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Offline SixOfSpades

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Public Nuisance
« on: May 01, 2005, 04:09:19 PM »
I just handed Sir Sarles the fake illithium and offended him deeply. Qar Jysstev is ranting about "social stigma," Lady Jysstev is in tears over the shame of it all, and the butler is simply oozing scorn as he shows us to the door.

Yet, despite the fact that the Jysttevs and Sarles are very high muckety-mucks, my Reputation did not go down. Qar Jysttev can certainly stir up a lot of heat in Athkatla for somebody like CHARNAME--I hear he's even one of the Council of Six.

Other possible Reputation hits: Talking nasty to Lady Delcia Caan? Giving Orianna a tongue-lashing? I wonder.

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Re: Public Nuisance
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2005, 07:47:56 AM »
I'll add a change in for the fake illithium path, thanks.

I think I'd have lynch mobs knocking on my door if I implemented a penalty for talking nasty to Delcia. :) But more seriously, I imagine she's fairly unpleasent about a lot of people, so anybody she tells about the party's bad manners is likely to take it with a pinch of salt.

The Orianna case highlights, I think, a more general question. Should dialogue options that are simply rude incur a reputation hit? Presumably she can potentially go off and tell somebody, but is it going to carry substantial enough impact to penalize the player, or should reputation changes be reserved for more severe situations, such as trying to deceive Sarles with the fake illithium (which would doubtless earn the party a reputation as liars and cheats)?

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Re: Public Nuisance
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2005, 08:04:07 AM »
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I think I'd have lynch mobs knocking on my door if I implemented a penalty for talking nasty to Delcia. But more seriously, I imagine she's fairly unpleasent about a lot of people, so anybody she tells about the party's bad manners is likely to take it with a pinch of salt.
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Re: Public Nuisance
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2005, 12:41:37 AM »
Should dialogue options that are simply rude incur a reputation hit?
Side-tangent to this idea; The other day, I was thinking about Saladrex (old news, I know), and how attacking him merits a Virtue hit because he doesn't actually threaten you. But if the roles were reversed, and the PC was the one acting pompous and condescending, he'd still get a Virtue hit for choosing conversation responses in a way that couldn't be termed as anything but deliberately picking a fight.
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....should reputation changes be reserved for more severe situations, such as trying to deceive Sarles with the fake illithium (which would doubtless earn the party a reputation as liars and cheats)?
Given that it's possible to come right out and say that "I was unable to get pure illithium, this alloy was the best I could do" (although this option should be removed if the PC has pursued the real deal as far as Unger), calling the party cheats and liars is unfair. Not that that will matter to Sarles and the Jysstevs, they'll still see fit to tread your good(?) name through all the mud they can find.

As for your real question, though, Rep influences such as Orianna should probably only have an affect if your Rep is already in the 8-12 range. Anything more extreme than that won't be swayed by a high-class hooker, no matter how many cottages she has.

 

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