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Re: Thief with no pick pocket ability: is it possible?
« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2005, 02:02:21 AM »
   What? Avenger, and that's it? He's gone, and no good-bye kiss? Then I'll cry a river this night, instead of falling asleep
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   In plain words, can anyone else tell me, where I can read about Timing method '9' (besides than in the last two Avenger's posts)?
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Re: Thief with no pick pocket ability: is it possible?
« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2005, 07:53:51 AM »
   Avenger, eventually I understood what you said
   I've just tried to do what you suggested. Same result, alas, i.e. PP=20%
   Perhaps I could try different timing values
   Do you think it doesn't matter whether I apply effect to creature or to an item to equip, btw?

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Re: Thief with no pick pocket ability: is it possible?
« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2005, 10:41:32 AM »
Do you think it doesn't matter whether I apply effect to creature or to an item to equip, btw?

Shouldn't matter.

Timing mode 9 = takes effect instantly, and lasts even if the creature is killed/raised.
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Re: Thief with no pick pocket ability: is it possible?
« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2005, 11:13:23 AM »
  So timing parameter
   1 - permanent
   3 - delayed duratiuon
   4 - delayed
   5 - delayed?
   6 - duration
   7 - permanent?
   8 - permanent?
   9 - permanent after death
  10 - trigger

   Can you suggest which of the timing values I should try (other than 1 and 9), or do you think that it's impossible to have PP=0 at all, by what I've already found out?

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Re: Thief with no pick pocket ability: is it possible?
« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2005, 04:16:46 PM »
@Lu: while It seems like there's no way you can drop Pick Pocketing below the base chance of success it will, for all intents and purposes, get the job done.  I believe that there is a way to drop the score permanently to the base chance for success even after using potions of master thievery and perception.  If an effect in the CLAB won't work, an item definitely will. ::)
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Re: Thief with no pick pocket ability: is it possible?
« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2005, 05:54:04 PM »
   I eventually realize how the effect that sets PP works (this also replies Drew's post)
   Basically (I don't know how to use subscript signs)
          PP = Pbase + Pbonuses (1)
 where Pbase is the value set in the .CRE file, Pbonuses is the total of PP bonuses (DEX modifier + RACE modifier + other modifiers, gained from items, maybe spells, whatever)
   Applying effect 92 with type 1 and value Peffect results in, instead of (1)
          PP = Peffect + Pbonuses (2)
 no matter whether the value timing is 1 or 9
   Why do I have a feeling that Bioware overlooked quite a lot about IE?

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Re: Thief with no pick pocket ability: is it possible?
« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2005, 08:02:55 AM »
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Why do I have a feeling that Bioware overlooked quite a lot about IE?
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