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Nalia's Aunt
« on: October 23, 2005, 08:54:54 AM »
Not sure if this has allready been reported but:

If you tell Nalia's aunt to 'prepare to die' you lose 2 virtue points.
When you kill her another 3 points! So -5 virtue for only one bad deed. Isn't it a little much?

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Re: Nalia's Aunt
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2005, 01:20:48 PM »
How much does killing a random innocent ding you?
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2005, 04:04:21 AM »
Killing an innocent -3 virtue.
Saying 'prepare to die' -2 virtue. That is just not right.
You should get -2 for killing the aunt.

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Re: Nalia's Aunt
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2005, 07:04:38 AM »
Actually she is a vile monster, so killing her should increase virtue.
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Re: Nalia's Aunt
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2005, 07:08:32 AM »
That's an error, yes. I'll remove the loss for saying you'll kill her.

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Re: Nalia's Aunt
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2005, 09:25:45 PM »
Actually she is a vile monster

Don't you think that's a bit harsh? I mean, sure, she's a horrible shrew . . . but I never thought she was evil.
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2005, 06:02:37 AM »
I'm sure that she is evil.
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2005, 09:32:40 AM »
I'm sure that she is evil.

But she's "officially" neutral. How do you figure?
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2005, 11:41:13 AM »
I agree completely with Sorrow in this case.  You should get a reputation INCREASE for removing the old b**ch  from society!

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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2005, 02:18:55 PM »
I'm sure that she is evil.

But she's "officially" neutral. How do you figure?

She's hurting a lot of people and she is arrogant towards her betters.
She's a monster in human skin.
Every good character should cleanse her evil from the face of the world.
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2005, 02:49:14 PM »
Who's she hurting, exactly?
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2005, 02:53:06 PM »
Her underlings.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2005, 03:07:19 PM »
I still don't think the fact that she's got a rotten personality makes her evil. Granted, she's not good -- but since actual neutrality exists within the game, just because you're not good that doesn't automatically make you evil. A lot of people in this world are bastards but still aren't capable of consiously killing or doing great harm to another person.

I think the real monsters are the people who are antisocial/sociopathic . . . people who lack the capacity for remorse completley. They usually come off as very nice, albeit selfish, before they hack you into pieces and bury you in a public park somewhere.
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2005, 03:12:33 PM »
I think that she needs to be exterminated anyway.
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Re: Nalia's Aunt
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2005, 03:33:13 PM »
Bloodthirsty maniacs do not virtuous paladins make.
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2005, 03:56:46 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2005, 05:33:38 PM »
I was actually joking about the aunt.  I usually impress Nalia re the aunt with my "amazing restraint."   But, on the subject of Nalia's "family", I think you can actually lose 4 REPUTATION POINTS if you hurt or mistreat the servant at the beginning of the keep quest (forgot his name).

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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2005, 06:20:46 PM »
I think that Nalia's Aunt lost a lot of reputation points.
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2005, 12:13:23 AM »
I was actually joking about the aunt.  I usually impress Nalia re the aunt with my "amazing restraint."   But, on the subject of Nalia's "family", I think you can actually lose 4 REPUTATION POINTS if you hurt or mistreat the servant at the beginning of the keep quest (forgot his name).

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Re: Nalia's Aunt
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2005, 12:48:52 PM »
That's the one.  He has a lot to say for a "loyal" de'Arnise servant.  He also gives valuable clues/intelligence about the nature of the supposedly "random" attack.  Amazing how all this valuable information passes completely over Nalia's head (nobody ever said she was smart!).  Also, doesn't Nalia leave the party (assuming she's in) if you mistreat the aunt?  I truly think the de'Arnise/Roenall situation could have been  much better written than the keep quest, funeral, get Nalia out of jail quest, and  "climax" if you are given the keep as a stronghold.  Very poor in my opinion.  (I usually play a Paladin -- with Virtue mod -- but have the Ease of Use Multistronghold element installed so I get the fighter stronghold and the Ranger.  The Paladin stronghold truly sucks.  After I receive these, I uninstall it.) 

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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2005, 02:32:39 PM »
Daleson is pretty poorly written. I just love how he puts in a plug on how you should take Nalia with you. Irritating.
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Re: Nalia's Aunt
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2005, 05:36:47 PM »
Heh, heh.   I hear that!

 

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