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Posted by: Kismet
« on: June 22, 2005, 07:26:46 AM »

Didn't we finish this arguement a while back?  In any case, we inadvertantly gave him maxed out hp; Lu caught this and called us on it; we lowered his hp to something a bit more reasonable.  If, when we release the mod, you still don't like the quantity of his hp, then feel free to yell at us some more.
Posted by: Kuemper
« on: June 22, 2005, 07:11:55 AM »

It looks like there's two camps here - those who want Cailean to have his full hp and those who want him to not.

I want the hp! Is there a way you can make it an option in installing or something?

{Do you want to install component}
{Y}es {N}o {I}nstall {U}install

{Do you want to install component}
{Y}es {N}o {I}nstall {U}install

I think max/high hp are a sign of a good constitution. There's that darn rp aspect creeping in again.  :D

But then, if he's as good as the other mods you've written/coded, his hp won't matter to me. <suck up>  :-*
Posted by: Ghreyfain
« on: June 22, 2005, 05:48:09 AM »

Good sir, I do belive Corvis has pwned you.  I will now proced to slepo
Posted by: Operadragon
« on: June 22, 2005, 12:09:20 AM »

You know, there is no reason for calling a conscious decision "half-assed."

As it is, I believe that Kismet and St. Josephine are doing way more than they should by even posting it for discussion. Just labelling it with a flippant comment is not good commentary, nor does it add to the discussion to any constructive degree.

To say what you did is an indictment of these two hard-working ladies, as if the number of HP that Cailean ends up with is assigned as an afterthought.

I believe the appropriate response is that the comment in question is indeed, "half-assed."

« on: June 21, 2005, 11:40:31 PM »

You don't do something half-assed just because someone else can fix it later.
Posted by: Drew
« on: May 28, 2005, 02:48:14 PM »

ya know, if they don't change the hp there's always shadowkeeper, or that wonderful component in G3 tweaks that gives full HP to every creature in the game! ;D  I don't think anybody would just "not play the mod" because they don't like his hit points.  If you're modding your game already you probably have an editor anyway, just in case the feces hits the proverbial oscillating unit and you need to fix it. If whatever the folks here choose to do regarding his hit points bugs you changing it yourself will really be no big deal. 8)
Posted by: Lord Kain
« on: March 29, 2005, 12:12:15 AM »

This is my Impression of the fourm in cow.

Cow 1# "Moo"

Cow 2# "Moo"

Cow 1# "Moo!"

Cow 2# "MOO!"

Cow 1# "MOO!!!"

Cow 2# "MOO!!!!!!!!!!"

And the farmer sharpens her butcher knife
Posted by: Kismet
« on: March 22, 2005, 07:45:01 AM »

Enough sniping, folks.  Everyone is welcome to comment, question, criticize or praise anything about Cailean that springs to mind.  We may or may not agree with what you say, but we'll certainly listen. 

However, slamming people who are on the opposite side of the issue from you or who express themselves in ways that are not to your taste  is not the way to go about it.  In a text only medium it can be difficult to get across exactly *how* you mean something.  If someone posts something that you think is rude, don't immediately hit the reply button; instead step back, take a deep breath or two and consider what they're really saying.  If you still think they're being rude and you have nothing else on topic to say, then bring it to PM.

To semi-quote my dad "Don't make me pull this forum over!" :)
Posted by: jester
« on: March 22, 2005, 04:23:57 AM »

@Operadragon: Yessir, nice prep speech! Though not entirely a wet blanket of your definition I don't think anyone doubted for a minute that Cailean will be a blast, but I still think that forums are a very good feedback option. If some people care about Valen's eye colour or Cailean's HPs I fail to see how that makes them lesser roleplayers than your definition suggests. Being insulting yourself does not take the heat out of any debate.

If somebody feels compelled to adress an issue, s/he should raise it and those who also care about it can argue, praise or taunt within the forum's limits. Others who are not interested in the topic simply shun it and it dies. Otherwise I totally agree with what Ashara said above: Do as you please.... and pronto! :D

Unrelated sidenote: Black Isle get another slap with a stinky tuna for using the word 'fascist' in Icewind Dale. :(
Posted by: Veloxyll
« on: March 22, 2005, 01:44:11 AM »

A slinky on an escalator...INFINITE FUN!
Posted by: Slayne
« on: March 21, 2005, 09:03:41 PM »

Slinky > Fun ball

Wonder how well a Slinky would work on an esculator...
Posted by: Operadragon
« on: March 16, 2005, 01:34:29 PM »

Well said, Bons.

As for my unique perspective, in which I'm on the team...yet not a developer, I know for a fact that Kis & St. Jo have working themselves very hard on making this MOD *just* right.

Additionally, the pelting they are taking over this HP issue is really not cool. The fact that they *aren't* saying "%&#$ off, we'll do it the way we like," says volumes about them as developers.  I agree that good balance is a key factor in scripting the individual battles that are part of the MOD's progress, but if the battles have to be harder *just* in order to have fun, then that's a shortsighted approach to game balance.  If this character has higher HP, yet still has a low AC, or is more susceptible to being critically hit, then there is little cause to moan over statistics of one NPC that was part of the original game, and the other being a MODded NPC, bottom line is that it's apples and oranges. 

This real issue here is that Kis & St. Jo think that this topic is important enough to carefully consider tweaking the entire MOD, just because a few of the natives are restless.  I know as a quasi-insider, that they will give this subject its due, and *might* change things up.  Then again, they *might* not.  That's their decision, and theirs alone.  If there are some of those people out there who wouldn't play the MOD because of this small issue, then they're making a big mistake, because the story's compelling, the writing is amazing, the voice acting is quality (and I don't mean my job personally), and there is a *lot* of work that has gone into the development of this character. I can honestly say that I've never voiced a character that was so easy to get into, simply because of the backstory of the character is so well developed, and the voice direction is the easiest I've ever had to follow...ever. 

So bottom line: This is going to be a lot of fun to play, listen, watch, and enjoy.  So the few wet blankets out there, get over yourselves, suspend disbelief, and actually *roleplay*.  I know it's a new concept for some, but you have lots more fun when you quit worrying about stats and immerse yourself in the game and the story.


P.S. Folks, if you're going to continue tossing insulting remarks at each other, find another forum...on another site...or another planet, even. Nicely put, play nice, children...or get sent to Mr. Mackey's office. :P    -BDV
Posted by: icelus
« on: March 16, 2005, 10:48:55 AM »

It's happy!  It's fun!  It's Happy Fun Ball!!!

(I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers that.  :))
Posted by: Xiao
« on: March 16, 2005, 10:04:13 AM »

You know, after seeing this thread topic come up so much, I now have that old song "96 Tears" running through my head.  Over and over.  Except that, it's such an old song, only part of the chorus and part of a verse can be recalled.  Due to this horror, I felt compelled to share it with all of you.  Anyway, thanks a freaking lot. :P

One more thing: "do not taunt Happy Fun Ball!"  Yikes.
Posted by: Lu
« on: March 16, 2005, 09:54:32 AM »

  why didn't you post this in yasraena's forum at CoM?  you *really* hate her, eh?  well, although I am loathe to employ a cliche, "get over yourself."

   To begin with, I do not often visit forums other than PPG, and have never posted elsewhere
   But frankly, I read the discussion about Yasraena's STR at CoM and got a strong impression that
 starting a new one would be useless, to say the least
   Furthermore, why would I hate something I'm barely familiar with? Anyway, trying to decide what
 I love and what I hate doesn't speak well of your manners. But it's your problem, not mine
   However, I seek no confrontation here.  So, why don't you explain Yasraena's additional attack per round instead?