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Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« on: August 28, 2013, 11:23:49 AM »
It surprises me that this hasn't been explained in this section of the forums (and pinned)
So, how shall I copy original discs to make DVD's that can be used to install and play games? (BG1 with and without TotSC; BG2 with and without ToB; IWD1 with and without HoW)

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2013, 11:50:10 AM »
I am not sure it's as simple as just copying all files from data and movie folders one data/ and movie/ folder, because TotSC has its own installation process, and so does ToB, and so does HoW.
I would just create virtual drives and burn them somewhere, whether it's a spare hard drive, a flash drive, a Dropbox account or a DVD. Erm, if it's legal - but it's legal to create a copy of an old game that you own, a copy for your own personal use, right?

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2013, 12:08:58 PM »
I am not sure it's as simple [...]
Nor am I either, hence my question
As I said in the first post, I want to have DVD's that can be used to play the games, not only to install them
And of course it's legal (not that I'd give a f*ck if it wasn't) Don't worry, I am not going to sell them

« Last Edit: August 28, 2013, 12:35:33 PM by Lu »

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2013, 03:48:44 PM »
It surprises me that this hasn't been explained in this section of the forums (and pinned)
So, how shall I copy original discs to make DVD's that can be used to install and play games? (BG1 with and without TotSC; BG2 with and without ToB; IWD1 with and without HoW)

There's a thread over on SHS that discusses this: Single DVD Full Install for BG2 which I think also covers BG1.
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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2013, 04:21:00 PM »
Thanks for the link; yet I can't say I am satisfied
Firstly, they only discuss the matter considering BG1 WITH TotSC and SoA WITH ToB, never WITHOUT
Secondly, I would also like to back up IWD1 discs in the same manner (both WITH and WITHOUT HoW), and even IWD2 if possible (though of the latter I care far less)
And lastly, I do not want to read the discussion consisting of 30 or 40 posts, which is what they have there. I just want to see a plain explanation, kinda 'do this and that, and never do that, period'
Thanks for the link anyway, though
« Last Edit: August 28, 2013, 04:27:14 PM by Lu »

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2013, 04:23:52 PM »
Just drag and drop the content of your CDs to folders on your hard drive and then burn that to DVD using whatever software you have (Windows Media Player even). If you have two CD/DVD drives, you can skip the hard drive step, though it's usually wise anyway since hard drives have quicker speeds than optical disks. Edit: Since you are copying multiple disks to one disk (presumably), you will need to copy to the hard drive first anyway.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2013, 04:26:04 PM by Miloch »

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2013, 04:31:42 AM »
I just do a full install. I just make an ISO image of the disk I must keep in my CD drive, then I mount it in a virtual drive.
That way my CD drive is not monopolized by a disk I am not really using.

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2013, 11:38:05 AM »
Just drag and drop the content of your CDs to folders on your hard drive and then burn that to DVD using whatever software you have [...]
I did it with BG1 CD's (without TotSC) and it works perfectly. Must be OK for SoA without ToB and IWD without HoW. But for games with add-ons it must be done differently (TotSC/ToB/HoW is to be copied to the root directory, and the original CD's to a subdirectory. That's what I understood from the discussion at SHS, -- the link to it was given by Azazello a few posts above)

I just do a full install. I just make an ISO image of the disk I must keep in my CD drive, then I mount it in a virtual drive.
That way my CD drive is not monopolized by a disk I am not really using.
What's this ISO image of the disk and how do I make it?

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2013, 01:21:48 PM »
It surprises me that this hasn't been explained in this section of the forums (and pinned)

It surprises me that noone has mentioned that you can simply buy the games from gog.com and stop worrying about physical media for digital games.

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2013, 09:45:16 PM »
It surprises me that noone has mentioned that you can simply buy the games from gog.com and stop worrying about physical media for digital games.
It surprises me too, now that I've checked it out. Thanks for the info, Echon
Still, will it be available forever? And besides, by what I understood you can buy there full games but not the original ones (i.e without TotSC/ToB/HoW)

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2013, 09:55:51 PM »
For my opening question, -- if anyone is still interested, -- dumping BG1 5 CD's on DVD works perfectly for both installing and playing
As for TotSC, I copied this disk to the root directory (on another DVD) and 5 first CD's to one subdirectory. Now I can install the game using this (2nd) DVD but can't play it (it insists on seeing disk 1) so I have to use the first DVD. It seems to me, I should have copied some file from disk 1 to the root directory, but I didn't know which

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2013, 09:59:00 PM »
"What's this ISO image of the disk and how do I make it?"
The ISO "image" is the file that contains whatever is found on your CD. It is run from a Virtual Drive.
VirtualCD is one approach but I strike trouble with getting it to actually make the ISOs.
I normally use Daemon Tools Lite. It is freeware and handles both the creation of the ISO and mounting it into a virtual drive.

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2013, 10:04:19 PM »
And what's this Virtual Drive, then?

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2013, 10:54:37 PM »
An address and program that actually runs the ISO. It is not a physical drive like your CD or DVD drives.

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2013, 12:29:17 AM »
It surprises me too, now that I've checked it out. Thanks for the info, Echon
Still, will it be available forever? And besides, by what I understood you can buy there full games but not the original ones (i.e without TotSC/ToB/HoW)

Their games are all DRM free, so even if GOG.com folds in a couple of years you can still play your games. No, you cannoy buy the games without expansions but why would you want to?

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2013, 12:48:16 PM »
I mostly mean being able/unable to install SoA without ToB. Or is it possible when you buy it from gog.com?

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2013, 01:43:21 PM »
I mostly mean being able/unable to install SoA without ToB. Or is it possible when you buy it from gog.com?

No, ToB is not optional. Is that a problem?

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Re: Copying BioWare CD's on DVD's
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2013, 02:26:55 PM »
Sometimes, yeah. Namely, ToB version of the engine has certain features that are different from SoA (like mirror image animation, the presence of HLA), and I am not sure if it can be changed back to the SoA version

 

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