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alson

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The Eclipse party
« on: August 18, 2002, 10:23:51 AM »
The Eclipse party is not so scary, guys! With the right tactic, of course :P
I've just beaten them, on my first try! :)
I have a party of six:
Cavalier (me)
Ranger/Cleric (custom)
Swashbuckler (immy)
Sola
Tashia
Seravok

I've beaten Sendai yesterday, and i was really looking forward to fighting the Eclipse party. I went back to Amkethran (sp?) to buy some scrolls, and  i knew that the Eclipse party will be my next challenge - so i set my Sequencers as follow:

Sola:
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Minor: Blur and Mirror Image. Ended up not even using it.
Sequncer: Greater Malison, Remove Magic, and... most importantly - Teleport Field! This sequencer was the big winner.
Trigger: Improved Haste, Mislead, and Prot. Magical Weapons. Havn't used either.
Chain: Remove Magic, 2xADHWs. This was also important.

Tashia:
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Sequencer: Again, Malison, Remove Magic, and the surprisingly efficient Teleport Field! putting another malison here was a mistake, because it doesn't stack - i should've put another Teleport Field.
Chain: Again, Remove Magic, 2xADHWs. A battle winner combo.

So, i was teleported to the area. Had the little dialogue with the party (great dialogue wes! best dialogue in game, better then the Beholder! :D),
and the battle began.
The Eclipse sorcerer throws a Dragon Breath on me. The only one i havn't protected from fire is Tashia! Big mistake, but she survives, with only ~15 HP left.
I immediately realeased both sequencers. The teleport field disables the fighters!! They still hurt me, but not so much as they can. The Teleport Field also teleports the Spellcasters near me. Pure luck!
The Chains are triggered. Unfortunately, their buffs don't seems to dispel, but the fighters buffs do, allowing the ADHWs to really hurt them, and kill the annoying shadows.
Everyone except Tashia Greater Whirlwind. Me and Seravok are equipped with vorpal weapons - the Ravanger and the Axe of the Unyielding. The vorpal effect cuts thorugh stone/ironskins, so i target the Sorcerer, and Seravok targets the Druid. Since we're whirlwinding, the chance of a vorpal effect is high - and indeed, both the Druid and the Sorcerer die.
Meanwhile, Tashia sets another Chain, this time with 3x ADHWs. The Chain is triggered, and brings the Anti-Paladin and the Barb to Badly Injured. The Kensai died!
Total Eclipse. DAMN!
I pause the game, and i see that the buffs from my Ranger/Cleric, Tashia, and Seravok are dispelled. The fighters kills Tashia and the Ranger/Cleric. Meanwhile, Sola, who is immune to the Timestop, GWW and kills the Barb, who totally ignores him.
The Cleric brings Seravok to about 12 HP left - but i have nobody to heal him! No time to run to the R/C body and get the Rod of Resurrection, too.
Seravok, being the brave warrior he is, does not retreat, and GWW again. he attacks the AP, and after two blows... I see a white soul coming out of the him, too.
5 down, one more to go!
The Cleric is isolated.
I still have Sola, Seravok, Immy (the Swash) and me. We all WW and attack him.
Another Total Eclipse.
His globe of blades kills Seravok, but the rest survive. When time flows again, he died.
I lost Tashia, the R/C and Seravok, but still - it was indeed a glorious battle! :)

Here are the keys for victory, IMHO:
(Oh, and i played on core)
* Teleport Field!! The fighters are all really tough, and this spells will help to Disable them.
* Remove, Remove, and Remove - the whole party is heavily buffed - if you won't dispel it, you will die. Simple. And don't use dispel - they will try to dispel your buffs, so don't help them. They do it well enough.
* Chain area affect spells - you want to hurt them all, and you want to do it fast. The best way for this is Chaining ADHWs.
* Vorpal weapons -  these weapons are always great, we all know it, but when it also cuts through stoneskins - which is a great way to kill the spellcasters. Use them with GWW - it will increase the chances of success.

Well, this is it. My tips for the Eclipse fight.
Eventually, it's all about the right tactic. I was just lucky i found it fast.
 
Oh, and Wes - Well done! It must be the best fight i ever fought! :)
I love the dialogue!


                   

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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2002, 11:43:19 AM »
al, buddy...here is a tactic taken from wes....

GIGGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

spell immunity abjuration will prevent eclipse from dispelling YOUR buffs!!!!

thanks for tip on telly field....  :o  :unsure:  :)  B)  :P  :huh:  :D  ;)                    

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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2002, 11:49:22 AM »
ok, how did you kill the wraiths???

sunbeam???

also, may i suggest you try using regen for tashia and stacked prot from energy and elemental protection on ALL weaker characters who are not already immune to fire???

even with balderdash fix packs, if you stack prot from el and energy, you will get over 100 percent fire protection, and a nice 80, i think protection from enemy abu dahzim and skulls...

did mislead keep enemy from targetting mages, or did they get true sighted quickly???

good going, i will now spread teh word about telly field.... :rolleyes:  :D                    

alson

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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2002, 12:22:41 PM »
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al, buddy...here is a tactic taken from wes....

GIGGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

spell immunity abjuration will prevent eclipse from dispelling YOUR buffs!!!!

Yes, I thought about it...
AFTER THE BATTLE!!! :rolleyes:
:D

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thanks for tip on telly field....

You welcome!                    

alson

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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2002, 12:29:28 PM »
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ok, how did you kill the wraiths???
Alot of ADHWs :D

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also, may i suggest you try using regen for tashia and stacked prot from energy and elemental protection on ALL weaker characters who are not already immune to fire???

even with balderdash fix packs, if you stack prot from el and energy, you will get over 100 percent fire protection, and a nice 80, i think protection from enemy abu dahzim and skulls...

Yes, i forgot about Regeneration.... Oh well, i still have the Ascension Final Battle to use it... :D                    

Littiz

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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2002, 06:18:20 AM »
A brilliant work, Alson!
You're an awesome player!
Congrats again!

Do you think that trying Eclipse without Chain Cheese and without pre-buffing
will be asking to much? :P  
 :unsure:   :D
Ok, I'll try anyway.........
If you're warned about the battle, I'll allow myself pre-buffing, at least.....                    

alson

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2002, 10:53:54 AM »
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A brilliant work, Alson!
You're an awesome player!
Congrats again!

Do you think that trying Eclipse without Chain Cheese and without pre-buffing
will be asking to much? :P  
 :unsure:   :D
Ok, I'll try anyway.........
If you're warned about the battle, I'll allow myself pre-buffing, at least.....
                   Dont underestimate yourself, littiz.
Beating the Ascension final battle with only 3 chars is a bigger achievement!  :)

And, without chain - for me, hardly.
But prebuffing - sure, i did it with only stoneskins and some prot. from fire.                    

Userunfriendly

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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2002, 04:04:48 AM »
ok, did you guys init eclipse when you wanted to or actually wait for it to auto trigger???

its so much easier if you init when you were ready, and had just buffed up...

i curretnly got bun bun 5 up and running fine...

the inquisitor immunites all work, and increased acuity as a perminent effect sure makes many battles easy...in one round attack with g whirlwind, holy might, and kai...

maybe add poison weapon in ver 5.1....giggle...

havent even hit underdark yet, having fun stacking 8 dragon breaths to beat kangazz guardians...                    

Littiz

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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2002, 09:56:49 AM »
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Dont underestimate yourself, littiz.
Beating the Ascension final battle with only 3 chars is a bigger achievement!

I frankly consider that my masterpiece of strategy
and ...... "elegance"! B)

But, WAY more than just ONE try was needed! :rolleyes: :P                    

alson

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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2002, 03:52:19 PM »
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Dont underestimate yourself, littiz.
Beating the Ascension final battle with only 3 chars is a bigger achievement!

I frankly consider that my masterpiece of strategy
and ...... "elegance"! B)

But, WAY more than just ONE try was needed! :rolleyes: :P
LOL...  More then one WEEK, IIRC... :D

@Wes - how about making the Eclipse party 'Death Warded'?
They are very powerful indeed, but they just fall TOO easily to weapons like Ravanger +6 and Unyielding +5...  (OTOH, anything falls easily to these weapons :P)
Maybe Death Ward on Core, Hard, and Insane only?
                   

Aubrey

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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2002, 12:14:18 AM »
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Maybe Death Ward on Core, Hard, and Insane only?

Alson,

I play on Core. Don't even think about it. :angry:  But you can think of

Death Ward on Hard and Insane...  with my permission, of course. :P  :D                    

Littiz

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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2002, 03:24:19 AM »
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LOL... More then one WEEK, IIRC...

A week without Sunday actually...
About three reloads/day, considering how long a single try may last! :rolleyes: :D                    

alson

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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2002, 06:52:30 AM »
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Maybe Death Ward on Core, Hard, and Insane only?

Alson,

I play on Core. Don't even think about it. :angry:  But you can think of

Death Ward on Hard and Insane...  with my permission, of course. :P  :D
                   LOL...  :D
OK, accepted... Death Ward on Hard and Insane makes sense.
Wes?                    

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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2002, 03:26:35 PM »
I'll put it on the todo list.                    

Aubrey

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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2002, 02:01:19 AM »
Thank you, gentlemen.  :)

*deep bow*                    

alson

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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2002, 06:06:57 AM »
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I'll put it on the todo list.
                   As always, thank you Wes.                    

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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2002, 03:17:18 PM »
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From Release 70:
        * Eclipse guys now get Death Warded if you're on CORE or above.


Now, I suppose I have to take that "Thank you" back...  [_[
 :rolleyes:


                   

alson

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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2002, 01:34:37 AM »
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From Release 70:
        * Eclipse guys now get Death Warded if you're on CORE or above.


Now, I suppose I have to take that "Thank you" back...  [_[
 :rolleyes:
LOL!  :D  :P

Don't worry Aubrey, i'm sure you can beat it.
If all fails, lower the slider to NORMAL and use all the vorpal weapons available.                    

Aubrey

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2002, 02:24:14 AM »
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If all fails, lower the slider to NORMAL

... and say "goodbye" to my dignity, you mean?   [_[  :rolleyes:



                   

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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2002, 02:27:03 AM »
I missed the whole cord/hard distinction when I was making my todo list. The next version will move the death ward up to hard, leaving core as before. It wouldn't do to upset Aubrey.                    

alson

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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2002, 02:33:52 AM »
Thank you wes, for the consideration.
Any other comments on the battle?

Oh, and check your inbox, i sent you a PM.                    

Homunculus

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2002, 03:09:36 AM »
Many thanks. I've yet to have the showdown with the Eclipse gang, and would baulk at any increased difficulty (although I'm saving all my Mind Flayer control collars especially for the occasion). I'm far too timid to venture above "Core"; many encounters, such as the final fight in the Ascension, already require that I meekly slide the bar to the left to avoid becoming overly frustrated. I lack the patience and precious time available to wile away entire afternoons attempting single encounters (as I did with Improved Abazigal once) nowadays.                    

KaPe

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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2002, 08:31:25 AM »
Just one question: Is it possible to dispel death ward, or is it permament? If it's dispelable, than i don't see any problems... (haven't tried the new eclipse yet :rolleyes:  )                    

alson

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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2002, 09:10:30 AM »
Yes, Death Ward is dispellable.                    

Aubrey

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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2002, 04:31:12 PM »
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I missed the whole cord/hard distinction when I was making my todo list. The next version will move the death ward up to hard, leaving core as before. It wouldn't do to upset Aubrey.

Your consideration obliges me, Mr. Weimer, and I will humbly bow.. :)

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Thank you wes, for the consideration.

Now that's what I call a well-bred friend. :D  

Thank you, gentlemen. Hopefully this time I won't have to reconsider. :)



                   

 

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