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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2004, 06:06:13 AM »

 in my obtusion, i cannot see what makes 'carp' more appropriate than 'bugger'.
 in this context.  ::)
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2004, 06:26:53 AM »
I like Dilbert. ;D

'Carp' more correctly expressed what I feel. 'Bugger' was a little too boofy in this instance. For your own safety, don't try trawling my mind. :)

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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2004, 06:40:17 AM »
For your own safety, don't try trawling my mind. :)

  much obliged for the warning, but i think i'll waive all rights and protections. :pirate  (you can always *not answer*!)
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2004, 07:11:07 AM »
Heh. In that case, it's best to quote Westley at you - "Gently!" ;D

This must be my cultural exposition thread.

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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2004, 08:03:51 AM »
Heh. In that case, it's best to quote Westley at you - "Gently!" ;D
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well, there's precious little *australian* culture [correction: post-colonial farm and city culture.  although i suppose that's redundant in a way, since 'australian' isn't exactly aboriginal] that i haven't been exposed to - although i am at least ten years behind on that score...  but give it a whirl, especially from the NT or WA angle...  or a zinger from [the] dreamtime?
  obviously with an inherent 'gaming couple' theme... ::)
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #55 on: October 15, 2004, 05:20:31 PM »
Actually it deviated a bit from the article I wanted to discuss which of course everybody had a look at just like the odd readme you browse now and then. :P
I read it, and to a small extent I've lived it. I just didn't feel like commenting at the time.

I met a lady in a chatroom once upon a time. She, myself and another chatroom friend got into playing Diablo. We worked great as a team; he was the warrior who fearlessly charged into the fray, she was the rogue with the sharp eye and quick bow, and I was the sorcerer with the lightning and fire. Sometimes a lot of resurrecting went on; humor was always present. There was a little bit of roleplaying romance, with the warrior occasionally telling us to get a room, but not much. After all, we already had a chat site and instant messaging. Alas, she passed away (in RL) shortly after Diablo II came out, and that was that.

While playing Diablo II, I've seen married couples split up and I've seen single people progress to the point of marriage. Most people get stuck somewhere between.

I haven't played any of the MMORPGs, but I have no doubt of what goes on there. Spouses who are bored are always on the lookout for that refreshing romance with a new person. Lonely single people figure it's a fun, and safe, place to hang out and look for love. With the anonymity of the internet, you never really know who you're talking to, and you don't have to reveal yourself to others if you don't want to. Sure, most people tend to be honest, but there are alway those bad eggs, and I feel sorry for anyone who falls for their deception.

These days I keep my close friends local, as in less than two hours away by car. I'm finished with long-distance relationships, in games or otherwise. My fiancee doesn't play computer games, and that's fine with me.

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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #56 on: October 15, 2004, 05:53:57 PM »
OK. I have finished crying now. I would like to second Reverendratbastard's suggestion that we play the ball, not the person.
Could we not descend to snide comments and casting nasturtiums on the intellectual and moral judgements of others? That would be so much nicer. Neriana and Kish, you both need to go to the thinking chairs, and calm down. Neriana, you are right, contradicting others is not snotty and rude. It's the other statements that are the problem. I have had to speak about put-downs before this, and how they are unacceptable. I hope I am not going to have to hand out another behaviour proforma. That would be so disappointing.  Ashara, you may want to consider carefully before you ascribe beliefs to others that they do not actually hold. Alarielle, your statement is unfinished. Please say why you think that. It would be so much more interesting.

Thank you Cliffette, for understanding my point. Yes, that is what I was saying. It's my opinion based on my experience. I expected the conversation to continue along the lines of "I think you are wrong. This is my experience, and it contradicts yours." Which is how I thought we conduct discussions here. After all, aren't we here to discuss our different viewpoints?And not to slag others for holding a different view?

Rev, you are making DANGEROUS statements about Australian culture there. Troublemaker. Luckily, there appears to be only two people whose hackles can be raised by your inflammatory comments. You may think I am going to refer to our vigourous arts and drama communities- ha! ha!- I most certainly am not.  How can you say that when we have Kath and Kim? (Completely off-topic, I know, but the off-topic has a fatal lure for me. And given the necessity for cigarette label-type warnings on this thread, perhaps it's a good thing.)
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #57 on: October 15, 2004, 07:36:44 PM »

 well, there's precious little *australian* culture [correction: post-colonial farm and city culture.  although i suppose that's redundant in a way, since 'australian' isn't exactly aboriginal] that i haven't been exposed to - although i am at least ten years behind on that score...  but give it a whirl, especially from the NT or WA angle...  or a zinger from [the] dreamtime?
  obviously with an inherent 'gaming couple' theme... ::)

You're discounting STEVE IRWIN?!?!
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Oh, and here's something for all the gaming couples, from Tripod (you'll have to register):
http://sanity.destramusic.com/promos.asp
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #58 on: October 15, 2004, 07:51:19 PM »
Hmm, well I've never really played online games, except for one attempt at my brother's house playing Ultima online and finding it confusing.  The only interaction with another player I had was someone trying to lend me a horse (which I couldn't work out how to facilitate anyway :)) and then finding out they were a young teenage boy from Japan(the other player, not the horse!).  It was all too weird for this old married woman!
My husband and I play computer games together a lot, we also pen and paper roleplay frequently.  We have some characters in our roleplaying that we started years ago that now are grandparents and have extended families and dominions. :)  I could not imagine having a spouse that I did not share computer and other game playing with.

Oh and Reverendratbastard, if you are in the states now then you haven't missed any develpment in the last 10 years of Australia's culture.  Australia is an American franchise now.  We have homeless people, the working poor, right wing religious groups forming political parties and Starbucks. ;)
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #59 on: October 15, 2004, 11:39:24 PM »
Eral: QED. I have had romance without sex. I'm guessing Alarielle has too, and Ashara, and... well, everyone I've known well enough to know about their romantic lives has, with the exception of my cats, as far as I know. (And I think one of them just may have romantic feelings for that big black tomcat who keeps coming to the window...) Books on the subject include the works of Shakespeare and Jane Austen, among many, many, many, many, many others. There are as many different romantic relationships in the world as there are people in them, because no two people view a relationship in exactly the same way. There are as many different ways of loving as there are people in the world. Being a 28-year old woman who has had plenty of romantic and sexual relationships in my life (not necessarily overlapping), I am perfectly qualified to say that I know what is love for me.
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2004, 06:11:19 AM »
Three people who can be offended. :D

We have Starbucks? This can't be! Where? (Please don't say Melbourne, the home of good coffee. I'll have to move.)
KIrving, your list is depressing in it's accuracy.

But we do have Leunig and Tandberg and John Clarke, as well. All is not yet lost.
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2004, 10:33:07 AM »
Alarielle, your statement is unfinished. Please say why you think that. It would be so much more interesting.

My statement is finished.  Statements, by their very nature, do not require explanation or reasoning.  :)
I have had romantic relationships without sex, and I have had sexual relationships without romance.  The two do not go hand in hand.  That is my opinion.   :)
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2004, 06:30:13 PM »
 :)
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2004, 07:04:09 PM »
Three people who can be offended. :D

We have Starbucks? This can't be! Where? (Please don't say Melbourne, the home of good coffee. I'll have to move.)
KIrving, your list is depressing in it's accuracy.

But we do have Leunig and Tandberg and John Clarke, as well. All is not yet lost.

You told me not to say it so close your eyes for a moment or skim quickly over the next sentence.  Yes, in Melbourne. :(  There is one on Chapel Street, no less!  I was horrified when I saw it and found myself crossing to the other side of the street and glaring.  I then went to one of my favourite coffee haunts on Glenferrie Road, sipped on a long black with perfect crema and realised that all is not lost. :)

Ah...Leunig, his regular contiribution to The Age is one of the only things to get me through this year.  A bright light holding back the dark shadows of conservatism. :)
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2004, 07:54:56 PM »
On Chapel St!  :o How is this possible? Shouldn't there have been a violent revolt against it in the streets? Has Chapel St so lost its sense of itself that it allowed this corruption?
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #65 on: October 17, 2004, 01:12:32 AM »
Rev, you are making DANGEROUS statements about Australian culture there. Troublemaker.

  what are you gonna do - revoke my citizen-by-extraction certificate?  that's a permanent document dammit. 8) :-ban

  seriously tho - i may not have worded that properly (i often do that when i cram a huge parenthetical/bracketthetical/whatever in the middle of a not-exactly-simple-to-begin-with sentence), but what i was saying was that there is very little post-colonial-city-and-farm australian culture to which i haven't been exposed.  *not* that that is all there is to "australian culture" (hence the subsequent even-more-sentence-cuisinarting afterthoughts.)
  besides, why would i want to be making any enemies in the old country when i might be visiting in a few yrs? :D ;D 8)
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #66 on: October 17, 2004, 02:26:04 AM »
[there is very little post-colonial-city-and-farm australian culture to which i haven't been exposed. quote]

Now that KIrving has pointed out to me the depths to which we have fallen here, don't worry, we'll be kind to you when you get here. If you have already been exposed to these horrors all your (young?) life, you deserve all the kindness you can get.
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #67 on: October 17, 2004, 06:32:28 AM »
 I will preface my comment by stating that I have only read page three of the comments and the possibility that I might be missing something is likely.

1) Platonic Romances - In my observations they have always seemed like a cop out at best and sleazy at worst. I am sure platonic romances may also be attributed to indecision.

2) Kath & Kim - An explanation would be nice. How come this show is the number one show in Australia?

3) Starbuck's - I will maintain that Starbuck's has the best cafe mocha in my area (we have a 1/2 dozen painfully earnest and correct coffee shops in my area) when of course it comes with two extra shots of of espresso.


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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #68 on: October 17, 2004, 07:12:30 AM »
Cause Kath and Kim is awesome of course! :D or are awesome...awesomeness is the key at any rate
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #69 on: October 17, 2004, 07:24:41 AM »
Kath and Kim is a painfully funny depiction of two Australian women. They are caricatures, yet horribly, hilariously real. Everyone has heard/seen/knows one. It's a celebration and brutal assassination of middle(lower?) Australia.

Starbucks may be all that to you, but for us, they may be the thin edge of the wedge. Will Mario's and the Unversity Cafe and Pelligrini's be gone before we know it? America already owns our TV, please, don't take Moccopan from us. And Grinders. And Cafe Mio. (I'll stop, before I start to sob wildly.)
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #70 on: October 17, 2004, 07:31:35 AM »
And this is all on-topic because coffee is romantic. And Kath and Kim are a couple of game women. :)

I tried.


@Regullus: How can a platonic relationship be sleazy? I understand the cop out part. :D

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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #71 on: October 17, 2004, 08:09:32 AM »
Though I admire your inventiveness,Cliffette, I have to say I think it's a lost cause trying to get back on topic. I think Jester has noticed his thread has been hijacked. Luckily, he is a man of broad and tolerant understanding, or he would have complained way before.
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #72 on: October 17, 2004, 08:45:12 AM »
How can I complain in the face of such an outright flattering statement? Deviation is a big part of the fun, I guess. :D
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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #73 on: October 17, 2004, 10:08:22 AM »
 I realize now that I should have read the entire post before commenting.

@Eral - Well, I did not say that Starbuck's was "all that" just that the cafe mocha was the best in my area. Also thanks for explaining Kath & Kim, I thought it had to be satire.

@Cliffette - When I think of platonic romances I think of several that I have personally observed, or been told about it. All of them have shown at least one of the people involved (and in some cases all of the people involved) in a less than flattering light.

 A common type is that of the person who gets an ego boost from someone having a romantic interest in them. They are in essence using the person for self gratification and have no intention of permitting the romance to develop past a certain point. This type is usually involved with another person.

 For me, using someone for self gratification and self aggrandizement with no care or respect for their feelings is a tad sleazy.

  I have other tales of but all are tawdry and not terribly nice.

 That said, obviously, people may develop deep and important relationships over long distances, that do not necessarily involve sex, and these relationships may be fully satisfying to all parties.

 

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Re: A question for all the gaming couples out there
« Reply #74 on: October 17, 2004, 12:57:11 PM »
we'll be kind to you when you get here. If you have already been exposed to these horrors all your (young?) life, you deserve all the kindness you can get.
frankly, they never compared horror-wise to the hideousness of american-style jingoism.  yes, young, haven't been down for almost 11 years, used to be an annual trip for 1-4 months, both sides of the family grew up there (mum's in albury/wodonga, dad's in melbourne, some scattering to sydney, vacation in robe, and dad&stepmum just retired to kybong (gympie area)).  tapered off through high school while all of my older cousins vowed and bred.

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