Author Topic: Torgal's Claw  (Read 1851 times)

Bazitine

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Torgal's Claw
« on: July 05, 2003, 09:01:28 PM »
This weapon seems so strong... slow or -str and 2D6?
I'm soloing a F/M/T and it just seems so powerful... for a mere dagger.  I'm trying to decide whether or not I should keep using it; Torgal wasn't *that* hard.  I don't know if defeating him justifies using it... anyone else have any opinions?  Other people's answers will help me decide whether or not I'm going to use it on my solo character

Mike B.

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Torgal's Claw
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2003, 05:15:18 PM »
I think the weapon is fine as is.  I always do Nalia's Keep early in the game (day 10 or less).  Thus, this weapon is used by my fighter/mage early on. This weapon is not a game breaker.  Consider that the both the Strength drain and Slow are temporary.  The strength loss is only 1 point and that assumes the enemy fails his saving throw.  Most enemies have mid level strength (12-17).  Thus, there is virtually no effect on combat until their strength drops quite low, say 3-6, when they start to get subtractions on THACO and damage.  The monster is probably long dead by the time his strength gets that low.  Slow is a weaker version of the flail of ages because it allows a saving throw.  I don't solo, but I suspect your character is already casting slow in most battles.  Finally, as far as the damage goes it is 2d6 not a flat 12 points of damage. The damage with the dagger is very comparable to that of a +2 long sword or the +3 battle axe found in the Keep.  In short, this is a great weapon in the early to mid game until you find a replacement.  Torgal's Claw is a good weapon but certainly not in the same league as the Staff of the Magi, Daystar +4 (from item upgrade) or Celestial Fury.

Moonfruit

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Torgal's Claw
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2003, 05:18:04 PM »
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This weapon seems so strong... slow or -str and 2D6?
I'm soloing a F/M/T and it just seems so powerful... for a mere dagger.  I'm trying to decide whether or not I should keep using it; Torgal wasn't *that* hard.  I don't know if defeating him justifies using it... anyone else have any opinions?  Other people's answers will help me decide whether or not I'm going to use it on my solo character
In the unmodded game, it is one of the more powerful weapons (probably right up there with CF), but if you have all these improved battles and things installed the weapon quickly becomes just another one of those "every-day" ones.

However, if you still feel it's too powerful then just don't use it.  :ph34r:

AvatarofInsolence

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Torgal's Claw
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2003, 02:51:49 PM »
Personally, I always give it to Valen, and wield her claw in the off-hand. It works quite nicely on her, and balances out her level draining quite well, IMO.  

 

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