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Re: What will be in v10?
« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2004, 10:11:52 AM »
Well, you can always come to Ashford City if you want... Many Interplay regulars ended up there.
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Re: What will be in v10?
« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2004, 04:42:21 PM »
What is the "pants" thing?

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Re: What will be in v10?
« Reply #53 on: May 25, 2004, 05:08:24 PM »
Well, you can always come to Ashford City if you want... Many Interplay regulars ended up there.

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Re: What will be in v10? (Spam split-off)
« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2004, 06:05:25 PM »
Of course, joining both is also fine (until you get banned).
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Re: What will be in v10?
« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2004, 03:00:00 PM »
Hmm... how about a some minor editing to the singing wizard in the 7 vales inn? You know - he recites, then gets into a an argument with the inn owner - who says that he's there for spellcasting/security, not as enertainment.

But as it stands, no one remebered to code him as a wizard... incapable of casting spells and so on... which seems odd, as he even has the wizard avatar/paper doll.

If he was a low-level wizard, that would make more sense. Would also get a bit of help taking down Mencar...

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Re: What will be in v10?
« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2004, 08:41:18 PM »
Yay a version 10. I'm still on number two I think. Well it used to be.  ;D
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Planned Changes...
« Reply #57 on: June 05, 2004, 05:12:27 AM »
Err... could a brief description be added to each? As it stands I'm not quite clear on:


-Viconia's lycanthropy problem - Huh?
-The Twisted Rune/Slavers/Roenall/Skin dancer interaction - Isn't that solved via a file from baldurdash that let's you find a note in the slaver stockade?
-Keldorn's Old Friend?
-Aerie's Kidnapping?
-Deril the lich and Cernd - Err... what's wrong with it as it is?
-Dialog option: trying to raise Khalid - Don't we already have that?
-Original tougher Shade lord - Optional with the improved battles mod, and not baddly done...
-Ulvaryl's dialog?
-Longer Waukeen's Promenade cutscene - whyever for? Most people install the shorter cut-scenes...
-Drenden Shale taking care of Jaheira?
-Minsc and the dryads - they already dominate him if you don't agree to help them...
-Dog meat and vampire blood?
-Nilthiri's disease - who?
-The underdark squirrel hole?
-Iron golem brain?
-Amaunator statue's riddles?
-Falik coming to you for help - who?
-Sahuagin ambush in the Sphere - whatever for? You already have Sahuagin, and plenty of ambushes...
-Eldarin and the slavers random encounter?
-Yoshimo and the nymphs?
-Sister Venenna?
Lord and ladies - must every atmosphere adding interaction turn into a quest?

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Re: Planned Changes...
« Reply #58 on: June 05, 2004, 06:24:04 AM »
Lord and ladies - must every atmosphere adding interaction turn into a quest?
The purpose of this mod is to restore things that were planned by Bioware but cut.
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-Longer Waukeen's Promenade cutscene - whyever for? Most people install the shorter cut-scenes...
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Re: Planned Changes...
« Reply #59 on: June 05, 2004, 07:03:25 AM »
Dogmeat? you mean my fav NPC has a cameo. :D

-Viconia's lycanthropy problem: after it was so vividly discussed in the first thread about this, this would be well received. The Gibberlings should love another shapechanger in particular.

Deril is a paramount omission. I mean a door to nowhere, a lich, a test. This is a shining UB example.
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Re: Planned Changes...
« Reply #60 on: June 05, 2004, 09:12:57 AM »
Overall it has to be said that the UB team showed good judgement, usually, when it comes to draw a line between flavour loose ends and cut quests/things.
As is apparent by the fact that UB didn't connect everything to the Rune.  :P
Sometimes one can't help but wonder whether the "cut" by Bioware was that they cut deleting all vestiges of dropped ideas, but if those vestiges are there, it falls into the scope of UB.
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Re: Planned Changes...
« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2004, 01:50:08 PM »
Err... could a brief description be added to each? As it stands I'm not quite clear on:


-Viconia's lycanthropy problem - Huh?

Mentionned by D. Gaider.

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-The Twisted Rune/Slavers/Roenall/Skin dancer interaction - Isn't that solved via a file from baldurdash that let's you find a note in the slaver stockade?

There was more to it.

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-Keldorn's Old Friend?

Vakola, a fallen paladin.

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-Aerie's Kidnapping?

By the mage Thraxis Gall,r esulting in her becoming some sort of vigilante with no pity for evil.

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-Deril the lich and Cernd - Err... what's wrong with it as it is?

There's a creature file (unused) for Deril as a lich. A CG lich.

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-Dialog option: trying to raise Khalid - Don't we already have that?

There's more.

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-Original tougher Shade lord - Optional with the improved battles mod, and not baddly done...

There's still an unused file for him.

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-Ulvaryl's dialog?


The vampire in Chateau Irenicus.

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-Longer Waukeen's Promenade cutscene - whyever for? Most people install the shorter cut-scenes...

It was still planned to be longer. But yes, it should definitely be an optional component.

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-Drenden Shale taking care of Jaheira?

A druid taking care of her while she's cursed by Ployer.

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-Minsc and the dryads - they already dominate him if you don't agree to help them...

Maybe... I could never get it to work. You confirm that it's working?

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-Dog meat and vampire blood?

Probably related to the crystal shard and Dace Sontan.

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-Nilthiri's disease - who?

The troll shamaness, druid stronghold quest.

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-The underdark squirrel hole?

You can get there with a squirrel changing potion. We don't know where it is and where it leads though.

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-Iron golem brain?

Probably the one you assemble in the planar sphere. Maybe another part could be found instead f that useless extra coal?

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-Amaunator statue's riddles?

Not sure which statue.

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-Falik coming to you for help - who?

The wolfwere in Firkraag's lair.

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-Sahuagin ambush in the Sphere - whatever for? You already have Sahuagin, and plenty of ambushes...

The door was supposed to lock behind you.

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-Eldarin and the slavers random encounter?

No real info, just a "who's that guy?" thought.

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-Yoshimo and the nymphs?

Apparently, he leaves your party after encountering some nymphs, and you have a banter with him about how he escaped from ther (did he kill them?)

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-Sister Venenna?

Someone mentions her in a temple of Ilmater. I don't think she's UB.

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Lord and ladies - must every atmosphere adding interaction turn into a quest?

Nope. Of course not.
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Re: Planned Changes...
« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2004, 02:05:18 PM »
Barren, you should probably post some of the specific details in the workroom.  There are a lot of people, myself included, who don't know the specifics on many of the items on the list, and the current descriptions are rather vague.  :(
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Re: Planned Changes...
« Reply #63 on: June 05, 2004, 02:08:07 PM »
There's a creature file (unused) for Deril as a lich. A CG lich.
Considering what he's like as a human, I suspect the CG part would have been an Oversight had that quest not been cut.
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-Minsc and the dryads - they already dominate him if you don't agree to help them...

Maybe... I could never get it to work. You confirm that it's working?
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Re: Planned Changes...
« Reply #64 on: June 05, 2004, 07:47:52 PM »
Barren, you should probably post some of the specific details in the workroom.  There are a lot of people, myself included, who don't know the specifics on many of the items on the list, and the current descriptions are rather vague.  :(

Well, make a list of the items you'd like clarified  ;D
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Re: Planned Changes...
« Reply #65 on: June 05, 2004, 10:21:23 PM »
Barren, you should probably post some of the specific details in the workroom.  There are a lot of people, myself included, who don't know the specifics on many of the items on the list, and the current descriptions are rather vague.  :(

Well, make a list of the items you'd like clarified  ;D

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Re: Planned Changes...
« Reply #66 on: June 06, 2004, 11:34:21 PM »
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does anyone have the info to this or a link to where he mentioned it.
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-Deril the lich and Cernd - Err... what's wrong with it as it is?

There's a creature file (unused) for Deril as a lich. A CG lich.
normally i'd be intrigued by the cg lich, but irenicus was also cg leading me to believe that non party npc alignment choices are random.

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-Longer Waukeen's Promenade cutscene - whyever for? Most people install the shorter cut-scenes...
I'd rather see the longer ones for extra plot content.
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-Drenden Shale taking care of Jaheira?

A druid taking care of her while she's cursed by Ployer.
She leave the party tempararaly?
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Re: Planned Changes...
« Reply #67 on: June 07, 2004, 12:07:20 PM »
Johny's stats were cut-and-pasted from Elminster.

What kind of plot development do you feel is missing from the promenade scenes?

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Re: Planned Changes...
« Reply #68 on: June 07, 2004, 12:16:16 PM »
What kind of plot development do you feel is missing from the promenade scenes?
There were several voiced lines, as well as a bit of dialog from the Shadow Thieves (I think) that was cut.  IIRC, there is a different cutscene script altogether.  When I get home this evening I will try to post the information from the old Studios board about the cutscene.
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Re: What will be in v10?
« Reply #69 on: June 12, 2004, 04:04:45 PM »
Hmm... how about a some minor editing to the singing wizard in the 7 vales inn? You know - he recites, then gets into a an argument with the inn owner - who says that he's there for spellcasting/security, not as enertainment.

But as it stands, no one remebered to code him as a wizard... incapable of casting spells and so on... which seems odd, as he even has the wizard avatar/paper doll.

If he was a low-level wizard, that would make more sense. Would also get a bit of help taking down Mencar...

Done, though I have not altered his scripts, simply changed him from "Innocent" to "Mage."
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Re: What will be in v10?
« Reply #70 on: June 12, 2004, 10:10:06 PM »
List updated... um... a LOT.  :)

Brace yourselves, everyone.  Version 10 is imminent!
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Re: What will be in v10?
« Reply #71 on: June 14, 2004, 12:18:08 PM »
Hmm... how about a some minor editing to the singing wizard in the 7 vales inn? You know - he recites, then gets into a an argument with the inn owner - who says that he's there for spellcasting/security, not as enertainment.

But as it stands, no one remebered to code him as a wizard... incapable of casting spells and so on... which seems odd, as he even has the wizard avatar/paper doll.

If he was a low-level wizard, that would make more sense. Would also get a bit of help taking down Mencar...

Done, though I have not altered his scripts, simply changed him from "Innocent" to "Mage."

Why not make him a bard instead? IIRC, that's what his description said. Plus, "Innocent" is only for determining whether the player loses reputation points for killing him. I think even Firebead was an innocent.
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When will it end?
« Reply #72 on: June 18, 2004, 10:55:30 AM »
Will there ever be a time when all UB things will be finished? Or will this modding community have collapsed before that's even possible?


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Re: When will it end?
« Reply #73 on: June 18, 2004, 11:01:12 AM »
Everything that has a beginning has an end, Neo.

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Re: When will it end?
« Reply #74 on: June 18, 2004, 11:06:21 AM »
Neo?

 

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