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So. . . why do I have NO Virtue?
« on: June 17, 2006, 12:51:07 PM »
A very curious weirdness in my current game (the only one I have running on my newish computer, so I don't have anything to compare it with yet), that's lasted ever since Jon's Dungeon: When I started the game, everything was fine. Every time I Load a Saved game, however, my Virtue fails to display. It looks like this:
Virtue: ()
Reputation: Heroic (16)
And then, after I do something that affects my Virtue, it shows up properly again. Until I Reload. The party members react to Virtue just fine, even when it isn't displayed, and my alignment changed from TN to NG as normal, so my game doesn't seem to be affected, but this is just too tweaky not to tell you about.

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Re: So. . . why do I have NO Virtue?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2006, 12:58:59 PM »
I've heard reports of this before, but I've never been able to reproduce it. I theorize that it may be caused by installing other mods after Virtue--perhaps you could post your weidu.log?

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Re: So. . . why do I have NO Virtue?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2006, 03:05:40 AM »
Short version, in order of installation:
Unfinished Business, G3 Anniversary, Ascension, Turnabout, aPack (Rogue Rebalancing), Ashes of Embers, Oversight, Virtue, NPC Kitpack, Ding0Tweak, Ease of Use, G3Tweaks, G3 NPC Tweak, PnP Celestials, Expanded Thief Stronghold, Quest Pack, NPC Flirtpacks, Tactics, Hubelpot, Kelsey, Improved Horns of Valhalla, Item Upgrade, Ruad, Every Mod and Dog, Wild Mage Additions, BG2SoA Items, A Mod for the Orderly, Divine Remix (bug in Druid Remix), Banter Packs.

Long version:
// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Suna Seni/Valygar Relationship
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // "Cat and Mouse" (Bodhi hunts you in Spellhold) by Ghreyfain
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations"
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Restored Hell Minions, by SimDing0
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Gorf the Squisher Fix, by Gebhard Blucher
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Item Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Yoshimo's Original Portrait
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // NPC Portrait Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Corrected BAMs and Scripts
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Corrected Character Names and Biographies
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Restored Minor Dialogs
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Extended ToB Item Descriptions
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Throne of Bhaal Minor Restorations
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Justifier Kit
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Feralan Kit
~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Sarevok's Remorse
~G3ANNIVERSARY/SETUP-G3ANNIVERSARY.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Gibberlings Three Anniversary Mod
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension v1.41 (requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #1 // Tougher Abazigal (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #2 // Original Tougher Demogorgon (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #3 // Tougher Gromnir (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tougher Illasera (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #5 // Tougher Yaga-Shura (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-TURNABOUT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension: Turnabout
~SETUP-TURNABOUT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Balthazar Epilogue Portrait, by Cliffette
~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Dual Wielding fix and Rogue Shop
~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Thief kit & HLA revisions
~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Bard kit & HLA revisions
~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Chosen of Cyric Encounter
~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Elven Charm/Sleep resistance fix
~SETUP-APACK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Kit descriptions Uninstaller
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Sensible weapon restrictions for MODS
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #2 // Unique weapons (bolas and katars)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Throwing Spears
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Wizard Slayer kit MR bonus (8% + 4%/level)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #11 // Pit Fighter Kit
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #12 // New Armour (Scale, Banded, and Field Plate)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #14 // Sensible weapon restrictions for SoA (non-mod weapons)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #15 // Sensible weapon restrictions for ToB (non-mod weapons)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #16 // SoA Anomen's new proficiencies (Long Sword, Spear, Xbow)]                   [Requires Sensible Weapons for SoA
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #17 // ToB Anomen's new proficiencies (Long Sword, Spear, Xbow)]                   [Requires Sensible Weapons for ToB
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #18 // SoA Viconia's new proficiencies (Crossbow, Flail, Single-weapon Style, Scimitar, and Short Sword)]                   [Requires Sensible Weapons for SoA
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #19 // ToB Viconia's new proficiencies (Crossbow, Flail, Single-weapon Style, Scimitar, and Short Sword)]                   [Requires Sensible Weapons for ToB
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Tougher Sendai (TOB Required)
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Alignment Correction
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Class Tweaks/Fixes
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Continuity
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #6 // Monk High Level Abilities
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #7 // Holy Liberator
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #5 // Cleric Kits
~SETUP-VIRTUE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Virtue
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #0 // NPC Kit Pack
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Anomen Gains Helm Kit on Passing Knighthood Test
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Anomen Gains Berserker Kit on Failing Knighthood Test
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #3 // Prevent CN Anomen Gaining a Holy Symbol
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Add Red Wizard to Edwin's Kit Description
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #5 // Give Imoen Adventurer Kit
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #15 // Change Korgan's Kit to Battlerager
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #16 // Give Mazzy a Proper Truesword of Arvoreen Kit
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #17 // Change Minsc's Title to Rashemaar Ranger
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #18 // Give Nalia Adventurer Kit
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #28 // Give Sarevok a Proper Deathbringer Kit
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #29 // Improved Specialist Mage Descriptions
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #0 // Enhanced Goodberries
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Corrected Summoned Demon Behaviour
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Corrected Demon Animations
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Reintroduce Dimension Door
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tweaked Weapon Enchantments
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Additional Racial Enemies
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Summonning Cap Removal
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #7 // PnP Celestial Fury
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #13 // Kensai Ryu's Restored Drow Innate Abilities
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #17 // Sensible Lore Table
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #18 // Improved Backstabbing
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #19 // NPCs/Summons Set Off Traps
~SETUP-D0TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Visual Ioun Stones
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #3 // True Grand Mastery (extra half-attack, etc.) (Baldurdash)
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #10 // XP Cap Remover
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #11 // Allow Multi-Player Created NPCs to "Wait Here" When Kicked Out
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #12 // Turn Off The Hideous Cloak-of-Mirroring and Spell-Trap Animation
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #13 // Unlimited Bag of Holding (Blucher)
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #15 // Bonus Merchants (Baldurdash)
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #16 // Keep Drizzt's Loot, Disable Malchor Harpell
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #18 // Imoen ToB Dialogue Fix
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #20 // Female Edwina
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #21 // Romance: Bug Fixes (required for later components).
~SETUP-EASE.TP2~ #0 #26 // Low Reputation Store Discount (Sabre)
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #0 // SoA World Map Fixes
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Change Magically Created Weapons to Zero Weight
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #6 // Make +x/+y Weapons Consistent
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #7 // English Only: Description Updates for Make +x/+y  Weapons Consistent Component
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #40 // Change Imoen's Avatar to Mage
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #43 // Change Viconia's Skin Color to Dark Blue
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #46 // Avatar Morphing Script
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #49 // Weapon Animation Tweaks
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #55 // Restore SoA Load Screen Logo (ToB Only)
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #61 // Commoners Use Drab Colors
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #64 // Icon Improvements
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #67 // Change Avatar When Wearing Robes or Leather Armor (Galactygon)
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #70 // Gems and Potions Require Identification
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #91 // Force All Dialogue to Pause
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #97 // Alter HP Triggers for NPC Wounded Dialogues
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #100 // Two-Handed Bastard Swords
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #103 // Two-Handed Katanas
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #106 // Universal Clubs
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #110 // Weapon Styles for All
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #113 // Reveal Wilderness Areas Before Chapter Six
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #116 // Improved Athkatlan City Guard
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #129 // Allow Stealth and Thieving Abilities in Heavy Armor
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #130 // English Only: Alter Item Descriptions for 'Stealth  and Thieving Abilities in Heavy Armor' Component
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #133 // Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Armor
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #134 // English Only: Alter Item Descriptions for 'Allow Arcane  Spellcasting in Armor' Component
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #137 // Expanded Dual-Class Options
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #143 // Gradual Drow Item Disintegration
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #152 // Sellable Staffs, Clubs, and Slings (Icelus)
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #155 // PnP-Style Protection Items
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #158 // Rebalanced Weapon Proficiencies
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #161 // Cast Spells from Scrolls (and Other Items) at Character Level
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #180 // Higher HP on Level Up -> Maximum
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #194 // Bottomless Containers
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #197 // Add Ammo Belts and Potion Cases to SoA
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #203 // Remove fatigue from restoration spells
~G3TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #221 // Improved Fate Spirit Summoning
~NPC_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Anomen
~NPC_TWEAK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Cernd
~SETUP-CELESTIALS.TP2~ #0 #0 // PnP Celestials
~GBTHFKP.TP2~ #0 #0 // Expanded Thief Stronghold
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // General AI Improvements
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // Creature & Area Improvements -> All Creature & Area Improvements
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Creature & Area Improvements -> All Creature Improvements
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // Creature & Area Improvements -> Boss Improvements Only
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #4 // Alternative Harper/Xzar Plot
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #5 // Extended Reynald Sequence
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #6 // Intrigue In The Copper Coronet
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #7 // Rahul Kanakia's Potion Quest
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #8 // Revised Hell Trials
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #9 // Improved Oasis II -> IO2 Dialogue & Combat Enhancement
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #11 // Saving Sanik In Brynnlaw
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #12 // Burglary Of The Bookkeeper
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #13 // New Fate For The Dryads' Acorns
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #14 // The Tragedy Of Besamen
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #15 // Further Slaver Involvement
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #16 // Sending The Solamnic Knights Home
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #17 // Nazariel The Lich
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #18 // Reward Negotiation
~SETUP-D0QUESTPACK.TP2~ #0 #19 // Infernal Thievery
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Aerie Flirt Pack For SOA
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Aerie/Solaufein Romance Conflict For SOA (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Aerie Flirt Pack For TOB
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #3 // Aerie/Solaufein Romance Conflict For TOB (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Jaheira Flirt Pack for SOA
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #5 // Jaheira/Solaufein Romance Conflict For SOA (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #6 // Jaheira Flirt Pack for TOB
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #7 // Jaheira/Solaufein Romance Conflict For TOB (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #8 // Viconia Flirt Pack for SOA
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #9 // Viconia/Solaufein Romance Conflict For SOA (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #10 // Viconia Flirt Pack for TOB
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #11 // Viconia/Solaufein Romance Conflict For TOB (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #12 // Anomen Flirt Pack for SOA
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #13 // Anomen/Solaufein Romance Conflict For SOA (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #14 // Anomen Flirt Pack for TOB
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #15 // Anomen/Solaufein Romance Conflict For TOB (Solaufein V60 or greater recommended)
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #0 // Improved Ilyich (requires ToB)
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Ritual (requires ToB)
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #2 // Improved TorGal and De'Arnisse Keep
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Improved Sahuagin City
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Bodhi
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #5 // Improved Irenicus
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #6 // Improved Guarded Compound in the Temple District
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #7 // Improved Twisted Rune
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #8 // "Kuroisan", the Acid Kensai
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #11 // Gebhard Blucher's Lich in the Docks
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #13 // Kensai Ryu's Tougher Kangaxx and Guardians
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #14 // Kensai Ryu's Gnome Fighter/Illusionist in the Docks
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #15 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Crypt King
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #17 // Gebhard Blucher's Random City Encounters
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #19 // Improved Undead
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #20 // Improved Golems
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #22 // Smarter Dragons in SoA
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #24 // Kensai Ryu's Smarter Vampires
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #25 // Slightly Smarter Mages and Liches
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #26 // Fighter-Class Archer Kit
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #28 // Göran Rimén's Improved Nymphs
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #29 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Copper Coronet
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #32 // Mike Barnes' Improved North Forest
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #35 // Tougher Druid Grove
~SETUP-HUBELPOT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Hubelpot Thistledown, the Vegetable Merchant NPC-mod
~SETUP-HUBELPOT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Optional kit 1 of 2, the Village Druid.
~KELSEY.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kelsey v2.1: for BG2 - SoA
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kelsey: ToB - Version 2
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Ascension-specific dialogue (Requires WeiDU Ascension, v1.4.12 or greater recommended)
~SETUP-VALHORN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Improved Horns of Valhalla v1.2
~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Shadows Of Amn Item Upgrades
~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Throne Of Bhaal Item Upgrades
~SETUP-RUAD.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ruad Ro'fhessa (SoA)
~SETUP-RUAD.TP2~ #0 #1 // Ruad Ro'fhessa (ToB)
~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #0 // A Z-rated Adventure - an IM4 Non-Entry
~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Promise of a Troll
~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #2 // A Bhaalspawn's Best Friend
~EMAD/SETUP-EMAD.TP2~ #0 #3 // Character Medley
~WILDMAGE/SETUP-WILDMAGE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Wild Mage Additions: New Wild Magic Spells
~WILDMAGE/SETUP-WILDMAGE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Wild Mage Additions: Spellshaper Kit
~WILDMAGE/SETUP-WILDMAGE.TP2~ #0 #3 // Misc spell modifications
~SETUP-BG2SOA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Add Items from Baldurs Gate to SoA
~CLIFFKEY/SETUP-CLIFFKEY.TP2~ #0 #0 //  A Mod for the Orderly - Add a Keyring to Faerun! See readme for more details about the choices below. -> Nanoquest version
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #0 // Divine Remix Core Components (Required for Everything)
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #100 // Cleric Remix
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #409 // Install Forest Runner Ranger Kit
~DIVINE_REMIX/SETUP-DIVINE_REMIX.TP2~ #0 #415 // Install Wilderness Runner Ranger Kit

Funny, doesn't list the Banter Packs. Hmm.

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Re: So. . . why do I have NO Virtue?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2006, 08:18:38 PM »
More weirdness, along the lines of the same bug.

On a lark, I tried killing the Svifneblin for Phaere. I've never tried this in an unbugged game, but here's how it worked in mine: -1 to Virtue for attacking each of the 5 (or so) Svirfneblin, plus a hit for killing each of them, and they're all classed as Innocents. In other words, this automatically sets your Virtue to 1, since you can't really leave it to Solaufein to kill them (They never attack him, but he has only 1 attack per round, lousy THAC0, and does 1D3 damage). But that's not the bug.

Imoen got mad and left the party when my Virtue got to . . . Equable (12). But that's not the bug.

This is the bug: I then Reloaded the Auto-Save before leaving the city, and my Virtue was Villianous (1), even though I hadn't done anything unvirtuous the entire game! I then did some testing: Doing something to your Virtue (let's say it's killing all the Svirfneblin) and then Reloading to before you killed the Svirfneblin results in the Reloaded game retaining the Virtue display of the old game. The actual Virtue appears to stay the same: Desmond was back to being Neutral Good, just as he should have been, though I didn't stay in the game long enough to hear Korgan or Minsc express their feelings about the party's path. It's just the display that's bugged, an in an intermittent fashion: Sometimes the Reloaded game displays a Virtue of Villainous (1), [even though it's actually 16], and sometimes it shows up as Righteous (1). That is not a typo. But if you exit all the way out of the game and back to desktop, and then open up BG1 again and load the very same Savegame, the display reads "Virtue: ()" again.

So, apparently, the file's Virtue global is somehow not being erased along with everything else in the "Clearing Game Data" process. As bugs go, that's pretty damn weird.

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Re: So. . . why do I have NO Virtue?
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2006, 05:43:49 AM »
Okay, yes, this sounds very much like an install order issue. The Virtue readme does note that it should be installed last out of everything, and this is largely non-negotiable unfortunately (I update to an HTML readme in future versions which means I can make this slightly clearer). Anything which appends baldurs.bcs afterwards is liable to cut off the blocks which update the record screen (which must be called every time the game is loaded, else, yes, you'll get things like blank Virtue).
It shouldn't do any harm to reorder the installation so Virtue is last, but the amount of stuff you've got, it'd probably take an age. If the problem is only superficial and you're content to ignore it, then fine, but if the problems run deeper then I do build in a variable to cut off Virtue interaction which you can set via the console in the event of a disaster.

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Re: So. . . why do I have NO Virtue?
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2006, 11:51:04 PM »
Arggh! Divine Remix demands that it be installed last too! Modlist.pocketplane.net really should also offer a hierarchy of the order in which to install mods.

If the problem is only superficial and you're content to ignore it, then fine, but if the problems run deeper then I do build in a variable to cut off Virtue interaction which you can set via the console in the event of a disaster.
I'll just live with it for now--the only thing that worries me is Imoen's thinking that my Virtue is 6 points lower than it actually is (I have a screenshot of her and Korgan bitching about my Virtue at the exact same time). I think this occurred because when I first recruited her, my Virtue was 17, and Imoen somehow accepted this as the median value of 10 or so. Since I plan my PC to eventually become Neutral Evil, and keep Imoen regardless, this could become a problem--I'll experiment with booting/re-recruiting Imoen at an equable Virtue, and see what happens then. But yes, if I do need some CLUA help, I'll ask for it here.

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Re: So. . . why do I have NO Virtue?
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2006, 01:10:44 PM »
Update: Uninstalling and reinstalling Virtue corrected the problem with the display, but not how the NPCs (all of them now, not just Imoen) seem to think my Virtue is lower than it actually is.

What precisely is the difference between D0Virtue and D0VMirror?

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Re: So. . . why do I have NO Virtue?
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2006, 11:59:32 AM »
I've looked through the NPC scripts in NI and I did some testing with the console, and it seems that the cause of the phenomenon of NPCs thinking Virtue is lower than it is is that virtue loss is mirrored by a loss in "D0Happiness" for each (good) NPC. So if you lose 2 D0Virtue, (good) NPCs lose 2 D0Happiness. D0Happiness is not incremented by manually setting Virtue higher, so if you've lost 2 Virtue and then set it back with the console the NPCs just won't "know" about it. A solution (or perhaps rather, a quick and dirty fix) is to SetGlobal("D0Happiness",LOCALS,x) - where x is a number from 1-20 (10 seems to be the "standard" initial value) - while the cursor rests over the NPC's portrait.

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Re: So. . . why do I have NO Virtue?
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2006, 01:04:00 AM »
That's. . . really odd. Wonder why he did it like that? Still, since it seems to work just fine in all situations (except when the mods are installed in the wrong order), so I guess I shouldn't knock it.

Thanks for the insight.

 

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