Unused Items

[icelus]

ITEM CODE	DESCRIPTION	COMMENTS
AMUL18	WOLFSBANE CHARM	BG1 LEFTOVER
AROW03	ARROW OF SLAYING	BG1 LEFTOVER
AX1H07	BALA'S AXE - WIZARD SLAYER	RESTORED BY UB
BAG01	WINTER WOLF PELT	RESTORED BY UB
BOOT09	BOOTS	UNUSED BAM, ODD EQUIPPING EFFECTS
C6LENS	LENS PIECE	RHYNN LANTHORN QUEST
DAGG09	SILVER DAGGER - WEREBANE	BG1 LEFTOVER
KEY01	CULT KEY	NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH KEY02, GAAL'S KEY
MISC1J	GLITTERING BELJURIL GEMSTONE	BG1 LEFTOVER
MISC3F	JADE HOUND	RESTORED BY UB
MISC5I	AM SI'S KEY
MISC5J	WRIT OF INNOCENCE	CUT HAER'DALIS QUEST
MISC6F	QUATARIS' CONFESSION	CUT HAER'DALIS QUEST
MISC6G	BUST OF SUNE	CUT HAER'DALIS QUEST
MISC6L	GOLEM BRAIN
MISC6R	NOTE TO ORDER
MISC6T	PLANAR STONE	NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE PORTAL GEM
MISC76	THE DREAM POTION	BG1 LEFTOVER
MISC7E	FAIRY DUST
MISC8J	BOOTS OF THE WEST	RESTORED BY UB
MISC8O	ISAEA'S SIGNET RING
MISC9B	VAMPIRE STAKE	NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE WOODEN STAKE
MISC9K	THIRD JOURNAL OF IRENICUS
MISC9S	MIND AMPLIFICATION DEVICE
MISCA4	POTION OF SQUIRREL CHANGE
POTN54	EMPTY POTION BOTTLE
PTION2K	POTION OF POWER, WIZARD	BG1 LEFTOVER
PTION2L	POTION OF POWER, PRIEST	BG1 LEFTOVER
PTION2M	POTION OF POWER, ROGUE	BG1 LEFTOVER
PTION2N	POTION OF POWER, WARRIOR	BG1 LEFTOVER
SW1H37	TARAGARTH +1	RESTORED BY UB
SW1H50	SHAZZELLIM +1	RESTORED BY UB
SW1H99	SWORD OF CHAOS	BG1 LEFTOVER
WAND14	WEB SACK	RESTORED BY UB

[Barren]

AMUL18
WOLFSBANE CHARM
AROW03
ARROW OF SLAYING
DAGG09
SILVER DAGGER - WEREBANE
MISC1J
GLITTERING BELJURIL GEMSTONE
MISC76
THE DREAM POTIONSW1H99
SWORD OF CHAOS (BONUS WIZARD SPELLS)

Leftovers from BG1.

[Barren]

AX1H07 BALA'S AXE - WIZARD SLAYER

Beats me.

BAG01 WINTER WOLF PELT

Restored (Beastmaster).

BOOT09 BOOTS (UNUSED BAM)

Restored (Greyhand).

C6LENS LENS PIECE

To restore (Lanthorn quest).

KEY01 CULT KEY (YOU ARE GIVEN KEY02, GAAL'S KEY)

Beats me.

MISC3F JADE HOUND

To restore.

MISC5I AM SI'S KEY

Beats me.

MISC5J WRIT OF INNOCENCE
MISC6F QUATARIS' CONFESSION
MISC6G BUST OF SUNE

To restore (HD's quest)

MISC6L GOLEM BRAIN
MISC6R NOTE TO ORDER
MISC6T PLANAR STONE (NOT THE PORTAL GEM)
MISC7E FAIRY DUST

Beat me.

MISC8J BOOTS OF THE WEST

Restored (Derrick)

MISC8O ISAEA'S SIGNET RING

Beats me.

MISC9B VAMPIRE STAKE (NOT WOODEN STAKE)

To restore (Kobold avatar plot)

MISC9K THIRD JOURNAL OF IRENICUS

To restore.

MISC9S MIND AMPLIFICATION DEVICE

Beats me.

MISCA4 POTION OF SQUIRREL CHANGE

To restore (Drow hole).

POTN54 EMPTY POTION BOTTLE

Confirmed to be only there for flavor.

PTION2K POTION OF POWER, WIZARD
PTION2L POTION OF POWER, PRIEST
PTION2M POTION OF POWER, ROGUE
PTION2N POTION OF POWER, WARRIOR

Not sure.

SW1H37 TARAGARTH +1

Restored (Merella's cabin)

SW1H50 SHAZZELLIM +1

Restored.

WAND14 WEB SACK

Restored, IIRC.

[chaz58]

AX1H07 BALA'S AXE - WIZARD SLAYER RESTORED BY UB

IIRC, this is also a BG1 leftover (well, TotSC). You find it in Durlag's tower. 

[Dark Raven]

PTION2K	POTION OF POWER, WIZARD
PTION2L	POTION OF POWER, PRIEST
PTION2M	POTION OF POWER, ROGUE
PTION2N	POTION OF POWER, WARRIOR

BG1 leftovers never used.

[Lord Kain]

what about the Cloak of Balduran from BG1. I think that item should be restored into BG2, I mean you can get his helmet his shield, his armor, and his sword. The cloak is the only thing you can't get with out cheating.

And another thing PLAT08 was this plate mail+3, it was golden and looked really cool. It still does in BG2 if you CLUAConsole for it. However the description for the item is gone so is the name.

[rreinier]

The Cloak appears in the Lich in the Docks component of the Tactics mod...

Of course, you will usually get your ass handed back to you rather than a cloak, but still, it's there 

[Riklaunim]

Code: [Select]

PTION2K POTION OF POWER, WIZARD
PTION2L POTION OF POWER, PRIEST
PTION2M POTION OF POWER, ROGUE
PTION2N POTION OF POWER, WARRIOR
Something like IWD I items....

[SixOfSpades]

MISC76, The Dream Potion, is indeed a holdover from BG1 but not used there either. *pause for ideas being beamed into my head by aliens* I just thought of a cool use for it: I've always hated Jan's quest for what it is, a bunch of time-consuming FedEx quests that make no sense whatsoever. A much better way (to my mind) would be to cut the Hidden and the Githyanki out of it altogether, and instead make Vaelag more substantial. The Dream Potion, or to be more precise, the bottle that contains the Dream Potion, is what he used to poison Lissa's mind: It sucked her willpower away from her, and replaced them with what was previously in the bottle--emptiness. This atrophy of the mind will persist until a Cleric of sufficient level places the bottle in contact with Lissa's lips once again, and reverses the flow.

Hey, what do you know, I rambled on about something and still managed to have it vaguely connected with the forum topic.

And I'll echo Lord Kain's opinion that the Plate+3 from Durlag's Tower should be reinstated in the game, with its name and description restored. Preferably obtainable in a place more accessible than the Planar Sphere. Pity that BG2 can't use BG1's old avatar for the Helm of Glory: The Plate+3, Ashideena, Helm of Glory and Large Shield+2 made one stylin' fashion statement on the battlefield.

And "rreiner," why do you bother using pseudonyms if you're going to be so obvious about it? Go tell it to Terminsel!

[jester]

what about the Cloak of Balduran from BG1. I think that item should be restored into BG2, I mean you can get his helmet his shield, his armor, and his sword. The cloak is the only thing you can't get with out cheating.

And another thing PLAT08 was this plate mail+3, it was golden and looked really cool. It still does in BG2 if you CLUAConsole for it. However the description for the item is gone so is the name.

Actually I am rather appalled by all these trinkets following me around. I mean I have been all over the place and everything that I did not carry during my capture should really be someplace else. The only thing I have yet to rediscover right next to me is Balduran's butter knive.

[SixOfSpades]

Actually I am rather appalled by all these trinkets following me around. I mean I have been all over the place and everything that I did not carry during my capture should really be someplace else.

You mean the game should detect what items are on your imported character, and only those BG1 items should be present in BG2? That would kind of suck, since PC Mages, Thieves, and Bards would get screwed out of the Helm of Balduran, PC Warriors would have to play the game without finding any Archimagi Robes, etc.....not to mention that a character rolled in BG2 would lose out on all items potentially carried over from BG1.

Even if not, the items would still follow you, even if you didn't take them with you to the final battle of BG1. Everybody knows that the whole Bhaalspawn crisis will come to a head in Tethyr, so every adventurer worth his salt must decide to either
A) Gang up with some friends, scrape together the best gear we can buy/borrow/steal, and head to Tethyr to take advantage of the situation (primarily by killing other people who had the same idea and taking their gear), or
B) Go hide in a cave somewhere and wait for all the crazies to kill each other off.
So you've got a pretty large percentage of the adventuring population (including everyone who plays this game) heading south to Tethyr, and taking with them all the worthwhile items thay can get their hands on. That's a substantial items drift, without even including the PC.

[Barren]

Actually, the files for the quest involving the Dream Potion are still there, as Nimrod pointed out.

[rreinier]

And "rreiner," why do you bother using pseudonyms if you're going to be so obvious about it? Go tell it to Terminsel!

I was sorely tempted to play along, but I'm afraid the "pseudonym" is even more obvious than you think, since my RL first name is Reinier (which you can't pronounce, so don't bother trying  ).

Only reason I didn't use my actual name is that "reinier" was already taken back at BIS...

[jester]

@Six: I see your point and it has some story value. I always saw recurring items as a convenience for developers and a welcome deja-vu for players to bond with the game (Hey, that dead old hag is wearing my cloak which I found about a year ago in BG, damn. Off to the cleaners again, I guess). Luckily there is not much that you have to wear off any liches. Comparable  items should still be there, but others. Very often when browsing the guidebooks I am quite surprised by the amount of trinkets my party can amass even before Spellhold. With the improved encounters, Yoshimo and some potions of  invisibility, you own everything and the kitchen sink which is purchaseable in Amn in no time.

[Barren]

@rreiner: I'm french, so I can pronounce it 

[rreinier]

@rreiner: I'm french, so I can pronounce it 

You're close to it then, except that the "ie" sounds like English "ee" 

BTW, it's rreinier, not rreiner   

[Barren]

Kind of like "engineer", yeah...

[rreinier]

Exactly. 

Didn't we have some sort of a topic here, BTW? 

[Bibbi]

a lot of these seem like the designers just changed their minds on how to implement things or forgot that they had already planned an alternative path, or some combination.  am si's key and the cult key, for instance, could have been the same things as their in game counterparts, but maybe two different designers made them before realizing the mistake.  the same could be said for most things we're not sure of

the one strange one is the fairy dust, which afaik has the same bam as holy water.  it makes me think of the fairy queen in the dryad hills, maybe some connection with the yoshimo thread we found traces of.  it would have to be involved in some sort of fey encounter, i think, and there aren't that many in the game.  the druid grove could be another place, maybe in the stronghold quests.

[Barren]

Is there any mention of fairy dust in PNP dungeons and dragons? What does it do?

[Bibbi]

make you fly?    I have no idea from a PnP standpoint, though isn't there the glitterdust spell which renders the party invisible or detects invisibility or somesuch?  it could be something to be traded, too, like if the fairy queen has some to give to someone else, and the party needs to deliver it, or some other such fun fedex quest...

[Iapetus]

To restore (HD's quest)

MISC6L GOLEM BRAIN
MISC6R NOTE TO ORDER
MISC6T PLANAR STONE (NOT THE PORTAL GEM)
MISC7E FAIRY DUST

Beat me.

Note from Order:

Here in this note I beseech the noble knights of the Most Noble Order of the Radiant Heart to answer my call of desperation. There are, at this moment, beasts of huge size and ferocity rampaging on my lands. Ogres and their fell kin have killed my peoples and tenants, and I have not the means to rout them. For all that is good, will you descend upon them with your righteousness?  I await your response.

Lord Jierdan Firkraag

You could put that on one of the knight/ogres that you fight at the start of the Kirkraag quest.

[Aristothenes]

Glitterdust...let me see what I have here (2E player's Handbook)
Glitterdust
(Conjuration/Summoning)

Range: 10 yds./level   Components: V, S, M
Duration: Special   Casting Time: 2
Area of Effect: 20 ft. cube   Saving Throw: Special

   This spell creates a cloud of glittering golden particles within the area
of effect. Those in the area must roll a successful saving throw vs. spell
or be blinded (-4 penalties to attack rolls, saving throws, and Armor
Class) for 1d4+1 rounds. In addition, all within the area are covered by
the dust, which cannot be removed and continues to sparkle until it fades.
Note that this reveals invisible creatures. The dust fades in 1d4 rounds
plus one round per caster level. Thus, glitterdust cast by a 3rd-level
wizard lasts for four to seven rounds.
   The material component is ground mica.

Oh, yeah, if you want to talk about inconsistencies:
Why don't boots of speed age your characters (like the Wish spell?)
...and many more...

[Barren]

Well, why doesn't Wish age your character? Age just isn't relevant in BG2 because of the short time frame.

[nurgles_herald]

TOT-

I never really liked the idea of boots of speed aging your character.  Though haste might make a little sense, wish certainly makes sense, the fact that boots of speed ages a character blows my mind.  I can't remember which theory proved this, but the following is true: as you go faster, the world around you ages faster than you do, proportionate to your speed (i.e. the faster you go, the slower time affects you).  Basically, because boots of speed only increase your speed by letting you run faster (as opposed to the Haste spell, which affects your biological make-up).  Really, though, making characters age by using powerful things was just a game balancing mechanic that defied all logic and reality.  Oh well , at least TSR did a good job everywhere else in DnD.