

Kurtulmak's Avatar (Fighter 16, Priest 7)

Kurtulmak's avatar appears as a double normal-size kobold with a long, stingered tail and large horns which curve backwards from his forehead.  His skin is mottled black and gren.  His priest spells are drawn from all spheres (reversed when appropriate).

Strength: 18/30
Dexterity: 17
Constitution: 15
Intelligence: 16
Wisdom: 9
Charisma: 19

Movement Rate: 12
Size: Medium (5' 6")
Magic Resistance: 35%
Armor Class: -1
Hit Dice: 15
Hit Points: 120
Attacks Per Round: 3
THAC0: 5
Damage: 2d12 +4 (spear), 1d6 (tail)

Special Attack/Defense: The avatar's skin is very tough with scales of steel, and edged weapons below +2 enchantment are 25% likely to break when struck against it.  The avatar can smell gnomes up to a mile away, and is permanently enraged by gnomes if able to see or fight them.  In his enraged state, Kurtulmak's avatar cannot be forced to leave combat with a gnome or a group of creatures including gnomes by any means, including all magical means.  He has an aura of fear which forces enemies within 20 feet to save versus spells (-4 penalty for gnomes) or flee in panic.  His tail has a poisonous stinger, and he carries a spear +4.
Posted by: Mr.WaeseL
« on: May 04, 2005, 05:44:01 AM »

If you are going to replace the kobold with the true avatar, what are you going to make him? A high-level kobold?
Posted by: Andyr
« on: April 18, 2005, 07:12:39 PM »

For Kurtulmak (should be easy), Valeria (dunno *what* to restore, really) or both? Could do the former I guess. :)