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Offline Oddsbodskins

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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #100 on: April 11, 2005, 05:12:26 PM »
you guys are strict about that round here? *shifty paranoid eyes* :o

depends how you define immaturity no? as someone who probably should, but is currently making no attempt to, be a bit more mature, i think i'm thoroughly unqualified to comment on the original subject. ;)
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #101 on: April 12, 2005, 12:16:11 AM »
Because I don't know how to let things lie.

Can't have one without the other? Electricity disagrees with you. You can have a negative charge without having a positive charge anywhere to counteract it. Or you can have a positive charge with no negative charge to counteract it.
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #102 on: April 12, 2005, 03:41:08 AM »
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Can't have one without the other? Electricity disagrees with you. You can have a negative charge without having a positive charge anywhere to counteract it. Or you can have a positive charge with no negative charge to counteract it.
Partly true. but if you go look at the particals theory then its the otherway around. Opposites cant live WITH eachother.
if they thouch they go POOF and form pure energy(Launch a Positron against a Electron and see for you self :pirate). so this would compleetly destroy the hole good and evil theory.
and maby not. If you put good and evil in one room then they will also make alot of energy becouse they want to destroy eachother.....

oke this makes no sens. :( >:( :(

ill just shut up....im to immature.

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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #103 on: April 12, 2005, 11:25:58 AM »
well if there wasn't immature how could you be mature?:P

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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #104 on: April 12, 2005, 05:16:06 PM »
which is a bit differant from good or evil :P

maturity and immaturity are terms dependant on one another to provide their meaning, good and evil are seperate concepts.
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #105 on: April 12, 2005, 05:54:47 PM »
in what concept then?

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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #106 on: April 12, 2005, 06:08:56 PM »
could you put your question a little more clearly, it's probably me being tired and it being late but i'm not sure i get what you mean :-\
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #107 on: April 12, 2005, 07:23:49 PM »
Well maturity is the absence of immaturity (um. Or possibly the other way around)

Good and evil aren't quite the same. since you don't usually grow up doing evil and then become good. Or the opposite.
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #108 on: April 13, 2005, 11:54:07 AM »

Good and evil aren't quite the same. since you don't usually grow up doing evil and then become good. Or the opposite.


Children are capable of "evil" acts, and in many ways it is part of the development process to learn from the consequences of our wrongs that help us develop into good or...whatever type individuals.

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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #109 on: April 13, 2005, 05:05:19 PM »
hummm, yes, but good/evil is a bit cross ways to mature/immature, whereas mature/immature is (in theory) a gradual progression towards being a more reasonable *snorts* tolerant *snickers* and sensible *laughs outright* person, good and evil don't change, in the grand scale of things. genocide is bad when you're wee and bad when you're big ;)
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #110 on: April 14, 2005, 06:47:26 AM »
good and evil do change

just look at the crusaders from their side it was good they hunted down the protestants dunno how to name this in english

but the act itself was evil

just like america helped the europians in wo2 it was good they helped but evil they commited war:)

good and evil is relative and changes in your own opinion

and if your immature you don't know what is good and evil

and when your mature you know what is evi/goodl in your point of vieuw 

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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #111 on: April 14, 2005, 10:33:01 AM »
Are you even listening?  Their example was that a five year old doesn't commit genocide, then when he's 10 he doesn't go around oppressing small African nations, and finally graduate to minor acts of murder and vandalism at 15, only to go out and do missionary work at 20.
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #112 on: April 14, 2005, 11:01:27 AM »
(that's why my brain exploded and I gave up.  I think you're listening, Da, you're just not acknowledging it or anything else - and that is incredibly frustrating, to say the least.)

(Well.. I hope you're listening.  You could, of course, just be trying to drive us insane.  No two sides to that one, are there.  ::))
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #113 on: April 14, 2005, 11:18:27 AM »
hehe :)

and i think a kid could do that ghrey

i mean how else can you get new recruits for war?

tell kids lies and they make it the truth
unles they are shown something else

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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #114 on: April 14, 2005, 03:08:53 PM »
so, you're saying good and evil are human conceits? that they are what we want them to be? how does that connect to them being inseperable? if they are what we want them to be, then we just have to want them to not be inseperable surely?
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #115 on: April 14, 2005, 04:34:53 PM »
ofc it are human conceits :)

that's what makes us so social don't we?:)

animal's teach their puppets how they need to survive

human teach their children what's good or evil ;)

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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #116 on: April 14, 2005, 04:40:32 PM »
cool, so, since we both accept that, which is fine, it's froody, i completely agree, but, again, what's to stop us deciding they aren't inseperable? human conceits, after all  ???
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #117 on: May 03, 2005, 02:53:53 AM »
The rebels in war-torn countries get new recruits by a nasty, nasty cycle. 

First the go to an institution of education.   A school.

Then the shoot it up.  They say you can join them, or you can have your hand cut off.  They cut off your hand so you can't pull a trigger on them later on.

If you join (which most young, self-preserving children will do) they take a shank and put a knick in your head.  Then they smear in a combination of gun powder, saliva, and cocaine.  This drives the kid wonky.

They are then given a choice:  they can rape their sister or kill their parents.

Then they burn down the school and ride off (with their new poor souls) to perpetuate their cycle of violence.



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About good and evil:

Nope, not real.  Humans, being social creatures, are somewhat genetically programmed to think that acts which aid other members of the species (/ group / family / etc.) are 'good' while acts which don't are 'bad' or 'evil.'  (Think about it - how else could the early cavemen have survived?  In an every-man-for-himself environment filled with harsh elements, nasty predators, no good self-defense mechanisms but a big brain, no one lasts long.  Even the people smart and lucky enough to make it wouldn't get to reproduce, so their genetic material doesn't get perpetuated.)

As such, you then take what you've learnt (your own personal experience) and mix it with this subtle programming to build up your beliefs about 'good' and 'evil.' 

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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #118 on: May 03, 2005, 05:33:27 AM »
well the cavemen were learned to survive

human's are thought what is good and what is bad

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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #119 on: May 03, 2005, 09:36:58 PM »
well, i have been immature for 52 years as of today.  not quite forever, but getting closer.
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #120 on: May 04, 2005, 03:02:33 AM »
Happy Birthday melora! ;)
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #121 on: May 04, 2005, 05:56:51 AM »
Yes, happy birthday! And keep up the good work.
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Re: Can you be immature forever?
« Reply #122 on: May 04, 2005, 10:30:14 PM »
Thanks !
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