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Friends and Neighbors => Weimer Republic (WeiDU.org) => Solaufein Workshop => Topic started by: Tsuru on February 13, 2003, 03:08:49 PM
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And we all know what goes here...
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Flower Banters. Tsuru-sama said I should run it past here. Too short for a two-part banter? Too long for a flirt?
Flower Banter 1 (Low Level) [Forest Area]:
4.a. (Come see the flowers with me.) (goto 4.b.)
4.b. (Solaufein joins you to peruse freshly opened night blossoms by the wayside. You pick a particularly lovely bloom, so pale it is as bright as a mirror in the moonlight. Its scent reminds you of honey and fresh, running water.)
i. (Give the flower to Solaufein.) (goto 4.c)
ii. (Keep the flower and continue admiring it.) (goto 4.d.)
4.c. I have read of surfacers giving flowers to the ones they love. [Charname], what is the meaning of your gift?
i. I gave you a present. Do you have to ask why? (goto 4.e.)
ii. It made me happy, and it makes me happy to give it to you. (goto 4.f.)
iii. It's just a gift, nothing more. (goto 4.g.)
iv. Take it or leave it. (goto 4.h.)
//Meaning of Gift Responses
4.e. I apologize. I did not mean to seem ungrateful. (goto 4.i.)
4.f. I am happy to hear this, although, I do not know why you would think me worthy of such beauty. (goto 4.i)
4.g. I see. (goto 4.i.)
4.h. [Charname], I understand I might seem ungrateful, but that was truly uncalled for. (Solaufein returns your gift and walks off.)
// End Meaning of Gift Responses
4.d. Tis a beautiful thing true, but there are creatures far lovelier about this night.
4.i. (Solaufein rolls the stem between his thumb and his forefinger. Although apparently deep in thought, he does this carefully, even gently, and breathes deeply of the flower's perfume.) Thank you.
Flower Banter 2 (Low Level) [Forest Area]:
5.a. [Charname], I have a gift for you. It is a small thing, but I would like you to have it all the same.
i. A gift? That's sweet. (goto 5.b.)
ii. What is it? (goto 5.b.)
iii. If it's that small, come back when you have something larger. (goto 5.c.)
5.b. (Solaufein hands you a fragrant white lotus, pure as the virgin moon.)
i. It's lovely. Thank you. (goto 5.d.)
ii. A flower? That's it? (goto 5.e.)
iii. I can't accept this. (goto 5.f.)
iv. I have read of surfacers giving flowers to the ones they love. Solaufein, what is the meaning of your gift? (5.l.)
// Flower's Worth Replies
5.d. I am glad you like it, simple though it is. You cannot know how much it pleases me to know you have liked it. This fair bloom is charmed. Its beauty, like our friendship, will not fade with the years. (goto 5.g.)
5.e. You misunderstand me, [Charname]. The lotus is beautiful, but its beauty is but the skin of its virtues. The lotus heals. It is the clearest state of mind, and the greatest balm of the soul. Your acceptance of me lends me strength. This lotus represents what I wish to offer in kind to you.
i. That's...the most beautiful thing anyone's ever said to me. Thank you. (goto 5.h.)
ii. I had no idea I meant so much to you. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I will cherish this lotus, as I will cherish our friendship. (goto 5.h.)
iii. You would compare me to this cheap bloom? After all I've sacrificed for you, is this the best you can do? (goto 5.i.)
5.f. Why?
i. It's too lovely. Too fragile. (goto 5.e.)
ii. What would I do with it? (goto 5.g.)
iii. It is cheap, and worthless. (goto 5.i.)
5.g. Keep it close and keep it well, as I hope you will me. While the lotus is beautiful, its beauty is but the skin of its virtues. The lotus heals. It is the clearest state of mind, and the greatest balm of the soul. Your acceptance of me lends me strength. This lotus represents what I wish to offer in kind to you.
i. That's...the most beautiful thing anyone's ever said to me. Thank you. (goto 5.h.)
ii. I had no idea I meant so much to you. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I will cherish this lotus, as I will cherish our friendship. (goto 5.h.)
iii. You would compare me to this cheap bloom? After all I've sacrificed for you, is this the best you can do? (goto 5.i.)
//End Flower's Worth Replies
5.c. [Charname], I admit my gift is inadequate, but surely you would do me the favor of hearing me out?
i. I have nothing more to say to you. (goto 5.i.)
ii. Ah, Solaufein. You misunderstand me. I was not referring to your gift at all... (goto 5.j.)
iii. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to say that at all. Can you forgive me? (goto 5.k.)
5.h. No, thank you. Had I but more to share than mere words...But come, let us continue on our way. We have much to do.
5.i. [Charname], why are you so cruel? I thought I escaped these petty concerns when I left the Underdark, but I see now that surfacers are just as capable of such callous behavior, if not better. I will not make that mistake again.
5.j. (Solaufein contemplates you a moment, and you wonder just what sort of trouble you've wandered into this time. The man suddenly makes a face you don't recognize on him, and to your utter surprise, Solaufein begins to laugh, a completely spontaneous, full belly laugh. Seeing him laugh makes you laugh too, and when you both choke so hard you have to stop and catch your breath, Solaufein playfully clips your ear.) Impudent [girl/boy]. What will I ever do without you?
No. That is why I have this. (goto 5.b.)
5.k. (Solaufein smiles.) What have you said? I forget. (goto 5.b.)
5.l. (Solaufein smiles.) I will never forget those lines, my friend, and the answer you gave me. But our conversation is exactly why I have chosen to present you with this. I hope you will keep it close and keep it well, as I hope you will me. While the lotus is beautiful, its beauty is but the skin of its virtues. The lotus heals. It is the clearest state of mind, and the greatest balm of the soul. Your acceptance of me lends me strength. This lotus represents what I wish to offer in kind to you.
i. That's...the most beautiful thing anyone's ever said to me. Thank you. (goto 5.h.)
ii. I had no idea I meant so much to you. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I will cherish this lotus, as I will cherish our friendship. (goto 5.h.)
iii. You would compare me to this cheap bloom? After all I've sacrificed for you, is this the best you can do? (goto 5.i.)
*end*
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*reworking on Imoen commenting on PC/Solaufein's relationship*
[!--EDIT|Sphira|Mar 27 2003, 09:16 PM--]
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You know... it is a bit middle schoolish but I find it somewhat difficult to actually tell the person I’m flirting with that I’m *going* to flirt with them. It just seems... wrong. So I have decided to make Imoen even MORE useful than she currently is. :D
LOL! I like it, Sphira. You may need to adjust how Sola speaks (i.e. I don't think he'd say "Is something up"), but I love the general idea. :)
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Oh, I'm planning on changing the speech pattern for Sola. Just didn't think of anything better to say when I was typing this out. :P
I just did! :D
[!--EDIT|Sphira|Feb 15 2003, 01:15 AM--]
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Oh, I'm planning on changing the speech pattern for Sola. Just didn't think of anything better to say when I was typing this out. :P
You know my editor muse, sweetie ;)
You do a good job on the final versions, I know that for myself ;)
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And I forgot to say how much I love the flower flirt. :3 But I'm a bit confused on this dialouge path.
iii. If it's that small, come back when you have something larger. (goto 5.c.)
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5.c. [Charname], I admit my gift is inadequate, but surely you would do me the favor of hearing me out?
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ii. Ah, Solaufein. You misunderstand me. I was not referring to your gift at all... (goto 5.j.)
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5.j. (Solaufein contemplates you a moment, and you wonder just what sort of trouble you've wandered into this time. The man suddenly makes a face you don't recognize on him, and to your utter surprise, Solaufein begins to laugh, a completely spontaneous, full belly laugh. Seeing him laugh makes you laugh too, and when you both choke so hard you have to stop and catch your breath, Solaufein playfully clips your ear.) Impudent . What will I ever do without you?
Uhm... I don't get it. Could you explain it to me by PM? :unsure:
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EEEEe! Dratted msgboard restrictions. There's a bit of that dialogue missing...um.
5.j. (Solaufein contemplates you a moment, and you wonder just what sort of trouble you've wandered into this time. The man suddenly makes a face you don't recognize on him, and to your utter surprise, Solaufein begins to laugh, a completely spontaneous, full belly laugh. Seeing him laugh makes you laugh too, and when you both choke so hard you have to stop and catch your breath, Solaufein playfully clips your ear.) Impudent [girl or boy]. What will I ever do without you?
*notation*
The small and large reference was really under the belt, and when the PC says "If it's that small, come back when you have something larger..." she or he means quite literally, come back when you have something larger. Thanks for pointing this out though. It means I've gone and made the entire point way too subtle.
Ooh, and like your Imoen suggestion. Sola could benefit from more 'darkness' in the conversation, although you did say that was a rough draft, so. :)
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Thought after the thought. Sphira, what happens if your party doesn't have Imoen...?
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Thought after the thought. Sphira, what happens if your party doesn't have Imoen...?
If someone isn't in the party, the dialogue won't happen. Dialogues for specific party members are coded so they appear just if that person is in the party.
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No, I meant that if Imoen wasn't in the PC's party, the PC would have to tell Solaufein what's a flirt anyway...but then again, Solaufein's a pretty smart chap. Perhaps he might ask what the winking and manhandling's about?
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Ack. My brain's all funny. Forgot. The original premise of the flirtpack *was* Solaufein asking the PC what's up with the winking...Sorry. *choke* *sputter* *sputter* *WhEeZE* *dies*
Zzzznnnnoooorkt!
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No, I meant that if Imoen wasn't in the PC's party, the PC would have to tell Solaufein what's a flirt anyway...but then again, Solaufein's a pretty smart chap. Perhaps he might ask what the winking and manhandling's about?
Somewhere we have a dialogue that may initiate the flirting... hold on, let me find it here...
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Sola: Is something caught in your eye, CHARNAME?
PC: No.
Sola: Then why do you grimace so?
PC: It’s called winking.
Sola: I see. And what is the import of this?
PC: Don’t the drow wink? How do they signal a …possible…interest in one another?
Sola: Hah! Females of rank dispatch a squad of armed guards to escort the selected one thither. Commoners usually begin negotiations through their elders.
PC: But that’s for formal liaisons, surely? What about more … casual interest?
Sola: Amongst us, no interest is “casual”. Each whim is pursued as though it were the only goal in the universe – while it lasts.
PC: Nothing conditional? No “what ifs” or maybes”? How do your people … flirt, for example.
Sola: Ah! In my readings I have had encountered references to ‘flirtation’ but I have never clearly understood the term. What does it mean?
PC: With us, it’s a sort of behavior, I’d guess you’d say, designed to explore…possibilities…in relation to another. Gestures, like winking, tones of voice, postures…they’re all as important as the actual words.
Sola: Hmmm. I can see the necessity for such conditional modes here on the surface. In Ust Natha, everything is tightly circumscribed – as much by physical constraint as anything. Strangers are extremely rare – save as slaves or enemies. Here, however, meeting strangers – without hostility – is a daily commonplace. It is so wide…and fluid. Almost unnerving, if one concentrates on it.
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There, I thought I'd saved it but I had to go dig it out of the monster thread. Thoughts, comments?
[!--EDIT|Tsuru|Feb 15 2003, 06:49 AM--]
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*choke* *sputter* *sputter* *WhEeZE* *dies*
*casts Raise Dead*
No dying allowed.
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Well, I was thinking Jaheira would pull Sola over and dicuss this with him -BUT- I don't see her actually doing this when the PC is male and she's persuing him as well as Sola.
I'm a bit aganist the PC saying anything because think about it; IRL would anyone go up to their crush and say "I am flirting with you now."? But I will devise a few more dialougs after this one with NPCs giving Sola the low down.
Ideas For the Lecture
Nalia- Tho her wisdom is a bit low for her to really notice.
Haer-Dalis- But the question is would he even care?
Uhm... *thinks* Anyone else?
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*notation*
The small and large reference was really under the belt, and when the PC says "If it's that small, come back when you have something larger..." she or he means quite literally, come back when you have something larger. Thanks for pointing this out though. It means I've gone and made the entire point way too subtle.
Ooh, and like your Imoen suggestion. Sola could benefit from more 'darkness' in the conversation, although you did say that was a rough draft, so. :)
Oh.... *giggles now* I thought that's what it might of meant, but I thought I was being a perv. ^_^ I'm working on the Imoen-Sola convo right now.
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*re working as a Sola/PC relationship comment for Imoen*
[!--EDIT|Sphira|Mar 27 2003, 09:18 PM--]
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I have to say I have a problem with the whole implying impotency thing. I know Bioware used it for a good reason, but most drow priestesses, to my knowledge, have a potion to knock that excuse out of the water. Not that's it's a big deal, it just always bothered me.
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Very true. But that's the excuse bioware gives ya so it's canonish. *thinks* Potion of situmlation? :D
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I have to say I have a problem with the whole implying impotency thing. I know Bioware used it for a good reason, but most drow priestesses, to my knowledge, have a potion to knock that excuse out of the water. Not that's it's a big deal, it just always bothered me.
First, welcome, SilverSage :)
Second.. I'm not quite sure what you mean by the implying impotency thing. Did I miss something here?
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I have to say I have a problem with the whole implying impotency thing. I know Bioware used it for a good reason, but most drow priestesses, to my knowledge, have a potion to knock that excuse out of the water. Not that's it's a big deal, it just always bothered me.
First, welcome, SilverSage :)
Second.. I'm not quite sure what you mean by the implying impotency thing. Did I miss something here?
I am...also confused. I thought that only the UnSeelie and Seelie Courts had potions that could turn any of the fey wild with uncontrollable passion. :blink:
[!--EDIT|Amazor'dra|Feb 15 2003, 10:47 PM--]
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The in-game reference to impotence is one of a male PC's ad-lib excuses for not having sex with Phaere. Having Sola refer to it, however, makes it sound as though it's a recognized ploy in drow society; perhaps a device whereby a male of importance in one house may decline the advances of an insignificant female of another without technically violating the basic "female superiority" tenet of the whole society. Female PCs don't get this dialogue, so either a male PC told Sola what happened in Phaere's bedroom (which would make an interesting banter) or Sola is referring to a drow custom that the PC duplicated by accident.
Either way, seems like Sphira owes another banter here to explain her reference in the first one. Which will it be? A little 'guy' talk or a digression down the folkways of the drow?
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Oh! No wonder it whooshed over my head, since I never play a male PC! Thank you, m'lord :)
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Either way, seems like Sphira owes another banter here to explain her reference in the first one. Which will it be? A little 'guy' talk or a digression down the folkways of the drow?
I just threw it in because I didn't know what to say. @_@
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Through a series of PM's with Hendryk, the following dialogue between the PC and Sola was arrived at. It's basically Sola wanting to know how Phaere reacted when the PC arrived with his cloak.
Forgive the coding, it's rough, but I wanted to show where it will differ with whether the PC is male or female. I'll fix it in the final. Thoughts, comments, suggestions, please? :)
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IF ~~ !StateCheck(Player1,STATE_SLEEPING)
~ THEN BEGIN solaph
SAY ~[CHARNAME], I apologize if my question…intrudes…but I am curious. When you returned my piwawfi cloak to Phaere, how did she react?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~In a word? Gleeful. Or maybe gloating. They're hard to tell apart.~ GOTO solaph1
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Well, you had challenged her publicly…happy and…relieved, I think.~ GOTO solaph2
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~She just muttered something about the folly of love and hung it up with her other trophies.~ GOTO solaph3
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Not much reaction at all, as I remember. She seemed far more concerned about the future than the past.~ GOTO solaph4
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph1
SAY ~The distinction is unimportant…to me.~
IF ~~ THEN GOTO solaph5
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph2
SAY ~I see. The…usual drow reaction in such cases.~
IF ~~ THEN GOTO solaph5
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph3
SAY ~So. She had not forgotten…but was ashamed.~
IF ~~ THEN GOTO solaph5
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph4
SAY ~Just another…obstacle…removed. And that was all.~
IF ~~ THEN GOTO solaph5
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph5
SAY ~Then, if you do not mind, how did she behave towards you at that time?~
IF ~Gender(Player1,Male)
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Why does that matter?~ GOTO solaph6
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I do mind. It's none of your business.~ GOTO solaph7
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~She just ordered me to the temple to meet her matron mother, why?~ GOTO solaph6
IF ~Gender(Player1,Female)
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~She just ordered me to the temple to meet her matron mother, why?~ GOTO GOTO solaph8
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph6
SAY ~Females of Phaere's station are accustomed to…expressing their feelings upon messengers. For my own conscience, I would know what those feelings might have been.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Well, she turned friendly…very friendly, if you catch my drift.~ GOTO solaph9
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~ Uh…I think…she'd have had me on the rack. If she'd had more time.~ GOTO solaph10
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I *really* don't appreciate this cross-examination!~ GOTO solaph11
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Ah, shut up!~ GOTO solaph7
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph7
SAY ~I believe that answer tells me all I wish to know. I will not trouble you a second time, [CHARNAME].~ // end romance?
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph8
SAY ~And no more? Very well. Thank you, [CHARNAME].~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph9
SAY ~I should be extremely cautious in estimating the degree of 'friendship' involved…but we are no longer under her thumb, so that hardly matters. I thank you, [CHARNAME]. I am saddened by what Phaere had become but also relieved; that I was not mistaken in my judgment of her.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph10
SAY ~Hmmm. Extremely disquieting…if you are certain of this. Your voice lacks its normal confident timbre, [CHARNAME].~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Hah! Caught me there! The news turned her red hot in fact. And me too, in due course, I must say.~ GOTO solaph12
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Well, actually she seemed…aroused by it all. Embarrassingly so, in fact.~ GOTO solaph13
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~You weren't there, right? That's my story and I'm sticking to it.~ GOTO solaph14
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Stuff it in a sack and drop in the river to drown, will you?~ GOTO solaph7
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph11
SAY ~I believe that answer tells me all I wish to know. I will not trouble you a second time, [CHARNAME].~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph12
SAY ~Then you are fortunate…extremely fortunate…to be alive. Your lack of even rudimentary training in the drow arts of love ought to have betrayed you…she must have been utterly distracted by her future plans. That is chill comfort but better than nothing.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph13
SAY ~And yet, obviously, you survived this perilous emergency.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I couldn't see where I had any choice, really.~ GOTO solaph15
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I managed to lie my way through it ok. The situation wasn't really…inviting, you know?~ GOTO solaph16
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph14
SAY ~Famously, it was a female who doth "protest too much". I shall not press you further, [CHARNAME].~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph15
SAY ~Had you realized how little choice you *did* have, fear might have unmanned you entirely. It is gratifying that you emerged…intact.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN solaph16
SAY ~Ha! Ever resourceful, [CHARNAME]. Still, you were most fortunate. Phaere must have been very distracted by her plans for the immediate future, else she would not have halted at any obstacle that you could have raised.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
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I really like it. I've always wondered what Solaufein would have thought of Phaere's reaction to his apparent death, and I think the characterization is just right. This is a fairly tricky subject and it's written well.
My suggestion/request would probably be better off for a seperate dialogue, but I'd really like to see more of his emotional reaction to everything the PC has told him. It seems to me there's a lot that could be done with that topic...
Anyway, well done! And please excuse me if this post seems a little incomprehensible; I haven't had my hot chocolate yet.
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Well well well,... i'm no expert but all this adds a new dimention to the sola character. i'm not someone who's into on the side reading when it comes to rpgs so this was interesting. 'specially the 'reaction' dialogue and the flirting explanation. very good work. hope to see it implied one day.
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Oh, that dialogue was excellent! Catches Sola's personality very well. Good job Hendryk!
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Morality
{Post nookie, resting dialogue}
BTW, the PC -will- have to hear this sooner or later. But you can distract our dear drow (and in the most plesant of ways, too!) for a few times before answering this query. :D This is a rough draft due to grammer.
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Morality
{Post nookie, resting dialogue}
Sola
My love?
PC
i. (You raise your head from his chest to look sleepily up at him.) Hmmmm?
ii. I'm awake Solaufein... (Your trace your finger tip slowly around his navel.) What's wrong? (Lazily the pad of your finger tip trails down his stomach into lower territory.)
iii. (You curl closer to him, too comfortable to wake up.) {End, Repeat Conversation later.}
Solaufein
A) I try not to think dark thoughts as much as I have been before we became lovers, but I'm not always successful.
PC
i) (You sit up to touch his check.) It troubles me sometimes, you know this. But I don't want you to hide your troubles away from me, all right?
ii) I love your dark as much as your light. You wouldn't be you with out it. Now, tell me what's wrong. I want to help.
iii) (You yawn and nod, curling closer to him.) There is nothing for you to worry about, I'm here. {go to e.}
Sola
B.) Ahhh... oh don't, not now darling, please... (He trembles under your touch.) I want you to listen.
PC
i) (Your hand slides down even further down Solaufein's taunt body, despite his protests. Moments later, both of you are too occupied to worry what he wanted to talk about. Perhaps he might bring it up at a later date...) {End, Repeat Conversation later.}
ii) You tempt me so much sometimes, too much at times. (Sighs) But it worries me if you're so ill at ease, what's wrong?
Sola
C) (Solaufein sighs and pulls you closer to him and holds you securely for the rest of the night. Whatever what troubling him, you'll find out later.) {Repeat at a later time?}
Sola
D) I worry about how long we have to together, it's not a huge fear but tonight... and for some time... I've been haunted by the idea of losing you to death.
{if PC elf}
d1) I know we are both elven and in appearance and in mentality you are an adult, but you are only a score and a few years old. We both know that's a child to those of elven kin...
i) Are you worried about robbing the cradle, love? {L}
ii) Are you talking about the chance of me becoming immortal, perhaps becoming a god? {Go F}
iii) Silly darkling, I don't plan on dying soon! {Go to G}
{if PC dwarf, gnome, half elf, or halfling}
D2) I know you will be around for sometime... and...
pc
i) Are you talking about the chance of me becoming immortal, perhaps becoming a god? {Go F}
ii) Are you suggesting I'm just as fragile as an elf, Sola? (Smirks) {Go to G}
{If PC Human or half-orc}
D3) I don't want to lose you when we we've just begun to know one another...
PC
i) Are you talking about the chance of me becoming immortal, perhaps becoming a god? {Go F}
ii) I know our live spans won't be quite the same, but I'm not going to die within a day, Solaufein. {Go to G}
Sola
E] But not forever, {CharName}. It's silly but... {Go to D}
Sola
F] No, no. If you've become a god, I can handle it better. That is what *you* want, that is what you desire. I will miss you but I know where you'll be and I can take comfort in that. {Go to G}
G] I'm afraid to lose you to death... I know I might go before you... I hope I go before you-
PC
i) Don't say such awful things! {Go to H}
Sola
H] Shhh... I know there's nothing in this world that can ease this fear. I just... I just wanted to tell you. I don't mean to burden you.
PC
i) Don't worry, it will all work out. {Go to J}
ii) I fear about that too. I think about it during waking hours... but that doesn't mean I have to live in fear. I know you're a good person, a wonderful person. I know if you go before me, you will be safe and we'll meet again. {Go to G}
Sola
J] I hope you're right my love... good night. {end conversation}
Sola
K] I thank you to listing to my worries... it helps me to talk to you about these impossible questions I come up with.
PC
i) It's my pleasure, sweet dreams. {End conversation}
ii) (You give him a tender kiss and a sleepy smile before going back to sleep.) {go to M}
Sola
L] (Solaufein laughs and holds you tightly for a moment then continues.) {Go to G}
Sola
M] (A few moments later, Solaufein joins you in sleep.) {End conversation}
[!--EDIT|Sphira|Feb 16 2003, 09:48 PM--]
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maybe you could add (for comic relief) : don't worry, even if i die i can always reload. :D
apart from the previous rant, nice very nice idea. wish i could think of such things... :unsure:
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Why thank you! ^_^ I'm glad someone liked it. Besides Tsuru who's just convicned that all my work is good for some reason. :rolleyes: I think it's just cuz she's super nice!
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Why thank you! ^_^ I'm glad someone liked it. Besides Tsuru who's just convicned that all my work is good for some reason. :rolleyes: I think it's just cuz she's super nice!
Awwww... shhhh! Don't tell people that! ;)
And it's because I *do* believe you have talent, Sphira. So there :P :D
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You can always construe my silence as approval Sphira, but definately you have a nack for this. More please :)
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Hee, okay Dash. Thank you. ^_^
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Besides Tsuru who's just convicned that all my work is good for some reason.
In as much as I've read your work, she's right. ;)
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Once again I have half an idea with holes in it, I don't know if this would be a banter or lovetalk or flirt or whatever, but I figure the relationship between Sola and Phaere has been covered, but wouldn't Sola be interested in Charname's past loves?
If charname is male this dialog could come fairly early and be Sola's way of subtly inquiring if charname has an interest in males.
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Trusu-sama was talking about a banter like that a while ago, actually. Before the whole flirt project really picked up. Pretty much focused on the love lives on both Sola and the PC. The PC would be able to be a pure virgin to a uhm.... 'experianced'.
Personally I think it would be near improbable for the PC to have a real relationship (meaning something a little more than a one night stand) unless they were in love with someone in Candlekeep or one of the NPCs from BGI. If that was the case, I'd have to say the Kagain option for just the reaction. [_[ That or Tiax.
[!--EDIT|Sphira|Feb 19 2003, 07:16 PM--]
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There was also Delainy or Durlyle, depending on what gender the character was.
There wasn't much of a relationship there, but there was definitely a chance for one. If this...whatever it is...gets off the ground, I'd like a chance to mention them.
[!--EDIT|Athena|Feb 19 2003, 07:43 PM--]
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I always thought Dreppin the stable hand from Candlekeep was giving me the eye, and he didn't seem to mind if I was playing a male NPC ;)
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Trusu-sama was talking about a banter like that a while ago, actually. Before the whole flirt project really picked up. Pretty much focused on the love lives on both Sola and the PC. The PC would be able to be a pure virgin to a uhm.... 'experianced'.
Kinda sorta, Sphira. He's talking about something in a different time frame than the one I'm currently working on, which is the PC's curiosity about Sola's prior love life, and is a post-nookie one. I'll get it done eventually *sigh*
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Don't give up on us now, Tsuru. ;)
What options do you intend to make available for the PC when sola asks about former loves ?
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Don't give up on us now, Tsuru. ;)
What options do you intend to make available for the PC when sola asks about former loves ?
I'm not about to, Niz, Missouri mule remember? ;)
Mmmm... that's not the one I'm working on, that's the one Dashael was talking about. So it's open for suggestions :)
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Missouri mule remember?
Ah, the things those aren't good for. ;)
*sneaks away before he can made into thinking of something for that*
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I'm probably being far too picky on myself about that dialogue.. one of the queens of re-writing, after all :)
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who/what is this missouri mule yall talk about? sorry niz gotta know :P
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who/what is this missouri mule yall talk about? sorry niz gotta know :P
*points to self* When I was growing up my mother always said I was stubborn as a Missouri mule :)
And I still am, and dang proud of it too! :lol:
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And I still am, and dang proud of it too!
Plenty of evidence on that to find around here. *ducks*
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*cough* Okay, okay, back to dialogue ideas :)
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I give up. I feel like I'm missing something here, I think I lost my way when I was writing it. This is a post-nookie dialogue, and the rest is pretty much self-explanatory.
And after all, I encourage everyone else to post :) I have *got* to get over this fear of putting my writing in public *sigh*
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IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper
SAY ~[CHARNAME], a moment of your time?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Solaufein, is this another philosophy question? I have something I'd like to ask you instead.~ GOTO soper1
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Not now, Solaufein.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper1
SAY ~Very well, my question can wait. What would you ask of me?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I was wondering.. about your other lovers.~ GOTO soper2
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Never mind. We don't have time for this right now.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper2
SAY ~Does that matter? I have not asked you about your past lovers, have I?~
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN ~I was just.. curious, Solaufein. I know about Phaere. But were there others?~ GOTO soper3
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN ~And I have to wonder why you have not. Doesn't it matter to you at all?~ GOTO soper4
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper3
SAY ~I.. have lived a long time, [CHARNAME]. Yes, there were others. Does it make a difference to you? Do you love me less now knowing I am no innocent?~
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN ~Of course not. I wasn't an innocent either. Did that matter to you?~ GOTO soper5
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN ~I wouldn't have expected you not to have. But did any of them .. did you love any others?~ GOTO soper6
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper4
SAY ~If you want me to know, you will tell me. Does the past matter so much?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Sometimes. Knowing how a past love might have gone wrong could help prevent it happening to us.~ GOTO soper7
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~You know very well there was no lover before you, Solaufein.~ GOTO soper8
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper5
SAY ~Of course not, ussta xukoth, you know that I love you. And you are with me now, and that is what matters.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Then indulge me, Solaufein. Did you love others before me besides Phaere?~ GOTO soper6
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Yes, I suppose that's true. Come kiss me now and we'll talk again later. Tonight. In our bed.~ GOTO soper9
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper6
SAY ~Love is not something that often happens in my former home. It is not encouraged or allowed to flourish.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~So it seems. You are a rare man, my love, to have overcome that.~ GOTO soper10
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Then how did you dare to love Phaere?~ GOTO soper11
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper7
SAY ~Perhaps. But is not every love unique, [CHARNAME]?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~This is becoming too philosophical. Kiss me quickly and we will continue this in bed tonight. Though I doubt there will be much talk.~ GOTO soper12
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Perhaps you are right. But we have a lifetime to discuss this. Let's go.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper8
SAY ~And I will never forget that you chose me, ussta xukoth. It meant much to me.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~And to me, my love. Forget I asked about the past. I want to concentrate on our future.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Well it had to happen sometime. And I wanted to choose who. Now stop trying to distract me and answer me.~ GOTO soper13
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper9
SAY ~Gladly, my love.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper10
SAY ~You flatter me, [CHARNAME]. But I believe when I opened my heart to Lady Silverhair, I learned to how to love.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Perhaps. We will have to discuss that some other time.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper11
SAY ~I.. do not know. We were lovers first. Then I found myself caring for her as I had for no other.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I see. It must have been difficult to hide from the Matron Mothers.~ GOTO soper16
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Mmmm. As long as that caring is for me alone now, I will be content with that.~ GOTO soper17
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper12
SAY ~As you wish, ussta xukoth. And may the night come quickly that we may seek privacy to... speak.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper13
SAY ~I was not trying to distract you. And yes, there were others, but none that I loved as I love you.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Even Phaere?~ GOTO soper14
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper14
SAY ~I loved her, [CHARNAME]. You knew that. ~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~(Say nothing but kiss Solaufein quickly)~ GOTO soper15
EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper15
SAY ~Please, ussta xukoth, the others are watching. Let us continue this in private later.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Such shyness. I will teach you not to be so one day. Very well, let's go.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~You're right. I can't really do what I'd like to do to you right now, anyway.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper16
SAY ~It required much effort. [CHARNAME], this is something I do not wish to dwell on. May we go?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I understand, my love. Let us go and we will discuss more pleasant things as we walk.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Very well. But I do wish to discuss this more another time, Solaufein. I am still curious.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper17
SAY ~You are my heart, [CHARNAME]. There is no other and will never be as far as I am concerned.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Ussta xukoth, as you say. (Caress his cheek briefly) Come, let's go.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~We shall see what the future holds, Solaufein. We should join the others now, we will speak more later.~ EXIT
END
[!--EDIT|Tsuru|Feb 20 2003, 08:12 PM--]
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I like it. :) It touches on what I imagine is a very sore spot in the relationship between Sola and my PC...the topic of who Sola loves more. I'm also glad that you gave the PC the option of having been a virgin or having been experienced. :)
I have a couple of suggestions:
Sola seems a bit defensive in several places. Can we add an option or two for the PC to bring this up?
Another option for the fourteenth block would probably be a good idea. Some people may not feel comfortable asking Sola if he loves the PC more then he ever did Phaere, or they may not feel comfortable asking him that way.
*hugs Tsuru* It's a great dialogue!
[!--EDIT|Athena|Feb 20 2003, 09:40 PM--]
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Thanks, sweetie :)
I honestly have run out of ideas on this one, so if anyone has any suggestions for dialogue itself, I'd be very happy :) I know more options are needed, for sure!
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Yaaaay! Finally got to read it! First good thing that's happened to me all day! :D And I liked it but I've got a few suggestions too. Well, more like comments.
The sorest spot for any of my PCs (even the too ultra-understanding doormat ones) on any relationship is being a 'replacement'. Something I would shove in 14. Of course, this might be odd... it all depends if the PC is evil or good or netural. Heck, even male or female makes a huge difference as well.
But I do like the options of being jealous or being understanding. Of course, I think there should be an option of saying
PC: Of course, you'll understand if I kill you if you sleep with my sister or my brother, right? [_[
Sola: .... Fully. :blink:
PC: Good! :D
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Thanks, Sphira :) I'm glad I was able to help your day!
14 does seem to be the one where I ran outta steam..ack. I'm just going to soak in comments and suggestions and see what happens here :)
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The sorest spot for any of my PCs (even the too ultra-understanding doormat ones) on any relationship is being a 'replacement'. Something I would shove in 14.
Now this could be very interesting. If you like the idea, Tsuru, then I second it.
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On the first page of this thread is a rough draft of a dialogue that could be used to start the flirts initially. Has anyone had any thoughts on this, or further ideas on expanding it where needed, please? :)
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First off *applause*! What you've done is excellent. As you, youself, seem aware, though, you're not finished yet. The most obvious omission is the lack of choices for a male PC. Judging by other posts around here, these would be coarser and more jocular, so they would clash with what you have. Perhaps an entire alternate dialogue for a male PC?
Second, a much more minor and personal view, I think Sola gets off the hook with too little explanation about his romance with Phaere. Female PCs I've known would certainly want to push harder on how "true love with a budding priestess of Lolth" might be possible and what the elements of the relationship were. If so pushed, Sola might reply:
Sola: I can say now that it was a compound of lust, hope and...an innocent expectation that *we* would somehow avoid the severities that drow society inflicts on all its members.
PC: 'Love is blind' is an understatement, then. It blinded you to who you were actually with and to the whole world you lived in.
Sola: Undoubtedly. And yet, the experience bestowed that rarest of gifts for a drow: the capacity to care for another.
PC: Then I'm grateful for it - even with all the pain it brought.
Of course, I actually expect you've already got all this covered much better in a still-hidden dialogue. Just wanted you to know I miss it and wish it were here.
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*blush* Thank you, Hendryk. And honestly, my only "hidden" dialogues are in my own Morgan at this point.
You're right about the male PC responses, which I should have thought of myself. Case of "do as I say, not as I do", I guess, urgh. I tend to mostly concentrate on getting Sola right when I'm writing for him and keeping gender neutral on PC response if at all possible
Very good dialogue suggestion from you as always :) And if anyone has ideas for male responses, I'd be more than happy to see them! An alternate dialogue is always a possibility, it could be implemented with a very simple gender check in the code when this dialogue pops up.
Yes, he probably should explain more about Phaere. As I said, I kind of lost steam and inspiration on this one, but I really do want to finish it at some point in time :)
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Random lines for somewhere or other if virginity and/or faithfulness is under discussion:
Solaufein: Ah, yes. I have heard surfacers refer to the 'gift of continence'. I would have no such thing, not even as a gift, and do not apologize for my attitude.
PC: Oh, so? Then I'm supposed to watch you skip off in every direction on the map and just say, 'Oh, well. Boys will be boys'?
Solaufein: Don't invent problems, CHARNAME. You are speaking now of keeping faith with a loved one. When the heart commands, the body will follow.
PC: Sounds pretty. Just be sure your heart is the organ you *are* listening to.
Solaufein: I believe that one of your charms for me is that I have never before encountered anyone so determinedly practical.
[!--EDIT|Hendryk|Feb 21 2003, 01:35 PM--]
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*finishes reading the dialogue*
Overall, it's very good. The only thing that I can think of that will make the dialogue better is maybe add some more options the PC can choose from. B)
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Overall, it's very good. The only thing that I can think of that will make the dialogue better is maybe add some more options the PC can choose from. B)
Thanks, sweetie :)
Yes, that's why I posted.. to try to get ideas to finish fleshing the thing out so I can finally send it to Wes!
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Suggestion on the whole 'replacement' thing I said yesterday? :D
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PC
Why won't you tell me about her? I need to know! -] A1
Please, I don't want to keep bringing this up but I just want to know about her. -]A2
Sola
A1] Need to know, {Charname}? (His tone is dark, almost angry, and it reminds you of how he spoke before in Ust Natha.) How dare you say that! -]A2
A2] There is nothing you need to know about her, it wasn't your affair! I cared for her, I loved her. I can't erase her memory.
PC
- I don't like you keeping secrets from me, Solaufein. -]B1
- I know that... I'm just afraid that... -]C2
Sola
B1] Do not speak that way to me. I will not tolerate being treated as I was in the Underdark.
-I... I apologize. I'm jealous... and afraid. -] C2
-If you're going to hide from that simple question with that retort Solaufein, this isn't going to work out.-] C1
Sola
C1] Yes, I would agree if you're jealous of a ghost and resort to accusing me to that are not there. {End relationship or...?}
C2] Afraid of what? (You hear the anger in his voice and you realize how serious this situation is for him.)
PC
-That I'm... (pause) I'm just a replacement for Phaere. -] D1
D1] (The anger so rarely seen in Solaufein dissipates into a look of confusion as he stares at you. A moment of silence passes as you avoid looking to his eyes.) -] D2
D2] (He suddenly cups your face in his hands, and looks at you tenderly.) You are nothing like her. -]D3
Sola
{If on the pragmatic path}
D3a] She... she was a dreamer... your wisdom and clarity has helped me so much during our time together... -]D4
{If remorseful}
D3b] She was never kind, she did not have your heart. I'm in awe of your compassion, how you care despite the odds against you. -]D4
Sola
D4] Yes... there are a few parallels between you and her, {Charname}. But they mean nothing, they are nothing to who you are and to who Phaere was and what she became. You are {Charname}, and I love you for that. -]D5
Sola
D5] And I love Phaere, I cannot lie to you on that. If Phaere came back to me now speaking words of repentance and love, I'd forgive her and wish her well. I would then turn away from her, to you and we would go on with our lives. -]D6
PC
- Solaufein... -->F1
Sola
E1] Don't speak...(He kisses your mouth tenderly, only to let go your lips to whisper softly, only a hair's width from your lips.) I have never thought of you as a replacement, my love.
PC
-I'm sorry I've doubted you. *you wrap your arms about him and he holds you.* -]F1
-That's... that doesn't *You smile in happiness* That doesn't get you off the hook.-]F1
Sola
F1] I promise you, we will talk about Phaere. -] F2
F2] Come, let us go.
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Fixed! :D
[!--EDIT|Sphira|Feb 21 2003, 09:25 PM--]
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*melts into a puddle of goo*
Very nice!
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I really, really like it. :) You're an excellent writer, Sphira.
And take your time on the flirt. I'm the one who spent three weeks banging her head against it. :D I can certainly understand if you need time to think about it.
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Thank you! *blushes* I know Sola's not supposed to get angry but uhm... number one rule is NEVER press buttons about people's ex-girlfriends/boyfriends.
I was thinking later the Sola and the PC discuss this if they 'end' the relationship but that feature will be saved for another NPC. :D So they get this out in the open now, rather than later.
Athena: Okay. But still... I am thinking about it. ^_^
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In re-reading, I noticed something...at block B1 it looks like the first PC response would go better with C2.
As for what you said...I think Sola is justified in getting angry here. I like the fact that he doesn't fly off the handle at every little thing, but that doesn't mean he should take whatever the PC has to throw at him with a pleasant smile. He still has teeth and claws. :D
Regarding the flirt: as I said, take your time. All I ask is that you don't forget about it. :)
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Mmm... I might do something with that if you don't mind, Sphira. Of course with me it might take a day or two as usual :)
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Yeah! ^_^ Just post the results of it!
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Yeah! ^_^ Just post the results of it!
Thanks, I will :)
*goes back to writing*
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Spira that "replacement" passage was great! I usually try and think of several things I'd do better before I comment, but I'm having trouble :)
I'm especially glad to see the "If Pragmatic" and "If Remorseful" sections. Anyway well done.
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Thank you. ^_^ I'm triplely glad Wes-sama made that system up now. It saved my sanity.
Ye'see, I had a huge hissyfit on how to do the 'replacement' thing, making sure it would be 'general' enough for everyone's character. I decided there would be good, evil, or netural responses. Notably it would be hard to do a response to for an evil PC.
(Example)
Sola: Gee... you're nasty to people... uhm... you don't do nice things... you kill for pleasure.... Damn. Why am I your lover again? :ph34r:
But I don't think the script can check for that and I personally find the reputation scale in the game not right. I believe a good person can do unpopular things so it's my little protest.
Then I remembered pragmatic and remorseful. And my life was made much easier. :P
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I think I'll be crediting you as co-author on this one, Sphira ;)
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Okay ,first re-write a la Tsuru and Sphira :)
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IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper
SAY ~(CHARNAME), a moment of your time?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Solaufein, is this another philosophy question? I have something I'd like to ask you instead.~ GOTO soper1
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Not now, Solaufein.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper1
SAY ~Very well, my question can wait. What would you ask of me?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I was wondering.. about your other lovers.~ GOTO soper2
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Never mind. We don't have time for this right now.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper2
SAY ~Does that matter? I have not asked you about your past lovers, have I?~
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN ~I was just.. curious, Solaufein. I know about Phaere. But were there others?~ GOTO soper3
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN ~And I have to wonder why you have not. Doesn't it matter to you at all?~ GOTO soper4
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper3
SAY ~I.. have lived a long time, (CHARNAME). Yes, there were others. Does it make a difference to you? Do you love me less now knowing I am no innocent?~
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN ~Of course not. I wasn't an innocent either. Did that matter to you?~ GOTO soper5
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN ~I wouldn't have expected you not to have. But did any of them .. did you love any others?~ GOTO soper6
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper4
SAY ~If you want me to know, you will tell me. Does the past matter so much?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Sometimes. Knowing how a past love might have gone wrong could help prevent it happening to us.~ GOTO soper7
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~You know very well there was no lover before you, Solaufein.~ GOTO soper8
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper5
SAY ~Of course not, ussta xukoth, you know that I love you. And you are with me now, and that is what matters.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Then indulge me, Solaufein. Did you love others before me besides Phaere?~ GOTO soper6
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Yes, I suppose that's true. Come kiss me now and we'll talk again later. Tonight. In our bed.~ GOTO soper9
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper6
SAY ~Love is not something that often happens in my former home. It is not encouraged or allowed to flourish.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~So it seems. You are a rare man, my love, to have overcome that.~ GOTO soper10
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Then how did you dare to love Phaere?~ GOTO soper11
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper7
SAY ~Perhaps. But is not every love unique, (CHARNAME)?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~This is becoming too philosophical. Kiss me quickly and we will continue this in bed tonight. Though I doubt there will be much talk.~ GOTO soper12
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Perhaps you are right. But we have a lifetime to discuss this. Let's go.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper8
SAY ~And I will never forget that you chose me, ussta xukoth. It meant much to me.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~And to me, my love. Forget I asked about the past. I want to concentrate on our future.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Well it had to happen sometime. And I wanted to choose who. Now stop trying to distract me and answer me.~ GOTO soper13
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper9
SAY ~Gladly, my love.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper10
SAY ~You flatter me, (CHARNAME). But I believe when I opened my heart to Lady Silverhair, I learned to how to love.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Perhaps. We will have to discuss that some other time.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper11
SAY ~I.. do not know. We were lovers first. Then I found myself caring for her as I had for no other.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I see. It must have been difficult to hide from the Matron Mothers.~ GOTO soper16
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Mmmm. As long as that caring is for me alone now, I will be content with that.~ GOTO soper17
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper12
SAY ~As you wish, ussta xukoth. And may the night come quickly that we may seek privacy to... speak.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper13
SAY ~I was not trying to distract you. And yes, there were others, but none that I loved as I love you.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Even Phaere?~ GOTO soper14
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper14
SAY ~I loved her, (CHARNAME). You knew that. ~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Solaufein, that I know. But I need to know more, why won't you tell me?~ GOTO soper18
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Please, I don't want to keep bringing this up but I just want to know about her.~ GOTO soper19
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~(Say nothing but kiss Solaufein quickly)~ GOTO soper15
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper15
SAY ~Please, ussta xukoth, the others are watching. Let us continue this in private later.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Such shyness. I will teach you not to be so one day. Very well, let's go.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~You're right. I can't really do what I'd like to do to you right now, anyway.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper16
SAY ~It required much effort. (CHARNAME), this is something I do not wish to dwell on. May we go?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I understand, my love. Let us go and we will discuss more pleasant things as we walk.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Very well. But I do wish to discuss this more another time, Solaufein. I am still curious.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper17
SAY ~You are my heart, (CHARNAME). There is no other and will never be as far as I am concerned.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Ussta xukoth, as you say. (Caress his cheek briefly) Come, let's go.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~We shall see what the future holds, Solaufein. We should join the others now, we will speak more later.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper18
SAY ~Need to know, (CHARNAME)? (His tone is dark, almost angry, and it reminds you of how he spoke before in Ust Natha.) How dare you say that!~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I don't like you keeping secrets from me, Solaufein.~ GOTO soper20
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I know that... I'm just afraid that... ~ GOTO soper21
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper19
SAY ~There is nothing you need to know about her, it wasn't your affair! I cared for her, I loved her. I can't erase her memory.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I don't like you keeping secrets from me, Solaufein.~ GOTO soper20
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I know that... I'm just afraid that... ~ GOTO soper21
END
IF ~~ THEN GOTO soper20
SAY ~Do not speak that way to me. I will not tolerate being treated as I was in the Underdark.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I... I apologize. I'm jealous... and afraid.~ GOTO soper21
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~If you're going to hide from that simple question with that retort Solaufein, this isn't going to work out.~ GOTO soper22
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper21
SAY ~Afraid of what? (You hear the anger in his voice and you realize how serious this situation is for him.)~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~That I'm... (pause) I'm just a replacement for Phaere.~ GOTO soper23 (pragmatic) or soper26 (compassionate)
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper22
SAY ~Yes, I would agree if you're jealous of a ghost and then resort to accusing me to something that is not there!
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~We *will* discuss this again, Solaufein, when both our tempers have cooled~~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~As much as it saddens me, I cannot stay with a man I cannot trust and who will not answer me.~ EXIT (end relationship)
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper23 (pragmatic)
SAY ~(The anger so rarely seen in Solaufein dissipates into a look of confusion as he stares at you. A moment of silence passes as you avoid looking to his eyes.)~
=
~(He suddenly cups your face in his hands, and looks at you tenderly.) You are nothing like her.~
=
~She... she was a dreamer... your wisdom and clarity has helped me so much during our time together...~
=
~Yes... there are a few parallels between you and her, {Charname}. But they mean nothing, they are nothing to who you are and to who Phaere was and what she became. You are {Charname}, and I love you for that.~
=
~And I love Phaere, I cannot lie to you on that. If Phaere came back to me now speaking words of repentance and love, I'd forgive her and wish her well. I would then turn away from her, to you and we would go on with our lives.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Solaufein... ~ GOTO soper24
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper24
SAY ~Don't speak...(He kisses your mouth tenderly, only to let go your lips to whisper softly, only a hair's width from your lips.) I have never thought of you as a replacement, my love.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I'm sorry I've doubted you. (you wrap your arms about him and he holds you.)~ GOTO soper25
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~That's... that doesn't *You smile in happiness* That doesn't get you off the hook.~ GOTO soper25
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper25
SAY ~I promise you, we will talk about Phaere. Come, let us go.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper26 (compassionate)
SAY ~She was never kind, she did not have your heart. I'm in awe of your compassion, how you care despite the odds against you.~
=
~(He suddenly cups your face in his hands, and looks at you tenderly.) You are nothing like her.~
=
~She... she was a dreamer... your wisdom and clarity has helped me so much during our time together...~
=
~Yes... there are a few parallels between you and her, {Charname}. But they mean nothing, they are nothing to who you are and to who Phaere was and what she became. You are {Charname}, and I love you for that.~
=
~And I love Phaere, I cannot lie to you on that. If Phaere came back to me now speaking words of repentance and love, I'd forgive her and wish her well. I would then turn away from her, to you and we would go on with our lives.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Solaufein... ~ GOTO soper24
END
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Thoughts, comments, suggestions? :)
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C'mon, I know this is a vocal bunch.. comments, thoughts, suggestions? :)
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A question, does Sola use any drow words in his previous conversations? It would seem a bit odd that he would start using them again.
*sends a certain wraith cat to haunt Tsuru's muse!*
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A question, does Sola use any drow words in his previous conversations? It would seem a bit odd that he would start using them again.
*sends a certain wraith cat to haunt Tsuru's muse!*
He uses the one at the Throne. And I did ask Wes about it, he said yes to drow words if we feel it fits in the dialouge/flirt/interjection.
Eeeep! *dives back under the table, putting out the "that cat" repellent*
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*wanders into fray and starts petting cat*
I think the use of drow words is perfectly appropriate here. :)
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Then you might want to use drow words just occasionally then. Or at least start with just a few words before increasing the use of drow language. Using "ussta xukoth" several times in the early stages will come across as...off. Especially if Sola uses it only a few times at the Throne.
Too much might not be a good thing since Sola escaped from the Underdark with the PC, he'd be more willing to leave that part of his life behind than Viconia--who uses drow words frequently.
*sneaks some cat turnips under the table Tsuru and Athena are under*
B)
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Mostly in the later flirts, anyway. I've tried to use it for times that fit... hopefully. Like the first one I posted, the evil ear one. :) The PC sorta well... the PC is just well.... :rolleyes: teases so badly, he just doesn't have time to 'translate' to common.
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I just happen to be fond of "ussta xukoth", which translates to "my heart". I got tired of the other NPC's using "My love" and wanted something different for Sola :)
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I thought it was spelled xukuth, but I like it either way. :)
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*checks Drow Dictionary* That's the way I got it..
In any event, just because I prefer it doesn't mean you have to limit yourselves to that phrase. If you find something that you feel fits the dialogue and the situation, please put it in and we'll see how it flies :)
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Yep. Cuz there is no word for 'love' in the drow language. :D It's a sweet pet name.
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Of course, you're sure that it *is* a pet name rather than a literal. Someone like Phaere could well have had several rows of actual hearts in little jars displayed on her mantlepiece.
And, no, precedent notwithstanding, I'm not just being obnoxious. That, too, of course, but I also think it would make for a funny banter; Sola feeling at a loss for a 'romantic' drow phrase and using that, then later telling the PC about its literal as well as figurative meaning back home.
[!--EDIT|Hendryk|Feb 23 2003, 02:38 PM--]
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Of course, you're sure that it *is* a pet name rather than a literal. Someone like Phaere could well have had several rows of actual hearts in little jars displayed on her mantlepiece.
And, no, precedent notwithstanding, I'm not just being obnoxious. That, too, of course, but I also think it would make for a funny banter; Sola feeling at a loss for a 'romantic' drow phrase and using that, then later telling the PC about its literal as well as figurative meaning back home.
Yipes, I never even thought of that! That would be a funny banter though *giggle*
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That's a mood killer if I ever heard one. :D
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I've been lurking at the Souffle forum in particular alot lately, and have one question: Do you think he had any male love interests before he met the PC if he was male? Methinks yes.
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I've been lurking at the Souffle forum in particular alot lately, and have one question: Do you think he had any male love interests before he met the PC if he was male? Methinks yes.
Yeah, it's the best way to handle that. :D In one dialogue/interjection I wrote with Immy about him asking why the heck Imoen's sibling is acting like they are. If the PC's male, the subject delves bit about how male homosexuality might be treated in drow society. Imoen comments how well he knows that and he admits he's been with men before. If the PC is female, the homosexuality subject is never brought up because the conversation doesn't need it.
No matter what the gender of the PC is *I* think Sola still bisexual either way. I've just haven't gotten a flirt or dialogue or interjection that brings up that subject to the female PC. I think male PCs can figure it out (“Gee, he loved Phaere, he loves me, hrm... He swings both ways!”) unless if he has a wisdom and intelligence of 3, but we’ll just ignore that fact :D
Another reason why it isn't brought up because well... it hasn't been officially said if Solaufein's bisexual though there are a lot of hints about it.
*hopes she hasn't spoken out of turn or POed anyone off* :ph34r:
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Oki, that's true, makes a lot of sense to me, too. And I don't think the female PC would care much, anyway, so it works.
I'm guessing a gay drow would be tortured with tentacle rods or some horrible thing...
*remembers conversation about memory wiping and clutches ears*
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Another "while I'm thinking about it" note.
Once you're happy with your dialogue or interjection, of course you'll want to send it to Wes on your own. He's a nice man, he doesn't bite, really! :)
If you want to send it pre-coded, I'll gladly do it for you, or help you learn how to do the basic format, just let me know. Sending it this way does save Wes some work, and I'm sure he appreciates it :)
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Another draft of the dialogue I've been working on... this time not only the Sphira additions, but a new addition for a male PC arrived at with Hendryk with some smoothing of the part I wrote by Dashael :)
Actually there is at least one line Dashael wrote that I added.. oops!
Thoughts, comments, suggestions? Is the male part too much?
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IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper
SAY ~(CHARNAME), a moment of your time?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Solaufein, is this another philosophy question? I have something I'd like to ask you instead.~ GOTO soper1
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Not now, Solaufein.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper1
SAY ~Very well, my question can wait. What would you ask of me?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I was wondering.. about your other lovers.~ GOTO soper2
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Never mind. We don't have time for this right now.~ EXIT
IF ~Gender(Player1,Male)
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I've been thinking about Phaere...and you. You're too...competent.. for her to have your be-all and end-all.~ GOTO soper27
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper2
SAY ~Does that matter? I have not asked you about your past lovers, have I?~
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN ~I was just.. curious, Solaufein. I know about Phaere. But were there others?~ GOTO soper3
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN ~And I have to wonder why you have not. Doesn't it matter to you at all?~ GOTO soper4
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper3
SAY ~I.. have lived a long time, (CHARNAME). Yes, there were others. Does it make a difference to you? Do you love me less now knowing I am no innocent?~
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN ~Of course not. I wasn't an innocent either. Did that matter to you?~ GOTO soper5
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN ~I wouldn't have expected you not to have. But did any of them .. did you love any others?~ GOTO soper6
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper4
SAY ~If you want me to know, you will tell me. Does the past matter so much?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Sometimes. Knowing how a past love might have gone wrong could help prevent it happening to us.~ GOTO soper7
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~You know very well there was no lover before you, Solaufein.~ GOTO soper8
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper5
SAY ~Of course not, ussta xukoth, you know that I love you. And you are with me now, and that is what matters.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Then indulge me, Solaufein. Did you love others before me besides Phaere?~ GOTO soper6
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Yes, I suppose that's true. Come kiss me now and we'll talk again later. Tonight. In our bed.~ GOTO soper9
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper6
SAY ~Love is not something that often happens in my former home. It is not encouraged or allowed to flourish.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~So it seems. You are a rare man, my love, to have overcome that.~ GOTO soper10
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Then how did you dare to love Phaere?~ GOTO soper11
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper7
SAY ~Perhaps. But is not every love unique, (CHARNAME)?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~This is becoming too philosophical. Kiss me quickly and we will continue this in bed tonight. Though I doubt there will be much talk.~ GOTO soper12
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Perhaps you are right. But we have a lifetime to discuss this. Let's go.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper8
SAY ~And I will never forget that you chose me, ussta xukoth. It meant much to me.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~And to me, my love. Forget I asked about the past. I want to concentrate on our future.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Well it had to happen sometime. And I wanted to choose who. Now stop trying to distract me and answer me.~ GOTO soper13
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper9
SAY ~Gladly, my love.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper10
SAY ~You flatter me, (CHARNAME). But I believe when I opened my heart to Lady Silverhair, I learned to how to love.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Perhaps. We will have to discuss that some other time.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper11
SAY ~I.. do not know. We were lovers first. Then I found myself caring for her as I had for no other.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I see. It must have been difficult to hide from the Matron Mothers.~ GOTO soper16
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Mmmm. As long as that caring is for me alone now, I will be content with that.~ GOTO soper17
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper12
SAY ~As you wish, ussta xukoth. And may the night come quickly that we may seek privacy to... speak.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper13
SAY ~I was not trying to distract you. And yes, there were others, but none that I loved as I love you.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Even Phaere?~ GOTO soper14
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper14
SAY ~I loved her, (CHARNAME). You knew that. ~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Solaufein, that I know. But I need to know more, why won't you tell me?~ GOTO soper18
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Please, I don't want to keep bringing this up but I just want to know about her.~ GOTO soper19
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~(Say nothing but kiss Solaufein quickly)~ GOTO soper15
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper15
SAY ~Please, ussta xukoth, the others are watching. Let us continue this in private later.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Such shyness. I will teach you not to be so one day. Very well, let's go.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~You're right. I can't really do what I'd like to do to you right now, anyway.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper16
SAY ~It required much effort. (CHARNAME), this is something I do not wish to dwell on. May we go?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I understand, my love. Let us go and we will discuss more pleasant things as we walk.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Very well. But I do wish to discuss this more another time, Solaufein. I am still curious.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper17
SAY ~You are my heart, (CHARNAME). There is no other and will never be as far as I am concerned.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Ussta xukoth, as you say. (Caress his cheek briefly) Come, let's go.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~We shall see what the future holds, Solaufein. We should join the others now, we will speak more later.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper18
SAY ~Need to know, (CHARNAME)? (His tone is dark, almost angry, and it reminds you of how he spoke before in Ust Natha.) How dare you say that!~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I don't like you keeping secrets from me, Solaufein.~ GOTO soper20
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I know that... I'm just afraid that... ~ GOTO soper21
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper19
SAY ~There is nothing you need to know about her, it wasn't your affair! I cared for her, I loved her. I can't erase her memory.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I don't like you keeping secrets from me, Solaufein.~ GOTO soper20
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I know that... I'm just afraid that... ~ GOTO soper21
END
IF ~~ THEN GOTO soper20
SAY ~Do not speak that way to me. I will not tolerate being treated as I was in the Underdark.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I... I apologize. I'm jealous... and afraid.~ GOTO soper21
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~If you're going to hide from that simple question with that retort Solaufein, this isn't going to work out.~ GOTO soper22
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper21
SAY ~Afraid of what? (You hear the anger in his voice and you realize how serious this situation is for him.)~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~That I'm... (pause) I'm just a replacement for Phaere.~ GOTO soper23 (pragmatic) or soper26 (compassionate)
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper22
SAY ~Yes, I would agree if you're jealous of a ghost and then resort to accusing me to something that is not there!
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~We *will* discuss this again, Solaufein, when both our tempers have cooled~~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~As much as it saddens me, I cannot stay with a man I cannot trust and who will not answer me.~ EXIT (end relationship)
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper23 (pragmatic)
SAY ~(The anger so rarely seen in Solaufein dissipates into a look of confusion as he stares at you. A moment of silence passes as you avoid looking to his eyes.)~
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~(He suddenly cups your face in his hands, and looks at you tenderly.) You are nothing like her.~
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~She... she was a dreamer... your wisdom and clarity has helped me so much during our time together...~
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~Yes... there are a few parallels between you and her, {Charname}. But they mean nothing, they are nothing to who you are and to who Phaere was and what she became. You are {Charname}, and I love you for that.~
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~And I love Phaere, I cannot lie to you on that. If Phaere came back to me now speaking words of repentance and love, I'd forgive her and wish her well. I would then turn away from her, to you and we would go on with our lives.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Solaufein... ~ GOTO soper24
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper24
SAY ~Don't speak...(He kisses your mouth tenderly, only to let go your lips to whisper softly, only a hair's width from your lips.) I have never thought of you as a replacement, my love.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I'm sorry I've doubted you. (you wrap your arms about him and he holds you.)~ GOTO soper25
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~That's... that doesn't *You smile in happiness* That doesn't get you off the hook.~ GOTO soper25
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper25
SAY ~I promise you, we will talk about Phaere. Come, let us go.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper26 (compassionate)
SAY ~She was never kind, she did not have your heart. I'm in awe of your compassion, how you care despite the odds against you.~
=
~(He suddenly cups your face in his hands, and looks at you tenderly.) You are nothing like her.~
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~She... she was a dreamer... your wisdom and clarity has helped me so much during our time together...~
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~Yes... there are a few parallels between you and her, {Charname}. But they mean nothing, they are nothing to who you are and to who Phaere was and what she became. You are {Charname}, and I love you for that.~
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~And I love Phaere, I cannot lie to you on that. If Phaere came back to me now speaking words of repentance and love, I'd forgive her and wish her well. I would then turn away from her, to you and we would go on with our lives.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Solaufein... ~ GOTO soper24
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper27
SAY ~A drow female... expects, as you say, to be the be all and end all. A male who thinks otherwise could end up as a sacrifice to Lloth. Or worse.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I did not ask you what her expectations were, Solaufein, but why you felt what did for her. Were there not others?~ GOTO soper28
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~And you did as she asked only because you feared what would happen, or were there other reasons?~ GOTO soper29
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper28
SAY ~It is the natural order of drow society that there be others...if one survives. But no others of the heart.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Only Phaere had your heart then. And does she still?~ GOTO soper30
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~And were those others like.. us? Or was I the first you .. loved in this way?~ GOTO soper31
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper29
SAY ~Uniquely, for drow, 'twas I who first did the 'asking'. At that time I don't think Phaere could reconcile what was expected of females with what she felt for me - personally. Later, as you saw, that changed.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~But only with the aid of the tentacle rods, you told me. Would it have lasted still if that had not happened.. if you had not been found out?~ GOTO soper32
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~So you do prefer the company of females, do you?~ GOTO soper33
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper30
SAY ~No. Even the grieving has run its course...as *you* at least might have inferred..~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Yes, I gathered that from your .. approach to me. Come, the others are waiting, we will discuss this more later.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~And will your grieving run its course if I should.. fall, I wonder. Oh, never mind, we will discuss this another time.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper31
SAY ~(chuckles) It isn't called the Male Fighter Society without reason though our enemies had little to fear from all that fighting. But...like us...no. Nothing in my experience has been like us.~
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~Since you asked about my past with men, would I be remiss in returning the question?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I.. well, I have had experience, as you could tell. But nothing like you and I have shared.~ GOTO soper34
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I don't want to discuss that right now. Later. When we are alone.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~No.. but there is not much to tell. Candlekeep was more restrictive even than Ust Natha. Since then, there has been no time...until now.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper32
SAY ~*If* we had flown together...in time...but we were too love-blinded to see that exit.~
=
~ Slow torment and hideous death was the only probable result.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~And I would not have wanted you to fall to that, Solaufein. I much prefer you... here.~ GOTO EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Perhaps it is selfish, but I am glad you did not fly with her. Come, we will discuss this more another time.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper33
SAY ~I prefer the company of a responsive heart. In whatever breast it beats.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~You do have the soul of a poet. I wonder sometimes if you are truly a drow, or a changeling of sorts.~ GOTO soper35
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~As do I, Solaufein, as do I. Now we must go before the others grow impatient.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper34
SAY ~And we will yet share more. Come, the others await us.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper35
SAY ~I prefer...I hope...that I am an atavism. An example of what my people once were and might become again.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
[!--EDIT|Tsuru|Feb 25 2003, 02:39 PM--]
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Well here goes nothing…
I'm not to sure about it, I think I might need to get to 'know' dear Sola a bit better before I can speak with his voice.
I'm not even sure if this is a dialogue or a flirt or what!
[PC]
(Gaze at Solaufein)
[Sola]
(Felling his eyes on you Solaufein turns to look at you)
What is it {CharName}?
[PC]
1 You are beautiful Solaufein, do you know that? *go to 1a*
2 Just checking whether you're up to anything. *go to 2a*
3 It's nothing Solaufein. *go to 3*
[Sola]
1a (Solaufein smiles) I am but a shadow to your light my {lord/lady}.
2a Do you still mistrust me so much?
[PC]
i I'm sorry, forget I said anything *go to 3*
ii No it isn't that at all….*go to 4*
iii I just like to keep a close eye on my companions *go to 3*
[Sola]
3 (A look of confusion, mixed with something you can't quite identify crosses his face like a shadow)
Very well {CharName}, as you would have it.
[Sola]
4 Then what? I can assure you I am not 'up to' anything.
[PC]
(sigh elaborately) That's the problem, you never do seem to be 'up' to anything…
[Sola]
(Solaufein's eyes widen slightly as he catches the innuendo, but the expression of surprised is quickly replaced by one you rarely see.)
Perhaps you have simply not witnessed it as yet {CharName}.
[PC]
i Then maybe I should look a little closer? (You smile at him, mischief glowing in your eyes and he chuckles softly)
[Sola]
Perhaps….
ii Are you saying it is so small a thing I would be hard pressed to spot it?
[Sola]
(Solaufein smirks) Not at all. Let us just say that if you have noticed any change in me it is perhaps because one can quickly adapt to something oft experienced…
Hrmmm…got a bit lost in the formatting there I think, it's probably as clear as mud!
Needs some work I think, but I thought I'd let you see it.
:huh:
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Oh, I really like the new additions! :D Something for everyone!
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And I like your dialogue, too, Red! But it sounds a little more like a flirt than dialogue. :3
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That's what I thought! I had originally conceived it as a flirt but then I got confused (as I often do). I was worried that it didn't have enough random Sola responses to be considered a flirt.....
That'll teach me to think of things on the bus home!
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Certain people here can't think of a good dialog/flirt when they sit around for hours thinking about it so I'd say you're gifted to think of something like this on the bus home. ;)
Keep up the good writing. :)
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Welcome to the group, Red :) We're always happy when new people join us .. and join in the fun as well as the creativity!
And nice work :) Don't worry, around here you'll soon find inspiration enough to make it into a flirt. Chocolate and jacuzzi are in the Sooo.. .topic *grin*
[!--EDIT|Tsuru|Feb 25 2003, 01:25 PM--]
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Thoughts, comments, suggestions? Is the male part too much?
I'm weird, so if this comment comes out as weird. Well, there yah go. ;)
I don't know about anyone else, but when it comes to girl-girl and male-male relationships I get a vibe of how they are. (I apologize before hand if this offends anyone. :ph34r: ) ....and reading the male part I got that vibe, so in my mind it is written very well. It's also good because of that part the whole dialogue looks fleshed out a bit.
You may though want to add a choice where the male PC does not come across as so forword about the subject. Just an extra option that the PC is shy about bringing the subject up.
;)
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Thanks, Ama :)
Any more thoughts or suggestions, please? I'm honestly a little nervous about this one, despite the fact I think Hendryk came up with a gem of an idea here. I know we've talked about gender specific dialogue/flirt/banter and I'd really like some more input :)
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Only thing I could find as a problem (which really isn't) is that Sola's a bit more open to a male PC. But that's not the problem at all! :D Like I've said, he'd proably be more open to a man than to a woman. Also gives reasons why you should play different types of chars. So don't change it!
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Thanks, Sphira :)
It is kind of odd to me still to be writing from a male PC point of view, since I don't play one. Hendryk did the Sola parts for that bit *ducks and runs from Hendryk before he can catch her to make her write Sola next time* and I think he does a fine job with him :)
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Ah! *claps for Henny, then* :D
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Ah! *claps for Henny, then* :D
*pokes Sphira* Don't forget Dashael's contribution. It was his idea for Sola to ask about the PC's experience :) As well as making a few othe suggestions.
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Yes, we cannot forget Dashael now, right Tsuru?
*runs!*
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Methinks *some* people could better use their imaginations writing flirts/dialogues/interjections :P :lol:
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Methinks *some* people could better use their imaginations writing flirts/dialogues/interjections :P :lol:
I will, as soon as my muse descides to work in that direction. ;)
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Them damn tempermental muses!
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The latest addition to the Tsuru/Sphira/Hendryk/Dashael effort. The whole thing is on page 3, I didn't want to make a huge post :)
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper36
SAY ~If I may judge by the sudden slump in your posture, it is *not* 'all right' somehow.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Well...it's just that...there's so little to tell, it's embarrassing...~ GOTO soper37
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I've always been ashamed of what...happened..~ GOTO soper38
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I... really don't want to talk about this right now. Let's go.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper37
SAY ~I would have thought we were beyond being embarrassed by now, [CHARNAME]. Perhaps we should save this discusion for when we are private?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Yes, that would be best.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I just can't believe it's *me* being so foolish...~ GOTO soper39
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~It's...fear really. Fear that you'll think as badly of me as I do...~ GOTO soper40
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper38
SAY ~Then I shall wait until you prefer to speak. In the meanwhile, please consider that shame is only a particular type of fear. By now you surely have no temporal retribution to dread.~
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~As for spiritual consequences (shrugs) we all must fight that battle daily in any case, must we not?~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper39
SAY ~Ah, that is a product of your youth. With maturity, one grows accustomed to being foolish much of the time.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~(Give Solaufein a mock indignant look) Just because I have not had your experience does not mean I am so young. I am an elf too, after all.~ EXIT
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Just because I am not an elf, and of your aged status, does not mean I am not mature. But we can discuss this later. Come, let us go.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper40
SAY ~And yet you seem not to think badly of *me* for all you know of my years of violence, deceit and treachery in Ust Natha.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~But that's different! You're not...~ GOTO soper41
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~No more badly than you would think of me despite what I am, Solaufein. Let us go now, though, the others grow impatient with our dallying.~ EXIT
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN soper41
SAY ~~But I am the one who done such things! Ah, I forget how young you are in some ways. You have not yet learned to extend to yourself that charity with which you regard others.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
I think this one is about done. Any last minute comments, thoughts and suggestions welcome as always :)
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Is the latest part for the male addition to the chat?
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Is the latest part for the male addition to the chat?
It's added to the dialogue that's already in that one :)
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~Ah, that is a product of your youth. With maturity, one grows accustomed to being foolish much of the time.~
Sola comes across to me as a very 'free spirited' individual, this comment seems a bit too much like something an....old gent would say.
This is just me though. B)
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~Ah, that is a product of your youth. With maturity, one grows accustomed to being foolish much of the time.~
Sola comes across to me as a very 'free spirited' individual, this comment seems a bit too much like something an....old gent would say.
This is just me though. B)
Sola probably is rather older and more experienced in life that the PC. As for being free-spirited, guys who don't worry about making fools out of themselves any longer are as free as the type gets.
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If Sola were to say something as 'your youth', the thought comes to mind that he does not see himself as still young.
~Ah, that is a product of your youth. With maturity, one grows accustomed to being foolish much of the time.~
Changed to: Ah, this is a product of youth. As one increases in maturity, one grows accustomed to being foolish at times.
Hey, so I'm picking up a few things from Caedwyr. ;)
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If Sola were to say something as 'your youth', the thought comes to mind that he does not see himself as still young.
~Ah, that is a product of your youth. With maturity, one grows accustomed to being foolish much of the time.~
Changed to: Ah, this is a product of youth. As one increases in maturity, one grows accustomed to being foolish at times.
Hey, so I'm picking up a few things from Caedwyr. ;)
Ok, I've been pondering this one. Either way sounds fine to me. Hendryk, as you wrote that line, I'm leaving it up to you to leave it as is, or change it :)
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If Sola were to say something as 'your youth', the thought comes to mind that he does not see himself as still young.
~Ah, that is a product of your youth. With maturity, one grows accustomed to being foolish much of the time.~
Changed to: Ah, this is a product of youth. As one increases in maturity, one grows accustomed to being foolish at times.
Hey, so I'm picking up a few things from Caedwyr. ;)
Ok, I've been pondering this one. Either way sounds fine to me. Hendryk, as you wrote that line, I'm leaving it up to you to leave it as is, or change it :)
Well, Sola's probably not more than a couple hundred years old. Better change it to the young one just to be on the safe side.
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Well, Sola's probably not more than a couple hundred years old. Better change it to the young one just to be on the safe side.
Done :)
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Idea:
Every npc has a special little quirk that they relate to the other characters--including the PC. (Such as Haer'Dalis having the whole bird thing going, and Edwin calling everyone fools) They all have special ways of calling each other.
So why not Solaufein??
His special little quirk seems to be surface poetry, so why not the PC asking him what poems he could relate to the other npcs?
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Now that would require a poet.. anyone here up to that? :)
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Now that would require a poet.. anyone here up to that? :)
*bows*
I have some meager skills at poetry, but then I would also have to bug Wes--like I always do-- about possible ideas.
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Michel mentioned a poetry search engine a while back, I'll have to catch him and see if I can get the url for it again. It's where he found those lovely poems he posted in the other thread :)
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Oh, even better idea!
*goes to help catch a Michel*
:P
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why not try to fet some poems from real poets *feels Amazor'dra glare* hey no offence, honest...
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I've won a few awards from my poetry, so I'm not that bad. :P
Just lazy at the moment, ;) and I'm blaming that on Niz.
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you do that...*wispers* still got that scroll of yours...
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*starts digging for those dialogue ideas and comments/suggestions on the ones already posted*
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Pulling this one from Cursed over from the House Name poll :)
Posted on Mar 9 2003, 03:37 PM
"could we maybe have the PC ask Sola about the town, an explenation on its history, on how it was rediscovered or somting?"
It's a possibility, if someone wants to research where he's from, once we decide on a name. I don't know how reluctant he'd be to discuss his former life though. Thoughts?
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an other background question that could bring in a dialogue: there are no kids in the drow city. maybe impliing that it was rescently established.
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an other background question that could bring in a dialogue: there are no kids in the drow city. maybe impliing that it was rescently established.
The obvious answer is that Bioware just didn't put kids there, other than in the slave pens. The less obvious is that there are Drow children, we just don't see them in that area of the city. Sola does speak of children with the PC in one dialogue already.
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if you say so
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Just my thoughts, Cursed, I'm sure others will have their own ideas on the subject :)
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Well, I think the reason we don't see visable childern is for minor psychological reasons the designers didn't want to deal with. If you screw up in the drow city, you've got a horde of angry drow wanting to kill you among others in the city. There's just something wrong about having to fight kids, even if they're little pixels on my screen of an evil culture of a fantasy race. :unsure:
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*nods* Logical. But then they have children in the city streets in Athkatla and they sometimes get caught in area spells.
*pondering* I remember children with a horrific bite when they got turned hostile.. was it this or BGI or another game?
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but we can use their absence right? tsuru could you find the sola dialogue about kids you talked about?
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This one:
SAY #76491 /* ~[CHARNAME], do you think that adventurers with lives as dangerous as ours could ever settle down and have children?~ */
IF ~~ THEN REPLY #76492 /* ~Other adventurers might be able to ... but my destiny and Bhaal's blood prevent me from entertaining such thoughts.~ */ GOTO 136
IF ~~ THEN REPLY #76493 /* ~Of course, Solaufein. Anything is possible if you have the will to make it so.~ */ GOTO 137
IF ~~ THEN REPLY #76494 /* ~I'm not sure if I would be willing to risk bringing a child into a world so torn apart by war and evil.~ */ GOTO 138
END
Didn't want to put the whole thing in, that should be enough to spark the memory of it :)
The other is one where he compares children and golems.
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there's nothing about the children in Ust Natha.
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I didn't say there was, just that it was a conversation Sola had with the PC about children. :)
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could ust natha have been rediscovered or built for the war against the surface? the fact that their are no children shows that the city has been recently established or that civilians have been evaquated. now of course this has nothing to do with the relationship between sola and the pc but it could shine some light on the drow civilisation.
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Ust Natha has been there for a long long time. It's one of the oldest drow cities, if you talk to the people in the drow bar. They mention how when they were first kicked off the surface, they came through the tunnel the dragon guards, carrying grass and making their houses out of it and everything, and how the drow stayed in the city and fended off people for a long long long time until finally other cities were built (like the one you were 'supposed' to be coming from).
What's probably happening is that most 'children' are in education. How old are drow children when they are sent to the 'academy' to learn their profession? Pretty young, I think, especially because they are elves. And there isn't any academy on the map or anything, so I'm guessing most of the kids are stuck there. Isn't that children stay in their house, then go straight to the academy, pretty much never seeing anything else but that until after they are left out? I think I used to have a DnD book about the underdark. Somewhere. And then, of course, their are the Drizzt books you can look at for more lovelry information. -_-
Err, yeah. I'm going to just fade out of existance now. I just want to say good luck. =) Sola's cool. =)
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Aww... don't go back to hiding, Mikka, stay de-lurked and join us. We can always use more input! :)
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Interesting theory about the academy. Historically (and I am talking the middle ages/renaissance mainly) The children of a noble house, would often times go to other noble houses to learn to be a squire, or lady-in-waiting (depending on gender). Others, particularly male children, were sent to monastaries to be educated.
Although Spira's reason makes sense too.
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Yes, fostering. I'm not altogether sure the Drow did that. From what I remember of the first Drizzit book, he was in the care of his older sister till it was time for him to go to the Academy. I'm not sure if that was normal procedure or what, though it might have been.
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The most interesting thing about this shift is that cursed seems to be circling around some idea that would require Sola hailing form somewhere other than Ust Natha - just because it was the first drow settlement in the UD is no reason it can't have been ruined and rebuilt in the meanwhile. So what's up, cursed?
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well someone said that ust natha was accually a lost city. well it could have been rediscovered and restored to act as a sign in a crusade towards the surface. now if this were true, only the elite and most fannatic would be accually allowed in the city. and if so, it would give an other insight on ardulances (sp) motivations to correct phaere. having one feeble among her ranks would tarnish her reputation among the others.
also if sola were to be born in such a city he would be himeself as fannatic as the others by education.
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you would agree that sola could not have been brought up in a city too close to a surface entry: too many incursion would meen the city is a warrior city, a first line of defence. any weekness will be strongly punished. i doudt that in such a strict environment, solas love for surface poetry and undrow like behavior would have gone unnoticed for so long, unless he was very good at hiding who he was at an early stage. plus, with all the propaganda against the surfacer 'false gods', it seems unlikly for a young drow to become interested in the Lady SilverHair.
but he would need a lot of time on the surface to acquire the surface lore he has. meening lots of raids, implying a high rank among his house.
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Altogether an interesting thought. It would also account for the mind flayers and beholders having enclaves so close; they'd want to keep an eye on the drow crusade. It would also, perhaps, explain Adalon's relative "intolerance". Being watchdog over the most militant drow would be stressful. This would seem a rather odd backdrop to the lighthearted (for drow, at least) romance between Sola & Phaere, though.
Btw, what is Adalon doing there? It's implied she's been assigned to her post. By whom? What, exactly, is her job? Part symbol of the drow banishment/part police to enforce it, I guess. Anyone know?
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just an idea: the gods know about the significance the site could have to the drows (see above) and therfore they place a guardian: adalon. both to keep the drow away from ust natha and limite drow activity around the surface entry. it took one as powerfull and disrespectfull towards the gods as Irenicus to shater the balance.
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you would agree that sola could not have been brought up in a city too close to a surface entry: too many incursion would meen the city is a warrior city, a first line of defence. any weekness will be strongly punished. i doudt that in such a strict environment, solas love for surface poetry and undrow like behavior would have gone unnoticed for so long, unless he was very good at hiding who he was at an early stage. plus, with all the propaganda against the surfacer 'false gods', it seems unlikly for a young drow to become interested in the Lady SilverHair.
but he would need a lot of time on the surface to acquire the surface lore he has. meening lots of raids, implying a high rank among his house.
You could turn that notion around, too, though. It's the drow in Ust Natha who would have the most contact with surfacers, even if it's just fighting them, because they're the closest. So Ust Natha would be the most likely place for young Sola to gain some different perspective on the one-sided Lolth-centric world view from reading surfacer books, talking to new captives before they've learned to keep their mouths shut, etc. After all, it was only English colonists, soldiers and administrators who risked "going native" at the fringes of the Empire. The stay-at-home English never did any such thing.
As for Eilistraae's worshippers, they're mostly on the surface already, aren't they? If so, like other surfacers, which would be the UD drow they'd be most likely to meet?
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just an idea: the gods know about the significance the site could have to the drows (see above) and therfore they place a guardian: adalon. both to keep the drow away from ust natha and limite drow activity around the surface entry. it took one as powerfull and disrespectfull towards the gods as Irenicus to shater the balance.
Yep. But Adalon says she "is not the first." So I'd guess her presence, like her predecessors', was the result of an original edict. This would mean we'd need an FR drow loremaster for the history. Anyone want to chase Adam2112 this way?
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true. third opinion?
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Well, since I was asked so nicely, I'll add a few things. ;)
(All this assumes we're taking Salvatore's books as DND fact. The game seems to, so I'll just go along with that)
Personally, I would say that Sola would have HAD to be born in Ust Natha to get as high as he did in the rankings in normal time. When you went down there, Ust Natha was pretty much in a state of chaos, at least that was the impression I got. Usually, someone from another city would be barely cared for- I think it's mentioned once or twice that you would be flayed/tortured/used for amusement if you hadn't came when you had. Phare threatens you with that, I think (and she remindes me weirdly of Mae'Var when she does so). But anyway, if Sola had came from another city, I doubt he would have been adopted by a house or grown to have so much power- or even be considered by Phare for bedding, probably. Yes, drow females can sleep with anyone they want to of lower rank, but it's mentioned in the Drizzt books about how one has to be careful with who they lay with because of ranking and prestiage.
But anyway.
Okay, so we can look at it this way. The drow elves immediately built Ust Natha after they came down to the Underdark (which seems unrealistic to me, but I suppose I should believe what the game says ^^)- which was right after the crown wars, in -10000 DR. I'm not sure how long after the time of troubles (1358) BG is, but it's been around 11360 years since the city was built. Making it one of the oldest cities if not the oldest one, I guess. Surprisingly, though, it's not run very strictly- at least not compared to Menzoberranzan. This does lead me to believe that there is a lot going on there besides the obvious drow internal strife- and being as they're surrounded by their enemies- kuo-to, beholders, mind flayers, a silver dragon, the underground dwarves and gnomes who's real names I can not spell, and surface elves!- it makes sense. Sola probably was allowed a bit more allowence then he would get in most cities due to being such an increadable fighter/mage. IIRC, it's unusual for a drow to be able to have two classes like that (remember the arguement about whether Drizzt should be a fighter or a mage in his first book?). If we go by the academy theory, each of the three drow domains- magic, clericry, and fighting- are pretty much seperated. Your in one, not the other. Some talks about how Sola was able to get around that would be fun, I guess.
(On another random note- Sola will have probably never have really met a male cleric, or a female pure mage. Some talks with Anomen and Tashia or the PC if they meet those requirements might be an idea).
Phew. Okay, now back to lurkdome.
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IIRC, it's unusual for a drow to be able to have two classes like that (remember the arguement about whether Drizzt should be a fighter or a mage in his first book?). If we go by the academy theory, each of the three drow domains- magic, clericry, and fighting- are pretty much seperated. Your in one, not the other.
If I remember correctly, don't males spend time in both schools at some point?
Some talks about how Sola was able to get around that would be fun, I guess. (On another random note- Sola will have probably never have really met a male cleric, or a female pure mage. Some talks with Anomen and Tashia or the PC if they meet those requirements might be an idea).
*hands Mikka pen and paper* :) Seriously, anyone feel any muse stirrings on that one? It could be good.
Phew. Okay, now back to lurkdome.
Nope, you delurked, we have you now ;) Feel free to join us in Sooo.. for chocolates and jacuzzis and fireplaces and so on!
[!--EDIT|Tsuru|Mar 12 2003, 06:26 PM--]
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*hands Tsuru a rope to capture the lurker* Mayhap Solaufein decided to keep the magic part a secert to the females and most of the males? One of the new dialouges with the drow mage in the surface elven city -- (WHY, OH, WHY CAN'T THESE PLACES HAVE NORMAL NAMES!? :wacko:)[/i] -- suggests that he was Sola's teacher so a few people would know but not a large part. After all, he never uses magic as canon Sola. Magic wasn't his first choice but perhaps to defend himself he learned magic or the very simplistic reason of wanting to impress Phaere but never needed to use that skill afterall?
*mutters at her silly ideas*
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Thanks, sweetie *grin*
Stop that, your ideas are not silly. Matter of fact, that's a good one!
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Actually, all drow tend to learn a little of everything; they just specialize in something. Solaufein just ended up specializing in two things at once, I suppose. Perhaps his matron wanted to take advantage of his fighting and magical skills and had him well-trained in both areas.
Sphira: Your ideas are not silly. :)
Speaking of your ideas, how's it going?
[!--EDIT|Athena|Mar 12 2003, 07:41 PM--]
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It's been a little rough to work on it cuz I had company over (they just left today and my cusion 'stole' my old Simba stuffie) and paper's due. But I've manged to get caught up just enough to work on the trust dailouge.
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Ah, OK. No rush. :)
Just curious if the writing block fairy had visited you. :)
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It looks like they spend ten years in the Academy. The first nine years for a fighter would be spent in the fighting school (called Melee-Magthere in the Drizzt books- I'm not sure if that's the name for all fighting academies, or just that one in that city), and then the last year, the first sixth months would be spent in the magic school (Sorcere) and the last sixth months in the school of Lloth (the only time males are allowed in the school- it's called in the books Arach-Tinilith). And then they have the big ceremony with the orgy. ^^;
Let me think. Ideas for dialogue. Of course more of his past, but my PC's a bit hurt that he doesn't want to know more of her past, too. Umm... they could talk of previous traveling companions. They could talk about Sola's family more (or did they talk about that in the mod?). He was adopted by a Great House (now I'm reminding myself of Morrowind), right? Not born in to it. So either her was a commoner who proved to be amazingly (which could have happened, although he probably wouldn't have made it to the academy then... mm...), or his house was slaughtered by another, but he survived the attack (that would mean that the house that slaughtered his was executed, and that some high up family adopted him). Hn. Interesting thoughts. Umm... other ideas. Somehow, I think Haer-Delis might find some other things interesting about Sola besides his poetry. The drow are pretty much driving themselves to distruction, at times- so many wars inside themselves, problems, and such. Haer-Delis, being a Doomguard, might be interested in Sola's views on that. I also keep picturing them having a conversation about death and what comes after it (and for some reason, I keep seeing Valygar joining in on this. Must be the broody thing). Umm... *wracks her brain* Hmm. I'm trying to think of things that aren't sterotypical (there's only so many 'Valygar:I hate magic', 'Aerie:My wings are gone.', 'Mazzy:Halfling paladins get gipped off.', and 'Jaheria:The balance is good' conversations you can make). What about Sola asking Cernd about the driders, and if they are part of the natural order or not, being Lloth created? Asking someone like Nalia what they would have done if they had been born drow? Questioning Aerie on her sterotype of him- the whole 'drow elves bad, winged elves good' thing she has going on?
Argh, I can't think of anything else.
Now, I really will get back to lurking. Really.
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Good ideas Mikka! Don't go!!
We haven't gotten too deep on withier{sp}or not he was born into a great house, he was adopted into a great house, or grew out of the ground. :D But I like the Valygar and Dalis suggestions. Besides, more Valygar chats means more Sola's shameless atempts to hit on him. B)
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I guess Mikka doesn't realize how determined we are to keep de-lurkers de-lurked yet :)
And yes, very good ideas!
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Good ideas Mikka! Don't go!!
Besides, more Valygar chats means more Sola's shameless atempts to hit on him. B)
Now THAT would be interesting
Very good ideas, Mikka...Maybe they will re-spark my muse.
*eats chocolate*
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Besides, more Valygar chats means more Sola's shameless atempts to hit on him. B)
Now THAT would be interesting
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Yep. Notably if they happen much later in the relationship with the PC. The PC could become all jealous or...
PC] Solaufein!
Sola] ... Yes, usth Xathula?
PC] What have I told you about flirting with others?
Valygar] Thank you sooo much PC! :D
Sola] I know, I know...
PC] Right, you have to share them.
Valygar] .... Oh god! Not you too! :blink:
... sorry. *looks guilty* Couldn't help it.
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*goes off in a giggle fit*
Naughty Sphira! :lol:
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Couldn't help it! ^_^ Besides, it's not quite as funny if Vally wasn't such brooding chap.
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*snickers*
What does usth Xathula mean?
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What does usth Xathula mean?
"My heart". It's the endearment I picked for the dialogue I wrote when the PC is choosing at the Throne :)
And tis getting some use in the Flirt Pack too.
(Ussta xukoth, btw *ducks from Sphira*)
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What does usth Xathula mean?
"My heart". It's the endearment I picked for the dialogue I wrote when the PC is choosing at the Throne :)
And tis getting some use in the Flirt Pack too.
Funny. In the lexicon I found, it means "agnostic kneecap." Maybe I should look around some more?
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*wonders if it's time to patent a Henny-seeking-thwapping missile*
*coughs* Where were we again? :)
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*covers her face in embrassment* -_- Me and my bad spelling.
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Don't worry, hon, I have to look it up and copy/paste it myself ;)
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*wonders if it's time to patent a Henny-seeking-thwapping missile*
*coughs* Where were we again? :)
Sure. Then all you'll need to do is find someone named "Henny" to use it on. Maybe Neh'taniel could help.
*Hendryk strolls off, innocently wondering when the coordinator is going to provide a clean copy of all these ideas so dialogues & flirts can be written consistently from them.*
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*fwaps Hendryk* You're so mean. :P
Perhaps we should get a website for the flirt cordinators?
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My dear Spiro, you can hardly expect me to rejoice in a nickname redolent of both a barnyard fowl and a dead, unfunny comedian, can you?
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"My heart". It's the endearment I picked for the dialogue I wrote when the PC is choosing at the Throne :)
And tis getting some use in the Flirt Pack too.
(Ussta xukoth, btw *ducks from Sphira*)
Ah, I see; I thought it had to be something along the 'my heart' lines but I wasn't sure if that was simply another form of saying it or a different endearment altogether.
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I thought it was cute. *sniffs* But you do have your point. But it's not quite as bad as the nickname of a shamed VP under Nixon's stay in office. ;) Tho I can't remember if Spiro Agnew was impeached or not... :unsure:
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But it's not quite as bad as the nickname of a shamed VP under Nixon's stay in office. ;) Tho I can't remember if Spiro Agnew was impeached or not... :unsure:
Quite so. I believe the regular courts handled his case; something to do with soliciting kickbacks from would-be state contractors while he was governor of Maryland.
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I thought it was some sort of tax fraud. Oh well least I reconized the name! :)
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*Hendryk strolls off, innocently wondering when the coordinator is going to provide a clean copy of all these ideas so dialogues & flirts can be written consistently from them.*
Mister Hendryk, you are *not* going to get away with "innocence" when the rest of us can't :P
Gah, I guess I have my weekend work cut out for me *wanders off to plot a new topic with "clean copy" of the ideas sprouting up all over the place*
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Yep. Notably if they happen much later in the relationship with the PC. The PC could become all jealous or...
PC> Solaufein!
Sola> ... Yes, usth Xathula?
PC> What have I told you about flirting with others?
Valygar> Thank you sooo much PC! :D
Sola> I know, I know...
PC> Right, you have to share them.
Valygar> .... Oh god! Not you too! :blink:
... sorry. *looks guilty* Couldn't help it.
*laughs so hard that she almost spills water all over her keyboard*
A threesome? That would be even more interesting...the experience that would change Valygar.... ;)
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*laughs so hard that she almost spills water all over her keyboard*
A threesome? That would be even more interesting...the experience that would change Valygar.... ;)
*giggles* As much as Sola wouldn't 'mind it', I think poor Valygar would be hiding behind Mazzy at ANY suggestion like that! Besides, we have to keep this flirt pack PG. :lol:
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*giggles* As much as Sola wouldn't 'mind it', I think poor Valygar would be hiding behind Mazzy at ANY suggestion like that! Besides, we have to keep this flirt pack PG. :lol:
*nods vigorously* Must maintain that rating! :)
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Hmph. Way you lot carry on, PG must stand for Plenty of Guys.
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Hmph. Way you lot carry on, PG must stand for Plenty of Guys.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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I'm being corrupted over here...
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*chuckles* I only made the comment because I find Valygar getting hit on by Solaufein is a hoot. :D I like Val's deadpan reactions.
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I'm being corrupted over here...
too late for me
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Don't let her fool you ;)
*gets out the topic steerer*
:lol:
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Don't let her fool you ;)
too late for me :D
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Well, of course it's too late for you.
I'm your favorite faerie, after all. :D
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Well, of course it's too late for you.
I'm your favorite faerie, after all. :D
i'll remember that! ;) *wishes wink smily didn't look like it got hit in the eye*
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Besides, more Valygar chats means more Sola's shameless atempts to hit on him. B)
when did you get this idea?
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i'll remember that! ;) *wishes wink smily didn't look like it got hit in the eye*
*grins at cursed*
Chocolate?
*catches Tsuru's Look*
Ah, yes. Standard disclaimer:
This conversation should move to Sooo before Tsuru sends thwap missiles off after us.
*flutters off*
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I twas bored. ^^
I'm sure I missed pleanty of stuff, but perhaps someone could take at least some of the information and use it. Or perhaps not. ;) Whatever. =)
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FLIRT IDEAS
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+++ Winking introduction (ONE DONE, EDITED- PC)
+++ Wanna hold my hand (TWO DONE)
+++ Flower giving (TWO DONE(?), EDITED(?))
+++ 'Not up to anything' (ONE TIME(?))
+++ Kisses on the forehead
+++ Can't write poetry, darn it (COMPLETE)
+++ How are you doing today
+++ Bathing together ^^ (PC)
+++ Putting an arm around Sola (COMPLETE, PC)
+++ Close quarters combat (FIGHTER, PC)
+++ Mage dueling (PC)
+++ Simple prolonged gaze (PC)
+++ Hug from behind (PC)
+++ Taking a hand and holding it to cheek (PC)
+++ Arial Servent Hammock (ONE TIME, CLERIC, PC)
+++ Regeneration on... a part of Sola ^^ (CLERIC, PC)
+++ Zone of sweet air (CLERIC)
+++ Backstabbing (MALE, THIEF, PC)
+++ Hiding in shadows (THIEF, COMPLETE, PC)
+++ Casting invisability on Sola and then groping at him blind man fashion (MAGE, PC)
+++ Casting mirror image on self (MAGE, PC)
+++ Giving Sola a mild aphrodisiac (DRUID/RANGER, COMPLETE, PC)
+++ Resting head on shoulder (TWO DONE, PC)
+++ Tickling (PC)
+++ Infrashion sight- PC hotter then usual?
+++ Nuzzle up and ask for more poetry (PC)
+++ Telling fortune (COMPLETE, PC)
+++ Light groping (PC)
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DIALOG IDEAS
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+++ Phare reaction (COMPLETE)
+++ Post-Nookie dialog (COMPLETE)
+++ Past loves (COMPLETE)
+++ True Love with Phaere
+++ Replacement or not (COMPLETE (?))
+++ Tons of 'whats your past like'- location, family, house, growing up, children in town, wars between enemies, free time, great house wars, and so on
+++ How he trained in both magic and fighting
+++ Getting drunk at the inn dialog
+++ Sola's having a nightmare, hold him
+++ Glad you joined me in the surface world
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BANTER IDEAS
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+++ Introduction to Flirting (IMOEN, HAER-DELIS (?), NALIA (?), JAHERIA (?))
+++ Someone commenting on the meaning of 'my heart'- literal (VICONIA (?), HIGH INTELLIGENCE CHARACTERS (SAREVOK? =P))
+++ Drow self-distruction (HAER-DELIS)
+++ Random Broody Death Conversation (HAER-DELIS, VALYGAR)
+++ Drider Naturality (CERND)
+++ If you were born Drow (NALIA)
+++ Sterotypes (AERIE)
+++ Marriage and what it means (JAHERIA)
+++ Why did you go with the geas (VICONIA
+++ Your romancing a drow?! (ALL, A FEW COMPLETED)
+++ Move further in to the woods next time (LOW TACT NPC'S- JAN? MAYBE VALYGAR, ABIT A BIT MORE... CAREFULLY? SAREVOK OR IMOEN?)
+++ 'Light' threesome joking (VALYGAR, PERHAPS MAZZY (Stay away from my squire! ^^))
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INTERJECTION IDEAS
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+++ Pretty pretty things (TASSA the SHADOW THIEF, COMPLETE)
+++ Drow elves are evil blah blah blah/Gaes (ELHAN the ANNOYING PREACHY ELF GUY, COMPLETE (?))
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*blinks and thinks someone is far too bored since she was going to do this later this weekend and post it in the proper places*
*also points out the Flirts progress report*
*also points out that the dialogue she, Sphira, Hendryk and Dashael are working on is far from completed to her satisfaction*
*also points out that Mikka needs to register* :)
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when i see all this, do you honestly think one can go throught all those dialogues, just through ToB?
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Heheheheh. =) When boredom strikes, I'll do anything to get out of it. I have been working on an NPC mod of my own (although I need to access the TB tutorial section -_- - all I can do now is dialog, hmph)... but other then that, I have pretty much a 'free' week and nothing to do in it. ^^
Dialogue... hmm. How did they get regular dogs down in the underdark (there was a dog running around down there on one of the strange circle platforms, I swear!)? Why did Sola take such an interest in poetry instead of... um, singing? Plays? Short stories? Fables? Uhh... what kind of life does Sola think he would have had if he had been born a surface elf? If he couldn't have been a fighter or a mage, what other 'surfacer' path would he have liked to travel (bard!)? Does he think that the drow can ever really become 'elfish', persay? Uh... I don't know. Ooo, the sea! Sola will have probably never seen really clean water, if I know my Underdark lore. That's more of a SOA thing, but taking him to the docks or Umer Hills or whatever might cause some introspection.
Err... just random thoughts.
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poetry and song are quite the same. i guess poetry is easyer to hide and practice in secret, but your right mikka it could be intersting to know. and for the rest, well, sola must have been on raids, the dog would be loot (its accually being feed to the spiders). please mikka you've already said more than most of us registered on this forum. don't embarass us any further. register
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*hands Mikka a pen and papers and steers her to a comfy couch on Sooo to write down some of those dialogues* :D
Yeah, I think a lot of us also are working on our own NPC's and/or helping with others. It tends to help the muse when you can't think on one to write for another :)
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Hmmm.... I'm not positive on this, but isn't there a few underground oceans? I remember a drow book mentioning that. :)
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Yeah, I think a lot of us also are working on our own NPC's and/or helping with others. It tends to help the muse when you can't think on one to write for another :)
then i should get to writing one!!
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Hmmm.... I'm not positive on this, but isn't there a few underground oceans? I remember a drow book mentioning that. :)
oops, sorry, missed you there, Nazca! Welcome! :)
There very well could be, or lakes at the least.
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Thankyou for the warm welcome. :lol:
The book it was mentioned in is called Tangled Webs, story about a female drow who tries to escape the teachings of Lloth so she can continue to learn wizardly magic. :)
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Thankyou for the warm welcome. :lol:
The book it was mentioned in is called Tangled Webs, story about a female drow who tries to escape the teachings of Lloth so she can continue to learn wizardly magic. :)
Feel free to join the lunacy in Sooo... and remember we don't let de-lurkers relurk easily ;)
*makes a note on her library list*
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Tsuru--the first book in the Liriel Baenre series (about the drow wizard) is actually Daughter of the Drow. It's followed by Tangled Webs, and then Windwalker, which should be released in a couple of months.
Welcome, Nazca. :)
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boy do i have a shopping list! *takes notes*
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I never read that. *pouts* But I think there are a lot of underground lakes, (at least on the first two Underdark levels), but most of them aren't clean water. Looking in the third edition information, 'The most precious resource is fresh water, since the Underdark has no rain and inhabitants must rely on whatever filters down from the surface' (hmm, maybe Sola should have a conversation about the beauty of rain washing away blood and sin while everyone else is whining that their soaked/blaming Cernd?).
Register, register... hmm, I probably should. ^^
Oh, just a note that I discovered while reading through dialog (that you probably knew, but it's worth mentioning)- Korgan also came from the Underdark. His mother was murdered during her birth of him, then his father 'five harvests' later by other dwarves (and then Korgan killed his three bothers himself -_-). But some talk about the Underdark with Korgan might make sense, although Korgan cares little for drow, and a male good drow probably even less. ;) But still, some talk about their people (Is Korgan a durergar?) might be nice.
....as for writing dialogs, I suppose I can help with that. I'm always shy about sharing my work, though, and I think I'm better at editing and fleshing things out then starting from scratch. Still, I'll do what I can. =)
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Yes, you should register, that way you can send and recieve private messages also :)
As for being shy... ask any of the crew here how long it took me to actually post something *I* wrote. :) I *still* keep my NPC to the crew helping me with him!
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mikka i presume?
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I joined. Yay me. ;)
Alright, then. Please tell me if I'm overstepping my bounds in anything I say, alright? I'm never sure if I talk too much or too little.
Anyway, one thing that strikes me is that often the Sola romance gives you very little response- two, and then the mean 'go away' response. I know that's because of the two paths the character can take, but I think that you can still only have two paths with more then two dialogs. 'Bodhi, I thought I hated you and your kind before. But now the spite in my heart burns like conflagration. You will not survive and neither will this puppet you have created from Solaufein's skin.', 'Damn you, vampire, give me back Solaufein before I stake you without you even being in the coffin!', 'I care not a wit for your talking- return Solaufein to me immediately!', and 'This is the last chance you have, Bodhi- tell me how to cure Solaufein or I'll make your kill more painful then you could ever imagine!' all really mean the same thing, but they add a bit more to the 'roleplaying' experience. Yes, you would have to add one, two, or three more blocks of dialog (although sometiems you don't- despite your choice, the outcomes are occasionally all the same), but it sort of adds more replay value, in a way. Err, yeah.
...while looking through the vampire dialog randomly, I'm just struck that maybe if Edwin is in your party he should start begging to know the process used for Sola. ^^ Somehow, I can see Edwin adjusting to lichdom nicely.
There's also just one thing that strikes me as a bit odd. The Sola romance seems to jump a bit in the early stages. When that stupid drow priestess (she also bugged my game. Stupid priestess.) appears and attacks you with that revenge spider, after he's safe, you have the option of kissing him, I think. That always struck me as really sudden- but maybe it's just me. However, before that, really, the only dialog you'll have had with Sola is him reading poetry to you. It's like, woosh! Very quick. Now, admitedly, my PC isn't the brightest (8int), but she does have 18 wisdom. She didn't detect anything about his advances at that point- Sola read poetry and talked philosophy with everyone else, too! But... argh, what am I saying?
Um, yes. So I registered. ^^
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*applauds* I'm happy now :)
This is just the kind of thing the dialogues thread is for.. discussing ideas for dialogues for Sola. We do have to remember to keep Sola as Sola, and of course, Wes has final say on anything we come up with :) These topics are to inspire, be inspired, workshop, etc.
As a reminder, do not be afraid to email your dialogues/interjections right to Wes, he really is a sweet guy :)
The flirts come to me till I get them all coded up and ready to run, and then they go to him for final inspection.
All that said.. thoughts on Mikka's ideas, folks? :)
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I agree; there are some places where it feels like there could/should be some more dialogue options.
One of my closest friends and perhaps the smartest person I know played the mod and observed that there was no option to tell Sola you didn't return his feelings when he declared his love. Then when the nookie dialogue came up, you had the opportunity to turn him down by saying you felt he'd misinterpreted your friendship. She felt there needed to be some tweaking done there.
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I'll agree on this regard, the one that stands out the most is where he gains the lunar abilities from Elistrasae (I know that spelt wrongly!), most of the options you are given actually seem to be a re-offering of what he has said to you already.
[!--EDIT|Seifer|Mar 14 2003, 03:29 AM--]
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I for one would want to have a 'wait a second' option here, too. :) But with the flirting option the delceration of love doesn't seem so out of the blue. But his deleraction of love does sound like a bit of an afterthought as well it's like...
(OOC Example!)
Sola] Wheeee! Lookie! I got a new magic spell (or sword) from the blessed Lady E who, in her shining glory and compassion, simply put, rocks! Oh, the wonders of the Ladysliver hair touches my soul and my life is dedicated to her as is my spirit and my mind and my body and-- Oh, you're not too bad yourself PC, I like you lots too. :D :D
PC] ... Gee... thanks. You're pretty nifty too? [_[
There's nothing wrong with Solaufein's devoution to Lady E. I find a problem in telling the PC he loves them.
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Besides, more Valygar chats means more Sola's shameless atempts to hit on him. B)
when did you get this idea?
:o You've never seen the Sola/Valygar banters?!
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nope.
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*gasp* Well... I'll ruin one for you. Or the good part at the least. :D Taken from Near Infinity.
=Some dialouge not related to the best part...=
Solaufein] I see. I am well aware of the corruption that can come with power. If it allows you to rest any easier, know that I am on guard.
Valygar] Thank you, Solaufein. It won't allow me to rest any easier, but I'm glad you're trying. I will keep my own watch. I trust no one else where magic is concerned.
Solaufein] Oh, and by the way -- I like the way you're keeping your hair. It quite becomes you.
Valygar] (sigh) Thank you, Solaufein.
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*gasp* Well... I'll ruin one for you. Or the good part at the least. :D Taken from Near Infinity.
=Some dialouge not related to the best part...=
Solaufein> I see. I am well aware of the corruption that can come with power. If it allows you to rest any easier, know that I am on guard.
Valygar> Thank you, Solaufein. It won't allow me to rest any easier, but I'm glad you're trying. I will keep my own watch. I trust no one else where magic is concerned.
Solaufein> Oh, and by the way -- I like the way you're keeping your hair. It quite becomes you.
Valygar> (sigh) Thank you, Solaufein.
I still think that should have been:
"Valygar] (blush) Thank you, Solaufein."
Because let's face it, Valy loves the attention :)
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:lol: Well, Viccy did point out the lack of women in Val's life.
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:lol: Well, Viccy did point out the lack of women in Val's life.
So she did...
Interesting thought...Sola/Valygar... Personally, I like Valygar, and honestly can't wait for the Valygar romance mod to come out.
Ok, enough of those thoughts...especially while at work. (I'm such a bad girl)
*hides in jacuzzi* Chocolate, anyone? I made chocolate mousse!
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Solaufein] I see. I am well aware of the corruption that can come with power. If it allows you to rest any easier, know that I am on guard.
Valygar] Thank you, Solaufein. It won't allow me to rest any easier, but I'm glad you're trying. I will keep my own watch. I trust no one else where magic is concerned.
Solaufein] Oh, and by the way -- I like the way you're keeping your hair. It quite becomes you.
Valygar] (sigh) Thank you, Solaufein.
*Tentatively pokes head in and de-lurks*
Umm, hi. Might I ask just one question? Where on earth did that last bit come from???
*Hangs around considering whether or not to re-lurk*
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It's taken from the end of the first (I believe) dailogue with Valygar. If not the first, then it's certainly the second. :D
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*Tentatively pokes head in and de-lurks*
Umm, hi. Might I ask just one question? Where on earth did that last bit come from???
*Hangs around considering whether or not to re-lurk*
Welcome, Kelyra! Don't re-lurk, register and join our happy little group! :D
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Yes mam! :D
Sphira: Oh dear. Remind me never to have Sola and Valygar in a group together. I'm currently clinging very determinedly to my last shreds of sanity. I think that'd push me over the edge.
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Yes mam! :D
Sphira: Oh dear. Remind me never to have Sola and Valygar in a group together. I'm currently clinging very determinedly to my last shreds of sanity. I think that'd push me over the edge.
*giggle* Oh dear, she's gonna fit right in around here :D
Join us in Sooo and go happily over the edge ;)
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Join us in Sooo and go happily over the edge ;)
I guess sanity is kind of overrated
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*nodnodnod* Specially around here :)
*coughs and goes back to dialogue ideas* :D
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Well, people, Sphira and I have collaborated again.
*looks around* Hey, that's strange. Everybody ran away when I came in.
Oh, well.
This chat is TOB only, female only. If anyone wants it gender-neutral, you'll have to talk to Sphira...she wrote the first part of the dialogue and decided it should be female-only. :)
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Sola: {CharName}, is something troubling you?
PC
- I have been thinking...there is something I have feared to tell you, but I feel I must.. -] A
- Did I ever tell you about my dreams in my youth? -] B
- I don't know how to go about asking this, but... -] C
Solaufein
A] What would make you afraid to tell me anything?
PC-When Irenicus had my soul...I felt very little besides anger and bloodlust. I could feel other things, but it was rare and...difficult.-] D
PC - When Irenicus had my soul, I felt nothing. I was dead on the inside.-] D
Solaufein
B] No, you've never told me your dreams as a child. Did they torment you more when you were a girl then they do now as woman?
- Tormented? No, no. They haunted me as a child... shadows and figments of what I was, what I could and very well might become. -] H
- Not really... they weren’t very violent dreams. Just very... lonely. -] I
-The dreams troubled me, but the awakening was the worst, I think. I often dreamed of blood and death...but the dreams were, at least, over quickly. When I awakened I had to deal with the knowledge that I was completely alone. -] M
Solaufein
C] I'm ready to listen to your thoughts with no judgments. Surely you know this?
- I know... have I ever told you about my dreams? -] B
- I don’t want you to think less of me... or hurt your feelings. -] A
Solaufein
D] (Solaufein says nothing, just nods for you to continue.)
-Then... we grew close. I felt... normal, being near you. And it scared me. When my soul returned, what would happen then? Would I still feel the same towards you as I did now? Was I depending on you so much to feel normal that I was making myself believe I loved you? -] E
Solaufein
E] I see...
-But when my soul returned, all my emotions, my joys, and my sorrows, they remained. I still felt 'normal' around you, being near you, touching you... Like nothing I could do or say would change it. I realized that what I felt for you was not something I invented; that I truly had learned to trust you. But... -]F
Solaufein
F] Ussta xukoth?
-Do you feel the same way about me?-]G
Solaufein
G] You know I love you, {CharName}.
-I know. (You reach over and kiss him on the cheek.) That's more then enough. -End.
-I know you *love* me. But have you learned to *trust* me, Solaufein? -] O
H] Haunted... sometimes that can be worst on one’s soul. To not know what lurks in the shadow of your dreams.
- I never thought of it that way, Solaufein. I suppose that would be the case if... I’d rather dream about shadows and ghosts than of blood. -] I
- Sometimes... sometimes I wish I was haunted again, not knowing what those shadows meant. I would do anything, trade anything, to rid my dreams of... *him*. -] J
I] How awful... have you ever had good dreams, restful ones after leaving Candlekeep?
- Only lately. (You smile wearily at him.) You are the first one I’ve shared these dreams to besides Imoen, and she’s family and going through the same thing. I trust you so much... ] F
J] He still hides in your dreams, my heart? Even after he’s dead and gone?
- I can’t forgive what he’s done to me Solaufein, not now, not ever. He stole my freedom from me. He harmed my friends... and become of him I nearly lost you to Bodhi. -] K
- I feel... so much pity for him, love. Despite the pain, despite his hatred for me and for his own kind, I think he hated himself more. -] L
K] It all worked out in the end, dearest. You trouble *me* when you brood like this. After all, you're stealing my trademark, {CharName}. (Solaufein smiles at you, holding your face.)
- (Quietly) Solaufein? ] G
L] Ahh... you have so too much of a heart, dearest... sometimes I fear it will break on me one day. (Solaufein holds you close to comfort you.)
- I trust you’ll take care of me, I trust you’ll be with me... always. (A long pause.) My love? -] F
] M] Why did you feel alone?
-Because no one knew what was happening to me. No one understood why I was having these dreams or why I was awakening with new abilities. I dreaded the dreams because of this. -]I
-You would feel alone, too, if you awakened and found yourself turning into the Slayer. Solaufein, does...does it ever worry you? Knowing that you're sleeping beside someone who could turn into the Slayer against their will and attack you? -] N
N] (He is quiet for a moment, then speaks very softly.) I have never slept through the night with a lover in such ease, {CharName}. (He gently squeezes your hand.)
- (You smile softly.) That means... the world to me. -end-
- I'm glad to hear that. -end-
O] {CharName}...
- I don't blame you if you don't, Solaufein. (You laugh weakly) After all, I'm not the one who's been tortured by women. I'm not the one sleeping next to a potential monster that could rip you in half... -] N
- I'm sorry all of this is happening, Solaufein. I'm sorry your introduction to surface life had to be this way. -] P
P] I wouldn't have it any other way, {CharName}
- (You smile.) I'm glad to hear you say that. -end-
- Thank you. I needed to hear that. -end-
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*applauds* I think they should trademark the name "Sphirathena or Athenaphira Creations" :)
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*points at Sphira*
She came up with most of it.
I just corrected her grammar and annoyed her.
...wait, that means I acted exactly like myself.
Well, anyway...
*applauds Sphira*
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Thank you. *blushes then raises her hand meekly* Solaufein wouldn't have a natural distrust around men. He'd have a harder time with a trust issue with a woman. Men didn't beat him with tentecal rods. So that's why it's female centeric.
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*nods* That certainly makes sense, and I agree with it.
I'm just pointing anyone with the 'Why female only?' question to you. :)
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*nods* That certainly makes sense, and I agree with it.
I'm just pointing anyone with the 'Why female only?' question to you. :)
No probelm. :) I might scrape the Immy dialouge in favor of using the homosexuality subject in drow society for something for Solaufein and a Male PC to chat about.
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I did like the Immy dialogues, but it would be cool to have a male PC-only chat--it would certainly balance things out.
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Question: Does anyone know where Wes is standing with the 'commitment' dialogue? I know he said he was thinking about one, but has he said anything about its current status?
If he's still open to having one and the dialogue hasn't already been written/isn't already being worked on, I'd like to take a shot at it.
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'Commitment' dialouge? :mellow: Uhm... PM me about this idea? :) Just curious.
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something about what kosand said in sooo.... made me wonder. do we have a religious dialogue with sola?
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something about what kosand said in sooo.... made me wonder. do we have a religious dialogue with sola?
As far as I can recall, only an original Wes one where he talks about Ellestrae. And perhaps the moonblade one in a way.
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could we make a list of different deities worshiped by NPCs? i'm sure sola would love to get some information from them.
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I'm thinking on writing a vuernable Solaufein related chat. I was thinking about having the PC notcing or commenting on scars Solaufein might have on his back from any beating he might have recived during his life? It's a little more emotional than I what I'm explaining now.
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*nod* Good one, Sphira. Perhaps shortly post-nookie? Early enough that the scars would be perhaps really bad memories (Remember the line where he was asked if he wanted more punishment?) and far enough along that the PC would have seen the scars.
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PRE-NOKIE BANTER!
(I thing I should post this here).
*Right after Sola learns PC is surfacer. Piwafi cloak event.*
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Sola: Veldrin... I... I had no idea... (A laughter mixed with gigantic melancholy and gigantic mirth is heard from Solaufein's lips).
PC
a) What?
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b ) Now what Solaufein?
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c) Your life is granted crazy drow cherish and begone!
Sola: I... Obviously I was wrong about you. So be it. I won't bother you again (Solaufein's suddenly freezing voice shows no signs of regret). [No romance in future. Though he will still offer to join party later.]
d) My comrade Solaufein, we don't have much time now. Phaere awaits.
Sola: (He smiles, amazed and embarassed.) You are right of course. [Original Sola farewell dialogue kicks in.]
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Sola: Veldrin, I always thought I would only care for mind not appearence. But in this case, I learn what your true race is and suddenly your veil is no more! You seemed always a most fair drow [gender] and Phaere would kill you in the end just because of jealousy...
PC: Wait, wait my interesting friend. Are you saying Phaere did not have any plans for me besides jealousy?
Sola: (Solaufein is still perplexed and for once this mighty warrior's speech falters.) No... Have you not heard her? It is the drow way [CHARNAME]. Despite your accomplishments and mostly because of that, Phaere would use and discard you sooner or later. But...
PC a) Say nothing and wait...
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b ) C'mon man quick with it! I cannot linger here indefinetly!
Sola: (Frustration overwhelmes Solaufein yet somehow he maintains his composure.) Sorry [CHARNAME]. Go in peace. [Original Sola farewell dialogue kicks in.]
PC c) Please continue dear Solaufein.
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If Anomen is in the party:
Bah! Why you always have to waste your time with trivial exchanges with every exotic individual, be them drunks, beggars or drow [CHARNAME]? Oh well! Have it your way. One day you will cause the death of us all in one of these familiarizing sessions!
If Viconia is in the party:
So Jalil! One drow is not enough for your antropological inquires and you experiment another one?
If Viconia is in the party and romances PC:
(Her face contorts in disgust.) So Jaluk, are you suddenly tempted for marginal lifestyles? If you will cheat me with a woman I will kill her. If you will cheat me with this... lowly male I will kill you instead!
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Sola: I am impressed by the beauty of your true self!
PC: Oh no... Are you implying that our drow avatars are dispelled? My hands are still coal black.
Sola: No Veldrin, don't panic. Your friends are still looking like a drow. I think only I can see your true self and your true body. An interesting thing to ponder upon. Which comes first? Mind or body? And why your illusion is dispelled only for my eyes? Unless...
PC: a) (Brief silence.) I let you brood on that for a while yet. Farewell comrade and I urge you not to linger too long. Handmaidens of Lolth are not known for their indulgence methinks.
Sola: Hahaha! [CHARNAME]! I see these dark caverns did not dull your sense of humour! [Original Sola farewell dialogue kicks in.]
b ) Err... I must be really going.
Sola: [Original Sola farewell dialogue kicks in.]
I hope u will pitty me and don't tear it apart that much! *snickers*
:P :rolleyes:
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very nice kozand. i think we hit a jakpot when you came in!
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Thank u cursed one! Let's see what group chicka Tsuru and mod muser Sphira will think?
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I like it, kozand. :) If I can make one suggestion, though, I would recommend you edit the post so the font isn't so big. If you want to leave it in bold, that's fine, but it's a little hard to read when it's formatted as you made it.
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Thank u cursed one! Let's see what group chicka Tsuru and mod muser Sphira will think?
*blinks and looks at her title.. wonders when she became group chicka*
It looks like a good start, Kozand :) I'm not awake enough to comment coherently at the moment, and knowing me I won't be till midnight.
Thank goodness for weekends! :D
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It is was a jest Tsuru. [EDIT: I apologise for my bad joke Tsuru. :(] Or just awaken! At any rate, Athena it is deliberate. It is easy to correct typos with bigger fonts. And I have this brain based slight visual impairement. :P :( :D :P
[!--EDIT|kozand|Mar 22 2003, 12:47 AM--]
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It is 11:40 am where I am. I just woke up.
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*nods*
I understand why you might want to make the font size bigger, kozand, but it's hard for some of us to read it because it's so large. If you could bring it down a few sizes, it would be much appreciated.
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Yes Tsuru. Yeah I understand u. U wake up late because u go to sleep late. Like me! Good morning dear!
Okay Athena, just for u. :)
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I hope it is okay now? Please don't force to make them smaller Athena, my eyes hurts when ever I post on boards. :( :P :)
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Thanks, kozand, that's much easier to read now. :)
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Kozand: I like but the two problems I'd have are the endearment terms because it's just after you find out the truth about Sola. Also the term of jaluk bugs me with Viconia's response if you're not in a romance. Jaluk means 'male', Jalil is the term that means female. :)
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That is the point. U are very perceptive let me explain. It is done deliberately.
1 Endearment: If u read carefully u will see that only endearing PC replies point out to a future possible romance. We just hint what might happen. Espicially if I will be given permission for writing non romance and romance compatible independent Sola relationship PS:T type plot revealing dialogues.* A back door for future plug-ins so to speak.
* Infact one of the harsh PC responses prevents romance but not Sola's "May I join?" offer in future and that could be elaborated.
One more thing: Sola and PC worked together for drow cause yes? So if there is romance or friendship afoot this should had begun while they were working together and it is only good timing to show them hints now (piwafi cloak event), otherwise Sola romance and his friendly attitude will seem a bit forced (out of a sudden? No previous interaction?). At any rate if we kill Sola it means we are not friends or lovers yes? And they are just nice words no special love confessions.
As for Viconia, u are right. It should be Jalil because Sola would probabily romance with females hahaha! Thanks I will correct it now.
[!--EDIT|kozand|Mar 22 2003, 03:28 AM--]
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I want to add 2 points to my previous post dear Sphira. In response to your questions:
PC does not feel any special feelings for Sola yet. She is her friend and she saved her life by not killing him yes? I think this would explain endearment/friendship or comradeship since I hint that too for cold hearted or true neutral or barbarian or like minded players. :P :lol:
Besides our Sola is always confused about his feelings so hints PC -unwillingly- that he might begin to love her. Also this is a funny element, also explaining drow avatar element. Yes Sola will guess they are the only surfacers in caverns or they should be them since they lurk while war is raging and party comes to find him when he goes to Underdark exit. But i think this element makes it more realistic.
As u can see there are 2 PC reactions for that. a) PC did not take the hint: ...i urge u not to linger.... OR takes the hint but she does not give a counter hint since she might have no such feelings yet since it is all of a sudden, too fast ect. U are lady Sphira u will understand this.
and B) PC might have taken the hint and she may get embarrased or afraid. Loving a drow? Brrr: Err... I really must be going. AND she may change her idea when Sola will propose her so to speak.
No definite paths have been set here, but since this mod is called Sola Romance there is no harm to give hints to PC at this level.
Actually we hint but let player to choose her own interpretation. Just we don't allow much loose ends and Sola seems more real. What say u?
[!--EDIT|kozand|Mar 22 2003, 03:48 AM--]
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Today I get ahead of myself and I finished my PS:T type Sola romance-non romance independent multi-matron-plot pawn Sola gains special ability DUHM-Tsuko Ken tone down dialogue!
PC: I see today you are more distanced then usual Solaufein. Though you are brooding as ever (You offer him a mug of ale instead of inviting him for a common chat with others. Solaufein seems to prefer one on one conversations).
Sola: (Drow warrior seems aged beyond immagination today. Behind his facial wrinkles you can sense he is in cold, calm pain but he takes the mug, salutes you by raising it high and sips the content slowly almost as if he is day dreaming).
PC: You don't feel confortable with party members yet drow?
Sola: You are most perceptive my friend. (Dark elf warrior's soft voice hints a grateful sarcasm.) But please adress me by voicing my name. Drow seems so generic.
PC: a) I call you whatever I like drow.
Sola: Then I ask you to desist and leave me alone [RACE]. [End.]**
b ) Of course Solaufein. Since you are not a surfacer every simple talk we begin or our casual behaviour don't help you to break your estranging bonds no?
Sola: You read me well Veldrin, or should I say [CHARNAME]? Just for being fair since I just wanted the same from you.
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c) Oh c'mon man, don't be so mushy always! At least try to fit in the enviroment a bit.
Sola: And said enviroment should be worth for fitting in. Sorry Veldrin I am not in the mood for barb trading. Perhaps we will speak later (Sola drinks more ale but his interest is lost to you). [End.]*
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Indeed my friend. Everything is different here. I could give you all the strange surface world details which keep me constantly on edge but you are tired hearing these from haughty Viconia all the time don't you?
PC: Hah! You are more than right. But this is not one of the usual "I miss home but only death awaits me there" moods methinks.
Sola: (Solaufein's lips release a faint laughter and you can almost tell he is teasing you.) Did we swap roles this bright noon day of Gods of Light? You are playing with words like me but this time I should cooperate. Really it would help things which would be discussed eventually.
PC a) Say nothing.
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b ) Leave. [End.]
c) Drink your bottle of wine and wait silently.
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d) I don't have time for this. [End.]**
e) Once one said, "Motivating you is harder than pulling teeth." But don't be upset now. Just kidding and it's not a surfacer joke. More likely a weakness of my character. It is a matter of survival Solaufein. A different kind of survival which you can find its roots in the bowels of Underdark.
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Sola: (Solaufein casually aproaches and fills his now empty cup with some wine by burrowing your bottle temporarily. A sad smile dominates his expression.) Aye [CHARNAME]. (*gulp!*) What is more dominant in Underdark than survival and what is more dominant even here or anywhere we could immagine?
PC: a) (Attempt for the last time). Maybe some feelings... You are thinking Phaere don't you?
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b ) Say nothing and drink your bevarege in silent. [End.]**
c) Leave. [End.]
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Sola: Am I transparent glass that you can read me easly? Yes Phaere or likely my survival despite her and her Matron Ardulace's lovely (!) charm.
(Solaufein gains 50 000 experience.)
Sola: Would you... Would you like to hear my tale? No don't answer. You shall hear it nontheless, at least some of it lest this burden will crush me under my own clay and pragmatical feet. (Solaufein takes a deep breath and resumes his talk while letting it out). I ask myself continously. Why am I allowed to live -even after Phaere and I get... seperated?****
PC: a) Simple. You were a valuable asset.
Sola: For what [CHARNAME]?
] a1) PC: For Fighter Male Society. You were head honcho.
Sola: If I am not mistaken you mean being commander and all. I cannot tell this answer satisfies but perhaps you are right. [End.]*
] a2) You were needed for Drow Army. A war with surface elves was afoot as we had witnessed together.
Sola: (Bitter laughter.) Hahaha! I don't think we have a real Drow Army in our city states! Each city is one big messy and bloody stage for interhouse political intrigue. Matron mothers command their own personal domestic armies. Besides I was not needed for surface attacks. I was just logistics organizer and a trainer.
(Solaufein gains 5000 experience.) [End.]*
] a3) You were needed to rescue Phaere.
Sola: (Solaufein laughs. A deep and somehow silent, dignified laughter which slips away as rolling drops of a distant waterfall and his voice echoes in your mind even while he speaks.) Veldrin, Veldrin, Matron Ardulace was anything but oracle! She couldn't even foresaw her own demise! Really, how she could have known her daughter would be captured and rescued by our hands?
]]a3) I dunno. You are right of course [End.]**
]]a3) Right. But you would still serve to rescue her.
Sola: So you would make me a special force enforcer? (Solaufein seems amused.) Your thinking is not flawed as it just had been but what happened to me after that? Not that I deny I owe you my life. I don't doubt you could kill me at Phaere's command as powerful warriors you be, but you just deprived me from my piwafi cloak instead. And I am grateful for that.
(Solaufein gains 2500 experience.)
]a4) Competing rival houses maybe? You were a multi-house-plot pawn.
Sola: This is more likely as me being rather spawn. (Solaufein does not care whether you understand his rather good spoken common's lingual intricacies or not.) My own house whored me to Phaere to obtain Despana favor. As me being head of Male Fighter Society, Matron Ardulace would be indepted to House [Sola?]. Tragicomic my friend. We had fallen in love Phaere and I. But I was unwilling at first.
]]a4) What happened Solaufein if may ask? Why you were an outcast working for a powerful house of Ust Natha?
Sola: You say [(x)s?] When Phaere has changed because of... tortures, I was not useful for my native house anymore. But I was still a skilled, powerful commander. Ardulace wanted to kill me but war was near, she did not want to lose a good soldier I guess. Now look what happens, shameless self promotion! I should better shut up.
(Solaufein gains 2500 experience.)
[End.]*
]]a4) But you allied yourself with a powerful house of Ust Natha. They protected you.
Sola: I told you remember [CHARNAME]? It is called drow way -more, much more complicated than that. I think Ardulace asked my house to dispose of me quitely at first. Indeed Despanas were already preparing for war. They hoped skirmish would make them even stronger. Than this Irenicus and Bodhi came and a surface attack suddenly became a real possibility to exploit. I could be killed then... By her command, by my own mother. But I survived until Ardulace changed her mind and began considering me as a valuable drow asset to be used against surface elves. Yes I lived because killing me would have meant submission to Despanas by my native house's part.
]]] a4) Whew! This is quite complicated Solaufein! I think we should take a break.
Sola: You are right my friend and I bore you. Come we should get going before evening sun casts real shadows on us and adding them to the ones which are already darkening my wounded soul.
(Solaufein gains 10 000 experience.)
[End.]**
]]] a4) This is quite amazing Solaufein but not the end of it I presume?
Sola: Not at all! My native house wanted to keep me alive for I was commander and would be a pain in the ass of Despanas. (Solaufein smiles mischeviously. You could not expected such humour from ever solemn drow.)
PC: But by letting you go they lost their position in Male Fighter Society as you being head honcho and all!
Sola: Head... honcho yes. Infact it was a partial compromise. To keep Ardulace happy and they were hoping to manipulate me against Despanas.
PC: How come?
Sola: Despanas wanted to eleminate me after war -to weaken both my new house and old house. Besides Ardulace was afraid of me or rather Phaere since she felt so much love for me once and was emotionally unstable after her... persuation. Nobody wanted her return to me. Well except me I think. Even my new house would not count on such narrow possibility. Not after their hope to infilitrate to House of Despana via me dwindled when Phaere has lost her what? You say humanity? Yes since drow are not humane she had lost one thing which made her special. Nontheless that means I would be forced to ally myself with as many houses as possible to counter balance Matron Ardulace's influence. So I could even act in favor of my native house!
]]]] a4) Most impressive comrade. I think I had enough of this for many days to come. Wow! I feel dizzy.
Sola: Thanks for indulging me [CHARNAME]. You are a good friend.
(Solaufein gains 10 000 experience).
[End.]**
]]]] a4) I am listening you for sometime and your words are hollow yet.
Sola: What do you mean?
PC: This is not about drow politics Solaufein. You have some unresolved matters with your past, especially with Phaere.
Sola: True enough but I... I don't want to talk about this anymore[CHARNAME]. I already told you what was disturbing me about her.
PC: (Grim prediction.) Solaufein if you won't confess this at least to yourself you won't find peace. Never.
[Charisma check: CHA ]14. Reputation check: REP ]12. Alignment check: Good or neutral. Failed!]
Sola: I... I don't know what you are implying but enough socializing for now. I wish to be left alone. Thank you for your concern.
[End.]**
[Charisma check: CHA ]14. Reputation check: REP ]12. Alignment check: Good or neutral. Succes!]
Sola: (Solaufein's handsome and smooth face suddenly contorts with anger. His fists are clenched now and his gaze is drowned in the impossibility of horizon.) I... I hate this! I hate Phaere for letting me down! I hate Phaere for letting down herself! I hate her for not being stronger! She allowed herself to succumb evil! I hate Ardulace too -for what she has done to her own daughter! Yes drow way! (Solaufein's lips are sealed shut while he is trying to show his disgust and control his anger. But for once he fails for throwing his mug well far and above the nearby bushes.)
]]]]] a4) Remain silent.
[End.]**
]]]]] a4) Leave.
[End.]**
]]]]] a4) Whoa! This is crazy stuff! And I don't want to get involved!
Sola: So you would leave me in my hour of need? After manipulating me to enjoy yourself!? Sorry friend (!) but I think I won't be so alone when I really travelling alone! (Solaufein packs his equipment and lives for good.)
]]]]] a4) Stop this foolishness immediately! This is not all of it and you know that! Wanna hit something? Smash! Wanna hit me to let go your anger? By all means continue! Not that I would sit idle here waiting you punch me (*arrogant laughter*)! But for gods' sake man spit it out or it will eat your soul forever!
[Charisma check: CHA ]15 Failed!]
Sola: So you would mock me in my hour of need? After manipulating me to enjoy yourself? Sorry friend (!) but I think I won't be so alone when I really travelling alone! (Solaufein packs his equipment and lives for good.)
[Charisma check: CHA ]15 Succes!]
Sola: I hate all of them! Because, because... Ardulace did not kill me to keep Phaere in line! She knew she would be extremely ambitious after being converted to evil permanently. She would kill me to prove her total devotion to Lolth! But then she would turn against her mother! But her capture and my continous presence distracted her by allowing Ardulace to live a while longer! Ardulace continued to torture Phaere even long after many viper headed flails of Handmaidens of Lolth ceased to rip her tender flesh!
Sola: (Solaufein suddenly collapses on the rock he was just sitting.) I... I don't remember myself being such a mess. If were not you but another I don't think I would be capable of releasing this outburst.
PC: What you gonna do about it? Aimless hatred is like mad dog. It will bite everybody and will charge everything in its path. Until it will be dealt appropriately. And there is only one way to deal with mad dogs.
Sola: (The dark elf is speaking to himself like he is in trance. You cannot help but thinking you set motion of his inner struggles and now they are mystically culminating before your very eyes -with unpredictable supernatural results, but sense of relief soothes your sense of agitated dread. You hope you did not create a monster out of this confused and introvert drow.)
Sola: You... as a Bhaalspawn understand hatred, death and murder better than me yes? This is why I cannot rage at you! This is what I should be wary of. Very well [CHARNAME]. I won't allow others be hurt like me and suffer like my dark elven brethren by selfish people! What... What would I become if I ever suffer like Phaere by hands of Loth's children? Did she not kill her own sisters before and after knowing me? I shall resort to the soul within. I pray Eilistraee so she can grant me the ability to chanelize my frustrated hatred for smiting my unholly enemies in the name of good!
Sola: (Solaufein suddenly rises again. He seems to fill with inner strength and a downcast white beam descends from sky to envelop troubled drow warrior. After being blinded for a moment, holy light fades and Solaufein seems larger, his muscles thicker and his cold drow rage could be seen behind his contorted mask called face, as well as his purple eyes burning like two metal cores.)
(Solaufein gains 100 000 experience).
(Solaufein gains innate ability: Drow Upon Holly Might).
Sola: You, you helped me to understand my essence better! Thank the gods I am honest and good enough to recieve my Silver Lady's sweet blessing. Though I would prefer innocence of a child than holly might I believe.
PC: You helped yourself. I did nothing but making it easier for you, for giving birth your own truths buried deep. And what you would be then? Sola boy instead of Uncle Sola? There is another lesson to take here Solaufein. Think wisely.
Sola: I will go do this but alone, for now. If you would excuse me... (You respect dak elf's solace. )
Solaufein's Drow Upon Holly Might ability is usable once per day and it is cast as by a 15th level cleric.
*Already chosen dialogue options will disappear from the list. But the dialogue can be restarted after 45 minutes of real time pass.
**The conversation cannot be restarted again.
Restarting dialogue:
PC: Hello Solaufein care for another roll?
[Timer expires.]
Sola: You mean brooding my inquisitive friend? I should warn you it won't be more pleasant than before.
Sola: **** marked opening dialogue kicks in.
[Not choosen dialogue options are displayed. Starting from ***** marked dialogue.] **type definite ending dialogues and *type temporarily ending dialogues will be always displayed unless the main dialogues triggering these options are not chosen already.
[If timer did not expire yet or negative global ** is in effect:]
I have nothing to say you [CHARNAME].
[If all dialogue options are choosen...]
I have nothing to say you for now my friend. (Only original lovetalk-banter speeder dialogue option will be offered).
PS: If both romance and PS:T type dialogues are present 2 options will appear: 1. I have nothing to say you for now my friend. If we choose this, Solaufein's next random banter and lovetalk will trigger within seconds. 2. If we choose PS:T conversations, those will appear but to accellerate Sola lovetalk and banter we should end these conversations first, click on Sola again and trigger said lovetalks.
***Tsuko-Ken's permanent stat boost should be eleminated by modifying .itm files.
PS: 2 All dialogues become available after Sola hits level 15th.
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[!--EDIT|kozand|Mar 23 2003, 08:22 PM--]
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I just updated above dialogue, if u checked before and still willing please read anew, some triggers are changed.
Feedbcak! I need desperately. we should invent names! one for sola's native house and one for sola's late house.
:lol:
[!--EDIT|kozand|Mar 24 2003, 02:15 AM--]
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i have but one comment: long. sorry
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*nods*
I like what you've got here, kozand...it's a very interesting idea. :)
I might be able to help you with your grammar, as well. Give me a little time to get some things done around my house today and then I'll help you out.
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But u don't read it carefully cursed one. This is the whole dialogue. But u can trigger only a small part of it for once in 45 minutes.
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Athena, Hendryk kindly helps me about that. Maybe u can help him. Thank u my dear.
[!--EDIT|kozand|Mar 24 2003, 02:04 AM--]
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i will respectfully withdraw my previous opinion
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All right. If you want any additional input, please let me know.
You might want to edit your post asking for someone to help you with your grammar, though. :)
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A typical dialogue session -an excerpt of my previously posted dialogue.
This would give u an idea about the actual length of each session: if u trigger it for the first time:
PC: I see today you are more distanced then usual Solaufein. Though you are brooding as ever (You offer him a mug of ale instead of inviting him for a common chat with others. Solaufein seems to prefer one on one conversations).
Sola: (Drow warrior seems aged beyond immagination today. Behind his facial wrinkles you can sense he is in cold, calm pain but he takes the mug, salutes you by raising it high and sips the content slowly almost as if he is day dreaming).
PC: You don't feel confortable with party members yet drow?
Sola: You are most perceptive my friend. (Dark elf warrior's soft voice hints a grateful sarcasm.) But please adress me by voicing my name. Drow seems so generic.
b ) Of course Solaufein. Since you are not a surfacer every simple talk we begin or our casual behaviour don't help you to break your estranging bonds no?
Sola: You read me well Veldrin, or should I say [CHARNAME]? Just for being fair since I just wanted the same from you.
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Indeed my friend. Everything is different here. I could give you all the strange surface world details which keep me constantly on edge but you are tired hearing these from haughty Viconia all the time don't you?
PC: Hah! You are more than right. But this is not one of the usual "I miss home but only death awaits me there" moods methinks.
Sola: (Solaufein's lips release a faint laughter and you can almost tell he is teasing you.) Did we swap roles this bright noon day of Gods of Light? You are playing with words like me but this time I should cooperate. Really it would help things which would be discussed eventually.
e) Once one said, "Motivating you is harder than pulling teeth." But don't be upset now. Just kidding and it's not a surfacer joke. More likely a weakness of my character. It is a matter of survival Solaufein. A different kind of survival which you can find its roots in the bowels of Underdark.
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Sola: (Solaufein casually aproaches and fills his now empty cup with some wine by burrowing your bottle temporarily. A sad smile dominates his expression.) Aye [CHARNAME]. (*gulp!*) What is more dominant in Underdark than survival and what is more dominant even here or anywhere we could immagine?
PC: a) (Attempt for the last time). Maybe some feelings... You are thinking Phaere don't you?
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Sola: Am I transparent glass that you can read me easly? Yes Phaere or likely my survival despite her and her Matron Ardulace's lovely (!) charm.
(Solaufein gains 50 000 experience.)
Sola: Would you... Would you like to hear my tale? No don't answer. You shall hear it nontheless, at least some of it lest this burden will crush me under my own clay and pragmatical feet. (Solaufein takes a deep breath and resumes his talk while letting it out). I ask myself continously. Why am I allowed to live -even after Phaere and I get... seperated?****
PC: a) Simple. You were a valuable asset.
Sola: For what [CHARNAME]?
] a1) PC: For Fighter Male Society. You were head honcho.
Sola: If I am not mistaken you mean being commander and all. I cannot tell this answer satisfies but perhaps you are right. [End.]*
[!--EDIT|kozand|Mar 24 2003, 02:18 AM--]
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U are right Athena. I am on it. Sorry for wasting your attention needlessly.
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a duplicate! sorry!
[!--EDIT|kozand|Mar 24 2003, 02:14 AM--]
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addiotional input? why yes!
1 U can share your opinions with me anytime.
2 What is Sola's native house's name? We should invent that.
3 What was Sola's late house's name? The house which he was allied with when party arrived Ust Natha.
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Oh, no, it's not a problem, kozand! I just thought you might want to change it so people don't get confused. :)
As for the House names, I think we're looking at that with the poll. It looks like the current winner for House name is Eilservs.
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This is the name of his second house yes?
not his native house.
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*frowns* To be honest, I'm not sure...it's been a while since I looked in on the threads about Sola's backstory.
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i will check myself then. thank u.
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typical length of second running thru of my dialogue:
PC: Hello Solaufein care for another roll?
Sola: You mean brooding my inquisitive friend? I should warn you it won't be more pleasant than before.
Sola: Would you... Would you like to hear my tale? No don't answer. You shall hear it nontheless, at least some of it lest this burden will crush me under my own clay and pragmatical feet. (Solaufein takes a deep breath and resumes his talk while letting it out). I ask myself continously. Why am I allowed to live -even after Phaere and I get... seperated?****
PC: a) Simple. You were a valuable asset.
Sola: For what [CHARNAME]?
] a2) You were needed for Drow Army. A war with surface elves was afoot as we had witnessed together.
Sola: (Bitter laughter.) Hahaha! I don't think we have a real Drow Army in our city states! Each city is one big messy and bloody stage for interhouse political intrigue. Matron mothers command their own personal domestic armies. Besides I was not needed for surface attacks. I was just logistics organizer and a trainer.
(Solaufein gains 5000 experience.) [End.]*
[!--EDIT|kozand|Mar 24 2003, 02:36 AM--]
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ok did you say the dialogues are activated when sola reaches lev 15? could that be a bit late to deal with group intergration problems?
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The maximum length could be obtained by ideal selection:
PC: Hello Solaufein care for another roll?
Sola: You mean brooding my inquisitive friend? I should warn you it won't be more pleasant than before.
Sola: Would you... Would you like to hear my tale? No don't answer. You shall hear it nontheless, at least some of it lest this burden will crush me under my own clay and pragmatical feet. (Solaufein takes a deep breath and resumes his talk while letting it out). I ask myself continously. Why am I allowed to live -even after Phaere and I get... seperated?****
PC: a) Simple. You were a valuable asset.
Sola: For what [CHARNAME]?
]]]] a4) I am listening you for sometime and your words are hollow yet.
Sola: What do you mean?
PC: This is not about drow politics Solaufein. You have some unresolved matters with your past, especially with Phaere.
Sola: True enough but I... I don't want to talk about this anymore[CHARNAME]. I already told you what was disturbing me about her.
PC: (Grim prediction.) Solaufein if you won't confess this at least to yourself you won't find peace. Never.
[Charisma check: CHA ]14. Reputation check: REP ]12. Alignment check: Good or neutral. Succes!]
Sola: (Solaufein's handsome and smooth face suddenly contorts with anger. His fists are clenched now and his gaze is drowned in the impossibility of horizon.) I... I hate this! I hate Phaere for letting me down! I hate Phaere for letting down herself! I hate her for not being stronger! She allowed herself to succumb evil! I hate Ardulace too -for what she has done to her own daughter! Yes drow way! (Solaufein's lips are sealed shut while he is trying to show his disgust and control his anger. But for once he fails for throwing his mug well far and above the nearby bushes.)
]]]]] a4) Stop this foolishness immediately! This is not all of it and you know that! Wanna hit something? Smash! Wanna hit me to let go your anger? By all means continue! Not that I would sit idle here waiting you punch me (*arrogant laughter*)! But for gods' sake man spit it out or it will eat your soul forever!
[Charisma check: CHA ]15 Succes!]
Sola: I hate all of them! Because, because... Ardulace did not kill me to keep Phaere in line! She knew she would be extremely ambitious after being converted to evil permanently. She would kill me to prove her total devotion to Lolth! But then she would turn against her mother! But her capture and my continous presence distracted her by allowing Ardulace to live a while longer! Ardulace continued to torture Phaere even long after many viper headed flails of Handmaidens of Lolth ceased to rip her tender flesh!
Sola: (Solaufein suddenly collapses on the rock he was just sitting.) I... I don't remember myself being such a mess. If were not you but another I don't think I would be capable of releasing this outburst.
PC: What you gonna do about it? Aimless hatred is like mad dog. It will bite everybody and will charge everything in its path. Until it will be dealt appropriately. And there is only one way to deal with mad dogs.
Sola: (The dark elf is speaking to himself like he is in trance. You cannot help but thinking you set motion of his inner struggles and now they are mystically culminating before your very eyes -with unpredictable supernatural results, but sense of relief soothes your sense of agitated dread. You hope you did not create a monster out of this confused and introvert drow.)
Sola: You... as a Bhaalspawn understand hatred, death and murder better than me yes? This is why I cannot rage at you! This is what I should be wary of. Very well [CHARNAME]. I won't allow others be hurt like me and suffer like my dark elven brethren by selfish people! What... What would I become if I ever suffer like Phaere by hands of Loth's children? Did she not kill her own sisters before and after knowing me? I shall resort to the soul within. I pray Eilistraee so she can grant me the ability to chanelize my frustrated hatred for smiting my unholly enemies in the name of good!
Sola: (Solaufein suddenly rises again. He seems to fill with inner strength and a downcast white beam descends from sky to envelop troubled drow warrior. After being blinded for a moment, holy light fades and Solaufein seems larger, his muscles thicker and his cold drow rage could be seen behind his contorted mask called face, as well as his purple eyes burning like two metal cores.)
(Solaufein gains 100 000 experience).
(Solaufein gains innate ability: Drow Upon Holly Might).
Sola: You, you helped me to understand my essence better! Thank the gods I am honest and good enough to recieve my Silver Lady's sweet blessing. Though I would prefer innocence of a child than holly might I believe.
PC: You helped yourself. I did nothing but making it easier for you, for giving birth your own truths buried deep. And what you would be then? Sola boy instead of Uncle Sola? There is another lesson to take here Solaufein. Think wisely.
Sola: I will go do this but alone, for now. If you would excuse me... (You respect dak elf's solace. )
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you are trully a writer of great talent my friend!
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Cursed one u are maybe right but without Tsuru and Sphira's input i dunno what to say...
maybe only this option:
]]]] a4) I am listening you for sometime and your words are hollow yet.
and all conversation triggered by its selection should be delayed till lev 15.
I mean this option should not appear until sola's fighter level is 15
so we can balance him further by delaying DUHM ability.
since 45 mins of real time delay for every seperate option to appear when the last session is done will already delay everything.
i mean delaying prevents sola gains to many quest exp via repeted force talks within minitues.
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*blush* :P
why thank u!
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I like your ideas kozand. :) But it is not very clear to me, but I saw Hendyrk is helping you out and he's very good with that sort of thing so that won't be a problem too soon! Only thing I'd frown about is the addition of new powers and XP. There's a game balance that some people like to keep and Wes is the one on who decides what bonuses Sola might get.
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*nod* Exactly, Sphira. It would probably be okay to suggest something like it, but not to say it has to be in the dialogue :)
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Very nice, kozand. I like it.
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Thank u my friends.
As I stated before this a team work but also Wes's work foremost. Of course he will decide on such points.
As for me I will also abide u, Sphira and Tsuru.
Sphira if u mean my meaning is not clear that was the best I could do. Hendryk is kindly helping me. Thank u Hendryk. :)
I understand your balance concern. So here is some explanations for Westley and u.
I want to clarify.
1 DUHM ability,
a) Will replace Tsuko-Ken's permanent stat bonuses.
b ) Dialogue options leading to the acquisition of this ability won't be triggered until Sola's FIGHTER level will be 15.
c) It could be used only once per day.
d) So potions of CON will be still useful.
2 EXP points,
a) Not each dialogue option gives EXP.
b ) Not every options gives high EXP.
c) Only one dialogue option could be selected per session.
d) Next session won't be available until 45 minutes of REAL TIME will pass.
e) Which means Sola won't level up by continously force talking him within minutes.
f) Extra EXP does have its merits. Yes, fighter mages are powerful multi class warriors. And their singular levels for each of their class should be lower than their single class counterparts. But;
*) Sola won't have DUHM ability immediately.
**)Tsuko Ken won't give any continous stat bonus.
Therefor giving him some EXP to make him relatively high level fghter/mage in a long period of real time balances pros and cons methinks. What say u?
[!--EDIT|kozand|Mar 24 2003, 07:52 PM--]
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just make sure the exp dialogues can only be trigered once each.
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They are! Default by coception.
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*nudges Sphira and Athena about their dialogue* Sent it in yet? :)
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Is there an animal dialoge starter? If Sola and the pc are in a forest area, It would probally make a good dialoge starter ( for a druid or a ranger pc i mean)
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I'll try to make a dialoge for that::starts thinking:: I should have 1 by tomorrow :)
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Alright here it is :) ::takes deep breath:: It might need a little more working on also It might need a few more things added so any ideas are gladly appreciated:
Pc- come with me Soluafein, I want to show you somthing.
Sola- Where are you taking me *char name*?
1a)- you'll see(go to 1b)
-Soluafein why do you ask so many questions?(go to 1c)
-Just cmon will ya(go to 1b)
1b) *chuckle* as you wish.
1c) my apologies *char name* I was just asking
(as you are walking down the dirt path you notice that Soluafein is deep in thought. You wonder what he could be thinking about. You stop however when you realize that Soluafein has noticed your gaze and is looking right at you.)
Sola- Whats wrong*char name*? you looked lost in thought. Might I ask whats on your mind?
pc-hm? oh, its..its nothing Soluafein. I was just thinking about what a beautiful day it turned out to be, considering the cloudy morning we had, thats all. (go to 2c)
- I could ask you the same question Soluafein (go to 2e)
-Its nothing ...come on where almost there. end
2c)your right about that my love,::Soluafein says as he wraps his arms around your waist:: I never knew the surface world could hold such beauty, but still ::Soluafein leans towards your ear and says:: nothing I've seen in this world can compare to the beautiful woman right in front of me. (go to 2d)
2d) Thankyou Soluafein. That is one of the most sweetest thing anyone has ever said to me.
Sola-Its the truth my love::Soluafein then pulls you into his embrace and gives you a kiss::
2e) Sola- Oh, forgive me *char name* I was just thinking about somthing, nothing important. (go to 2f)
2f)Its alright Soluafein, I was just a little curious thats all.
Sola- Thats alright . I thankyou for respecting my thoughts. end
Alright Im done the first half :D sorry I can't finish the rest till later. I still have to think a little more. Comments and Ideas are welcome :D
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Nice beginning, Saphhire :) Do join us in Sooo anytime you wish, chocolates and jacuzzi await!
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I like it! Maybe a bit more romantic and serious questions and answers by Charname's and Soluafein's part?.
Your dialogue is casual and urges Sola to be random and it is good because it is casual. But just a bit... I dunno. I am not native speaker.
U are welcome here. Sapphire Dragon. :)
[!--EDIT|kozand|Mar 27 2003, 02:22 PM--]
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Thanyou :) Im so happy ::Grins:: But your right it needs a little spice. I'll try it again ::starts thinking:: :huh: hmmmmm.
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Have some chocolate, it inspires the muses :)
Oh, one thing we have to remember in general ... Sola is a unisex romance, so we try to keep things gender neutral when possible. Man/Woman can be coded so it aays whichever the PC is, of course :)
Keep up the good work, Sapphire, I'm glad you joined us!
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Thankyou! :) :huh: hmmm...a unisex..Ok! :) I'll give it a try. I'm almost done with the first dialogue.
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Ok I've finished the ending part of the 1st dialogue. :;munches on chocolate chip cookie:: anyone want one? :;offers cookies::Im still not sure if i did it right so again any ideas are greatly accepted. :) Here it goes:
(Continueing from were we left off)
PC look Soluafein a chinchilla! Oh my hes so cute(As you pick up the little creature you notice the semi confused look Soluafein is giving you. You alomost choke trying not to laugh)
Sola- A what? Whats a chinchilla??
His expressions
( :huh: )
2)- this little guy, look. Isn't he adorable.(go to 2c)
-A chinchilla is a small squirrellike rodent none for their very soft fur.(2b)
-Here, you want to pet him?(Soluafein doesnt answer) cmon you overgrown baby he wont bite. He's really soft.(go to 2c)
2b) I see*char name* you must know alot about this animal then.(2d)
2d) -Actually thats all I really know about chinchillas.
-well you dont exactly have to be a wise man to see that chinchillas are small, resemble squirrells, and soft.-end. (any ideas)
2c)(soluafein gently strokes the chinchillas head) Sola-He is quite soft. I never knew that these creatures existeddddd-(you look down to were the chinchilla was, when you notice that it has hopped out of your arms and right into Soluafein's.)
Sola(the chinchilla closes its eyes and buries its nose into Soluafeins chest) *char name* what is he doing...?
P.C -aw I think he likes you::smile:; thats so cute. ( go to 3a)
-Hey give me 'my' chinchilla back! (3d)
3a)(Soluafein looks a little speechless, as if he's contemplating on what to say next.)What should I do with him?
P.C Keep petting him of course. The little guy really seems to like you.-end
3d) No need to get so hostile *char name* here(soluafein returns the chinchilla to you and returns to camp)-end
There all done. I was having a little trouble thinking about what kind of animal should appear when 'Chinchilla' popped in my head. If any better animals come up please tell me. Thankyou ::smiles:: I hope you like it. Im going off to think about another one.
:) :D :)
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Cookies! Yet another way to our .. err.. the muses hearts ;)
What we need to do is put it in coded form and take a look at the whole thing to see where it stands. Sapphire, I can easily do this for you or teach you how to do it, if you wish? Just let me know which you'd prefer :)
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hehe very nice!
edit: you could have sola shoe away the chinchilla in a next dialogue as it has been following the group. maybe sola could keep it as a familiar?
[!--EDIT|thecursed|Mar 28 2003, 10:54 AM--]
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I agree cursed! That would be funny!
Sapphire this is very cute! Tsuru! I think we are making a good mod here thanks to wes, u, Sphira, Hendryk, Cursed one whýle team i guess!
Finally random life aspects are comprised in infinity games! I like it.
*looks for his dictionary to learn how that rodent is called in turkish.*
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hey call me TC like every one here! one wild team indeed
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I like the idea of the chinchilla. Very original. I think you should use TC's idea about the chinchilla following the group around.
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Thankyou, I will use TC's idea :) Also, I would like to learn how to put the dialogues in coded form :)
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If it is not a problem for u friend, I like to call u cursed one. May I? :)
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It's very simple to put dialogues into coded format actually. Don't worry about globals or variables, it's best for Wes to do that part. Following is a small example from Sola's file:
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN sample
SAY ~I cannot help but wonder if I have done the right thing. My actions have caused the death of Phaere. You may find it hard to imagine, but in my mind's eye I see her as she was long ago: loving and enthusiastic. Torture changed all of that. Or so I think. What if Phaere was merely playing a role, as was I?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Phaere ordered us to kill you. Her only concern was the rise of her House in the Drow social structure. If she still truly loved you she would not have been quite so convincing at hating you.~ GOTO sample1
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I have no time for your self-doubts, Solaufein. Keep your thoughts to yourself.~ GOTO sample2
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN sample1
SAY ~True. But was I not just as convincing in my apparent hatred of her?~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~Actually, your concern leaked through. You followed her home after she was captured and never considered direct revenge against her.~ GOTO etc
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~I guess it's possible that she was not totally corrupted. But how could you have known? ~ GOTO etc1
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN sample2
SAY ~Of course. I should have known.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
Basically, you start with sample. You then have a choice to (sample1) continue the conversation or (sample2) exit the conversation. This is a very basic example of putting the dialogue in code form and can contain any number of branches, of course. There can be several PC responses, each leading to another NPC response or ending the dialogue.
The things that are capitalized (IF, THEN, BEGIN, EXIT, END and so on) *must* be capitalized or Weidu will throw a fit :)
There, have I made it clear as mud? :)
Please do ask if you have any questions. I'm afraid I'm so used to writing that way now that I may not have made things as clear as I should/could have.
[!--EDIT|Tsuru|Mar 28 2003, 09:49 PM--]
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Dont worry its clear :) Thankyou.
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Dont worry its clear :) Thankyou.
Whew! You're welcome. :D
Do feel free to ask any questions you might have though!
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lol I love the chinchilla Idea! I think its cute. Have you thought of his name yet? In fact I love all the ideas here! I hope that they will all be in the game you people rule! I think I'll get started on a dialogue too. :)
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Welcome, Silver! Just check your sanity at the door and you'll do fine here ;)
*wanders off in search of the ever-elusive muses*
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maybe saphire will want to make a poll?
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oh man, you guys got chinchillas, but NO fluffy pink, cute vorpal bunnies....
ITS NOT FAIR!!!
sob.... :( :( :(
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Thanks to Hendryk I give u my first dialogue's final version here. He corrected my grammar mistakes and added nice literature and flavour!
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Sola: Veldrin... I... I had no idea... (Laughter, a mix of vast melancholy and great merriment, escapes his lips).
PC
a) You had more important matters on your mind, Solaufein.
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b ) Now what, Solaufein?
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c) Your life is granted you, mad drow. Cherish it and begone!
Sola: I... Obviously I was wrong about you. So be it. I won't bother you again (Solaufein's frozen voice shows no signs of regret). [No romance in future. Though he will still offer to join party later.]
d) My dear unwitting, comrade, we don't have much time now. Phaere awaits.
Sola: (He smiles, amazed and embarrassed.) You are right of course. [Original Sola farewell dialogue kicks in.]
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Sola: Veldrin, I always thought I would care only for mind not appearance. But now, I learn your true race and suddenly your veil is lifted! You seemed always a most fair drow [gender]. I am glad you are not to remain here. Phaere would kill you in the end to sever her connection to the crimes she bade you do or simply out of of jealousy...
PC: Wait, my friend. Are you saying Phaere would kill me because of jealousy?
Sola: Yes... Have you not heard her? It is the drow way [CHARNAME]. Because of you accomplishments, Phaere discard you sooner or later. But...sooner, I judge, from jealousy because of your physical and ...spiritual...qualities, your ability to rally others to you. And, too, because you can complete tasks that she would not dare to attempt.
PC a) Say nothing and wait...
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b ) C'mon, drow. Spit it out! I can’t wait forever!
PC c) Physical qualities? Err... I am not quite sure what you mean...could you clarify that a bit, please?
PC d) Please continue, Solaufein.//goto 4
Sola B): (Frustration almost overwhelms Solaufein yet somehow he maintains his composure.) Sorry [CHARNAME]. Go in peace. [Original Sola farewell dialogue kicks in.]
Sola c): I could...if you have no objection to flattery in the barracks.
PC: My barracks are quite impervious to flattery, thank you. Your plain opinion would do nicely.
Sola: Then...it is a matter beyond mere beauty of form. You have a vitality and...a self-assurance that is not arrogance. This marks you out from other drow. I deem it marks you out in your own society as well. (It might be just a trick of the light but Solaufein’s cheeks redden visibly.)
If Anomen is in the party:
Bah! Why waste your time on trivial exchanges with every off-beat individual, be they drunks, beggars or drow, [CHARNAME]? Bah! Have it your way. One day you will kill us all with one of these ‘getting-to-know-you’ sessions!
If Viconia is in the party:
So Jalil! One drow is so insufficient for your anthropological inquires that you must experience another one?
If Viconia is in the party and romances PC:
So Jaluk, are you suddenly tempted by marginal lifestyles? If you cheat me with a woman I will kill her. If you cheat me with this... lowly male I will kill you both!
PC: You were right the first time, Solaufein. That does sound terribly like flattery.
Sola 4: I am impressed by the beauty of your true self!
PC: Are … you implying that our drow illusions are dispelled? My hands are still coal black.
Sola: No Veldrin. Your friends appear to be drow. I think only I can see your true form. An interesting thing to ponder upon. Which comes first? Mind or body? And why your illusion is dispelled only for my eyes? Unless...
PC: a) (Brief silence.) I’ll let you brood on that for awhile yet. Farewell, my friend. Do not to linger too long. Our mutual enemies are not known for their patience, methinks.
Sola: Ha! [CHARNAME]! I see these dark caverns do not dull your sense of humour! [Original Sola farewell dialogue kicks in.]
b ) Err... I must be really going.
Sola: [Original Sola farewell dialogue kicks in.]
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So what about chinchilla poll? did saphire post the final version?
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Not yet. Im sorry Ive been really busy with school. :( [_[ But thank goodness its the weekend at last :) hopefully I'll have it up tomorrow night. Do I code it exactly the way you showed me Tsuru?
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Ack! wrong Screen name :blink: forgot to change from my sisters screen name. oppps :ph34r:
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Ok I've finally begun to code the chinchilla dialogue ^-^ But just incase i write it wrong Im going to write half of the 1st part. Please tell me if it's right or wrong. :)
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample
Say~Where are you taking me?~
IF~~THEN REPLY~Oh you'll see.~ GOTO sample1
IF~~THEN REPLY~Why do you have to ask so many questions?~GOTO sample2
IF~~THEN REPLY~Just cmon will ya.~GOTO sample1
END
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 1
SAY~As you wish.
Ok. Im done :) So please tell me if I made any mistakes. Also how do you put (*charname*) in the code? and how should I put in the parts with the chinchilla? :blink:
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hooray!!!
saphire you are my hero!!!
a chinchilla dialog...yipee...
ok, people, i have a fixation on cute, cuddly animals...(NO!!! NOT THAT WAY...ya sick puppy....sniff...)
i want more cute animals in the party, boo and boo2 and my ferret familiar gillian are simply not enough....
(not named after the little buddy, bob denver, but gillian anderson...growl....hubba hubba....)
i really think that one of the very very few problems with sola mod is the serious brooding nature of the dialogs, i really feel that a little whacky and silly humor would seriously make the mod simply far more enjoyable...
when i got the vorpal bunnies dialog the first time, i literally fell over laughing, i mean its so completely out of step with the rest of the mood of the mod, i really think a dash of humor, and a pinch of fluffy white bouncing chinchillas (or pink vorpal bunnies...sigh...) would seriously make people enjoy the mod more...kinda provide a contrast, like sweet and sour pork...
ummm...sweet and sour pork, with some fried rice and chow mein...doesnt that sound good???
ummm....
time to raid the fridge, bye...
no, not that fridge, ya silly swabbies...hehehheh
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Much improved kozand I like it.
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Thank u but I owe that to Hendryk. He is the man! :)
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::smiles:: Oh yay! I guess this means I did it right :) ::does victory dance:: :) though Im still confused about how your suppossed to code something like this ::as you pick up the little creature you notice the confused look thats plastered on Soluafein's face::.
and Thankyou! :D :P :)
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urgh, sorry, Sapphire, it's been a horrid week for me and haven't been able to focus like I should here.
To put in the PC's name, you type CHARNAME in [ ]
We usually use (This to indicate action) rather than plain speaking.
You do need to indent also, as in
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN sample
SAY ~First line.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~one.~ GOTO two
END
If it ends on a line with no response it would be
SAY ~~ IF THEN BEGIN sample2
SAY ~last line.~
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
Clear as mud again? :)
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:P :) yep! thanks again! Though, do i also put [] for the ::bends down and picks up giant sized spiked mallet:: parts in the dialogue? :huh:
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:P :) yep! thanks again! Though, do i also put <> for the ::bends down and picks up giant sized spiked mallet:: parts in the dialogue? :huh:
*shakes head*
(bends down and picks up giant sized spiked mallet)
The [ ] is only for things like the PC's name and (here I'm going to confuse you further *ducks*) the command that indicates a player's sex i.e. LADYLORD
If you think this is bad, wait'll the modding bug bites you and you get into variables and timers and ids and so on *grin* Though I still say if I can do it, anyone can.
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Hi Im new here. Im going to start writitng a dialogue for here but im confused. In code form what how would you write and action. example. :: Pc runs over and hugs Sola:; :blink: ;)
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Example from Sola's .D file
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN example
SAY ~I dream of that beautiful face I can never forget.~
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~(Make a slight noise)~ GOTO example1
IF ~~ THEN REPLY ~(Feign sleep)~ GOTO example2
END
Both replies are in action form, indicating action rather than speech. This can also be used in the SAY line to indicate an action rather than speech.
The SAY line is always for the character who begins the conversation, in this case Sola. The REPLY is for the PC or whichever NPC Sola would be speaking to in the dialogue.
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Oh, Ok! thankyou no more questions :) Yay! I should have it up and done by tonight. :D :P
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be warned, once you get into developing, there is only one cure...
becoming a techie....(or drinking beer until you fall down...)
i used to be a developer, with c and c++ (dumb, bumb language, no standardized prototype placement...what moron came up with that little "feature") then realizing i really was turning into a couch potato, i moved straight into network admin and server troubleshooting...
never looked back...
unfortunately, this career change may bit me in the ass later...sigh...
now i am moving into the more upper levels of network admin, as a full ccnp....(studying that now...hard...hard...hard...)
which means i may well spend more time writing and editing router configuration files, and doing most of my work on hyperterminal...sigh...
well, fortunately its a bit ways off...
but this is why i avoided learning weidu and near infinity...i dont wanna become a modder...
mommas, dont let your babies grow up to be modders.....
modders love weidu and clear crystal APPENDS....
(sung to the tune of "dont let your sons grow up to be cowboys"...)
now that i have throughly confused everyone, my work is done...
hehhehheh
:P :D :rolleyes: ;) :) :) :)
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Hey, this is my first time here. first off I like all of the dialogues here so...I made one of my own. Here it is...also this dialogue is for a female pc she can be a fighter, mage..ect ect..OK I'll shut up now and just put it down.
(At night)
(You are sleeping on a windy night, thinking about your child hood with Gorian, and how you brother Sarevock killed him. You still have that blank in your mind and heart why you are one of Bhaal’s spawns, his dark child. You can barley now remember Gorian’s face, all you can remember is a shadow with a kind heart and soft voice, that took care of you and Imoen, and then left you on your own with a memory you never forgot and never will forget. The memory of Gorian’s death. Suddenly a scary and dark shadow appears, it kills Imoen and everything in site as you see that dark figure destroying everything in site you feel good, and evil. As you watch yourself storm arrowed the place with no concerns what so ever you here a dark evil laugh, with anger.)
P.C : NO, NO, KEEP BACK, KEEP BACK, AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Solaufein :Charname, charname! “What is it, what is it!” Don’t worry it was just a dream, don’t worry, (Soluafein holds you in arms tightly)
P.C :Panting/panicking: Solaufien, Solaufien, oh, It was horrible! I-I-I became the slayer and I-I was destroying everything! Everything oh……………..
Solaufien: :Soluafein picks you up and begins to walk toward the lake) Uh… :Charname: that’s very sad but haven’t you had one of those dreams before my love?
P.C: Y-Yes why do you ask my love? ::confused::
Solaufien: Well… uh.. (Suddenly gets sarcastic) I had one of those dreams myself
P.C: Really?
Solaufien: Yeah, I have, and you know what helps me get better?
P.C : ::strangely you suddenly find yourself getting a little curious/nervous : What?
Soluafein: ……………
P.C:: Solaufien.. my love, Where are you taking me?
Solaufien: to a place that helps me get better, and have a good rest of the night.
P.C: What do you mean.. ::you suddenly notice that the campsite is nowhere to be seen and that Soluafein has carried you to a lake and is now holding directly above the water:: Solaufien.. Solaufien what are you doing? Put me down… One the ground. Please not in there I don’t exactly want to get wet right at this ti-….
Solaufien: ::Soluafein presses his lips over yours:: don’t worry ::charname::, just relax.
P.C: Solaufien NOOOOOO!! ::you scream as Soluafein drops you into the cold, muddy water of the lake:: SOLAUFIEN!!!! YOU ARE DEAD!!!!!!!!!
Solaufien: ::laughs:: don’t worry, like I said, “just Relax”(smirks/winks)
( runs off.)
Ok Im done. :) :P Hope you like it and any ideas are appreciated. Thank you, and goodnight
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Oooookay.
Folks, please, we have a new topic about writing for Solaufein. The delicious drow *does* have a set personality. And while I don't want to discourage new input and talent, we do have to abide by Wes's vision of him. I encourage you to read the "On Writing for Solaufein" topic.
Please don't be discouraged or hurt by criticisms/comments/suggestions. That's what the Workshop is for.
That said.. this last post. The idea of Sola comforting the PC after a nightmare is a good one and could be developed further. We do try to keep the writing gender-neutral as that is Wes's Solaufein.. and I don't think he'd dump the PC in a lake :)
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Hey, this is my first time here. first off I like all of the dialogues here so...I made one of my own. Here it is...also this dialogue is for a female pc she can be a fighter, mage..ect ect..OK I'll shut up now and just put it down.
(At night)
(You are sleeping on a windy night, thinking about your child hood with Gorian, and how you brother Sarevock killed him. You still have that blank in your mind and heart why you are one of Bhaal’s spawns, his dark child. You can barley now remember Gorian’s face, all you can remember is a shadow with a kind heart and soft voice, that took care of you and Imoen, and then left you on your own with a memory you never forgot and never will forget. The memory of Gorian’s death. Suddenly a scary and dark shadow appears, it kills Imoen and everything in site as you see that dark figure destroying everything in site you feel good, and evil. As you watch yourself storm arrowed the place with no concerns what so ever you here a dark evil laugh, with anger.)
This section could definately use triming down, it seems to recount the entire tale in a dream, which is a little more detail than we need, perhaps if we trimmed everything before "Suddenly a scary..."
You also do need some alternative to dumping Charname in the lake for the comforting, maybe a dance, Solaufein worships Elistraee and dance is very important part of that goddesses rituals.
As far as gender nuetrality, unless I missed something there was nothing in your dialog that limited the gender of the PC.
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Ok heres the continuation of my chinchilla dialogue :yawn : sorry it took me so long to get it coded.
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 2
SAY~my apologies [charname] I was just asking.
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample
SAY~(As your walking down the dirt covered path you notice that Soluafein is deep in though. You wonder what he could be thinking about, your thoughts are stopped however when you realize that Soluafein has noticed your gaze and is looking straight at you.)
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample
SAY~Whats wrong [charname]? you look lost in thought. Might I ask what your thinking about?
IF~~THEN REPLY~hm? Oh..it's nothing Soluafein. I was just thinking about what a pretty day it turned out to be, considering the cloudy morning we had, thats all.~GOTO sample1
IF~~THEN REPLY~I could ask you the same question.~GOTO sample 2
IF~~THEN REPLY~It's ..It's nothing Soluafein. GOTO sample 3
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample1
SAY~your right about that my love, (Soluafein says as he wraps his arms around your waist) I never knew the surface could hold such beauty, but still (Soluafein leans towards your ear and says) nothing I've seen in this world can compare to the beautiful woman right in front of me.GOTO sample 8
IF~~THEN REPLY~Thankyou Soluafein. That is one of the most sweetest thing anyone has ever said to me. GOTO SAMPLE 9
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 8
SAY~Its the truth my love (Soluafein then pulls you into his embrace and gives you a kiss)
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 2
SAY~Oh, forgive me [charname]. I was just thinking about something...It's nothing important. GOTO sample 5
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 3
SAY~very well. GOTO sample 6
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 5
IF~~THEN REPLY~ It's alright Soluafein. I was just a little curious thats all.
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 5
SAY~ Thats understandable, though I thank you for respecting my thoughts. GOTO sample 6
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 6
SAY~ Oh look Soluafein! a chinchilla! Oh my gosh, he's so cute! ( as you oick up and hold the little creature you notice the confused looks Soluafein is giving you. You almost choke as you try not to laugh.)
IF~~THEN SAY~A what? Whats a chinchilla??
IF~~THEN REPLY~This little guy. Look. Isn't he adorable?GOTO sample 7
IF~~THEN REPLY~A chinchilla is a small squirrellike rodent known for their soft fur. GOTO sample 10
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 7
IF~~THEN SAY~Here, you want to pet him?(Soluafein doesnt answer) cmon you overgrown baby he wont bite. He's really soft. GOTO sample 11
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 10
SAY~ I see. [char name] you must know alot about this animal then. GOTO sample 12
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 11
SAY~(soluafein gently strokes the chinchillas head) He is quite soft. I never knew that these creatures existeddddd-
IF~~THEN REPLY~(you look down to were the chinchilla was, when you notice that it has hopped out of your arms and right into Soluafein's.) GOTO sample 13
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 14
SAY~(the chinchilla closes its eyes and buries its nose into Soluafeins chest) [char name] what is he doing...?
IF~~THEN REPLY~Aw I think he likes you (smile) thats so cute. GOTO sample 14
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 14
SAY~(Soluafein looks a little speechless, as if he's contemplating on what to say next.) What should I do with him?
IF~~THEN REPLY~Keep petting him of course. The little guy really seems to like you.-END
IF~THEN REPLY~-Hey give me 'my' chinchilla back!
SAY~No need to get so hostile [char name] here(soluafein returns the chinchilla to you and returns to camp)-end
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample12
SAY~Actually thats all I really know about chinchillas. Well you dont exactly have to be a wise man to see that chinchillas are small, resemble squirrells, and soft.END
OMG thank goodness Im finally done ::falls down:: Oh man I need some more sugar.....AHA! :) :P ::grabs bottle of coke! :gulp: ahhhhhh thats better. Now I have my energy back..::yawn:: then again perhaps not ::yawn:: Im going to bed. Oh yea please tell me if I did anything wrong on the codeing with my luck I know ive got somthing wrong. Oh yea Im pretty sure I messed up on Sample 6 somewhere....Oh heck I'll fix it later. GOODNIGHT EVERYONE!! :D :) :P
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*agrees with Dashael*
Frankly, if my PC had a nightmare and Sola's idea of comforting her was to drop her in a lake, the first thing she'd do upon getting out would be to find him and dump him for being such an insensitive jerk.
And Sola isn't an insensitive jerk; it's not the way he was written. This dialogue has potential, but it needs some revising.
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me like chinchilla dialog!!!
user does happy bunny hop!!!
meow rowl....purr...
and athena has gotta point...that is the sorta thing the imoen romance mod does...
in fact, the imoen romance mod, one of the most pivital moments starts with imoen taking her boots off, filling it with crystal clear lakewater, freezing cold, and dousing you in the face while you were sleeping...
i guess its different if the romance interest is a girly girl...
in fact, i could just see athena casting fireball at this point...or polymorph other, or contagion spell...icky...suphurating sores...ugh...
:rolleyes: :D :P
user goes back to bunny hop dancing in celebration of fun and cool chinchilla dialog...
hey, wouldnt it make a lot of sense for sola to not understand the idea of pets???
sola: so, charname, i noticed that little surface animal poking its head out of your pack...what is it??
pc: well, its my familiar...a little (familiar type), i thought you knew what a familar is since you are a spell caster, like i am...
sola: oh of course, please pardon me...i was just a little confused since last night i saw you pull that little animal out of your pack, and you were stroking it and cuddling it like...well...(blush) like a lover, while making nonsense sounds to it, and feeding it from your own hands...
pc: oh my...how sweet, youre jelous...hehehheh...i was treating it like a pet...i mean i know a mage's familar is suppose to work for its keep, like a servant, but i am powerful enough so that my familiar is more like a pet than a servant...look, (holds familar up to sola) isnt it just so cute????
sola: erm, my friend, what is a pet??
pc: oh my....a pet is a small animal you pick up and take with you that you are responsible for, that amuses you with its antics, and that you can cuddle and hold and stroke when you are feeling lonely, and that generally comforts you just by being with you...
sola: i see...yet another idea that will take some time for me to get used to, i think..in the underdark, the only familar you were allowed to have is a spider, and in reality they were all spies for lolith...i myself have had over 5 familiars while i was training to be a mage, and in each case i had to slay them myself lest they betray me to the handmaidens of my interest in lady elestree....( this would explain sola's low con scores...)
pc: im sorry solafein....i simply did not understand...my familiar is named gwendolyn...(or sapphire....ya like???) and i have had her for some time now..she helped a lot when i was first starting out...but these days, all she does is curl up in my pack, and makes amusing comments....and eat herself plump, the poor dear...
now this conversation could lead to pc advising sola after meeting the chinchilla that the chinchilla could make a great pet...
IF~~THEN BEGIN sample 14
SAY~(Soluafein looks a little speechless, as if he's contemplating on what to say next.) What should I do with him?
IF~~THEN REPLY~Keep petting him of course. The little guy really seems to like you.-END
pc: sola, remember how you were curious about the surfacer custom of keeping pets?? why dont you adopt the little bugger, and keep it as your pet??? it really seems to like you very very much, and look at its cute and fuzzy wuzzy face...aaaawww...how sweet, see how it leans into your strokes of its fur???
sola with a rather strangely gentle and soft expression on his face: yes, i do seem to feel remarkably relaxed while stroking this little animal....
imoen pops out of a bush where she has been hiding, listening to every word....: hey, whats going on?? aaaawwww....look at the little cute fuzzy wuzzy chinchilla...I WANT IT, GIVE IT TO ME!!!
pc: imoen!!! solafein found it, and he gets to decide if he wants to keep it first!!!
imoen starts bawling: i want it....
solafein: there, there, dont fret, imoen is just being a baby...you just snuggle here, against me, and just ignore imoen...
imoen carefully winks at you....
hey, sappire, i am not trying to hijack the idea away from you, this is just a suggestion, and hopefully this will inspire more chinchilla dialog..you like???
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and athena has gotta point...that is the sorta thing the imoen romance mod does...
in fact, the imoen romance mod, one of the most pivital moments starts with imoen taking her boots off, filling it with crystal clear lakewater, freezing cold, and dousing you in the face while you were sleeping...
i guess its different if the romance interest is a girly girl...
in fact, i could just see athena casting fireball at this point...or polymorph other, or contagion spell...icky...suphurating sores...ugh...
I've played the Imoen romance...it was fun.
However, I played it with an entirely different PC then I play the Sola mod with, and as I recall Imoen didn't throw that water on the PC right after the PC had had a nightmare. Timing is critical. :) Neither I nor my PC would take kindly to essentially hearing, "Gee, I'm sorry you had a nightmare about a traumatic part of your past, honey! Tell ya what, I'll take you out of your warm bed, drop you in an icy lake, laugh, and run away. Will that make you feel better?"
And no, I wouldn't cast Contagion or Fireball on someone for dumping me in the lake...(unless I was wearing something that became transparent when wet, and there were a lot of people around). Polymorph Other is entirely a possibility...but it's much more likely I'd use something like Morte's Litany of Curses. ;)
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And no, I wouldn't cast Contagion or Fireball on someone for dumping me in the lake...(unless I was wearing something that became transparent when wet, and there were a lot of people around). Polymorph Other is entirely a possibility...but it's much more likely I'd use something like Morte's Litany of Curses. ;)
hehe *note to self: forget the lake plan on wedding night* :D
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OOhh! I love it!! :lol: Its perfect and It sounds like something Sola+Immy would say (especially Immy..) Thankyou :;hugs UserUnfreindly ^-^ :: ..... Though that does make me think what should the chinchilla's name be?
hm..Thankyou again for the inspiration I'll start another dialogue. Though any suggestions for the name would be helpfull. :)
Oh and killer uh..mabey you could change the ending so the pc ends up pulling Sola in with her??( I dont know..just trying to keep the ending close to the orignal)
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is there a drow equivalent to "cute"?
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cute? i dunno drow are cruel.
Well Chinchilla dialogue needs neutralism toward genders i think. Not woman but [LADYLORD] ect.
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cute? i dunno drow are cruel.
thats why i asked. if the chinchilla is to be given a name, it should come from drowish.
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OOhh! I love it!! :lol: Its perfect and It sounds like something Sola+Immy would say (especially Immy..) Thankyou :;hugs UserUnfreindly ^-^ :: ..... Though that does make me think what should the chinchilla's name be?
hm..Thankyou again for the inspiration I'll start another dialogue. Though any suggestions for the name would be helpfull. :)
Oh and killer uh..mabey you could change the ending so the pc ends up pulling Sola in with her??( I dont know..just trying to keep the ending close to the orignal)
"thats why i asked. if the chinchilla is to be given a name, it should come from drowish. "
nnnaaaahhh...
sola: may i have a moment of your time, charname?
pc: of course, my friend...
sola: this is so trivial, yet i confess to being "stumped" i believe that is the word...
pc: well, since we are not currently fighting for our lives against some gruesome demon from the netherhells, i think we got a little time for trivial problems...(grin)
sola: this is so trivial...i know that the custom of keeping pets usually involves naming the pet...i confess i am quite at a loss in naming my chinchilla....have you a suggestion?
pc: why not give it a drowish name, one that pleases you?
sola: well, i think that would be a step backward, my home is the surface world now, and i think it appropriate my pet should have a surface name...the surface world is still much a puzzle to me, but beautiful, so beautiful...like you, my (whatever endearment or friend) in fact, just like this wonderful little creature...
imoen quipps up...: how about naming it "imoen"? i mean it is incredibly cute and wonderfully cuddly, and so smart and wise and wonderful in every way....hehhehehheh
pc: imoen, as appropriate as that name is for this little creature, i think it might cause a little confusion, to have two imoens in the party...(one is quite a handful as it is...hehehheh)
sola: so, may i ask how you came up with gwendolyn as the name of your familiar...
pc: (blush) well, its the first girl i ever kissed...(if pc is female) i did mention i did not restrict myself to one sex when i was younger, didnt i??? (if pc is male) this was before i discovered men....
user: this is kinda icky, and why i only seem to get inspired for stuff like familars and non romantic dialog...back to the conversation...
sola: i see, well, that wont work for me, since phaere is not a pleasant memory for me, and if i name it charname, the same confusion would apply...
pc: well, how about sapphire??? (in honor of you, sapphire!!!!! no other name is possible or worthy!!!!) for its little bright blue shining eyes...how lovely...
sola: i like that name, tho i was thinking of your eyes...my (friend or endearment)
imoen: hey, come here, sapphire honey...(waves near the chinchilla a piece of honeycomb from breakfast) come to aunty imoen....
the chinchilla rather quickly deserts sola's lap, scampers up to imoen's lap, and crunches the honey comb, with a blissful rapture on its face...
pc: well, barring imoen seducing your pet away from you, i think you have a new friend...my friends, may i present sapphire, the newest addition to our little party...and already adept at wriggling its little self into our hearts...just like imoen...hehehhehhe
korgan: well, given the nature of the sissies and pansys that already make up this little troop of wannabes and cowards, i think the little walking fur coat is gonna fit right in...harharhar...
edwin: ghastly, another useless addition to an already useless party...why oh why did i ever condescend to join this simian band of sub primates is beyond belief...(tho i do admit the drow and charname are at least half way competant...at least once they were graced with my thoughts and orders)
viconia: well, jaluk, i see you are becoming rather acclimated to the banalities of surface life, even to the extent of picking up strays and useless mouths to feed....
pc: you mean just like you, viconia?
viconia: had i even the slightest suspicion that you were even a little serious, i would leave you now, and good riddance...as it is, i will admit your timing is getting better, though the quality of your insults needs much improvement...
pc: why thank you, viccy, its so reassuring to have such an accomplished teacher of the cut down and verbal backhands to correct me in such an important skill (smirk)
aerie: ooooohhhh...sapphire is such a cute name, you little fuzzy wuzzy cutie...(scampers off to the supply bag for more honeycomb) here, you cutie pie, are you hungry???
little sapphire scampers from imoen's lap to aerie's, with a blissful expression on its face, grabs the honeycomb, and scampers back to sola for a stroking.
sola: well, my little friend's mercenary tendencies aside, i think she likes me, and wants to stay...
jahiera: hmmmphh...it goes against nature for wild beasts to be made into lap pets...but i do admit it is quite disarmingly cute, and very lovable....
you like, sapphire ???
:D :P :rolleyes: :)
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i do. the dialogue, but the name? not sure
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or we could even have choices...
my proposed list....
sola: well, i do admit i have some thoughts, here are the names i was thinking of...
1) sapphire
2) sphira
3) tsuru...
pc: well, i like sapphire...
hey, its kinda cool to "autograph" the mod additions by choosing a appropriate name...
:rolleyes: :) :P :D ;)
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And no, I wouldn't cast Contagion or Fireball on someone for dumping me in the lake...(unless I was wearing something that became transparent when wet, and there were a lot of people around). Polymorph Other is entirely a possibility...but it's much more likely I'd use something like Morte's Litany of Curses. ;)
hehe *note to self: forget the lake plan on wedding night* :D
*snicker*
cursed, if you plan to dump me in the lake, I advise you to get your dances first. ;)
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hehe don't worry. that was NEVER my intention
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The dialogue is wonderful UU. Just adapt to Sola-BG2 style a bit and done and done.
But chinchilla is Sapphire's creation so it is her call. BTW Chinchilla is already a good name. Why don't u call it just Chinchilla? It would be original.
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hehe don't worry. that was NEVER my intention
Oh, good. ;) I'd hate to have to drag you over to the Pillowfight and avenge myself in the middle of the festivities.
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promise. i won't be the one to cause trouble.
kozand, do you call your pets, cat or dog? chinchilla could be nice but i do think we should find it a name.
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*grin* I didn't think you would be. Neither does Tsuru, for that matter.
And I have to agree...calling the chinchilla 'Chinchilla' isn't particularly original.
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well i speak turkish it sounds original to me...
of course i was having fun... sort of... :D
what i thought was a bit different. Sola is not a surfacer, for him calling a dog dog could be interesting.
:P
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maybe. but the name is a bit long. i mean even solafein becomes sola. and how would you like to name your pet Chichi?
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Chinchill? hahaha! :lol:
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seriously. if we can't have a drowish name, why not elven. what would be the elven name for that kind of animal?
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"But chinchilla is Sapphire's creation so it is her call. BTW Chinchilla is already a good name. Why don't u call it just Chinchilla? It would be original. "
kozzy is right...(kozzy...hehehehhe)
its sapphiredragon's call, as she came up with the idea first...
chinchilla, i keep thinking of star trek the next generation, where data the android calls his cat "spot"
"The dialogue is wonderful UU. Just adapt to Sola-BG2 style a bit and done and done."
thanks...i did try to get a good sola style going, but i tried to make sola sorta a straight man in this little skit, since i think we are going for a cutsy, comedy line, and the sola style as written by wes, is much more broody and philosophical...so i tried to imagine how sola would react in this slightly light hearted situation, and the best i could come up with was slightly baffled and bemused, and i think i did a credible baffled and bemused sola in this skit...
any suggestions to modification of this dialog would be completely ok, since all my suggestions are simply suggestions, as sapphiredragon "owns" the chinchilla dialog, and she gets the final edit rights...
chichi is pretty good,
maybe "kiki"????
hahhahhahah...
i still like sphira or tsuru...
:rolleyes: :D :P :lol:
just dont use "bun-bun"
thats MY avatar name, and can only be used on sorceror-kensai-assassin-anti-paladin class....
heck, if the weidu chikka's really want to, i betya they could come up with a way to have the player type in the familiar's name....
now the real issue is
what quests will having the chinchilla initiate???
what powers will the chinchilla have???
will it behave like a regular familiar, so you can talk to it for advice and use its powers, or will it be able to do something all together different???
like it could poke its head out of sola's pack, and offer gratuitous (funny) advice???
or will it simply act like a standard ferret familiar????
which means it can pickpocket items for you, and once pickpocketed, it can carry drow items out of the underdark without having it disintegrate, or the rift device out of the temple sewers....
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SOla: [Charname] might ask a question?
PC:-of course -go to 2
-not Now soulafein -end-
2- I was wondering about the delicious food here in the surface
Pc-you are hungry soulafein?
sola: nay, thats not the question,i had observed last night supper and i would ask if you can teach me the basics about how to make an excellent banquet here in the surface.
I'm not talking about burning something into an inedentifiable charcoal, i'm talking about some good meal
Pc- 1-Cook? ehmm... aahh... I can only cook charcoal also... -Go to 3
2-Of course Soulafein, you will help me with it? -go to 4
3-ehh... are you criticising *MY* cooking skills? -go to 5
4-I'm sorry Soulafein, i won't teach you..
3- if that's so i can ask somebody else about it... maybe you can listen, you can never Learn too much -End
4- I will be honored charname about Learning from you the wonderful Art of Gastronomy- End
5- I would never do anything like that, [Charname] i found your cooking Skills a gift to the earth...
Imoen: [giggle], Your taste for Food is Somewhat Screwed Soulafein, [Charname] meatcake would force a troll to vomit... and i won't Talk about [Charname] kobold steak with blue sausage...
Korgan: aye, i would rather eat my axe before eating "something" that [Charname] Cooks
Jan: I was left without words at [Charname] Fried Turnip's
----> insert Npc's comment here
Soulafein: but I really enjoyed all those delicattesen... -end-
what do you think? please i'm no natural English Speaker, so don't beat me about some gramthical errors...
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ehh, there should be some "charnames in between "]" & "[" why it doesen't show????
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ehh, there should be some "charnames in between ">" & "<" why it doesen't show????
Just an oddity of the boards, it won't do that for some reason.
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ehh, there should be some "charnames in between ">" & "<" why it doesen't show????
Just an oddity of the boards, it won't do that for some reason.
i betya that
"[" and "]" are the way that html deliminates comments, like
";" for ini files with windows...hahhahahahahahha....
its funny, since obviously in weidu it is very important, and specifies a variable or macro???
hee hee... :D :P :rolleyes:
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It specifies the PC's name or things like Lord or Lady, etc :)
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hmmm some correction and getting into character and it should be okay. Sola's expression style is a bit different.
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elven? but cursed one a simple functional name like cute eyes or sharp teeth would be more natural.
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hey Im back though with a new sn. :sob: I forgot my password for Duck Killer.... :( . But oh well im rewriting the lake dialogue and now I've written a new one. Ok here it it is.
P.C: Solaufien, do you want me to stay with you forever, together with a child of our own in a house in a beautiful place? I would like you to be honest with me, not that you aren’t honest with me but I really want to know before the time comes where I have to make that decision of becoming the goddess of murder, or to stay here with you and have a life of our own together.
Solaufien: (Solaufien holds you close to him) I would like it if you stay here with me my love, (Soluafein wraps one arm around your waist and holds your chin up to his face) but if you would like to become the goddess of Murder, then that is what you wish to do. I love you (Charname), and I don’t wish to let you go anytime soon my love. Let us have this night to ourselves under the full moon my love.
PC: Thank you my love, I will stay I just needed to here that from you, so I’m sure, now let us be alone together.
Solaufien: (Rubs you all over and kisses you passionately under your the covers.)
Ok tell what you think. bye bye :D
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elven? but cursed one a simple functional name like cute eyes or sharp teeth would be more natural.
just make it in elven. where can i find an online translator
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"pc: well, how about sapphire??? (in honor of you, sapphire!!!!! no other name is possible or worthy!!!!) for its little bright blue shining eyes...how lovely..."
Thank you I hadn't thought of that :P. That could highly be a possibility.
I also think that "2) sphira and tsuru" would make cool names :D
hmm i dont know....mabey I should make a poll for it?
also thank you so much for the inspirations. Im almost finished my dialogue.
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"Thank you I hadn't thought of that . That could highly be a possibility.
I also think that "2) sphira and tsuru" would make cool names
hmm i dont know....mabey I should make a poll for it?
also thank you so much for the inspirations. Im almost finished my dialogue"
hooray!!! can we read it soon???
and you are most welcome...
and do you want me to start another poll on chinchilla names???
actually you should start the poll, (its quite easy if you have not done one before...)
so far the suggested names are
sapphire
tsuru
sphira
chichi
chinchill
turnip (shut up jan!!! i wonder how long you get thrown in jail for smacking a gnome around...)
:D :P :P B) :rolleyes: :)
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i wonder how long you get thrown in jail for smacking a gnome around...
two hours: the time it takes to give you a medal. :D
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for the chinchilla name how about Ryo-Ohki? Its from a tv show and I think it would be cute :) :D :P :rolleyes:
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That is a cute idea Sammy, but I'm not sure what to name the chinchilla to tell the truth. I think i might let everyone else choose. Also Im a little nervous because I dont know If Wes will like my dialogue. But still I'll put your idea in the poll. By the way the tv show is 'Tenchi Muyo' right? :)
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:unsure: Not sure if this goes here. I was thinking of a dialogue/interjection with the Master Wraith in ToB. Given time, I could write something up... Just need to figure out who MW should summon from Sola's past. (Phaere comes to mind...)
Any suggestions?
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There is already a Master Wraith dialogue in Wes's hands actually :)
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Oh. Never mind then. *sighs* Back to the drawingboard... [_[
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That is a cute idea Sammy, but I'm not sure what to name the chinchilla to tell the truth. I think i might let everyone else choose. Also Im a little nervous because I dont know If Wes will like my dialogue. But still I'll put your idea in the poll. By the way the tv show is 'Tenchi Muyo' right? :)
Ryo oki is from the japanese anime series tenchi muyo (no need for tenchi)
and its a cabbit...sorta like me...
i am a combination of user kitty, and bun bun rabbit...
meow, rowl, meow...
(grabs carrots...mmmmmmm...)
i actually like the name "sasami" better, also from the same series...
its a very good anime series...that spawned 3 series...
tenchi the original ova
tenchi in space
tenchi in tokyo,
and 3 movies, and the hideously cutesy pretty sammy ova's...yyyyyechhhhh....
sorry, prettysammy, since i am not a teenage girl, i really cant stand that one...but thank god its not as bad as sailor moon...barf...
btw...i actually have a ryo oki stuffed cabbit in my closet...
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hm thats it im gonna make a poll
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uhm Jenna, or Sapphire do you even know how to make a poll?? Im just saying I tried to and it looks kinda hard.
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its actually quite easy, what kinda poll did ya wanna make???
petit, just click on the green make a poll...
fill in topic, description, poll question...for example,
"do you think UU should be thwapped..."
then in the poll choices, just fill in a answer like
"yes! really really hard"
and separate each choice with a carridge return(make a new line for each choice, and press return to separate each line....)....the forum engine will automatically separate each choice with a little vote hyperlink thingamaboobie...try it, its rather intuitive and just be sure to read the directions carefully...
sapphire, i forgot one...
jiji, the little black talking cat from kiki's delivery service...i am sure kiki would vote for that one.... :D :lol: :rolleyes: :P
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Yea I know how to do that UU. The part Im having trouble with is where it asks for your post. Thats were Im stuck.
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http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827/ca.../44965/4/0/-639 (http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827/catalogmgr/8jzVzMw4CJ2kXEDX21/browse/item/44965/4/0/-639)
here is a picture of ryo ohki...
isnt she cute????
petit, the your post is optional, i think...its just text that will appear at after the poll selections...
in my poll "a slightly demented user poll"
the part where i say
"it had to be done...."
that was what i typed in the "your post" section..its the poll maker's comment about the poll itself....in my case a smart alecky comentary on the poll i just uploaded...
does that clear it up???
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ahhhhhhhh! I give up. UU do you know what the computer means when it says: "A Poll is a choice, 1 entry is not a choice"
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not sure...
you may have hit return twice in the choices selection...heck, why donya just pm me the poll you want, or email me, and i will be more than happy to post it verbatim on what ever forum you want...
i never saw that error before, but i really suspect you hit in the choices field enter (carridge return) twice...thats the only thing i can think of...
say, are you in guided mode or normal mode????
i think guided might give you context sensitive help...you simply place the pointer over a part of the screen you have questions on, and it should give you some advice...depending on how much help was built into the forum software.....
just pm me or email me, and i will do it for ya...
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Thanks I'll do that
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Ive come up with a dialogue that includes chinchilla ^-6 but were should i write it?
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Ive come up with a dialogue that includes chinchilla ^-6 but were should i write it?
I really would suggest asking Wes if he wants a familiar for Solaufein before putting the effort into a dialogue about it.
If you want to workshop any Solaufein dialouge, however, this is the thread for it :)
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ok thanks I'll ask :)
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I suggest u consult Saphire in regards of Chinchilla. I and Sphira combined our efforts. Otherwise many good but conflicting dialogues will deter Wes and us to append them to Sola.
Lil Angel (pleased to meet u!) your avatar is very very very pretty. If u have an unedited jpege send me. I have one friend who would love it as a gift!
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Lil Angel (pleased to meet u!) your avatar is very very very pretty. If u have an unedited jpege send me. I have one friend who would love it as a gift!
oh thankyou! :) Im glad you like it. Sure I'll send it to you :D :)
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eeepp! sisters sn! *switches to correct sn*
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*pushes reset button*
Back to dialogue ideas/workshopping please :)
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oppps sorry. ::looks at cat muse:: cmon you heard her.
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(Psst- Tenchi Muyo was a manga ('comic') series first, and then the OAV's (original animated video's- 'movies') came out. THEN the regular TV series, which isn't nearly as good as the manga and OAV's in most people's opinion (especially because it's not very 'cannon'. Messing with Tenchi-kun, BAH!)
Dialogue, dialogue. Hmm... most drow have big families. Does he mention anywhere anything about siblings he might or might not have had? He could make wishful comparisons of Imeon and /CHARNAME\'s relationship and his own. Um... maybe asking why the PC allowed Sarevok to travel along with them? Those are really just standerd dialogs, though. Something more Sola like... mm... ugh. -_- I don't know. Banter about why the PC chose the class(es) they did. Talk about the nature of gods and goddesses, and how strongly Sola believes in his Goddess. Ask Sola what he would do if he was made a god (I guess that's more of a TOB dialog). Ask why those stupid drow in the arena were considered so powerful when you and your party killed your way through them so easily (no, wait, that's probably not a good one). Talk about those evil revenge spiders and their stupid instant kill ability (no, wait, not that either). Err... talk about getting drunk. Sola's con isn't that high, is it? Heh. Err...
Okay, so I can't come up with anything good. Oi. -_-
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Actually there are no siblings dialogues that I know of. Sphira and I didn't touch on that in the Sola and Phaere sittin' in a tree history. So it's possible :)
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Um...just my input on naming the Chinchilla. You might want to reconsider Chichi as an option, seeing as chichi mean breast in Japanese. Not that Japan exists in the Forgotten Realms...but for the sake of any Japanese-savvy players.
Another thing I was considering as I was reading past posts. I think, considering his background, Sola would definitely act differently depending on the character's gender.
If female, he would probably at first be timid in romancing her, but would eventually gain confidence in his relationship.
As for a male PC...is anyone still entertaining the idea of Sola having had male lovers in the past? He would be more confident regardless, and treat the PC as an equal from the start. Then comes the problem of deciding whether he's the dominant type or not.
By the way, have any of these dialogues been put up for download yet?
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Another thing I was considering as I was reading past posts. I think, considering his background, Sola would definitely act differently depending on the character's gender.
If female, he would probably at first be timid in romancing her, but would eventually gain confidence in his relationship.
Some of this stuff is being handled in flirts. :)
By the way, have any of these dialogues been put up for download yet?
I think the last new dialogue was one from Vampire Hamster, quite some time ago.
I'm not sure how many of these dialogues have been sent to Wes, and from there he has to approve them, code them, and add them in. Hopefully we'll see some new content soon. :)
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For some reason, it's always bothered me that there was never the 'fill the npc in on the past' dialogue that you get with all the other ones. It's insinuated that the group tells Sola about the PC and Imoen being bhaalspawn, that they are after Irenicus and Bodhi to get their souls back, and the like, but you never actually see the conversation. I'd really like to have that in there. Maybe even a little side note about the slayer business. All these things really should be told to a group member, regardless. If I can think up a good way of putting it, I'll post it up. *nodnod*
And if someone else had this idea and it's been done or thought about already, I apologize in advance.
Another thing.. it also really niggled at me that Sola accepts you helping him so easily if you are an elf/half elf. Wouldn't a surface elf have the LEAST reason to help a drow? Well, they might be more likely to help than a fellow drow would be, but it is odd that he doesn't make a comment of some sort.
Like.. say..
Sola: "But.. you are of the surface elves... why would you help a drow?"
1. You've done nothing to harm me. I have no reason to follow through with this order.
2. It's a long story, but suffice to say I don't share the rest of my people's prejudice towards the drow. (this could link to a discussion about some things that happened in BG1.. maybe)
3. None of your business, just be glad I AM helping you.
Sola: "I see." (cuts back to the rest of the dialogue)
Another issue that'd be great to bring up is.. well. The entire time the PC knows Sola in SOA.. s/he doesn't have his/her soul. A good TOB dialogue would be a discussion about their relationship, and how/if things are going to change now that they have their soul back. Being soulless has to do something to a person, regardless of gender and race. It is a very real possibility that a relationship founded during such a time might falter, or even break when things return to normal.
I can't waaaaaaaaaaait for this to come out. Sola is one of my favorite NPCs. He's one of the few that makes me think about all those debates he has with the PC. Really nifty thinking there.