NPC Quests

[SimDing0™]

I suggest making it for Tutu because [...] [e]asier[...].

I think the "obviously unfinished NPC quests" that I've been harping on about lately would fit the UB mandate. Kagain doesn't respond to finding his caravan, Coran keeps on about the fucking wyverns for the entire game, Kivan doesn't care about Tazok, and probably some other stuff I don't remember.

[Ashara]

I think the "obviously unfinished NPC quests" that I've been harping on about lately would fit the UB mandate. Kagain doesn't respond to finding his caravan, Coran keeps on about the fucking wyverns for the entire game, Kivan doesn't care about Tazok, and probably some other stuff I don't remember.

Kivan reacts to Tazok - BG1NPC
Kagain recognises Silvershield's son as dead and pays out for finding his caravan - BG1NPC
Branwen reacts to seeing Tranzig - BG1NPC
Yeslick reacts to seeing Rieltar - BG1NPC
Coran's Brielbara's quest is expanded - BG1NPC
Jaheira reacts to seeing Senyad, her mentor and recieves a new quest from him  - BG1NPC
Denak reacts to seeing Dynaheir travelling in the party with Edwin - BG1NPC
...

I hope that helps.

[SimDing0™]

I hope that helps.

Thanks for listing some additional scenarios for consideration. I don't think differing interpretations should be a problem.

[Ashara]

As long as it is done as separate components in UB-TUTU, that should not be a problem - all of the instances of NPC reactions are covered by Phase II, so it can be omitted at install.

[SimDing0™]

Yes, I'd imagine UB-Tutu would come in similar separate components to the BG2 version. (It's up to Icelus what gets put in anyway. The NPC reactions are just my suggestion.)

[icelus]

So...

Where have you guys seen mention of the quests the NPCs were supposed to have?  The Kagain one is clear. 

[SimDing0™]

It's not "Bioware mentioned that they meant to do this" but rather "this is clearly, clearly, beyond a shadow of a doubt not finished at all".

[icelus]

Right, and I'm not trying to seem dense, but... what, um... might those be?

[Hendryk]

In her join dialogue, Branwen mentions Tranzig as the mage who turned her to stone and swears vengeance.  In his join dialogue, Yeslick mentions Rieltar as the "friend" who imprisoned and tortured him for the secret of the Cloakwood mine.

Also in BG1NPC, Skie reacts to Slythe and Kristin talking about her father's murder.

[icelus]

To be honest, this is rather low on my priority list.  Many (if not most) NPCs have their reactions covered by the BG1NPC Project.  If, however, someone wants to write up reactions, I will go ahead and code them. 

Just to keep track, here is a listing of the BG1 NPCs and the reactions that have been suggested so far.

Ajantis - none
Alora - none
Branwen - Tranzig reaction - Done! v1 by SimDing0
Coran - Wyvern reaction - Done! v1 by Idobek
Dynaheir - none
Edwin - none
Eldoth - Remind about Skie
Faldorn - none
Garrick - none
Imoen - none
Jaheira - none
Kagain - Caravan reaction - Done! v1 by Ascension64
Khalid - none
Kivan - Tazok reaction - Done! v1 by SimDing0
Minsc - none
Montaron - none
Quayle - none
Safana - none
Shar-Teel - Angelo reaction - Done! v1 by Ascension64
Skie - none
Tiax - none
Viconia - none
Xan - none
Xzar - none
Yeslick - Rieltar reaction

[icelus]

OK, I'm having problems tracking down the Coran/Wyvern bug.  The only dialog files that mention the wyvern are his pre-joining dialog (coran.dlg) and his interjection file (coranj.dlg).  His pre-joining dialog only sets the timer. 

Here are the relevent states from his interjection file:

IF WEIGHT #0 ~Dead("Wyvern")
InParty("Coran")
Global("CoranReward","GLOBAL",0)
~ THEN BEGIN 0 // from:
  SAY #16789 /* ~Now, we must take the beast's head, and bring it to the Song Of The Morning Temple in Beregost.  It is there that we can receive our reward.~ */
  IF ~~ THEN DO ~SetGlobal("CoranReward","GLOBAL",1)
~ EXIT
END

IF WEIGHT #1 ~!Dead("Wyvern")
GlobalTimerExpired("Coran","GLOBAL")
Global("CoranWyvern","GLOBAL",1)
~ THEN BEGIN 5 // from:
  SAY #17222 /* ~As much as I have enjoyed our jaunty banter, I simply must be going.  I've a wyvern to kill and simply cannot waste any further time.~ */
  IF ~~ THEN DO ~SetGlobal("CoranWyvern","GLOBAL",2)
LeaveParty()
EscapeArea()
~ EXIT
END

IF WEIGHT #2 ~!Dead("Wyvern")
GlobalTimerExpired("Coran","GLOBAL")
Global("CoranWyvern","GLOBAL",0)
~ THEN BEGIN 6 // from:
  SAY #17223 /* ~I could while away days on end in the company of friends, but there is business to attend to as well.  We must set out after our wyvern quarry soon, lest we lose the chance at all.~ */
  IF ~~ THEN DO ~SetGlobalTimer("Coran","GLOBAL",EIGHT_DAYS)
SetGlobal("CoranWyvern","GLOBAL",1)
~ EXIT
END

Here is his script (coran.bcs):

IF
   GlobalTimerExpired("Coran","GLOBAL")
   InParty(Myself)
   !Dead("Wyvern")
THEN
   RESPONSE #100
      ActionOverride("Coran",Dialogue([PC]))
END

Maybe I've been looking at this too long, but what's causing the bug?  It all looks OK to me...  I didn't see anything in Kelddath's dialog (keldda.dlg) that would cause a problem, either.

[icelus]

Nevermind.  It looks like Idobek already fixed this.  Hope you don't mind if I swipe it, Ido! 

Code: [Select]

REPLACE_TRIGGER_TEXT CORAN   ~NumTimesTalkedTo(0)~
                             ~~
REPLACE_TRIGGER_TEXT CORAN   ~True()~
                             ~Global("IKCoranWyvernFix","GLOBAL",1)
                              ReactionGT(LastTalkedToBy(Myself),HOSTILE_UPPER)~
ADD_STATE_TRIGGER CORAN    0 ~Global("IKCoranWyvernFix","GLOBAL",0)~
ADD_STATE_TRIGGER CORAN    1 ~Global("IKCoranWyvernFix","GLOBAL",0)~
ADD_STATE_TRIGGER CORAN   13 ~True()~
REPLACE CORAN
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 3
  SAY #899
  IF ~~ THEN DO ~SetGlobal("IKCoranWyvernFix","GLOBAL",1)~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 6
  SAY #902
  IF ~~ THEN DO ~SetGlobal("IKCoranWyvernFix","GLOBAL",1)~ EXIT
END
END

[icelus]

I don't see anything in Yeslick's or Rieltar's dialog file that doesn't trigger in regard to their recognition of each other.  It'll need to be written from scratch.

Same for Branwen and Tranzig.

And Kivan/Tazok.

[icelus]

So... anyone feel up to writing the dialog for Yeslick/Rieltar, Branwen/Tranzig, or Kivan/Tazok?

[SimDing0™]

Here are suggestions for Kivan and Branwen. If someone who actually has any feelings on the characters wants to edit them, that's fine, since I just opened up their DLGs and made some shit up.


Upon Kivan seeing Tazok
Kivan: Tazok! Do you recognize me? You will pay the price for the life of Deheran.
Tazok: Recognise you? I kill many. Why would I remember their faces? But if I missed you last time, I give you second chance. YOU DIE TODAY INSTEAD!
(Tazok turns hostile.)

If Tazok flees
Kivan: Flee, coward, but I will track you down. You cannot hide from my wrath.

Upon Tazok's death:
Kivan: The beast has fallen, and she is avenged. May his foul hide suffer eternal torment at the hands of his victims!


Upon Branwen seeing Tranzig
Tranzig: I know you! Finally got yaself freed, huh? A pity. I'd say ya looked better in stone.
Branwen: Taunt me as you wish, for your fate is already sealed. By Tempus, I shall strike you down!
(Tranzig turns hostile.)

As Tranzig begs for mercy:
Branwen: I shall grant you mercy, Tranzig. The same mercy you granted the merchants I strove to defend.
(Tazok should react as if the player refused mercy.)


BG1NPC's Yeslick/Rieltar is actually pretty good, but unfortunately Yeslick's tone has been replaced by Generic Dwarf so it's not really usable without rewriting the lines.

[icelus]

Kivan/Tazok and Branwen/Tranzig are coded.  Fuck Yeslick for now. 

[icelus]

http://www.sorcerers.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/1685.html#000004

*minor mod spoiler*

Well, Kivan and Tazok was quite a dissapointment. I was experimenting a little yesterday and if you talk to Tazok and persuade him to let you join the camp Kivan won't say anything.

If you have to fight Tazok to persuade him to let you in, once he leaves for the mines Kivan will shout something like "You can't hide for long" but nothing else happens.

I was kinda expecting Kivan to go into rage once he saw Tazok...

[Bex]

Kivan: Tazok! Do you recognize me? You will pay the price for the life of Deheran.

Just in case it's not corrected in the release, it's "Deheriana."

[icelus]

I think I changed that.  I think.  It's possible.  I don't remember. 

[SimDing0™]

Just in case it's not corrected in the release, it's "Deheriana."

"Deheran" is from the dialog. As far as I'm aware, Domi uses "Deheriana", but I'm not sure why.

[SixOfSpades]

It's from his soundset and corresponding subtitles. "Oh, my soul aches for my lost Deheriana."

[icelus]

I think it's the Baldurdash dialog.tlk patch that alters the dialogs.  I've got BD installed (shuddup!) and the texts are showing up as "Deheriana."

[Bex]

It was always Deheriana in his bio too, since way before I ever heard of mods or Baldurdash.

http://www.planetbaldursgate.com/bg/encounters/npcs/kivan/

[Echon]

On a normal BG:TotSC install, it says Deheriana in his biography, and Deheran in his dialogue if you Charm him.

-Echon

[SimDing0™]

I believe the logic must go as follows:

1) Deheran sounds more like a man's name.
2) He only uses it if you charm him.
3) Kivan is a closet gay!

Unfinished gay romance plz.