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Offline Cal Jones

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Just finished my first BG game with UB installed
« on: June 21, 2008, 07:47:53 AM »
While I'm quite experimental with BG2, I usually play BG unmodded, so I decided to give UB a whirl.
I played a LN fighter with the following party: Imoen, Ajantis, Kivan, Coran, Yeslick.

Game was patched and the following installed:

~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Mysterious Vial
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Additional Elminster Encounter
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // Angelo Notices Shar-teel
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Finishable Kagain Caravan Quest
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // Coran and the Wyverns
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Kivan and Tazok
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Branwen and Tranzig
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Appropriate Albert and Rufie Reward
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Place Entar Silvershield in His Home
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Scar and the Sashenstar's Daughter
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Quoningar, the Cleric
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Shilo Chen and the Ogre-Magi
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #14 // Edie, the Merchant League Applicant
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // Flaming Fist Mercenary Reinforcements
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Creature Restorations
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Creature Name Restorations
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Minor Dialogue Restorations
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Audio Restorations
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Store, Tavern and Inn Fixes and Restorations
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Item Corrections and Restorations
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Area Corrections and Restorations
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Permanent Corpses
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #25 // Elven Charm and Sleep Racial Resistance
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #26 // The Original Saga Music Playlist Corrections
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #27 // Sarevok's Diary Corrections

No other mods (not even Tutu - this is the non-Tutu version).

Several of the things worked fine (the vial quest, Quoningar, the Sashenstar's daughter) but a few others didn't seem to happen, or if they did, I missed them. Coran did not comment on the wyverns at all, and as with the unmodded game, kept making comments about having wyverns to kill.
I didn't notice Edie near the Merchant League either, but then I could have just overlooked her (I did not kill Aldeth so I got his quest with the doppelgangers).
I didn't notice Shilo Chen either.
The other thing I'm curious about is the final Tamoko encounter in the Undercity. In my previous (unmodded) game I also played a LN fighter - only difference was that time it was a female, rather than a male as in this game - and was able to talk her out of attacking. This time I couldn't despite telling her she wasn't my enemy and not to throw her life away. Anyone know if this is down to UB, or something silly like only women can talk her out of fighting? (Just curious, really).

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Re: Just finished my first BG game with UB installed
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2008, 02:28:56 PM »
The dialog with Tamoko has only one way of getting her to leave in peace, by saying at the end "If you would throw your life away, then you are already dead. If that is your choice, then you do not need me". There's two instances of the very same sentence, but the triggers are different (ReactionGT(LastTalkedToBy,NEUTRAL_UPPER VS. FRIENLY_LOWER & HOSTILE_UPPER)). The Neutral one makes her leave, the others make her attack you regardless. According to the IEDSP, those are identifiers for reactions, but I don't know how they're set nor the particular conditions for this encounter.  I'd hazard Charisma has something to do with it, but someone who knows better can shed more light on the matter.

In UB for regular BG1, Shilo Chen is in the Elfsong tavern, by your left when you enter the ground floor.

Edie is near the bar in the first floor of the Merchant Consortium.

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Re: Just finished my first BG game with UB installed
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2008, 03:18:12 AM »
Yes, I've come to the conclusion it was down to charisma as well.
And I must have just missed the other characters on that playthrough.
Any ideas why Coran's fix didn't seem to work? (Kivan's did, incidentally).

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Re: Just finished my first BG game with UB installed
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2008, 05:53:42 PM »
Will check up on Coran.
I am aware that Shilo Chen was screwed up in the Tutu/BGT version, but I think you are using the BG1 version, and it should be working in that version.

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Re: Just finished my first BG game with UB installed
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2008, 12:41:23 PM »
I was indeed. I subsequently had a spyware problem and had to reformat my PC (ugh) so I've reinstalled the whole lot.
The Tamoko thing seems to be nothing to do with UB and everything to do with charisma, or lack thereof, if other folks are to be believed.

I'm just in another game of BG now, with different NPCs this time. One thing was I did try taking Kagain, but when he arrived at the downed caravan, he left party (of his own volition), then asked to join again...then left, then followed me, asked to join...rinse and repeat. I reloaded from before where I picked him up and won't include him in this playthrough. Don't know what's going on there.

This time I have an ease of use mod but nothing else.

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name
~SETUP-BG1-EASE-V2.1.TP2~ #0 #3 // Maximum of hit points per level
~SETUP-BG1-EASE-V2.1.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved spell learning for bards and mages
~SETUP-BG1-EASE-V2.1.TP2~ #0 #5 // Happy mode (no annoyed or angry NPC)
~SETUP-BG1-EASE-V2.1.TP2~ #0 #10 // Xp level cap remover
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Mysterious Vial
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Additional Elminster Encounter
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // Angelo Notices Shar-teel
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Finishable Kagain Caravan Quest
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // Coran and the Wyverns
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Kivan and Tazok
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Branwen and Tranzig
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Appropriate Albert and Rufie Reward
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Place Entar Silvershield in His Home
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Scar and the Sashenstar's Daughter
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Quoningar, the Cleric
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Shilo Chen and the Ogre-Magi
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #14 // Edie, the Merchant League Applicant
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // Flaming Fist Mercenary Reinforcements
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Creature Restorations
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Creature Name Restorations
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Minor Dialogue Restorations
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Audio Restorations
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Store, Tavern and Inn Fixes and Restorations
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Permanent Corpses
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #25 // Elven Charm and Sleep Racial Resistance
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #26 // The Original Saga Music Playlist Corrections
~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #27 // Sarevok's Diary Corrections

 

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