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Offline ayqazi

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Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« on: November 19, 2006, 04:48:27 PM »
Hello

This image should illustrate the problem:

(http://img15.imgspot.com/u/06/322/18/ankhegproblem1163979748.jpeg)

 :o :-\ :o ???

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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2006, 06:11:44 PM »
Hello -

There's some mod that's responsible for this.  Post your weidu.log and I'll be able to tell you which one.
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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2006, 10:20:25 AM »
same problem I had
http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php/topic,21988.0.html

current game I am now packing almost 100 shells, got to love those bag's of holding,
makes for some fast levels at 975 each.

Weidu log is also posted in that thread, I could try looking through my area file when I get home, see if I
can find anything in there.
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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2006, 04:08:09 PM »
// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1080 // Add Bags of Holding
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2090 // Change Experience Point Cap -> Remove Experience Cap
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2151 // Wear Multiple Protection Items -> No Restrictions
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2180 // Un-Nerfed THAC0 Table, Saving Throws, Grand-Mastery, and  Arcane, Divine Spell Progression (Blucher)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2200 // Multi-Class Grand Mastery (Weimer)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2210 // True Grand Mastery (Baldurdash)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3000 // Higher HP on Level Up -> Maximum
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3012 // Maximum HP for NPCs (the bigg) -> For Party-Joinable NPCs Only
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3031 // Easy Spell Learning -> 100% Learn Spells and No Maximum Cap
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3040 // Make Bags of Holding Bottomless
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3060 // Remove "You Must Gather Your Party..." Sound (Weimer)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Unlimited Potion Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3190 // Rest Anywhere (Japheth)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3120 // Happy Patch (Party NPCs do not fight or complain about reputation)
~EASYTUTUDEGREENIFIER.TP2~ #0 #0 // EasyTutu Degreenifier
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1100 // Reveal City Maps When Entering Area
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1110 // Add Map Notes


On second thoughts, I suppose it's not much of a problem - I just CTRL+Y most of them (sometimes I find about 5 in the exact same spot!)  leaving about 2 to kill.  I suppose it's ample compensation for some of the so-called glitches the Tutu people unfortunately decided needed fixing, that gave the game more character and generally made it more fun (like selling 10 ankheg shells and also getting your ankheg armour).

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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2006, 10:34:56 AM »
Hi,

I to have had this problem, it seems to happen after completing the farmers quest, once you leave the area & return later in the game then this seems to occur all the time.
I am using Easy Tutu 22 May version.

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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2006, 05:58:27 PM »
Hello -

I to have had this problem, it seems to happen after completing the farmers quest, once you leave the area & return later in the game then this seems to occur all the time.
I am using Easy Tutu 22 May version.

The last time this came up I suspected a mod's influence, because you were using a mod which specifically stated it tampered with spawn rates.

If either of you care to pass along some files from your EasyTutu override folder, I'll take a look.

FW1400.ARE
_AR1400.BCS

... will do for starters.  If interested, PM me and I'll give you an email address to send them to.
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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2006, 12:11:56 PM »
Hi Macready

I think you must have me mixed up with someone else, as far as i know i don't have any mods installed which tamper with spawn rates.
Here is my weidu log for you to take a look at.

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name
~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #3 // BG2 Ammo Stacks
~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #4 // Totemic Druid Spirit Summons are Balanced
~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #5 // BG1 Summoning Spells
~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #8 // Hooded unarmoured avatars and hooded bards
~EASYTUTUDEGREENIFIER.TP2~ #0 #0 // EasyTutu Degreenifier
~SETUP-FINCHNPCV2.TP2~ #0 #0 // Finch NPC for Tutu v2.0
~SETUP-INDINPC.TP2~ #0 #0 // Indira NPC for BG1Tutu
~MUR'NETH.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Mur'Neth NPC mod for Baldur's Gate Tutu or Baldur's Gate Trilogy-WeiDU
~SETUP-SIRINESCALL.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Lure of the Sirine's Call
~BW_HERBS/SETUP-BW_HERBS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Herbs and Potions Add-in (BG1 / BG1Tutu / BGT) v1.0.1 by Baronius
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #0 // The BG1 NPC Project for BG1 Tutu: Core Install
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #1 // The BG1 NPC Project for BG1 Tutu: Phase I (Banters)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #2 // The BG1 NPC Project for BG1 Tutu: Phase II (Quests and Interjections)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #6 // Give Edwin his BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #7 // Give Imoen her BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #8 // Give Jaheira her BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #9 // Give Minsc his BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #10 // Give Viconia her BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #14 // Non-joinable character portraits
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #15 // Coran's Romance Core (Rated: R)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #16 // Placeholder 1: New Quests
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #17 // Dynaheir's Romance Core (Rated PG13)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #18 // Shar-Teel Relationship Core (Rated R)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #19 // Branwen's Romance Core (Rated PG13)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #21 // Xan's Romance Core (Rated PG13)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #22 // Ajantis Romance Core (Rated PG13)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #23 // Female Romance Challenges
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #26 // Coran's Romance Speed -> Coran's Romance Speed (30 minutes)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #30 // Dynaheir's Romance Speed -> Dynaheir's Romance Speed: 30 minutes
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #34 // Xan's Romance Speed -> Xan's Romance Speed: 30 minutes
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #38 // Shar-Teel's Romance Speed -> Shar-Teel's Relationship Speed: 30 minutes
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #42 // Branwen's Romance Speed -> Branwen's Romance Speed: 30 minutes
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #46 // Ajantis' Romance Speed -> Ajantis' Romance Speed: 30 minutes
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #100 // Install Player-Initiated Dialogues
~BG1NPCMUSIC/BG1NPCMUSIC.TP2~ #0 #0 // The BG1 NPC Project Music Pack
~SETUP-SLIMEQUEST_JASTEY.TP2~ #0 #0 // Installation of jastey's mini-quest mod "fun with slime"
~SETUP-GMINION.TP2~ #0 #0 // gMinion v1.8
~SETUP-TUTUSOUNDS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Casting Sounds -> Restored BG1 Casting Sounds And Special Effects
~SETUP-TUTUSOUNDS.TP2~ #0 #2 // Restored BG1 Combat Sounds
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Adjust Evil joinable NPC reaction rolls
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Breakable Iron Nonmagical Shields, Helms, and Armor
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #43 // Weapon Animation Tweaks
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #46 // Icewind Dale Casting Graphics (Andyr)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #52 // Remove "You Must Gather Your Party..." Sound (Weimer)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #55 // Commoners Use Drab Colors
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #58 // Icon Improvements
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #83 // Add Bags of Holding to BG1
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #86 // Exotic Item Pack
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #89 // Reveal City Maps When Entering Area
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #92 // Add Map Notes
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #126 // Force All Dialogue to Pause Game
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #129 // Use Valen/Solaufein Style Interjections
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #132 // Remove Baldur's Gate Experience Cap
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #141 // Universal Clubs
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #142 // English Only: Description Updates for Universal  Clubs Component
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #162 // Sellable Staffs, Clubs, and Slings (Icelus)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #165 // Higher HP on Level Up -> Maximum
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #173 // Wear Magic Rings and Armor (Weimer)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #174 // PnP-Style Protection Items
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #179 // True Grand Mastery (Baldurdash)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #185 // Shapeshifter Rebalancing
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #219 // 100% Learn Spells
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #225 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #228 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #231 // Unlimited Potion Stacking
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #234 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #237 // Make Bags of Holding Bottomless
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #273 // Give Edwin his BG2 Stats
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #276 // Give Jaheira her BG2 Stats
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #279 // Give Minsc his BG2 Stats
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #282 // Give Viconia her BG2 Stats

I will PM you for email address to send the files you have requested.

Alan


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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2006, 04:35:59 PM »
Hello -

I think you must have me mixed up with someone else, as far as i know i don't have any mods installed which tamper with spawn rates.

Oops.  Yes I do have you confused with someone else.

OK, dammit!  This is starting to look like my fault.  I'll PM you my email address now.
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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2006, 08:56:53 PM »
Hello -

OK, I am proceeding under the assumption that my spawn scripts are to blame here.  Having thought about it, it's possible that the range checks performed by any ankheg spawn managers (intended to prevent spawns when previous spawns still live) are not working due to that hide in the ground thing that ankhegs do.

So, anyway, if you want to experiment with a potential solution:

* Visit FW1400.
* Kill or CTRL-Y any ankhegs on the map.
* Save your game.
* Exit out of the game completely.
* Place this updated script file in your EasyTutu override folder.
* Try to recreate the problem with the new script in place.

The new intended behavior is for ankhegs to spawn once and only once at any given spawn point.  Let me know how it goes.  Happy Thanksgiving.
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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2006, 05:45:17 AM »
Hi Macready,

Hope the 2 files i sent you were of some use.

I did as you asked in your previous post & all seems to be working okay, I was only getting 2 Ankhegs at a time after adding your script file.

Just a thought, will this have any effect on other areas which have Ankhegs in, ie random encounters, when you exit Nashkel mines & the Ice Isle in TotSC.

Thanks again for coming to our rescue.
Alan
 

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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2006, 07:31:38 AM »
Just want to point out that BG1NPC adds following bit of code to the area script:


IF
Global("AnkhegCount","FW1400",0)
GlobalGT("HelpGerde","GLOBAL",1)
THEN
 RESPONSE #100
SetGlobal("AnkhegCount","FW1400",1)
SetGlobal("SPRITE_IS_DEADANKHEG","GLOBAL",0)
END
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Which may or may not interfere with your spawn scripts (I don't have Tutu so I can't be sure).

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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2006, 08:58:25 AM »
Hello -

Hope the 2 files i sent you were of some use.

Was that you?  You didn't identify yourself using your forum nick, so it was hard to be sure.  Thanks for taking the time.

They were of use insofar as there was nothing suspicious in either of them, which further cast the shadow of blame on the ankheg spawn scripts.

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I did as you asked in your previous post & all seems to be working okay, I was only getting 2 Ankhegs at a time after adding your script file.

OK.  Although once a spawn point spawns ankhegs after the new script is in play, that should be the last time you see ankhegs at that particular spawn point.  The actual number of ankhegs is tied to the game difficulty setting you use (if you are getting two, you must be playing at Core Rules IIRC).

If I did in fact guess the cause of the original bug correctly, what was happening was the following:

* You visit the map
* Ankhegs spawn
* You leave without killing them
* You return later after a number of in-game days have passed
* The spawn managers, failing to detect the last round of ankhegs due to their hide-in-ground behavior, spawn another set
  (the ankheg hide-in-ground behavior is why this problem was confined to ankhegs only)
* Cycle repeats until you actually wander by the spawn point and encounter the ankheg swarm

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Just a thought, will this have any effect on other areas which have Ankhegs in, ie random encounters, when you exit Nashkel mines & the Ice Isle in TotSC.

Some ankhegs in the game are not spawned -- they are literally defined as actors in the ARE.  Those ankhegs are totally unaffected.

Any ankhegs spawned by the EasyTutu spawn system will only spawn once per spawn point using this updated script.  If it seems to correct the problem for everyone, I'll assume I guessed the problem correctly and will roll the updated script into the next EasyTutu release.

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Thanks again for coming to our rescue.

No problem.  Thanks for the help.  And I haven't forgotten about your other, past bug reports.  Most of them are tied to the dialogs I have yet to edit to finish off the journal work, and I do hope to get back to it soon.
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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2006, 09:00:50 AM »
Hello -

Just want to point out that BG1NPC adds following bit of code to the area script:

As much as I love to blame others for problems, I don't think I can point fingers at BG1NPC here.  I ran across that bit of script code in the sample area script sent to me by Alboy, and I can't see it having anything to do with the ankheg madness.
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Re: Ankheg spawn WOAH!
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2006, 09:31:42 AM »
Hi Macready,

You are correct in the asumption that i was using core rules.
I have finished my current Easytutu game & will be playing again as soon as the next update of Easytutu is released.
No matter which  RPG i play i always come back to the Baldur's Gate saga, it can't be beaten in my oppinion.

Thanks again for your help
Alan
« Last Edit: November 24, 2006, 09:33:35 AM by Alboy »

 

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