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Offline Thimblerig

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Murder of Acton Balthis
« on: September 21, 2013, 07:30:05 AM »
Is it possible to finish this quest without

- Quataris calling his guards on you
- You killing the guards in self-defense, and
- You losing a whopping chunk of Reputation for said self-defense?

I mean, I tried immobilising them, but Quataris wouldn't talk about confessions until they were dead.

Have I missed something?

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2013, 07:43:32 AM »
Hey, welcome to PPG!

Thank you for reporting. Hmmm, now that's interesting. I killed these guys(guards) during testing, and no reputation loss happened. Will you please post your Weidu.log, so I could address this issue when I'm back from vacation?

You could also try pickpocketing Quataris and returning to Brega with the bust(I should probably add a line or two for THAT particular option, heheh).

(By the way, THIS report has a VERY good chance of being forgotten/overlooked, because it's not in the main bug thread).

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2013, 06:10:14 PM »
Sure.  Wasn't sure if it counted as a bug or not.

And thanks.

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2013, 12:16:37 AM »
It's definitely unintended behavior, so I'm going to check it out. Red circles are good, reputation loss is something I want to avoid. I have a feeling that Fixpack changes these guards to "innocents", which doesn't make sense to me, as they're 1) armed; 2) corrupt. Anyway, will check. I wish this laptop copied my exe files from my desktop properly, so I could do it in-game *today*, not after the vacation. Win8 sucks.

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2013, 11:25:14 AM »
The quest seems to be bugged: Haer'Dalis got arrested, I talked to inspector Brega, visited Balthis Estate and talked to his servant, after which I went to Waukeen's Promenade and got Quataris' confession; talked to Brega again, went to prison and got Haer'Dalis released - but the quest does not update as completed - Haer'Dalis does not even have any dialogue for the situation, only responding as if I am dropping him from the party. So, what's going on?

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2013, 12:33:20 AM »
Mmm. I had such an issue once, and reloading an auto-save fixed that. Will you try it?

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2013, 06:42:55 AM »
Unfortunately this doesn't help. I did some testing by loading a much earlier save and starting the quest all over again - it seems that Haer'Dalis has no new lines of dialogue other than those he spouts when he gets arrested ( I am under the impression that he is supposed to have a bunch of dialogue when you visit him in prison even before solving the murder) - I visited him in jail before solving the murder, but even then he just acts as if I am dropping him from the party.

I can confirm that Haer'Dalis' execution will happen if I take too much time and this will result in the quest being updated as being no longer active. So, I'm thinking - could I use CLUAConsole to get Haer'Dalis say whatever he is supposed to say when I get him released  and get the quest status updated?
« Last Edit: December 16, 2013, 10:08:17 AM by Thorass »

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2013, 09:36:52 PM »
Which install do you have, BG2 or BG2EE? I'm thinking the problem lies with Haer'Dalis's 9-letter filename, which normally worked in BG2, but I'm not so sure about BG2EE now. No, console won't help.

And I'll be happy to get your weidu.log and your saved game at kulyok,
at yandex.ru - but only if it's BG2.

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2013, 03:17:47 AM »
Which install do you have, BG2 or BG2EE? I'm thinking the problem lies with Haer'Dalis's 9-letter filename, which normally worked in BG2, but I'm not so sure about BG2EE now. No, console won't help.

And I'll be happy to get your weidu.log and your saved game at kulyok,
at yandex.ru - but only if it's BG2.

Well, it is the Enhanced Edition that I'm playing.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2013, 03:21:37 AM by Thorass »

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2013, 03:48:22 AM »
Uh-oh. I'll write Kaeloree and ask - we'll fix it, absolutely. In the meantime - I don't know, really, unless you would like to reload before the quest and set SetGlobal("O#UBHaerDalisQuestStart","GLOBAL",1000)

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2013, 04:01:56 AM »
That's fine; I'll just reload an earlier save.  8)

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2013, 01:15:08 AM »
:) I've spoken to Kaeloree and Avenger on this, and *hopefully* it was a one-time fluke, but all reports, help and information on this is very welcome. I've also opened a Q&A topic at G3.
http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showtopic=25972

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2013, 05:38:42 PM »
It doesn't seem to work correctly, no matter what: I even uninstalled the game and did a fresh installation with just the Murder of Acton Balthis component installed - no change to my situation with Haer'Dalis. :(

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2013, 06:57:38 AM »
I'm far and well away until the end of the holidays(~9th, if all goes well), so I'm afraid I can only recommend you to skip the quest entirely with the variable I provided. But I would be grateful if you zip your save folders for 1) before Haer'Dalis kidnapping 2) Haer'Dalis is in jail; together with your weidu.log file and send them to me at kulyok,
at yandex.ru (my mail).

@Folks, if you are more familiar with BG2EE than me, all suggestions are very much appreciated. :)

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2016, 05:24:31 AM »
Sorry for replying in this post, but I feel itīs unnecesarry to start new thread for my question  ;) which is: Should I install this component (murded of Acton Balthis) of Unfinished Business, when I want to also install HaerīDalis romance? Will there be some conflict/bug? I didnīt find anywhere if HaerīDalis romance mod contains this content ???

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2016, 10:06:26 AM »
I don't think they interact at all, no. Haer'Dalis is required to leave your party for a time, however, and it's up to the romance how to deal with it. Most probably it'll be okay, but no promises.

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Re: Murder of Acton Balthis
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2016, 07:41:59 AM »
Thanx  ;)

 

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