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Stoned
« on: January 08, 2006, 05:54:36 PM »
I was wondering how you guys like weed?

I think it great stuff:p


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Re: Stoned
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2006, 05:59:14 PM »
If you're stoned, why are you posting on the forum? Go outside, socialise, and look at the stars/buy a kebab...
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Re: Stoned
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2006, 06:30:00 PM »
i wish i could me hungry :D

but it was more about what people think of weed and such

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Re: Stoned
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2006, 07:05:07 PM »
Smoking weed is for people who are boring.

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Re: Stoned
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2006, 07:10:44 PM »
Personally, I'm against weeding.  I feel that since the weeds grow as easily as, well, weeds that it would be a lot easier to maintain them than grass.  Don't get me wrong, I like grass just fine, but anything that expensive and time consuming should really just be avoided.  I'd rather just have a beer and avoid the hassle.
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Re: Stoned
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2006, 07:33:36 PM »
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anything that expensive and time consuming should really just be avoided
   But cannabis isn't actually expensive, only outlawing it makes it such
   And besides, isn't it much more Vegan than say, coffee? It's a question, Drew
   And also, as a rule guys are much better when they are high, than when they are drunk
   And thirdly, it cures a lot of diseases
   And fourthly, don't forget Bob Dylan and the likes
   And fifthly, don't forget Bob Marley and the rest of his fellows
   Not that I'm a pothead myself, no

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Re: Stoned
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2006, 07:44:37 PM »
this is my obligatory sigh.
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Re: Stoned
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2006, 08:25:35 PM »
   But cannabis isn't actually expensive, only outlawing it makes it such
Marijuana won't be legalised until a plausible way exists to give field sobriety tests for it.  Let's face it.  A roadside piss test is just not an option.
   
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And besides, isn't it much more Vegan than say, coffee? It's a question, Drew
One item can not be more vegan than another.  It is either vegan or it isn't.  Besides, I drink fair trade coffee.
   
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And also, as a rule guys are much better when they are high, than when they are drunk
Personal taste.  I prefer my men drunk.  ;)
   
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And thirdly, it cures a lot of diseases
Marijuana doesn't actually cure any diseases.  It can, however, make the symptoms of chronic illness much more bearable.  Marinol (a marijuana derivative) was developed to actually do the same thing and is available for perscription already.  And you don't have to smoke it.  Admittedly, this takes away some of the fun, but is a much better option, from a medical perspective.  Of course, you could always cook your weed into a brownie......

Just so no one takes this the wrong way, I want to mention that I actually do think marijuana should be legalized.  But they've gotta find a way to do road tests for it first.

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Re: Stoned
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2006, 09:37:08 PM »
It can, however, make the symptoms of chronic illness much more bearable. Marinol (a marijuana derivative) was developed to actually do the same thing and is available for perscription already.

Here in Canada, where we're forward thinking and socially responsible and whatnot, medicinal marijuana is grown in a government run place in Manitoba (that's a province), just outside Winnipeg (a city in that province).  Apparently the best marijuana is grown in British Columbia (province), aka "BC Bud" (not a city).  Anyhoo, after the program had been around for a bit, the government began receiving complaints from the patients enrolled in it.  The pot was too dry, or tasted bad, or whatever.  They wanted the good stuff.

So yeah, there you have it.  A funny story about a pro-government sector of the populace complaining about how the government runs things.

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Re: Stoned
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2006, 09:49:43 PM »
I'm ambivalent to Ms. Mary Jane.  I do think that people who consider anything marijuana-related is automatically cool and/or funny are lame. 
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Re: Stoned
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2006, 02:50:29 AM »
I'm ambivalent to Ms. Mary Jane.  I do think that people who consider anything marijuana-related is automatically cool and/or funny are lame. 

Yeah; a place for everything, and all that jazz.
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Re: Stoned
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2006, 02:56:12 AM »
Well have any of you complainers tried it yourself? before you even judge?
cause I used it and liked it. But there is no chance that i'm gonna be addicted too it. and some soft drugs are legal here(Holland)

people can only look at the bad effect of drugs that makes me sick! people who never tried it and say all drugs is bad..
when i'm really really dressed and i smoke a joint then i'm relaxed for the evening so i can perform a bit better the next day (less stressed)

Drugs have some good effect, but the worst effect is that you get addicted quickly esp on hard drugs.. and that's what they show in media..
you know that in every hospital they use drugs..? just admit it a world can't do without drugs anymore so why block it? just make rules.


this is the same thing about alcohol...first every was saying bad blah blah en now it's legalised with rules..you think they won't do this with drugs too?
(not that i'm a fan of drugs myself, I do know however too look at the other side) which lacks in so many people


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Re: Stoned
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2006, 03:10:34 AM »
A friend of mine loves marijuana. Uses it every day. He's one of those people that has an adverse reaction to it. When he first started smoking at 18 he was outgoing, funny, spontaneous, caring and interested in others. Now he is a depressed paranoid 40 year old who can't maintain relationships or jobs and who keeps pissing off his fellow band members because he is completely unreliable when stoned. He's not too worried about the future because the toxins in dope are much stronger than just tobacco, and he's a prime target for lung cancer now. And he doesn't really have the attention span for such thoughts anyway.

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Re: Stoned
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2006, 05:06:25 AM »
Well have any of you complainers tried it yourself? before you even judge?

Do I need to be in a car accident before I understand that it is better to wear a seatbelt than not? Do I need to be hit by a truck to know that would be a painful experience?

No, I have never tried smoking marijuana, used any other drugs, nor have I ever drank alcohol. I don't have any kind of desire to alter my mental state just to have "fun" or to avoid problems that would still be there whenever I recovered from that altered state of mind. Whatever "benefits" gained from using such substances are, in my opinion, dwarfed by the possible consequences. It's not in any way a necessary risk to take. Smoking cigarettes seems even infinitely more pointless to me.



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people can only look at the bad effect of drugs that makes me sick!

Drugs have ruined the lives of countless people and affect more than those who stupidly choose to take the drugs.

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people who never tried it and say all drugs is bad..

There is sufficient information to show that drugs can have an incredibly negative affect on people's lives. We're not talking about escargot here, so the "don't knock it 'til you try it" mantra is garbage.

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Drugs have some good effect

That's subjective. You might gain temporary pleasure from using those drugs, but you're physically poisoning yourself.

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you know that in every hospital they use drugs..? just admit it a world can't do without drugs anymore so why block it? just make rules.

Street drugs and their uses are not the same as medical drugs and their uses, even if some of them share the same origin. The world would be just fine without street drugs.


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this is the same thing about alcohol...first every was saying bad blah blah en now it's legalised with rules..you think they won't do this with drugs too?

Drew has made a good case for why it is not a good idea to legalize recreational use of marijuana just yet. I think the usage of alcohol is stupid, too, and harmful enough to merit prohibition.

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Re: Stoned
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2006, 05:32:25 AM »
this is the same thing about alcohol...first every was saying bad blah blah en now it's legalised with rules..you think they won't do this with drugs too?

Erm, what? When alchohol was first discovered all those thousands of years ago, I doubt anyone thought it was bad, especially as it was soon discovered that it was an excellent way to kill water-borne diseases.  Even if anyone way back then did object to alchohol, the concept of law was most likely either non-existent or in its infancy at the time.
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Re: Stoned
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2006, 05:33:53 AM »
Oh, and I forgot to say, that while dope is great as a shared drug, it's not much fun on your own. No one to laugh with. The ritual of preparation seems to be fun for many, but I still find pouring a beer or glass of wine less drama. And dope really only works if you're a smoker - baking takes a lot of the biff out of it. It's also a hassle to grow secretly - hydroponically doesn't leave much room in your wardrobe and the light keeps you awake at night, and in the garden -well, there's just too many people looking over your back fence to be entirely comfortable with that. Also, drying it out is a pain, causing wonderfully strong aromas that are difficult to explain to the neighbours. Never liked the idea of dealers. It's also difficult to smoke in public. So all in all booze is easier. And just as much fun to share.

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Re: Stoned
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2006, 05:43:33 AM »
If anyone wants to try out an entirely legal drug, I recommend salvia (made, believe it or not, from a type of sage).  It caused me to have an out-of-body experience (I literally felt as though I was floating around my house), but I understand it can have all sorts of bizarre hallucinogenic effects on people.  In fact, apparently it's the most powerful naturally occuring hallucinogenic.

EDIT: oh, and salvia also has no proven health risks, and its not addictive either.

EDIT 2: actually, there are a few countries it is illegal in, such as Australia.  It's still perfectly legal in the UK and all but a handful of American states.
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Re: Stoned
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2006, 07:22:07 AM »
It never did anything to me but waste my money.  ::)

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Re: Stoned
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2006, 11:07:12 AM »
Well have any of you complainers tried it yourself? before you even judge?

Do I need to be in a car accident before I understand that it is better to wear a seatbelt than not? Do I need to be hit by a truck to know that would be a painful experience?

well that's a rather strange comparision isn't it?

No, I have never tried smoking marijuana, used any other drugs, nor have I ever drank alcohol. I don't have any kind of desire to alter my mental state just to have "fun" or to avoid problems that would still be there whenever I recovered from that altered state of mind. Whatever "benefits" gained from using such substances are, in my opinion, dwarfed by the possible consequences. It's not in any way a necessary risk to take. Smoking cigarettes seems even infinitely more pointless to me.



cause I used it and liked it. But there is no chance that i'm gonna be addicted too it. and some soft drugs are legal here(Holland)

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people can only look at the bad effect of drugs that makes me sick!

Drugs have ruined the lives of countless people and affect more than those who stupidly choose to take the drugs.

that's why i say people only look at the bad effects easy too target negative things. same thing like alcohol they only look at the bad effects. Alcohol has some good effects like good for the blood and such.
but you only look at the drug addicts. those are easy too target cause they are everywhere. so i would advice you too try it out and then say something about and maybe read a bit more about drugs and alcohol before u say general things (which are mostly the negative things)

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people who never tried it and say all drugs is bad..

There is sufficient information to show that drugs can have an incredibly negative affect on people's lives. We're not talking about escargot here, so the "don't knock it 'til you try it" mantra is garbage.
like i said before you only look at the drug addicts. soft drugs isn't that addictive. Hard drugs however is but that is also a thing that people mess with

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Drugs have some good effect

That's subjective. You might gain temporary pleasure from using those drugs, but you're physically poisoning yourself.
well someone who has smoked before and then started using weed. actually purified his lungs of the smoke
wow that's temporaily pleasure?

if your real stressed and don't know what to do. and smoke a join too relax and later on start doing things 1 by 1 that not good?

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you know that in every hospital they use drugs..? just admit it a world can't do without drugs anymore so why block it? just make rules.

Street drugs and their uses are not the same as medical drugs and their uses, even if some of them share the same origin. The world would be just fine without street drugs.

ofcourse their uses are the same
too drug yourself -.- the only difference that the hopsital does it when needed and people for pleasure



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this is the same thing about alcohol...first every was saying bad blah blah en now it's legalised with rules..you think they won't do this with drugs too?

Drew has made a good case for why it is not a good idea to legalize recreational use of marijuana just yet. I think the usage of alcohol is stupid, too, and harmful enough to merit prohibition.

It can be done, easily but most people don't know when too quit and get addicted. politics should make better rules and help people protect themselves. But you don't think of that don't you? you oly think of those addicted people who fuck up their life.

i don't smoke or smokes joints often and i'm feeling fine.
my life is stabile social and on work so wtf is the problem?
learn to control yourself and know what your doing before u use something
that lacks in so much people..





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Re: Stoned
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2006, 11:44:33 AM »
Apparently pot leads to bad spelling and poor grammar.  :)
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Re: Stoned
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2006, 11:47:10 AM »
Well have any of you complainers tried it yourself? before you even judge?
cause I used it and liked it. But there is no chance that i'm gonna be addicted too it. and some soft drugs are legal here(Holland)

Yep, though I don't any more.
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Re: Stoned
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2006, 12:24:07 PM »
Sorry when I read stoned, I had to think: Jehova! Jehova!, but sadly this is just about Afro-American Afghans (You are not supposed to say black right?). well nevermind, carry on.
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Re: Stoned
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2006, 01:16:09 PM »
but you only look at the drug addicts. those are easy too target cause they are everywhere. so i would advice you too try it out and then say something about and maybe read a bit more about drugs and alcohol before u say general things (which are mostly the negative things)

That's an excellent idea.  I think I'll go try some crack so I can see if it's bad or not.  Then maybe I'll set myself on fire, since I can't be sure that wouldn't suck until I try it.  Then maybe I'll go read up on jumping out of a 20-story building, on the off-chance I might really enjoy it (after I get done reading The Lottery, of course).

I'm hoping to get back to you with my research later today, but these damn drug addicts are everywhere.

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Re: Stoned
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2006, 01:45:28 PM »
I'd like to quote someone on this subject.

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Re: Stoned
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2006, 01:51:23 PM »
all scared of trying
how can u talk about something when you haven't tried it out for yourself?