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Ding0 on a rampage!
« on: November 20, 2004, 04:59:25 PM »
Okay, so I had a fit and spammed chat with all my thoughts on Keto's quest as I played through today. Here they are. On the positive side, I couldn't resist admiring this simply as a masterpiece of cutscening.

- So how come Keto still takes 50 gold off me even when I haven't bought her a drink? (I chose the "going upstairs" option).

* - Journal entry for Keto quest plz. Done, including different QUEST_DONE entries based on the outcome. -- JC

* - I also suspect that the Umar Hills should be revealed on the map when Keto gets her invitation. Convention with other quests, convenience, etc.

- Tewes is completely silent when my PC talks to him. I'd expect a voiced line, but there's not even a generic soundclip, which is just weird.

* - "And if you are inclined to listen," in the overhead text at the start of the competiton... I'm sure it didn't match the voicing. Sounded like there was a "for" in there.

* - "One thing more needing mention" might also not have had matched text/voicing.

- Unvoiced DisplayStringHeads. :( These are pretty bad. I'd suggest maybe converting more of the proceedings into proper dialogue if it's not all going to be voiced. This'd also be more convenient for nth-time players who want to click through everything, I guess.

- If the applause sound is matched with DisplayStringHeads, it should probably be ALL the time, rather than just on some occasions.

* - It's sorta disappointing that I'm getting the same response options for every bard coming on.

* - "What did you do relax after your feats of valour" - should the "do" be a "to"? The reply options are also present tense where the question appears to be past, which I find odd.

* - Clicking through all the audience saying "(gasp)" or "oh" is pretty boring after the trick used with the two girls inside the tavern. Suggest varying what they say, or having an invisible "Audience" CRE.

* - Lyrica's 'victory speech'... "the peasant are cheering" is lacking a plural.

* - Quest XP for sitting through cutscene plz. :DDD Seriously... it's not the most challenging quest, but General Rule Of BG2 says that for making the effort to go somewhere, I should get some XP. (You'll get between 3000-7500 party XP, depending on the results. I think that's more than fair. -- JC)

- Sir Joules song text gets displayed way too early, so it vanishes before he's done. Suggest having it show up when the lyrics start rather than the music. Also bear in mind that you can redisplay the same string to stop it fading out too early.

- When Keto's parents recognise her, there's a bit I can't really read because their text overlaps.

- The bardic competition going on while the town is under siege by shadows IS pretty weird. Could we have some acknowledgement in one of the dialogues, and maybe an explanation that bards are crazy, blah blah?

I was also curious as to whether Ulga only showed up if you'd made peace with Madulf, because I couldn't find her. And as a finishing note, I really enjoyed someone being struck by lightning during the performance. :)


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« Last Edit: November 21, 2004, 12:47:12 AM by jcompton »

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Re: Ding0 on a rampage!
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2004, 05:33:34 PM »
Okay, so I had a fit and spammed chat with all my thoughts on Keto's quest as I played through today. Here they are. On the positive side, I couldn't resist admiring this simply as a masterpiece of cutscening.

Yay us.

Assume the stuff I'm not answering, I'm just quietly fixing later. Or ignoring. :)

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- So how come Keto still takes 50 gold off me even when I haven't bought her a drink? (I chose the "going upstairs" option).

She's picking your pockets for being a dikc.

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- Journal entry for Keto quest plz.

Yeah. After 30 months I just didn't want to wait the extra time to figure it out, but we'll get there.

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- I also suspect that the Umar Hills should be revealed on the map when Keto gets her invitation. Convention with other quests, convenience, etc.

I agree that we should reveal it, yes.

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- Tewes is completely silent when my PC talks to him. I'd expect a voiced line, but there's not even a generic soundclip, which is just weird.

Her. And I suppose we could toss in the voiced line.

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- Unvoiced DisplayStringHeads. :( These are pretty bad. I'd suggest maybe converting more of the proceedings into proper dialogue if it's not all going to be voiced. This'd also be more convenient for nth-time players who want to click through everything, I guess.

Boinging out of the cutscenes again isn't an option that appeals to me. Voicing every line was getting... challenging.

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- If the applause sound is matched with DisplayStringHeads, it should probably be ALL the time, rather than just on some occasions.

I endeavored to do so. Do you remember or do you care to rediscover where it's missing?

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- It's sorta disappointing that I'm getting the same response options for every bard coming on.

That, I think, is a glitch because I think we wrote lines for the second half that I forgot to put in, but on the other hand a player will only see them twice in one gaming session. You played them all. :)

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- Quest XP for sitting through cutscene plz. :DDD Seriously... it's not the most challenging quest, but General Rule Of BG2 says that for making the effort to go somewhere, I should get some XP.

Yes, this is true, we'll look into it.

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- Sir Joules song text gets displayed way too early, so it vanishes before he's done. Suggest having it show up when the lyrics start rather than the music. Also bear in mind that you can redisplay the same string to stop it fading out too early.

Noted.

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- The bardic competition going on while the town is under siege by shadows IS pretty weird. Could we have some acknowledgement in one of the dialogues, and maybe an explanation that bards are crazy, blah blah?

Scrap, the kid who tells Keto where to go, does mention it, which is as much as I was willing to do for V1. Will try to intersperse a little more commentary as we go.

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I was also curious as to whether Ulga only showed up if you'd made peace with Madulf, because I couldn't find her. And as a finishing note, I really enjoyed someone being struck by lightning during the performance. :)

Heh, that's weird beacuse we keep doing Weather(NOWEATHER) but I've seen the town criers get zapped as I walk by playing normally, too. Just one of those freak happenings.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2004, 11:50:08 PM by jcompton »
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Re: Ding0 on a rampage!
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2004, 02:11:03 AM »
- Tewes is completely silent when my PC talks to him. I'd expect a voiced line, but there's not even a generic soundclip, which is just weird.

Her. And I suppose we could toss in the voiced line.

   :-\  and here i thought tewes' avatar - perhaps only due to the choice of colors or my contrast settings at the time - has the most stand-out chest in the game...
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Re: Ding0 on a rampage!
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2004, 07:42:18 AM »
@ weather: I thought it was a special extra statement that it was pissing nearly all of my run-throughs during the contest, so the noweather doesn't work for me.
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Re: Ding0 on a rampage!
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2004, 05:18:30 AM »
It rains on my bardic parade too. :)

Though nobody got struck by lightning in mine. :(

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Re: Ding0 on a rampage!
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2004, 10:42:46 PM »
You forgot this one:

"Heh, I had to call myself something. wouldn't do to be the anonymous bard, would it?"

The 'W' isn't capitalzed when Keto has a chit-chat with Kelsey.  That's all I really found.
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Re: Ding0 on a rampage!
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2004, 10:56:47 PM »
Yep. We'd spotted that one already, but thanks.
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Re: Ding0 on a rampage!
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2004, 06:37:31 PM »
Gang - I'm running V2.  I just booted her out after the competition to try another mod and her 'letters' remain in CHARNAME's inventory.  Don't know if this is a bug or not.

Off topic - of what use are the panpipes?  Can't move them or do anything with them.

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Re: Ding0 on a rampage!
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2004, 12:41:51 PM »
Gang - I'm running V2.  I just booted her out after the competition to try another mod and her 'letters' remain in CHARNAME's inventory.  Don't know if this is a bug or not.

It's the consequence of having them flagged quest-critical, meaning that the game won't decay the item. It's probably suboptimal to have Keto hand them over when leaving the party, but we also don't want you to drop them and lose them. :)

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Off topic - of what use are the panpipes?  Can't move them or do anything with them.

Just annoying detail. :)
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Re: Ding0 on a rampage!
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2004, 12:45:10 PM »
Bah, humbug! Just noticed I'm stuck with her bottle of wine, too!
Edited to add:  at least I can give her back her letters.  I had to go to Shadowkeeper to get rid of the bottle and give that back to her.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2004, 12:56:16 PM by Diana »

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Re: Ding0 on a rampage!
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2005, 04:43:53 PM »
Instead of scripting Weather, why not simply strip the weather from the area. I guess no one will miss the rain.

 

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