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Dog fights
« on: August 08, 2004, 02:13:29 AM »
Sponsoring a dog fight doesn't seem to lower virtue, meow. ;_;
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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2004, 03:47:38 AM »
Oooh, goodie.  Another can of worms.  :D
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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2004, 07:23:10 AM »
GC, you sponsored a dog fight?!  I am so disappointed  :'(
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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2004, 07:58:22 AM »
Cats vs. dogs or dogeatdog fights?
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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2004, 01:41:25 PM »
I'm with Gospel on this one. Sponsoring a dog fight should lower virtue. If you're a ranger or druid it should make you "fall". Valygar, Minsc, Jaheira, Cernd, and any other ranger or druid in the party, should get extremely angry, at least, though that's probably not in the scope of this mod.
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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2004, 05:01:45 PM »
I agree that it would be very inappropriate for rangers and druids to sponsor such a fight but I do not think it should make virtue fall for the other classes. Some may consider it evil from a modern perspective but within the world of the game, I do not think it is.

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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2004, 05:34:52 PM »
GC, you sponsored a dog fight?!  I am so disappointed  :'(

Ehhhh, it was a test ;_; I reloaded after, meow ;_; And I kill Surly every game anyways :)
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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2004, 05:46:00 PM »
I agree that it would be very inappropriate for rangers and druids to sponsor such a fight but I do not think it should make virtue fall for the other classes. Some may consider it evil from a modern perspective but within the world of the game, I do not think it is.

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It is evil I thinky, yes, I do believe it is. :)

Within the world of the game? :) Why a difference? :D It's entirely disgusting. :)




And Jaheira and Minsc, at the least, already complain about it, missus neriana. Which is good, meow. :) Errr, but that made it even stranger when I looked for a virtue penalty and... didn't see one. ;_;


Edit: And if there are seriously some people who don't think it should lower virtue, I will be depressed with people in general. :(
« Last Edit: August 08, 2004, 05:49:38 PM by WolfCatBot »
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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2004, 01:04:56 AM »
It is evil I thinky, yes, I do believe it is. :)

Within the world of the game? :) Why a difference? :D It's entirely disgusting. :)

Yes, that is my point. We might find it disgusting but those living within the world of the game may view it differently. The game is not set in a modern world and the definitions of what is good and evil, human and inhuman will differ from ours. Have you noticed how common it is to kill other people in the game?

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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2004, 02:03:39 AM »
How the people within the game view it is a matter for Reputation, not Virtue.
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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2004, 02:08:45 AM »
I do not recall claiming that it only applied to NPCs. This is also about how a PC views his or her own actions.

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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2004, 02:12:51 AM »
...okay.  So?  What does that have to do with Virtue?  Irenicus doesn't have a Virtue of 20, despite not seeing anything wrong with his actions.
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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2004, 02:40:54 AM »
It has a lot more to do with Virtue than Irenicus has. This mod represents a standard of good and evil under which the actions of the PCs are judged. I am saying that this standard should not be too modern, since it is a game where we are trying to think and act like characters living in a world which roughly looks like 13th century Europe.

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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2004, 09:56:52 AM »
Except in all the screamingly obvious ways in which it looks nothing like 13th century Europe.

Faerun is like 13th century Europe in: technology, government.  It's unlike 13th century Europe in: gender equality, acceptance of sexuality in general, religions, magic.  I see little ambiguity about which of these columns "ethics" goes in.
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Re: Dog fights
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2004, 09:17:45 AM »
Dog fighting will lower Virtue in the next release. Regardless of social circumstance, it's fairly clear that causing innocent things to suffer is evil.

 

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