Author Topic: Balthazar  (Read 4652 times)

Rick

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Balthazar
« on: November 22, 2002, 07:21:54 AM »
I've been playing the Ascention and I was able to defeat Balthazar, but I can't have him join me. I tried about 10 times and i'm been able to let balthazar commit suicide, but i just doesn't join me
please help                    

Althernai

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Balthazar
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2002, 10:09:12 AM »
Read the ReadMe - it's in the spoilers section. I think you must have a high reputation (18 or more) and high Wisdom and Charisma (15 or more). Also, you should be of either good or neutral alignment.                    

Guest

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Balthazar
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2002, 11:04:15 AM »
hmm, i checked my stats and they are high enough.
Can you please give me the proper dialogue numbers (in the right order)?                    

Kish

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Balthazar
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2002, 12:47:24 PM »
Sure.  This is massive spoilers, of course.

First choice:
Reputation greater than 6: But I am not evil!  I am a force of good and
justice!
Reputation 6 or less: You sound like a hypocrite to me, sentencing those
you have no right to judge!

Second choice:

You would make us out to be victims of circumstance rather than masters
of our own destiny.

Third choice:
You don't honestly see yourself as the force of righteousness in all
this, do you?

Fourth choice:
Look at the suffering you have brought to Amkethran!  Your monks
terrorize the innocent at your command!  You hire soulless mercenaries
that cut down the innocent at the slightest provocation!  And all for
nothing!  You call these the actions of a good man?

Fifth choice:
Wisdom 14-, Charisma 15-, Alignment Good:
And what becomes of Melissan, then?  Is she free to raise Bhaal and
complete her plans?
Wisdom 14-, Charisma 15-, Reputation 18+:
And what becomes of Melissan, then?  Is she free to raise Bhaal and
complete her plans?
Wisdom 15+:
And what becomes of Melissan, then?  Is she free to raise Bhaal and
complete her plans?
or:
You don't have to do this, Balthazar.  We don't have to fight each
other.
Wisdom 14-, Charisma 16+, Alignment Nonevil:
And what becomes of Melissan, then?  Is she free to raise Bhaal and
complete her plans?
or:
You don't have to do this, Balthazar.  We don't have to fight each
other.

Sixth choice:
Wisdom 15+:
And you're going to stop her alone?  Have you given any thought to the
fact that maybe you've been helping her all along, that she's been
playing you like a harp?
or:
Alaundo's prophecy does not mean the Bhaalspawn must be destroyers,
Balthazar!  It also means we can stop the prophecy from becoming true, I
know this!
Wisdom 14-, Charisma 16+, Alignment Nonevil:
Then we should fight her together!  How do you know she still can't
summon Bhaal...everything you've fought for will be for nothing!
or:
You can walk away.  You can do what's right, Balthazar, what you know to
be right instead of what you've resigned yourself to.
Wisdom 14-, Alignment Good:
Yet another death added to your tally?  And what then, once you kill
her?  Once you have all that power and it's yours alone...you think
you're going to resist that?
Wisdom 14-, Reputation 18+:
Yet another death added to your tally?  And what then, once you kill
her?  Once you have all that power and it's yours alone...you think
you're going to resist that?

Seventh choice:
Join me, Balthazar.  Let us fight Melissan together, instead of doing
what she wants us to.                    

Assassin

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Balthazar
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2002, 11:03:49 PM »
Sorry... but while we're on the subject, what're the dialogues where you must say a certain thing in order for Sarevok to change alignment?                    

Kish

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Balthazar
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2002, 11:49:54 PM »
Each of the three dialogues where he asks you about morality.  The first time, tell him either that you don't believe in constraining others' wills, or that you aren't holding a grudge.  The second time, tell him that he'll be free to go and that he always has a choice.  The third time, tell him you don't want power.  Whatever you do, never sound disinterested in him.                    

Rick

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Balthazar
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2002, 02:31:49 PM »
I thank you for your help. I was really intreged by Balthazar and his spell-like abilities and i'm trying to create Balthazar as my main character, but i don't know how to do this.
Can someone please help me to create a Balthazar character with his spel-like abilities???

                   

angiras108

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Re: Balthazar
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2004, 11:46:36 PM »
Do you have to be of good or neutral alignment to get Balthazar to join? My PC is Neutral Evil...I can get my reputation up to 18. Will he join me with an 18 reputation and high charisma even though im neutral evil?

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Re: Balthazar
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2004, 11:59:42 PM »
If you say all the right things.
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Re: Balthazar
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2004, 08:07:19 AM »
If I'm not mistaken, I tried to get him to join me a few times as Neutral Evil, but I couldn't, although I could get him to kill himself. If you can't get him to join you but your character is really Good (only you did some Tears of Bhaal tests wrongly), you can use Shadow Keeper to remove your Alignment Change under your Char effects, it should revert to Good (or whatever Alignment you actually were)
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MoonElf

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Re: Balthazar
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2004, 09:31:41 AM »
I thank you for your help. I was really intreged by Balthazar and his spell-like abilities and i'm trying to create Balthazar as my main character, but i don't know how to do this.
Can someone please help me to create a Balthazar character with his spel-like abilities???

                    

I believe the refinements mod and the oversight mod both give you monk high level abilities similar to Balthazars.

http://www.pocketplane.net/oversight

http://www.refinements.tk

 

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