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« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2006, 12:25:35 PM »
Nearly every fantasy novel ever written makes some kind homage to Tolkien.  If that's plagiarism, then every author of fantasy does it.

Every epic fantasy writer or Big Fat Fantasy writer maybe but not every fantasy writer.

I've read the first two HP books and I can't understand why adults would adore them.

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« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2006, 01:12:41 PM »
Why would adults think The DaVinci Code, or anything by Danielle Steele or wossname that wrote that Flowers in the Attic book (or her estate's ghost-writer, since she's dead but they're still churning them out) is a work of literary genius?

I've read the HP series, and I'll see it through to the end. I can understand parents wanting to read it in order to connect with their kids over something, and finding that it's fun and appealing and harmless. Hardly the best. book. ever. but no more inexplicable than many other best-sellers.
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« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2006, 01:26:27 PM »
I've read the first two HP books and I can't understand why adults would adore them.
Funny.  When the coffee is bad I stop after the first sip.  It looks like you took 2 sips of Harry Potter. :P
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« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2006, 01:38:25 PM »
. . .The DaVinci Code . . .

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« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2006, 02:30:10 PM »
I've read the first two HP books and I can't understand why adults would adore them.
Funny.  When the coffee is bad I stop after the first sip.  It looks like you took 2 sips of Harry Potter. :P
You've never tasted something new, then had another bite/sip to make SURE it's as bad as you thought?

Meh, the books entertain me, that's all I need from them. (Also, some of the Minor Support characters are far more interesting than our protagonists)
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Re: Sorry about this - The next Harry Potter Thread
« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2006, 02:56:40 PM »
Why would adults think The DaVinci Code, or anything by Danielle Steele or wossname that wrote that Flowers in the Attic book (or her estate's ghost-writer, since she's dead but they're still churning them out) is a work of literary genius?

Maybe they just can't admit that it's a guilty pleasure and have to make it sound like it's actually good? Otherwise, dunno.

(I can fully admit that reading Salvatore is a guilty pleasure and that the books have no redeeming qualities. I'm not an adult.  ;) )

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Funny.  When the coffee is bad I stop after the first sip.  It looks like you took 2 sips of Harry Potter.

True. My only defence is that a few of my friends are hardcore HP fans and it would be nice to know what they are talking about.

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« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2006, 03:03:40 PM »
. . .The DaVinci Code . . .

¡NO MAS, POR FAVOR!  ¡NO MAAAAAS!

LOL  , so i am not the only person who thinks the DaVinci Code was lousy.  thank goodness !
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« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2006, 09:08:24 PM »
Why the rest of the world is so intrigued about the British boarding school experience, I have no idea.

 Trying to understand that unique British (English) heritage the led them to be one of the biggest empires evar. Also, people are trying to understand the whole spanking obsession. The English have spanking, the Germans have that diaper thing, Americans have fake bosoms.

 
. . .The DaVinci Code . . .

¡NO MAS, POR FAVOR!  ¡NO MAAAAAS!

LOL , so i am not the only person who thinks the DaVinci Code was lousy. thank goodness !

 What I love most about the Da Vinci Code phenomena is that some people have epiphanies. How that book can be revelatory is beyond me. Otherwise, gahh, it is crap. I just don't understand its success and its so old hat with its theories.

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« Reply #58 on: January 30, 2006, 09:11:11 AM »
Trying to understand that unique British (English) heritage the led them to be one of the biggest empires evar. Also, people are trying to understand the whole spanking obsession. The English have spanking, the Germans have that diaper thing, Americans have fake bosoms.

Which diaper thing?
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« Reply #59 on: January 30, 2006, 05:03:35 PM »
*Ahem*
Harry Potter? What? Oh, that's right. That's what this topic is about.

Just thought you'd all be thrilled to know that I just finished The Order, which was actually really, really good, and have started The Half-Blood Prince. I'm still disappointed that Sirius got knocked off, though. Oh well. I guess it's an essential part of Harry's screaming at his friends.

Anyway, Evaine, I have no clue what the diaper thing is either.
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« Reply #60 on: January 30, 2006, 06:25:19 PM »
The life of the party returns.  :D
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« Reply #61 on: January 30, 2006, 06:50:29 PM »
Welcome back :)

Say something fun about Harry Potter.
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« Reply #62 on: January 30, 2006, 07:32:15 PM »
Welcome back :)

Say something fun about Harry Potter.
It sucks! :D
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« Reply #63 on: January 30, 2006, 07:39:55 PM »
(http://www.stupidstudio.com/Images/illustrate/hairy-potter.jpg)
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« Reply #64 on: January 30, 2006, 07:59:22 PM »
My that is a purtty picture.
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« Reply #65 on: January 31, 2006, 05:33:34 PM »
I like the intricate use of oranges and browns.
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« Reply #66 on: January 31, 2006, 06:52:30 PM »
It would make a good avatar for Drew.
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« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2006, 04:03:50 PM »
I still say it'd be nice to see him in this tutu.

http://www.jhfsc.org/photogallery/Costumes/Pink%20and%20Black%20Tutu.jpg
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« Reply #68 on: February 03, 2006, 08:35:57 PM »
Anyone ever hear of this?

http://www.dumbledoreisnotdead.com/
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« Reply #69 on: February 24, 2006, 03:29:18 AM »
Also being among the 15-year-olds the novels are purportedly aimed towards pleasing, I must say that I have been horribly disappointed with the unbelievable amount of hype over the topic series since it came out. I read the first book around six years ago. It was alright - nothing too horrible, but it doesn't compare to the likes of *any* of the authors mentioned on this thread. (Not even Jordan.)

I've read books two through six just for the sake of reading them. Everyone else of a similar age with myself I know personally was madly in love and wanted to have JKR's children until the fourth book came out. Daily, I asked them "Why? Why do you stab your brain with vinegar-coated sharp implements in this way? You know it will only cause you pain."

All I got were crazed deer-in-headlights looks.

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On 'dandelions'. Oddly enough, it's not the adverbs in and of themselves that are a problem. Used sparingly and in conjunction with common sense, adverbs can provide a nice spice to a writing style. It's the 'tom swifties' that make anyone with experience or learning want to burn their own eyes out. Examples:

"I'm burning up," Tom said hotly.

"These jeans are wonderful," panted Tom as he ran.

etc.

Rowling has the annoying habit of restating the meaning of the adverb she uses in the words of the character speaking. Useful for those of us who haven't gotten through third grade english just yet and don't know what the heck words with three or more syllables mean.

Also. A couple of good ones that haven't been mentioned here yet:

 - David Gemmel's "Drenai" and "Rigante" series, plus a couple of side books - Fairly good stuff. Not the very best, but still worth reading. Gemmel has a very strong sense of the heroic - manages to make it come off both epic and plausible, but doesn't dumb anything down.

 - Steven Erickson's "Malazan Book of the Fallen" - Focuses on the human and inhuman sides of war, chaos, and destruction. Erickson has a sweeping style that focuses on macrocosm as opposed to microcosm. While it skips over a lot of bits that I for one would find interesting, he does a good job of telling a bloody huge story without getting bogged down in the details, stopping dead in his tracks, or pulling a Jordan.

 - Baker's "Prince of Nothing" - new stuff, and looks to possibly become my very favourite series with book three, based on the course of the first two. Sort of a cross between Gaiman, Erickson, and Martin. Good action, strong plot  with a solid feeling of mystery hanging in the background, yet, as the others mentioned, manages not to make the reader feel stupid.

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« Reply #70 on: February 24, 2006, 08:28:36 AM »
I am about halfway thru the third book in The Bartimaeus Trilogy"  by Jonathon Stroud.
all 3 books in the series have been excellent.
The Amulaet of Samarkand
The Golem's Eye
Ptolemy's Gate

i recommend them.  i really enjoy his writing style.  the narrator is Bartimaeus, a demon, with an attitude.
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