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Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Blackfey on February 01, 2003, 09:57:21 PM
Hello All,

I clua-ed Sola in during Chapter 4 and enjoyed  his dialogues immensely. Unfortunately, I've also begun to to experience frequent unexplained crashes in Bodhi's maze. I just get dumped onto the desktop.  Since the problem started when I added Sola I wonder if the mod is causing it. The other thing that makes me suspect the dreamy drow is that if I initiate a dialogue with him ("I have nothing to say to you right now", etc.), the crash consistently happens 5 seconds later. Could the program be crashing everytime Sola attempts to talk with me?  

Can I fix this? I LOVE having him in the party and don't want to have to uninstall the mod.

Any insight would be appreciated.                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Tsuru on February 01, 2003, 09:58:41 PM
What other mods do you have installed?                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Blackfey on February 01, 2003, 10:03:30 PM
No other mods. I have the official Bioware patch and the Baldurdash fix it patch.                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Tsuru on February 01, 2003, 10:05:18 PM
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No other mods. I have the official Bioware patch and the Baldurdash fix it patch.
                   Well, there went my only theory :) I'm sure someone else can come up with a solution though!
                   
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Sphira on February 01, 2003, 10:19:50 PM
Are you playing with ToB or with SoA? I had this problem all the time with SoA. I used to kick him out for a bit (Don't worry, the romance still goes on) and I don't talk to him. When I installed ToB things seem to calm down a bit. Still not 100% sure.
                   
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Blackfey on February 01, 2003, 11:19:26 PM
I'm playing SoA and don't have ToB. Did your crashes only happen when you initiated dialogue with him or at other times as well? What does kicking him out do exactly? Does he continue to initiate his own dialogues with you after that?                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Sphira on February 01, 2003, 11:35:34 PM
They would happen if I started dialouge or had him in my part for a period of time. I figured this out later in the game, just trust me. I don't want to say a spoiler. You just tell him to wait there, wander around with out him for a bit (don't finish the maze with out him of course), come back and pick him up.  Play until the game crashes again then load the closest save and kick him out, and pick him back up. The relationship will still be okay. The lovely drow takes so much abuse. :D                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Blackfey on February 02, 2003, 01:45:31 PM
Byt he time I read your post I had already completed the maze. Sola talked to me in the Underdark (spiders!) and the program did not crash. It still crashes if I attempt to initiate anything with him (guess I'll have to play hard to get in this romance).  If any more unexplained crashes happen I will kick him out as you suggested, and then ask him back.

BTW, is everything going to be OK with Sola in the Underdark? I read somewhere that I have to do something about his "clone".                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Userunfriendly on February 03, 2003, 03:21:52 AM
check the version number

the latest versions will not have a problem....

but the earlier versions, when you leave with the eggs, a second sola will spawn...cntr-y the second sola outside of ust natha who tries to join you, and you will be fine..                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Blackfey on February 04, 2003, 02:22:14 AM
Well, Sola is talking again but sure enough, the program predictably crashes shortly after each dialogue with him. I'm getting into the habit of saving right after I speak with him but I'd love a better solution.                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: weimer on February 04, 2003, 03:00:20 AM
Try this test:

Kick everyone but Sola out of your party, and then talk to him explicitly. Prediction: this time the game will not crash.

If you have a minute or two, see if you can find the smallest party such that Sola bantering crashes the game.

Let me know how it goes. If my prediction above is correct, I can give you a bunch of global variables that will stop the crashes (CLUAConsole or ShadowKeeper).                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Blackfey on February 05, 2003, 01:34:32 AM
Test completed.

Your prediction was correct. No crash when only Sola and myslef are in the party.

Also, no crash with Sola, myself and one other member. (3 total)

Crashes resume when I reach a party of 4.                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Blackfey on February 22, 2003, 10:03:11 PM
I just realized something else.  Sola has never bantered with anyone else in the party. He is supposed to do that isn't he? I've been playing for quite some time and have had about 10 conversations with him by now. When will he start bantering?

Still no word from Wes with regards to the global variable settings I need to change in order to fix my problem. I'm still hoping though.  :(                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: weimer on February 24, 2003, 12:12:54 AM
Grr. Would you be willing to send me a zip of a saved game where force-talking Sola causes the game to crash? (I've probably already asked you for this, actually).

Sola has two banters with every NPC. It looks like the game is crashing when he is trying to banter. You can probably eliminate this problem (at the expense of not seeing the banters) by doing:

CLUAConsole:SetGlobal("SolaDoneBanter","GLOBAL",3)

Keep us posted.                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Blackfey on February 25, 2003, 09:55:10 PM
OK, I have a zipped saved game ready to send to you but can't figure out how to attach it using the forum messenger system.

I am very curious about Sola's banters and would ideally like to play with them active. I'll turn off the banter variable if absolutely necessary but would rather find a better solution. As always, any help is great appreciated.                    
Title: Beginner Crash Problem
Post by: Blackfey on March 03, 2003, 09:21:19 PM
Stopping the banter via the global variable settings has indeed stopped the crashes. I suppose that's a good thing. I wish I could hear Sola's banter however.  It doesn't feel like he's integrated into the party.