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Offline Stabwound

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Some characters moving much slower than others
« on: July 29, 2006, 01:34:21 PM »
I'm playing TuTu, and I recently decided to reform my party. I got 3 new NPCs in my party, but I quickly noticed something was wrong. The 3 new characters seem to walk about 3/4 as fast as my 3 original characters. I have no idea what's wrong or how to fix it.

I opened the savegame with ShadowKeeper and all of the characters have a base speed of 0 (default).

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// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name
~EASYTUTUDEGREENIFIER.TP2~ #0 #0 // EasyTutu Degreenifier
~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #3 // BG2 Ammo Stacks
~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #4 // Totemic Druid Spirit Summons are Balanced
~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #5 // BG1 Summoning Spells
~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #8 // Hooded unarmoured avatars and hooded bards
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Adjust Evil joinable NPC reaction rolls
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #37 // Remove Helmet Animations
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #40 // Avatar Morphing Script
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #43 // Weapon Animation Tweaks
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #52 // Remove "You Must Gather Your Party..." Sound (Weimer)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #55 // Commoners Use Drab Colors
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #58 // Icon Improvements
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #83 // Add Bags of Holding to BG1
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #86 // Exotic Item Pack
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #92 // Add Map Notes
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #95 // Stores Sell Higher Stacks of Items
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #129 // Use Valen/Solaufein Style Interjections
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #132 // Remove Baldur's Gate Experience Cap
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #141 // Universal Clubs
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #142 // English Only: Description Updates for Universal  Clubs Component
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #145 // Weapon Styles for All
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #148 // Druids Use Cleric Level and Spell Progression
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #151 // Allow Thieving and Stealth in Heavy Armor
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #152 // English Only: Alter Item Descriptions for 'Stealth and  Thieving Abilities in Heavy Armor' Component
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #155 // Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Heavy Armor
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #156 // English Only: Alter Item Descriptions for 'Allow Arcane  Spellcasting in Armor' Component
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #159 // Expanded Dual-Class Options
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #162 // Sellable Staffs, Clubs, and Slings (Icelus)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #165 // Higher HP on Level Up -> Maximum
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #170 // Maximum HP for NPCs (the bigg) -> For Party-Joinable NPCs Only
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #173 // Wear Magic Rings and Armor (Weimer)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #174 // PnP-Style Protection Items
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #176 // Multi-Class Grand Mastery (Weimer)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #179 // True Grand Mastery (Baldurdash)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #182 // Un-Nerfed THAC0 Table, Saving Throws, Grand-Mastery, and  Arcane, Divine Spell Progression (Blucher)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #185 // Shapeshifter Rebalancing
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #188 // Low Reputation Store Discount (Sabre)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #191 // PnP Spell Progression Tables
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #194 // Rebalanced Weapon Proficiencies
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #219 // 100% Learn Spells
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #222 // Identify All Items
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #225 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #228 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #231 // Unlimited Potion Stacking
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #234 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #237 // Make Bags of Holding Bottomless
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #240 // Happy Patch (Party NPCs do not fight or complain about reputation)
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #270 // ToB-Style NPCs
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #273 // Give Edwin his BG2 Stats
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #276 // Give Jaheira her BG2 Stats
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #279 // Give Minsc his BG2 Stats
~SETUP-TUTU_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #282 // Give Viconia her BG2 Stats
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #0 // The BG1 NPC Project for BG1 Tutu: Core Install
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #1 // The BG1 NPC Project for BG1 Tutu: Phase I (Banters)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #2 // The BG1 NPC Project for BG1 Tutu: Phase II (Quests and Interjections)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #6 // Give Edwin his BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #7 // Give Imoen her BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #8 // Give Jaheira her BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #9 // Give Minsc his BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #10 // Give Viconia her BG2 portrait.
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #14 // Non-joinable character portraits
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #15 // Coran's Romance Core (Rated: R)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #16 // Placeholder 1: New Quests
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #17 // Dynaheir's Romance Core (Rated PG13)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #18 // Shar-Teel Relationship Core (Rated R)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #19 // Branwen's Romance Core (Rated PG13)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #21 // Xan's Romance Core (Rated PG13)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #22 // Ajantis Romance Core (Rated PG13)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #23 // Female Romance Challenges
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #24 // Coran's Romance Speed -> Coran's Romance Speed (1 hour)
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #28 // Dynaheir's Romance Speed -> Dynaheir's Romance Speed: 1 hour
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #32 // Xan's Romance Speed -> Xan's Romance Speed: 1 hour
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #36 // Shar-Teel's Romance Speed -> Shar-Teel's Relationship Speed: 1 hour
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #40 // Branwen's Romance Speed -> Branwen's Romance Speed: 1 hour
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #44 // Ajantis' Romance Speed -> Ajantis' Romance Speed: 1 hour
~BG1NPC.TP2~ #0 #100 // Install Player-Initiated Dialogues
~MUR'NETH.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Mur'Neth NPC mod for Baldur's Gate Tutu or Baldur's Gate Trilogy-WeiDU
~MUR'NETH.TP2~ #0 #1 // Remove Rare selection sounds
~SETUP-FINCHNPCV2.TP2~ #0 #0 // Finch NPC for Tutu v2.0
~SETUP-SIRINESCALL.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Lure of the Sirine's Call
// Recently Uninstalled: ~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #2 // Restored BG1 Loadscreens
// Recently Uninstalled: ~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #7 // Walking Speeds (uninstalled this to see if it would help. It didn't.
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Offline Stabwound

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Re: Some characters moving much slower than others
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2006, 01:41:27 PM »
Hmmm. I tried kicking everyone out of the party and inviting them back, and now they all walk slower. Everyone except the main character that is: he seems to move about 1/4 faster than everyone else.
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Re: Some characters moving much slower than others
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2006, 01:58:44 PM »
Hello -

Quote from: Stabwound on July 29, 2006, 01:34:21 PM
// Recently Uninstalled: ~SETUP-TUTUFIX.TP2~ #0 #7 // Walking Speeds (uninstalled this to see if it would help. It didn't.

This is still at the heart of your problem.  It's a bit of a problematic component.  I believe that ultimately the best way to use it would be to install it dead last, since I imagine that would avoid the some-guys-faster-than-others syndrome.  I'm afraid I am unable to offer any advice on how to remove its effects from your current game, though.
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Re: Some characters moving much slower than others
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2006, 02:14:13 PM »
Yes, I had that problem with walking speeds, but it only affected the pc: everyone walked at a normal speed but him, and he crawled.

When I did a fresh install for something else, I did not install the walking speeds component. I might have lost the feel of trudging along, but at least the rest of the party is not forever waiting for <CHARNAME> to catch up.
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Re: Some characters moving much slower than others
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2006, 03:10:19 PM »
Well, the master "how to fix this" post is at B3, whicjh is down, so to cut to the chase (if you don't understand, just ask in this thread).

To use Walking Speeds best, install it at the end of your install. (It still has some wierd consequences on Polymorph Self spells and Slow, but Haste, Grease, etc. will work fine. I always play with it when I am not testing something.)

Once you have uninstalled it, the Save still has all of the characters you have met saved in the old state (and any areas you have visited asr saved with the changes as well). You can't do much about areas you have visited that doesn't involve some pretty heavy (and silly) surgery, but you can fix your joined NPC's easily.

Open ShadowKeeper, load the savegame you wnat to fix, and look under the tab "affects". There you will see a line that says something like

0x00B0  -3

Clear that line from each one of the characters (check them all).

Voila - default BG2 walking speeds are restored.

CamDawg and SimDing0 are looking into repairing this behavior and moving the component to the BG2 Tweak Pack' s first non-beta version.
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