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Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« on: July 10, 2005, 05:58:48 AM »
Has anybody here experienced an issue where Minsc and Jaheira accuse you of being evil and leave the party almost as soon as they join? I can't seem to reproduce it, but two people elsewhere have had the problem, so it can't just be coincidence.

Since I suspect it may be a conflict with another mod, posting weidu.log files would be appreciated.

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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2005, 05:17:42 AM »
I've never had the problem, and it seems strange, since they should only be looking at reputation, not virtue, so even if you're evil, they have no reason to be unhappy...

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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2005, 07:54:09 AM »
I have this problem too. But I don't think it's mod related. I had installed Virtue18(the keyword is "had") and they left in a matter of seconds after joining, so I uninstalled.
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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2005, 05:49:03 AM »
After the previous message I installed the mod again and loaded my save game. My reputation was 14 and virtue was 14 too. This time noone left the party. So it is probably due to low starting reputation at the beginning of the game. My character is a LG sorcerer, I think LG characters start with REP 11 or 12, so probably you should change something in Minsc's and Jaheira's scripts so that they wouldn't leave at these levels.
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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2005, 02:18:53 PM »
My guess is when you first loaded the game it loaded a virtue of - which I guess comes up at 0 so they left. I've seen this before but I was in an evil party so I thought nothing of.
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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2005, 06:11:57 AM »
My guess is when you first loaded the game it loaded a virtue of - which I guess comes up at 0 so they left. I've seen this before but I was in an evil party so I thought nothing of.

No, that's not the case. I'm sure the reputation and the virtue of the protagonist were equal values(12)
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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2005, 03:11:17 PM »
you might want to double check because a few times after i've instailed virture an old pre virtue save game would have a virtue rank of -
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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2005, 04:56:03 PM »
Can you e-mail me a savegame prior to recruiting them in which they leave almost instantly and without reason?

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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2005, 11:13:54 AM »
I'll check if I still have one and send it to you.
But I doubt I have one, because when I experience problems connected to mods, I usually make save called Debug and look though it with nearinfinity. But I overrided it this week because I tested the Azure NPC I am making.
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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2005, 07:12:32 AM »
I'm sorry, the save is gone.

I started a new game so that I can make another save, but this time, oddly enough, there was no problem. I say oddly, because the previous time I started three new games, with absolutely the same mods installed(+virtue18 installed last), and the three times Minsc and jaheira left.
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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2005, 07:00:42 PM »
Can you e-mail me a savegame prior to recruiting them in which they leave almost instantly and without reason?

I've run into this problem, and will work on getting you a save game (after I install it and see if it does it again).  It may not, after that problem, I ran into others (I've got WAAAY too many mods installed  ;D) and just wiped the game clean and started over again from scratch.
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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2005, 11:49:59 PM »
I'm not having Jaheira and Minsc stalk off problem again, but I am having the problem of other NPC's joining, then asking me if I had made a mistake in asking them to leave - when I didn't ask them to leave.  Still trying to re-create the problem I did have before... sorry no savegame yet. :P
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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2005, 12:43:52 PM »
I have experienced this problem at The Friendly Arm Inn in BG1 when I recruit Jaheira and Khalid.
They join the party, and then instantly leave telling me they respect my decision although they might not agree with it.

I uninstalled Virtue, and I was then able to recruit them - this was through a long process of elimination.
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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2005, 07:44:52 PM »
I have this little bug happening to me right now. They decide, for some reason, that the starting virtue/reputation for a LN character is too low, and leave about 3 second after joining. It ceases to happen when I uninstall Virtue. I have a save, if you'd like it.

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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2005, 08:04:43 PM »
A save would be very useful. Send it to SimDing0@hotmail.com.

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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2006, 07:52:55 AM »
I encountered the problem on the very first start with a human paladin (therefore virtue and rep of 14).
Strangely enough only Jaheira left while Minsc stayed.
The second "bug" mentioned (NPC's behaving as if they'd been kicked out after they just joined the party) did occur with Kachiko of Tortured Souls, but not with Aerie or Yoshimo.
Haven't got any savegame though, sorry.

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~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #14 // Anomen Flirt Pack for TOB
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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2006, 08:50:54 AM »
Sorry, probably should have registered before posting...
Anyway, just played around a bit and now i've got a savegame. Reloaded it several times and always Jaheira leaves.And Aerie quit me soon after I left Waukeens Promenade with her - only Minsc seems to be too dumb to notice anything and Boo's probably asleep^^
I'll make a new installation now (of course keeping the old one for testing purposes :) ) in a slightly different order (should have installed Ease-of-Use prior to the rest...), and with some other Mods (Oversight for example) and retry...


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The new installation seems to work okay. Did Ease-of-use earlier and most of the NPC-related Mods (e.g. Flirtpack&Banterpack) last. I'll see how it turns out playing. Need the log of that one?

By the way, i noticed there's an incomplete german translation "included". Need someone to finish this? As there seem merely 60 lines left...
(I might add, that my reading skills are far better than my writing probably suggests. And of course i'll have some (about 5-20) people for proofreading)
« Last Edit: January 16, 2006, 05:01:28 PM by K.Murx »

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Re: Minsc and Jaheira pack up and leave?
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2006, 05:54:52 AM »
I've had this problem as well, except that I started as CE or NE and only Jaheira left.  Not sure what my virtue score was, but I had a feeling the virtue was the culprit.

 

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