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Offline Kai of CandleKeep

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I don't understand...
« on: December 13, 2004, 07:17:03 AM »
I saw this in the ReadMe, and I'm a little confused.

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Q: Do I REALLY not have to start a new game?

A: Really. Although to get the Imoen/Jaheira banter about Yoshimo, you must have
had the mod installed before you visited Spellhold (and have Yoshimo in the
party for the fun.)

So Jaheira and Imoen have a banter about Yoshimo, but Yoshimo has to be in the party.....

But Imoen gets taken away right after Casa Irenicus, and by the time you get her back Yoshi has already left the party (in Spellhold).   How exactly do you get this banter to occur?  

Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I just don't get it.  Please pass the dunce cap.
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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2004, 08:21:53 AM »
Yoshimo has to be in the party when you go to spellhold, not when you have the banter.
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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2004, 09:21:11 PM »
Ohhhh.

**dunce** 
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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2005, 10:28:45 AM »
i hate yoshi..... blinking betraying git

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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2005, 11:01:54 AM »
Yoshi is a cool character ... Are you saying you wouldn't betray someone if you were under a death curse.
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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2005, 12:00:35 PM »
Yoshi is a cool character ... Are you saying you wouldn't betray someone if you were under a death curse.

ah... true. but not my friends

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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2005, 01:09:22 PM »
Really Yoshi only just met the party, he's not your true friend. The only reason you meet him at all is cause he looked for you.
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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2005, 01:16:45 PM »
Really Yoshi only just met the party, he's not your true friend. The only reason you meet him at all is cause he looked for you.

extreamly true... but i would of thought he would of grown to like you,

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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2005, 01:32:02 PM »
True but the whole time he knows he has to betray you so he'd try not to get too emotionally attached, I'd suspect he is very troubled by it all. See how dynamic his character is, not such a betraying git? :)
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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2005, 03:07:56 PM »
True but the whole time he knows he has to betray you so he'd try not to get too emotionally attached, I'd suspect he is very troubled by it all. See how dynamic his character is, not such a betraying git? :)
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GOD i hate it when other people are correct! but still, in films, (the incredibles, and ice age for example) the bad guys (sabertooth, and marage) watch the goodies, then decide to change sides, why not him? (sorry for the crap films for examples)

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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2005, 03:39:44 PM »
He was under a geas.  There was no changing sides for him; he could either obey or die.
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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2005, 03:40:54 PM »
He was under a geas.  There was no changing sides for him; he could either obey or die.

is there no way to remove a Geas?

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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2005, 03:45:00 PM »
Yeah, but he couldn't tell you about it, to get it removed, because one would assume Irenicus was smart/powerful enough to make it kill him in the event he told anyone.

See the Marek/Lothander poison quest in BG1 for another example of a geas.  One that gets cured, this time.
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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2005, 03:48:31 PM »
Not within the context of the game.

There's been lots of talk of modding in a way to keep Yoshi around, and one was even created, but in my opinion it's a mistake. Yoshi's betrayal/death is his defining moment, and one of the only events in the game that has any genuine impact. Removing it weakens his story-- and in my opinion the story of the game-- on a deep level.

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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2005, 03:54:15 PM »
Not within the context of the game.

There's been lots of talk of modding in a way to keep Yoshi around, and one was even created, but in my opinion it's a mistake. Yoshi's betrayal/death is his defining moment, and one of the only events in the game that has any genuine impact. Removing it weakens his story-- and in my opinion the story of the game-- on a deep level.
thats nothing, the "longer road" mod lets you have Irenicus in your team

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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2005, 03:57:48 PM »
Just because there is, doesn't mean there should be.  (Or, in more politically correct terms, doesn't mean everyone must/will/does like it.)
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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2005, 05:44:51 AM »
Just because there is, doesn't mean there should be.  (Or, in more politically correct terms, doesn't mean everyone must/will/does like it.)

true, - but the mod - (longer road) i must say R-U-L-E-S

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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2005, 11:03:42 AM »
Just because there is, doesn't mean there should be.  (Or, in more politically correct terms, doesn't mean everyone must/will/does like it.)

true, - but the mod - (longer road) i must say R-U-L-E-S

Is someone paying you to pimp this mod?  ???
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Re: I don't understand...
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2005, 11:16:00 AM »
Just because there is, doesn't mean there should be.  (Or, in more politically correct terms, doesn't mean everyone must/will/does like it.)

true, - but the mod - (longer road) i must say R-U-L-E-S

Is someone paying you to pimp this mod?  ???

i wish!!!  , by the way dose anyone know of anyone , or is some one, who needs a female voice actor? if so, tell them to e-mail me on irenicus_knightingale@yahoo.co.uk
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