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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2007, 11:24:26 PM »
To get back to the discussion, how would the people in the non-convient-time-zones-for-the-normal-Iron-Modder feel about an alternate Iron Modder?

If nothing else, with my messed up sleep schedule, I could always annouce the topic.
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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2007, 12:23:51 AM »
Go start a different discussion if you want to organize your own contest, please.
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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2007, 08:56:22 AM »
and I want to be skooled by the likes of the bigg and SimDing0 and Cuv and MTS and Celestine/SirBB and COMSolufain and [insert list of every serious modder out there]
excuse me but i think youll find i came last so up yours

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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2007, 06:33:51 PM »
...berelinde, etc
Hey! Hang on! Leave me out of this!

I certainly don't mind being associated with SHS, nor with G3, nor CoM, or anywhere else, but this is a question of opinion not affiliation. FWIW, the only mod I've released as sole author is actually at G3.

I'm all for allowing modders whatever level of ownership they want of their own personal mods (mine will probably get a lot less proprietary in the future, though, because I'm frankly getting quite sick of it), but when it comes to a question of who does or doesn't have the right to hold a timed competition, I don't think anybody can claim ownership. The more the merrier, and all that.

I wouldn't deny PPG the claim of being the first, though, and I do think that the actual name, but not the concept, is PPG.

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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2007, 06:39:26 PM »
excuse me but i think youll find i came last so up yours

You're just out of practice - I'll take my ass whuppin' like a man when you get your game on for real. You've forgotten more about modding than I have ever read :)

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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2007, 06:57:07 PM »
I certainly don't mind being associated with SHS, nor with G3, nor CoM, or anywhere else, but this is a question of opinion not affiliation. FWIW, the only mod I've released as sole author is actually at G3.
You're a GM at SHS though. And I'm talking about the fact that - for some reason - all people who are vocal about enforcing mod copyright (= "it's my/his work and my/his alone") and mod patents (= "it's my/his idea and my/his alone") are highly ranked at SHS.
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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2007, 08:30:29 PM »
And why not? If someone makes a mod, its theirs. Their ideas, their work. .
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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2007, 11:18:16 PM »
I certainly don't mind being associated with SHS, nor with G3, nor CoM, or anywhere else, but this is a question of opinion not affiliation. FWIW, the only mod I've released as sole author is actually at G3.
You're a GM at SHS though. And I'm talking about the fact that - for some reason - all people who are vocal about enforcing mod copyright (= "it's my/his work and my/his alone") and mod patents (= "it's my/his idea and my/his alone") are highly ranked at SHS.

Just to stoke the flames a bit, aren't most of your mods hosted at SHS?
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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2007, 07:03:46 AM »
And why not? If someone makes a mod, its theirs. Their ideas, their work. .
Copyright escalates in DRM and RIAA suing file sharers. Patents escalate in lack of innovations and Microsoft suing FUDding Linux.
Both "base" ideas, while acceptable in theory, evolve into great dangers for both the have nots and the haves. Hence, both ideas must either be suppressed, or degrade in something as unenforceable as ethics.

Just to stoke the flames a bit, aren't most of your mods hosted at SHS?
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Though I believe I'm free of this SHS sin (the patents/copyright danger), I'm surely going to die of PPG's (elitism) and G3's ("assimilate to our standard, or be laughed at").
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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2007, 07:21:04 AM »
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G3's ("assimilate to our standard, or be laughed at").

I thought it was "assimilate to our standard, and be laughed at together with us"?

(sorry, Jason, I couldn't resist. Besides, I learnt from informed sources Cam is on vacation, so we can flame his subjunctive fixes in the meantime).

Seriously, folks, I don't understand what the fuss is about. The next IM will take place. I am going to win, whenever it will be, because I am so, so great, so accomplished, so fully realized in my potential that I simply do not know where to begin. And I've got a hat, too. But, sure, we can talk about this a little more, since I always enjoy talking about myself. (And, I'm an elitist. Naturally).

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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2007, 08:26:22 AM »
I am in the (AFAIK) unique position in the comunity of being the only active author for a major work at three different comunities (Refinements at SHS, WeiDU here, WSM at G3), so I can be flamed as a <acronym> member everywhere I go, if the need arises  :)
Heh. I'll call your Refinements and raise you TDD. (Pushing my luck? :))

I believe the upshot of all this is that the next Iron Modder theme is probably going to be

Let's Chat Shit About Copyright Law

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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2007, 08:45:29 AM »
Heh. I'll call your Refinements and raise you TDD. (Pushing my luck? :))
<insert sad ESL icon>

I believe the upshot of all this is that the next Iron Modder theme is probably going to be

Let's Chat Shit About Copyright Law
In that event, I'm going to replace the AR0602 graphics with an enlarged Napster logo and have Irenicus play the entire "Nothing else Matters" in stead of the usual cutscene. Then we'll wait for the DCMA takedown notice and say bye-bye to all BG modding FOREVAR.
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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2007, 03:10:49 PM »
Oh yeah!

Well I have mods at TeamBG, SHS, and a beta at CoM....

Wait, you said major mods, n/m.

As for the rest:

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Re: IM11 possible dates
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2008, 06:21:02 PM »
March and April don't look like they're going to work out as well as I had hoped, so we'll try again, in a new thread...
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