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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 27, 2003, 08:41:40 PM
Since this pretty much got lost in our nonsense (Yes, I take my fair share of blame for that) over in the other thread, let's try to focus on keeping this one on the topic of flirting with the delicious drow, eh? :)

Wes, if we can come up with something that would work, would you be willing to implement it? :)

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Sola Flirt FAQ and updates will be going here too :)

2/7/03

The Solaufein flirt pack will let us finally flirt with our delicious drow. As of this date, it's still in the very early stages and I'm open to any thoughts, inspirations or suggestions posted in the thread or PM'd to me.  If you want to contribute but don't know if something has yet been written, please PM me as I don't want to spoil the surprise for those who'd rather not see every flirt :) I'll be updating this message as necessary if things are revised.

The flirts will be on at least two levels, possibly three. The first level is what we've been calling the "teaching" level, where Solaufein is learning what flirting is. While he may know intellectually from his reading, he can't have had much physical experience in Ust Natha. A little clumsiness would be natural in this situation, but we don't want to make our Sola look like a fool.

The second level will be with Sola being more confident, perhaps surprising the PC with his responses to the flirting. The third, well, I'm not really sure if there will be one, but I would think we might sneak in a few more detailed flirts into area, for towards the end of the game.

As for gender specific flirts, I can code those easily enough. If you can come up with one that works, I'll gladly put it in. If we do go that route, I'd like to keep them roughly even in number.  I believe I could also do class specific flirts, though I'm not sure we want to go crazy with those :)

How explicit.. well, let's try to keep it about at PG for now. I haven't heard from Wes on what he wants in this direction, so better safe than sorry.

If you want to write a flirt, you can PM it to me, or post ideas or thoughts in this thread. At the moment I'm doing what I call the more "common" ones myself (i.e. hand holding, the ones in about every flirt pack) but I'm more than happy to replace what I've written for them if someone comes up with something better.

If you have any questions, please post in the thread, and as I said, this FAQ will be revised as necessary.

Tsuru
                   



[!--EDIT|Tsuru|Feb 7 2003, 09:45 PM--]
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 28, 2003, 01:06:51 AM
Someone mentioned Sola's elf ears awhile ago, though I don't remember who. Maybe a conversatin with the PC asking Sola if it's true elf ears are sensitive to touch. Though I'm going to stop my line of thought since knowing me they'll turn naughty. :P

PC: Tell me Sola, is it true that an elf's ears are sensitive to touch? I already know that elves hear better than most, so I wanted to know if touch is also a sensitivity.

Any idea of how you wouldn't mind Sola responding to this Tsuru?                    



[!--EDIT|Amazor'dra|Jan 28 2003, 01:15 AM--]
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 28, 2003, 01:22:28 AM
*shy little look around* ..... Should I?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 28, 2003, 01:23:23 AM
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*shy little look around* ..... Should I?
                   Go for it.  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 28, 2003, 01:32:13 AM

This is written under the assumution that the *hopeful* flirt options show up only as a post nookie thing. If not well... you get an irrate and frustraed Sola. Hopefully this is a gender and short people equal flirt. :) And you get to manhandle him, too! *flees from Wes-sama's wraith*

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-PC Flirt Option for Solaufien-

-(Feeling curious about rumors that you’ve heard about elves, you sneak up behind Solaufien, running your tounge on the pointed tip of his ear giving it a slow and gentle lick.)

-Solaufien-

(You feel him shiver and he turns around to face you. His look isn't quite angry but it's one of the fiercest looks you've ever seen on him.) W-why did you do that? (Solaufien's voice is huskier than usual with his burning gaze focused on you.)

-PC-

- I-I'm sorry, I don't what came over me. I didn‘t mean to make you upset... {A}
- Trying to relax you, I guess I startled you. {B}
- A little bird said you might enjoy that. (Wicked smile.) {C}
- (You return his smoldering look with an 'innocent' smile.) {D}

-Solaufien-

A] No... just don't do that in -public- again, {CharName}. (Warily smiles.) I enjoyed that a little *too* much...
B] Let's just say it doesn't relax me, my dear, but the result of your experiment might be a good thing for *both* of us.
C] Your little bird was was correct.
D] (He slowly smiles back.) Infuriating little {girl/boy}, aren't you? (He uses the purring like tone that the others *never* hear from him.)

-
E] However, perhaps we'll bring up this subject into more depth when we don't have so many prying eyes...

-PC-

-I look forward to it *very* much.
-(You just smile sweetly.)

 {End}

==

Wasn't too awful, was it?  :ph34r:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 28, 2003, 01:38:50 AM
Good girl, I knew you could do it :)

I guess some could be unisex, and others specific for gender, like Kish (I think) suggested.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 28, 2003, 02:11:33 AM
Oh, I like! Good job Sphira!  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 28, 2003, 02:15:48 AM
Thank you! ^_^

Oh yeah! My emails sphira@hotmail.com There was a url you were going to send me, hopefully?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 28, 2003, 02:18:09 AM
Yes, there is a url. Though if I start talking about what kind of portrait attachment I was going to send Tsuru will hit me in the head again.  :P

Url heading your way in a seconds. ;)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Kismet on January 28, 2003, 11:48:27 AM
Speaking as someone who has a large number on her Kelsey flirt counter, I tend to enjoy the action/reaction flirts a lot more than the conversational flirts.  For me, it's more fun to do a specific action and get a random response than it is to have the same (similar) conversation over and over again.

Just my 2 cents.

~Kismet                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on January 28, 2003, 12:31:06 PM
You're right Kismet though it's nice to have some flirts that are longer than 2 sentences.  Then again I never romanced Kelsey so I have no idea what those flirts are like...  My experience with BG flirts begins and ends with Tashia and flirtpacks *hides in shame*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Kismet on January 28, 2003, 01:00:01 PM
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You're right Kismet though it's nice to have some flirts that are longer than 2 sentences.  Then again I never romanced Kelsey so I have no idea what those flirts are like...  My experience with BG flirts begins and ends with Tashia and flirtpacks *hides in shame*
                   Oh, I agree.  Variety is good!  I was just stating my preference for flirts to be more action oriented rather than conversation oriented.  Most of Kelsey's flirts are action/reaction, but they can go on for a while...namely the bathing flirts which go on for 6 or so continues.  And even in the ones where there is PC interaction I tend to pick the "action" option rather than the "conversation" option.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 28, 2003, 01:08:37 PM
I still like what Sphira wrote :) It might be expanded to include different options, or as I told her, it might also make a nice post-nookie banter.

                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on January 28, 2003, 01:28:56 PM
Guess we'll have to redirect our sweet smiles to Sphira then for her to make us such options.  *beams a smile at Sphira*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: jcompton on January 28, 2003, 03:00:22 PM
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You're right Kismet though it's nice to have some flirts that are longer than 2 sentences.  Then again I never romanced Kelsey so I have no idea what those flirts are like...  My experience with BG flirts begins and ends with Tashia and flirtpacks *hides in shame*
Everybody has different taste, but in all objective candor I think you haven't seen flirting until you've seen the original Compton Patented Flirt Technology. Kelsey, Aerie, Jaheira, and soon Viconia and Anomen.

(meaning if your only perspective on flirting in completed form is Tashia. I'm not passing judgement on scattered experimental Solaufein flirts here and there.)
                   



[!--EDIT|jcompton|Jan 28 2003, 03:17 PM--]
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on January 28, 2003, 03:34:03 PM
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Everybody has different taste, but in all objective candor I think you haven't seen flirting until you've seen the original Compton Patented Flirt Technology. Kelsey, Aerie, Jaheira, and soon Viconia and Anomen.
I second that.  The most important thing that JC does very well in all the flirts is that, whatever stage the romance is at and whatever option the PC chooses, the character being flirted with is always sharply delineated.  That, IMO, would be a very important point for developing Sola flirts as well.  The developer would have to have a very strong sense of how a "romantic" drow would think, feel and act in a variety of situations and stick with it.  That's what I like about Sphira's text;  she emphasizes a recognizable "Sola" reaction.                    



[!--EDIT|Hendryk|Jan 29 2003, 02:12 AM--]
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 28, 2003, 03:40:40 PM
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I second that.  The most important thing that JC does very well in all the flirst is that, whatever stage the romance is at and whatever option the PC chooses, the character being flirted with is always sharply delineated.  That, IMO, would be a very important point for developing Sola flirts as well.  The developer would have to have a very strong sense of how a "romantic" drow would think, feel and act in a variety of situations and stick with it.  That's what I like about Sphira's text;  she emphasizes a recognizable "Sola" reaction.
                   Absolutely. Different levels for different levels of committment. I believe it can be done, I really do. It's just a matter of getting them written and coded.

As for romantic drow... well, considering that most of what I read about them doesn't seem to have much romance, aren't we kind of in a new area here? But I think we all know Sola well enough to at least make an educated guess how *he* would act and react to certain things. A lot of the earlier ones would probably have him confused as to how to react, and later become more confident as he grows to understand flirting. And somehow I suspect the delicious drow will become *very* good at it ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on January 28, 2003, 04:03:02 PM
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As for romantic drow... well, considering that most of what I read about them doesn't seem to have much romance, aren't we kind of in a new area here? But I think we all know Sola well enough to at least make an educated guess how *he* would act and react to certain things. A lot of the earlier ones would probably have him confused as to how to react, and later become more confident as he grows to understand flirting. And somehow I suspect the delicious drow will become *very* good at it ;)
                   Right.  The drow might not be "romantic" per se but they certainly have an elaborate set of customs and taboos governing relations between the sexes.  So the first question for Sola would be, "How much of this baggage is he still lugging around in the form of unquestioned assumption?"  Even given his earlier involvement with Phaere, I'd guess quite a lot - and flirts could be a fun way of untangling much of it.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 28, 2003, 04:23:18 PM

First I’d like to thank people again for the compliment. It was merely just a cute suggestion more than anything. :)

The noted flirt is more for it happens in a more public area rather than the PC and Sola being alone. Technically this is one or more ‘innocent’ flirts if someone wrote more. It's my opinion that Solaufien isn't an open person about his affections in public. As Hendryk said, Sola's society frowns on male sexuality as many culture do with female sexuality. I don't know if this holds true for second edition but in one issue of Dragon magazine (I think December‘s) they had an issue on drow and In one of the articles said while female drow could sleep with nearly whomever they wanted including people from other races, male drow could *not* or be severely punished.  The relationship with the PC is fully against what Solaufien’s used to. That's why it's hard and unfair to compare Kesley (and the other chars) and Solaufien on terms of affection or flirting.

The flirt I posted had a set time frame in mind despite not mentioning what time specifically. Notably it’s a post nookie flirt and that’s after dealing with Aychlessa and the revenge spiders as well as getting Eilistraee’s blessing. He’s now at a comfort level with the PC that the PC can flirt with out Solaufien getting an under dark relapse of how things might of been for him. If the PC dared to try that before hand, I would safely say it would freak out Sola too much and he wouldn‘t trust the PC enough. I guess it’s like sleeping with Viccy too soon, the PC isn’t much different from any other person Viccy (or Sola) has meet in the under dark. Also, Sola has the problem of being bisexual/gender equal. He can't do much to the PC with out making the mod more complex.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: weimer on January 28, 2003, 05:51:09 PM
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Wes, if we can come up with something that would work, would you be willing to implement it? :)
                   Yes. For example, the ear flirt seems fine.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 28, 2003, 05:52:09 PM
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Yes. For example, the ear flirt seems fine.
                   Thank you, Wes :)

Ok, let's really get going here! :D
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Kiki on January 28, 2003, 06:11:58 PM
Wow, Sola's actually going to get a smu--er, flirt pack! Will wonders never cease.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 28, 2003, 08:04:49 PM
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Yes. For example, the ear flirt seems fine.
                   It is? *beams* Thank you!                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 28, 2003, 08:18:43 PM
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So the first question for Sola would be, "How much of this baggage is he still lugging around in the form of unquestioned assumption?"  Even given his earlier involvement with Phaere, I'd guess quite a lot - and flirts could be a fun way of untangling much of it.
                   Good point. Two levels of flirts are usual, the pre-committed ones and the commited ones. I'm not sure if we shouldn't go for three, having one be the "get Sola over whatever baggage is there". Thoughts?
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 28, 2003, 08:30:00 PM
Hmmm......maybe this could be the point where the PC can ask about Sola's family, then an option could be a way to comfort him. (Hey, who knows?) It probably wont bring the the PC and Sola together 'physically', but emotionally it can.

Or even ask him about his experience bedside with the drow perhaps, and how little it had to do with any actual love? Or even how different the love of a surfacer is compaired to it....?

But it may be just me rambling again.  :ph34r:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Caedwyr on January 28, 2003, 08:36:19 PM
Something that I like very much about the Forgotten Wars flirt packs, is the somewhat random nature of the responses.  You can frequently get different responses to the same flirt while not having progressed in the romance.  The reactions of the characters seem much more genuine, as they aren't following the 'click this flirt, for this response.'  

If a flirt option is included for Solaufein, then it would be nice if the same technique were used.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 28, 2003, 08:37:51 PM
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If a flirt option is included for Solaufein, then it would be nice if the same technique were used.
                   That's the plan :) I think we're also getting some ideas that would be best as dialogue, which is also a good thing.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 28, 2003, 08:52:08 PM
*downloading said flirts as we speak for insperation/comparison* Well, hopefully the tactics will be the same as Forgotten Wars. I for one would like to see some -deeper- stuff in these flirts in the non-commited level.  But another factor is gender, too.   :blink:  This is gonna be fun. :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 28, 2003, 09:26:53 PM
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*downloading said flirts as we speak for insperation/comparison* Well, hopefully the tactics will be the same as Forgotten Wars. I for one would like to see some -deeper- stuff in these flirts in the non-commited level.  But another factor is gender, too.   :blink:  This is gonna be fun. :P
                   Yep, that it is :)

Now about some more options for the infamous ear flirt... *ducks and runs from Sphira*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 28, 2003, 09:40:08 PM
Uhm... *blushes* Once I get the sematics/workings of Kesley's flirts, you'll see more. Because I don't have a lot of ideas how the flirts occurces and such. *has an idea for another one* Of course it's more man handeling of our dear drow but this one certianly leads to more...                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 28, 2003, 09:42:31 PM
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Uhm... *blushes* Once I get the sematics/workings of Kesley's flirts, you'll see more. Because I don't have a lot of ideas how the flirts occurces and such. *has an idea for another one* Of course it's more man handeling of our dear drow but this one certianly leads to more...
                   Don't worry about the coding, sweetie, just worry about the writing :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 29, 2003, 04:24:26 AM
Ok that's one.. ideas, flirts, thoughts, anyone? :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on January 29, 2003, 08:12:14 AM
Well, like I said earlier, the palms of the hands are meant to be quite sensitive as well.  Now I probably haven't seen everything of Sola's romance :ph34r: but it seems to me that he doesn't know all the surfacer habits.  One of those that he might see somebody use to court a woman is kissing her hand.  He could try this out for himself later, giving you a chance to get to his hands...  

Probably a bad idea but an idea nonetheless :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 29, 2003, 03:20:55 PM
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Well, like I said earlier, the palms of the hands are meant to be quite sensitive as well.  Now I probably haven't seen everything of Sola's romance :ph34r: but it seems to me that he doesn't know all the surfacer habits.  One of those that he might see somebody use to court a woman is kissing her hand.  He could try this out for himself later, giving you a chance to get to his hands...  
                   Perhaps... care to write something up? *ducks* :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Michel on January 29, 2003, 04:28:25 PM
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Ok that's one.. ideas, flirts, thoughts, anyone? :)
How about my poem?


Roses are [span style='color:red']red
Violets are blue
I am a Bard
And you know it's true!
[/i][/span]


 :lol:  B)  :P                    



[!--EDIT|Michel|Jan 30 2003, 02:30 AM--]
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 29, 2003, 04:30:47 PM
*swat* Go stand in the corner, young man. :P

I think some of the "usual" flirts would work with Sola, but I suspect it would be far better trying for unusual ones. C'mon, a little inspiration here, please :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Michel on January 29, 2003, 04:32:13 PM
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*swat* Go stand in the corner, young man. :P

I think some of the "usual" flirts would work with Sola, but I suspect it would be far better trying for unusual ones. C'mon, a little inspiration here, please :)
                   *goes off to find a  B)  poem that acts as inspiration*

I'll be back! :P  :o  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: L_Jonté on January 29, 2003, 05:40:30 PM
When I am dead, my dearest,
   Sing no sad songs for me;
Plant thou no roses at my head,
   Nor shady cypress tree:
Be the green grass above me
   With showers and dewdrops wet;
And if thou wilt, remember,
   And if thou wilt, forget.

I shall not see the shadows,
   I shall not feel the rain;
I shall not hear the nightingale
   Sing on, as if in pain:
And dreaming through the twilight
   That doth not rise nor set,
Haply I may remember,
   And haply may forget.

-Christina Rossetti

Hmmm... perhaps not the insipiration you were looking for.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 29, 2003, 05:42:21 PM
It's a little bit morbid, I think, Lisa-sama. ^_^                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 29, 2003, 05:46:56 PM
Well, if nothing else, it fits my mood today. *smacks self and tries to get back into flirt mode*
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 29, 2003, 05:55:56 PM
Oh, the poem may be good for when Sola joins the side of Bodhi for a brief time. Or even directly afterwords. In a way, it could reveal of how an inner part of Sola didn't like what he became at Bodhi's side. (and through the use of this poem, he asks the PC to forget/forgive what he is, though the majority of him had a fine time becoming powerfull with Bodhi's help)

Hopefully my comment makes sense and proves helpfull.  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Michel on January 29, 2003, 06:24:33 PM
A friend is someone we turn to
when our spirits need a lift,
A friend is someone we treasure
for our friendship is a gift.
A friend is someone who fills our lives
with beauty, joy, and grace
And makes the whole world we live in
a better and happier place.

- Jean Kyler McManus

I am a rose, you are my thorns,
clutching to me, protecting me.
I am the sun, you are my rays,
helping me to shine and to be all that I can.
I am a lake, you are my water,
filling me with ideas, dreams, and hopes for the future.
I am a tree, you are my leaves,
sharing who and what I am
and becoming an important part of my life.
I am a heart, you are my beat,
beating rhythmically to my happiness,
my fear, my sadness, my excitement.
I am me and you are with me,
to share all that I am,
to share life, love, and happiness.

Always.

- Bernice Ellrick -

I'm getting soft here! ;)  (I still don't like wink smiley here :()                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 29, 2003, 06:28:30 PM
Oh. My. Goodness. I think I hear my muse stirring. :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 29, 2003, 06:43:21 PM
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I'm getting soft here! ;)  (I still don't like wink smiley here :()
                   Awww, what a romantic. ^_^                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Kiki on January 29, 2003, 07:41:31 PM
To bring an offline conversation online ...

I don't much like the idea of gender-specific flirts. I think anything that requires gender specificity is going to be too explicit for my taste.  What is the intended rating of the flirt pack?

Plus, it seems like the flirt pack concept originally developed as a way to initiate things with the NPC, for those players that wanted to kiss/grope/gnaw their romantic interest, so the PC's gender shouldn't matter much. (Although "original intent" shouldn't be a limiting factor, I suppose.)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 29, 2003, 08:26:32 PM
This is Tsuru-sama's call, but I wouldn't think the flirts will be too graphic. Quite honestly, I think it shouldn't be anywhere like the Kesley/Bioware flirts... But I do like the idea of intinating things with Sola. The 'talk back' (aka "flirt") format could help the RP value of drawing Solaufien out into surface society. Sure, it's nice to manhandle the guy, but it does get boring after a while. It's the character's 'mind' and 'intellgence' that the fans love. :D

                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 29, 2003, 08:33:29 PM
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This is Tsuru-sama's call, but I wouldn't think the flirts will be too graphic. Quite honestly, I think it shouldn't be anywhere like the Kesley/Bioware flirts... But I do like the idea of intinating things with Sola. The 'talk back' (aka "flirt") format could help the RP value of drawing Solaufien out into surface society. Sure, it's nice to manhandle the guy, but it does get boring after a while. It's the character's 'mind' and 'intellgence' that the fans love. :D
                   Actually it's Wes's call, I'm just coordinating :)

I had another thought too. Would y'all think that later, after committment and when he's comfortable so to speak, that he would initiate flirts also?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 30, 2003, 03:27:19 AM
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Awww, what a romantic. ^_^
                   I do believe we actually managed to embarass Michel... but I still loved those poems :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on January 30, 2003, 12:33:57 PM
eeep
International day of Poetry or sth like that here today, they've been throwing poems at me all day and still it's you to actually get through to me.  :unsure:  :blink:
*ahem cough*
I don't think that making the flirts gender specific should necessarily make them TOO explicit.  Besides it's your minds that have to write the dialogs so you can make it as explicit as you wish...  
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Perhaps... care to write something up? *ducks*
well... no, I'm bad at writing dialog but this I won't even try to write.  B) You're always welcome to try and write sth of it tho, just as long as I get to read it when you finish.  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 30, 2003, 01:24:31 PM
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well... no, I'm bad at writing dialog but this I won't even try to write.  B) You're always welcome to try and write sth of it tho, just as long as I get to read it when you finish.  :P
                   Uh huh. Never know till you try :P

I truly don't know about explicit. The more I think about it, the more I think it's not Sola to be very explicit. We'll see what happens as others chime in :)

And I think the muses like the poetry being posted personally ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on January 30, 2003, 04:43:58 PM
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I truly don't know about explicit. The more I think about it, the more I think it's not Sola to be very explicit. We'll see what happens as others chime in :)
                   Hmno but what would you call explicit ?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 30, 2003, 05:43:35 PM
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Hmno but what would you call explicit ?
                   Somewhat less than Kelsey flirts *fans herself at the memory*

Sometimes things are best left to the imagination and the delicious drow *does* stir that up. ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on January 30, 2003, 08:47:31 PM
I have to agree with Tsuru; Sola doesn't strike me as the type to be very explicit.
My feeling is that he would be uncomfortable with flirting at first, perhaps even a little confused, and even if he became more comfortable with the idea, he wouldn't be comfortable showing a lot of affection in public, like Kelsey is.

(Sorry about not quoting your post, Tsuru, but I've just recently de-lurked and I'm afraid I don't quite have the hang of things yet... :) )                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 30, 2003, 08:49:14 PM
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I have to agree with Tsuru; Sola doesn't strike me as the type to be very explicit.
My feeling is that he would be uncomfortable with flirting at first, perhaps even a little confused, and even if he became more comfortable with the idea, he wouldn't be comfortable showing a lot of affection in public, like Kelsey is.

(Sorry about not quoting your post, Tsuru, but I've just recently de-lurked and I'm afraid I don't quite have the hang of things yet... :) )
                   Welcome, Athena :) Don't worry, it can take a bit to get used to things.

If you have any ideas for flirts, or dialgoues, please feel free to chime in. We love inspiration here  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Kish on January 30, 2003, 08:59:27 PM
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(Sorry about not quoting your post, Tsuru, but I've just recently de-lurked and I'm afraid I don't quite have the hang of things yet... :) )
Just click on Quote in the upper righthand corner of the post you want to quote, instead of clicking Add Reply.                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 30, 2003, 09:01:26 PM
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Just click on Quote in the upper righthand corner of the post you want to quote, instead of clicking Add Reply.
Oops.. thanks, Kish. What can I say, I just got off work and my brain isn't working yet ;)

..and no smartalec comments from the peanut gallery please :P                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on January 30, 2003, 09:37:12 PM
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Just click on Quote in the upper righthand corner of the post you want to quote, instead of clicking Add Reply.
Oh! I should have noticed that. Thanks, Kish!                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 30, 2003, 09:42:18 PM
You need to put this at the beginning of what it is you want to quote [ QUOTE ]. Then, at the end of it you need to type [ /QUOTE ] , without the spaces in between the [] and what is inside.

(*sighs* I'm just too slow when it comes to posting) :P                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on January 30, 2003, 09:47:46 PM
Thanks anyway, Amazor'dra. :) I love your name. How did you come up with it?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 30, 2003, 09:49:45 PM
It's the altered name of Amazora, a name that means Threatening Skye in Japanese. (Okay, so I'm really not that threatening....)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 30, 2003, 09:50:53 PM
*ahem* :)

Where were we?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 30, 2003, 09:53:21 PM
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*ahem* :)

Where were we?
                   Portraits...?

*runs away*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on January 30, 2003, 09:56:17 PM
You were considering how bawdy to make the Sola flirts.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 30, 2003, 09:57:57 PM
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You were considering how bawdy to make the Sola flirts.
                   Oh yeah.. more input needed :) Thanks, toots.

(Yeah, yeah, I know, this from one of the queens of Sola-topic hijacking :P )                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 30, 2003, 10:02:38 PM
*rubs sore spot on her head*

Why not make a compromise? Very light teasing at the beginning and once you feel Sola has gotten used it to, then step it up a notch. It would probably be a bad idea to make any serious moves on Sola at the very beginning, but it doesn't mean it can't lead up to it.
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on January 30, 2003, 10:07:56 PM
Sola is a most unusual drow but still a drow.  So it's back to my old question:  "How do the drow handle such matters?"  Do they 'flirt' at all?  Maybe the PC would have to explain flirting first before getting any reaction other than annoyance/confusion.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 30, 2003, 10:10:37 PM
*scribbles a note in her ideas file* Yes, I'm keeping a file, complete with whose idea, and who wrote what flirt :)

                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 30, 2003, 10:13:50 PM
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Sola is a most unusual drow but still a drow.  So it's back to my old question:  "How do the drow handle such matters?"  Do they 'flirt' at all?  Maybe the PC would have to explain flirting first before getting any reaction other than annoyance/confusion.
Hmmm.....from what I've read out of the first Drizzt books(when he was still in the Underdark). When any new priestesses of Lloth received their first snake whip they had these mass.....orgies. Males didn't have much of a choice in them, and most of the time a male's survival depended on how well they served Matron Mothers and other females. So Sola could have known quite a bit about flirting, though outside of the Lloth celebrations any sign of affection was kept in private.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 30, 2003, 10:16:31 PM
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Hmmm.....from what I've read out of the first Drizzt books(when he was still in the Underdark). When any new priestesses of Lloth received their first snake whip they had these mass.....orgies. Males didn't have much of a choice in them, and most of the time a male's survival depended on how well they served Matron Mothers and other females. So Sola could have known quite a bit about flirting, though outside of the Lloth celebrations any sign of affection was kept in private.
                   I'm not sure that would be considered flirting, but it could certainly have an impact on how he views relationships. Definitely a thought for an earlier flirt :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on January 30, 2003, 10:57:09 PM
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You were considering how bawdy to make the Sola flirts.
Oh yeah.. more input needed :) Thanks, toots.

A lady calling a gentleman "toots"?  And the head of the Sola Flirt Dept. no less?  This *will* be interesting.
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 30, 2003, 11:01:28 PM
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A lady calling a gentleman "toots"?  And the head of the Sola Flirt Dept. no less?  This *will* be interesting.
                   I'm a wanton trollop, remember ;)

And yes, this *is* going to be interesting if it's the last thing I do  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 30, 2003, 11:30:18 PM
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Hmmm.....from what I've read out of the first Drizzt books(when he was still in the Underdark). When any new priestesses of Lloth received their first snake whip they had these mass.....orgies. Males didn't have much of a choice in them, and most of the time a male's survival depended on how well they served Matron Mothers and other females. So Sola could have known quite a bit about flirting, though outside of the Lloth celebrations any sign of affection was kept in private.
                   Which is one of the reasons why I wouldn't mind seperate gender flirts. Women equal punishment in drow society and if a female PC did something VERY risque in the early relationship it SHOULD frighten him off. I'd think he'd be more comfertable flirting with a male PC, or at the least it wouldn't scare him quite as much.  -_-

But that whole bit of Lloth priestesses, it made me wonder what exactly Imrae did to him...  :unsure:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 30, 2003, 11:38:31 PM
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But that whole bit of Lloth priestesses, it made me wonder what exactly Imrae did to him...  :unsure:
                   Handmaidens are known for their cruelty with a snake whip and their over-the-top hatred for males, even more so than other female drow. Any kind of treatment from a Handmaiden wont be pleasant....... :(                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 30, 2003, 11:48:04 PM
Ah, touchy subject then.  :(                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 30, 2003, 11:50:22 PM
Because of this though, a female taking an interest in Sola without any compunction to force him to do anything could both startle and be a nice change. The same thing could be thought of if a male PC flirted with him since there was always that constant rivalry going on.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 31, 2003, 01:48:40 AM
This is what I'm thinking so far. The flirts will start out light, almost not really flirts at all, just accustoming, or teaching, Sola what flirting is. Letting him get more comfortable with the idea that there can be affection between him and the PC outside the bedroom. This could entail several choices on the flirts, or several levels of the flirts. And there's always the possibility (Yes, I'm stealing from Jason again, but he's used to that ;) ) that he may not respond as you'd think to a flirt, especially early on.

As to the explicit nature, I think we're pretty much all agreed that it shouldn't be extremely so, though maybe a naughty one or two could be put in? Hey, I'm a founding WW, what do you expect from me?  :P

I think we're making a good start here, everyone :)

Oh yes. This isn't written in stone, this is just the sense I've gotten from the posts so far :) I do think some of the ideas would be good as banter.                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on January 31, 2003, 10:42:03 AM
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Which is one of the reasons why I wouldn't mind seperate gender flirts. Women equal punishment in drow society and if a female PC did something VERY risque in the early relationship it SHOULD frighten him off. I'd think he'd be more comfertable flirting with a male PC, or at the least it wouldn't scare him quite as much.
He would be frightened of what might happen, but I think he would go along till he realises again that he's no longer among drow...  Old habits die hard and he has been in there for a long long time.  
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(*sighs* I'm just too slow when it comes to posting)
Hmno I'm slower and I manage to keep up with the conversations more or less.  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 31, 2003, 02:29:35 PM
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(*sighs* I'm just too slow when it comes to posting)
Hmno I'm slower and I manage to keep up with the conversations more or less.  :P
Oh dear, yet another bratty man....

::takes out Hammer of Thunderbolt Pillows +5 and gives Niz a good, electric thwap that leaves him crispy::

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As to the explicit nature, I think we're pretty much all agreed that it shouldn't be extremely so, though maybe a naughty one or two could be put in? Hey, I'm a founding WW, what do you expect from me?

Oh, most definitely, but best saved at the end of the flirts. The ear dialogue of Sphira's would be a good middle ground.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 31, 2003, 02:47:47 PM
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Oh, most definitely, but best saved at the end of the flirts. The ear dialogue of Sphira's would be a good middle ground.
                   That's about what I was thinking :)

Anyone else got any flirts to share yet? Little hint on writing. They're not difficult as dialogue to my mind. You can have up to 4 reactions to your initial flirt, though 2 or 3 can also be done. 4 is best for the randomness though.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on January 31, 2003, 04:33:07 PM
Hmm I'd think Sphira's ear thingy more to the start.  Sola's response is more like that of someone that's unfamiliar with flirts so that suggests you haven't done a lot to him yet.  
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::takes out Hammer of Thunderbolt Pillows +5 and gives Niz a good, electric thwap that leaves him crispy::
I'm the kind of conjurer that fries half his party with fireballs if it'll do more damage to the enemy, I'm getting used to being crispy.  :P
*looks at a prismatic blade spell scroll* Nah, I'm not that mean... I think...  [_[                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 31, 2003, 04:41:17 PM
*swats Niz and sends him and his pillow to Michel's topic*

*ahem*  :rolleyes:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on January 31, 2003, 05:30:46 PM
*Crispy look at Tsuru*
The evidence of me not starting this is right in front of you. :P

Anyway I'll try to leave going off-topic to you as for what this post is concerned... good enough ? B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on January 31, 2003, 08:03:41 PM
I think another idea to get us started is when the flirts should be 'enabled' I guess. My vote is after the golem/prophecy/hand holding chat. *nods*
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on January 31, 2003, 08:20:27 PM
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This is what I'm thinking so far. The flirts will start out light, almost not really flirts at all, just accustoming, or teaching, Sola what flirting is. Letting him get more comfortable with the idea that there can be affection between him and the PC outside the bedroom. This could entail several choices on the flirts, or several levels of the flirts. And there's always the possibility (Yes, I'm stealing from Jason again, but he's used to that ;) ) that he may not respond as you'd think to a flirt, especially early on.
I think this idea definitely works best. It allows for the fact that Sola in all likelihood has probably never been exposed to the idea of flirting before, and it allows for him to change as he becomes more comfortable with flirts, the PC, and his life on the surface.

As for timing, I have to agree with Sphira. Either after the prophecy talk or the dance seems like a good time to enable flirts.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 31, 2003, 09:48:56 PM
Numberwise, the golem chat for Sola is between where flirts for Kelsey start and the ones for Morgan start. (Can't speak for the female NPC's, I don't play those romances). But you do get Sola later than either of them :) It does seem like a good place to start to me also. *goes to check files*

Oddly enough, looking at the file, the golem talk is the talk after where I'd put it to start, but that's easily changed. Now, once it's decided if there are to be two or three levels, the others can be decided.



                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on January 31, 2003, 10:02:37 PM
Okay. Anything I can do to help at the moment?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 31, 2003, 10:06:45 PM
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Okay. Anything I can do to help at the moment?
                   Yes. Come up with a flirt or two  B)

*goes wandering off in search of her muse who should be perfectly delighted to have both the delicious drow and Morgan to work on*
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on January 31, 2003, 10:26:44 PM
Hmm...flirts...flirts...I really wouldn't mind having the chance to say 'I love you.'
That's all I can think of for now, but I'll keep thinking about it.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 31, 2003, 10:29:18 PM
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Hmm...flirts...flirts...I really wouldn't mind having the chance to say 'I love you.'
That's all I can think of for now, but I'll keep thinking about it.
                   Yes, that's one option on all the flirts :) We just need to figure out how Sola would react.. four ways ;)

                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on January 31, 2003, 10:36:42 PM
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Hmm...flirts...flirts...I really wouldn't mind having the chance to say 'I love you.'
That's all I can think of for now, but I'll keep thinking about it.
Yes, that's one option on all the flirts :) We just need to figure out how Sola would react.. four ways ;)
Maybe not your looking for exactly, but...

Option 1: The mushy responce.(ex. the 'I love you')

Option 2: The disgusted responce.(ex. 'Don't you DARE touch me like that again!)

Option 3: The surprised responce.(ex. Never saw *that* coming!)

Option 4: The indifferent responce.(ex. This is nothing new.)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on January 31, 2003, 11:13:59 PM
I know there are more lurkers out there reading this thread :) If you're too shy to post, or don't want your idea public, feel free to PM me. I don't bite, really.

Well, only under certain circumstances, but this isn't one of them ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on February 01, 2003, 01:12:20 AM
I hope *this* isn't one of those times.

PC initiates flirst by "Shyly slipping a Girdle of Class Change about Solaufein's lean waist."

Sola responds by randomly changing into a Blade, a Skald, a Jester or ...
A BARD!                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 01, 2003, 01:24:46 AM
:lol: Michel must of taken over his mind! :P                    



[!--EDIT|Sphira|Feb 1 2003, 09:25 AM--]
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 01, 2003, 01:31:29 AM
Eeeeek! Even *I* can handle only one Michel!

Hendryk, you evil man, c'mere ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Michel on February 01, 2003, 07:46:45 AM
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I hope *this* isn't one of those times.

PC initiates flirst by "Shyly slipping a Girdle of Class Change about Solaufein's lean waist."

Sola responds by randomly changing into a Blade, a Skald, a Jester or ...
A BARD!
                   I told you to get out of my head!!  :lol:  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 01, 2003, 05:45:06 PM
Naughty boys. Hmph. :P

For that, I want flirt ideas from you both  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Userunfriendly on February 01, 2003, 08:29:59 PM
just for you blatant cheaters....

try sola as a kensai conjuror..

(yes it can be done....)

with moonblade and ray, he becomes a one npc nightmare, especially with d door... :lol:  :o  :D  :rolleyes:  :blink:

but yeah, i can see how some people who are into role playing think he should be a bard due to all the poetry he spouts at the drop of a axe...

but really folks....

a bard is suppose to spout doggerel and songs...


but sola does not do doggerel, he collects profound and meaningful verse...

so it actually makes him more realistic as a fighter mage, the mage part the touch of esoteric...and fighter, or warrior...

he simply follows the tradition of talesein, the warrior poet from arthurian mythos....

and the samurai traditions, where to be a true warrior and rounded person, a samurai must know caligraphy, poetry and music...

see????

it makes far far deeper sense for sola to remain fighter mage...

 :P  B)  :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Michel on February 01, 2003, 08:35:13 PM
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just for you blatant cheaters....

try sola as a kensai conjuror..

(yes it can be done....)

with moonblade and ray, he becomes a one npc nightmare, especially with d door... :lol:  :o  :D  :rolleyes:  :blink:

but yeah, i can see how some people who are into role playing think he should be a bard due to all the poetry he spouts at the drop of a axe...

but really folks....

a bard is suppose to spout doggerel and songs...


but sola does not do doggerel, he collects profound and meaningful verse...

so it actually makes him more realistic as a fighter mage, the mage part the touch of esoteric...and fighter, or warrior...

he simply follows the tradition of talesein, the warrior poet from arthurian mythos....

and the samurai traditions, where to be a true warrior and rounded person, a samurai must know caligraphy, poetry and music...

see????

it makes far far deeper sense for sola to remain fighter mage...

 :P  B)  :)
                   Awww, you had a nice dream eh UU? :lol:  B)  :P  Too bad reality makes Sola a Bard :o  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 01, 2003, 09:15:27 PM
I think Michel has a thing for bards. :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 01, 2003, 09:19:45 PM
But the whole topic is on flirts with Solaufien. Let's keep it at that. *ponders if it's universally accepted that Sola has longish hair or not* Yep, I'm that bored. :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 01, 2003, 09:21:59 PM
Long hair was a sign of drow station (according to Drizzt books). the only reason why Jarlaxle kept himself bald is because he believed he was out side of such rules.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 01, 2003, 09:24:41 PM
*nods* So that's why he's bald. So shorter hair was for commoners then or vise versa?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 01, 2003, 09:35:17 PM
I believe so, it was one way of having your station known to those who see you if your House Sigil on the pwifiwi(or however you spell it) is not readily seen. It's not really an 'official' law of drow. But it's definitely frowned apon if a drow from a powerfull house kept their hair short.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 01, 2003, 09:42:10 PM
*glares at Use and Michel*

Perhaps a nice flirt playing with Sola's long hair.. hmmmmm...  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 01, 2003, 09:47:52 PM
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Perhaps a nice flirt playing with Sola's long hair.. hmmmmm...  B)
                   ......pestering Sola until he lets you run his hands through his hair.....it would be a very cute scene.

(Nice.)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 01, 2003, 09:54:37 PM
Something along those lines, yes... yummy ;)

Course it would probably be one of the middle to later ones, methinks.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Userunfriendly on February 02, 2003, 12:09:09 AM
back to the samurai bit....

didnt samurai have to have long hair to braid into a top knot???

and when a samurai tired of the sword, and the killing, and become a priest, he has to shave off the top knot...thus in

yoshigawa (?)'s epic

"musashi"

(i highly recommend the book, its only 1200 pages long....)

there are references to musashi, or takezo, being suggested he shave his head and become a priest, the shaving being a metaphor for discarding the warrior virtues and embracing a life of contemplation and peace...

emasculation....in a way...

so jax having shaved his head may be symbolic defeat by drow society, and in his mind he is not surrendering to drow heritage, but symbolically embracing the stigmata of drowish emasculation and then turning it into his own symbol of rebellion and defiance...

yes, i too am very bored :blink:  :unsure:  :)  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 02, 2003, 12:14:29 AM
I have two lovely flirts now by Sphira, and some initiation ideas from another. And a few floating in my head that I have yet to write down. Anyone else? :)

And "Another" just gave me another lovely flirt ;)
                   



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 02, 2003, 02:10:22 PM
I just had a random thought, prompted by something "Another" sent me. Perhaps a dialogue in which the PC and Sola discuss the differences in surfacer and drow behavior, in which flirting is mentioned. This could be inserted in as the starting point for the flirts to begin, as "teaching". Thoughts?



                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: naco72 on February 02, 2003, 02:52:49 PM
Another dialog one like the raven\kiss and him confessing it was an excuse so that the PC woud to do it again?
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 02, 2003, 02:56:20 PM
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Another dialog one like the raven\kiss and him confessing it was an excuse so that the PC woud to do it again?
                   A little earlier than that dialogue. I'm still pondering over this one :
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: naco72 on February 02, 2003, 03:09:55 PM
He is just a drow man!!
He can question why  PC treat him like something else then that?

                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 02, 2003, 03:17:58 PM
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He is just a drow man!!
He can question why  PC treat him like something else then that?
                   Yes, that's a definite factor in all this. His mindset has already been changed somewhat by the time you meet Wes's Sola and bring him into the party, but there are probably hundreds of years of being treated as a toy for females to overcome ingrained in his mind.

One of these days we have to find out how old he really is :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 02, 2003, 03:22:07 PM
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I just had a random thought, prompted by something "Another" sent me. Perhaps a dialogue in which the PC and Sola discuss the differences in surfacer and drow behavior, in which flirting is mentioned. This could be inserted in as the starting point for the flirts to begin, as "teaching". Thoughts?
I think the teaching would only be possible to go into flirting if the PC demonstrated it when sola asks "what do you mean exactly".  Doesn't seem like sola to just ask for a demonstration of the teachings.
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One of these days we have to find out how old he really is
What would he be without his mysterious nature ? :)                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 02, 2003, 03:26:01 PM
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I think the teaching would only be possible to go into flirting if the PC demonstrated it when sola asks "what do you mean exactly".  Doesn't seem like sola to just ask for a demonstration of the teachings.
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One of these days we have to find out how old he really is
What would he be without his mysterious nature ? :)
                   Right. What I mean is that this conversation would be where the early flirts would begin, rather than at the golem chat, the point where you can right click him and the flirt menu would come up instead of nothing. And perhaps another special one later on to begin the later flirts.

Since when are men mysterious about their ages, that's a woman's job ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 02, 2003, 03:27:45 PM
You can strip a woman of the mystery surrounding her age and she'd come up with 10 other things to be mysterious about in less than an hour, a man however... ;)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 02, 2003, 03:51:46 PM
Here we go. The wonderful "Another" has come up with this rough draft of a banter that's just about what I was talking about :)

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Sola: Is something caught in your eye, CHARNAME?

PC: No.

Sola: Then why do you grimace so?

PC: It’s called winking.

Sola: I see. And what is the import of this?

PC: Don’t the drow wink? How do they signal a …possible…interest in one another?

Sola: Hah! Females of rank dispatch a squad of armed guards to escort the selected one thither. Commoners usually begin negotiations through their elders.

PC: But that’s for formal liaisons, surely? What about more … casual interest?

Sola: Amongst us, no interest is “casual”. Each whim is pursued as though it were the only goal in the universe – while it lasts.

PC: Nothing conditional? No “what ifs” or maybes”? How do your people … flirt, for example.

Sola: Ah! In my readings I have had encountered references to ‘flirtation’ but I have never clearly understood the term. What does it mean?

PC: With us, it’s a sort of behavior, I’d guess you’d say, designed to explore…possibilities…in relation to another. Gestures, like winking, tones of voice, postures…they’re all as important as the actual words.

Sola: Hmmm. I can see the necessity for such conditional modes here on the surface. In Ust Natha, everything is tightly circumscribed – as much by physical constraint as anything. Strangers are extremely rare – save as slaves or enemies. Here, however, meeting strangers – without hostility – is a daily commonplace. It is so wide…and fluid. Almost unnerving, if one concentrates on it.


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Thoughts?

                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 02, 2003, 03:54:06 PM
Looks like a good start. :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Kismet on February 02, 2003, 04:59:46 PM
It sounds good.  Just needs a bit of cleaning up (e.g. a daily commonplace should be either "commonplace" or "a daily occurance").  In my opinion when flirting gestures, postures, tones of voice are frequently more important than the actual words.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 02, 2003, 05:02:19 PM
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In my opinion when flirting gestures, postures, tones of voice are frequently more important than the actual words.
                   I agree, Kismet. In fact, I'm working on the more "common" flirts now (those being the ones that are in about every flirt pack) and they're more gestures/actions than words :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 03, 2003, 12:03:47 AM
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One of these days we have to find out how old he really is :)
                   Bordem strikes again! :D

I say Sola's a lot older than the age of 100, which seems to be the equivelant age of like... persay, 18? Maybe younger? That's pretty young judging by the insult he gives if you don't give him your 'drow' name or take time in saying it.

I opt for anything over the age of 25 to 30. He strikes one as too mature to be much older than Viccy but not so old that he can still fight well and hasn't been tied down by anyone else yet after Phaere was finished with him.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Kish on February 03, 2003, 01:36:44 AM
I'd say he's older than that--somewhere between 300 and 500.  Drow don't do "tied down" except in the literal sense.  Being useful in ways other than sexual would prevent Solaufein from becoming a female's "consort" toy to be discarded, and in normal drow society, that's the only long-term official sexual relationship a male is likely to get into.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 03, 2003, 02:42:50 AM
Hmm...elves are considered one of the longest living species--unless you are undead-- at least in regards to BG2. So unless the PC is also an elf, wouldn't either Sola or the PC mention what they would do if the other died before them?

If the PC isn't an elf shouldn't he/she bring up the likely possibility that Sola will out-live the PC?

*pokes her half-asleep muse*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 03, 2003, 02:44:43 AM
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Hmm...elves are considered one of the longest living species--unless you are undead-- at least in regards to BG2. So unless the PC is also an elf, wouldn't either Sola or the PC mention what they would do if the other died before them?

If the PC isn't an elf shouldn't he/she bring up the likely possibility that Sola will out-live the PC?

*pokes her half-asleep muse*
                   Yep, that's a possible banter for sure *gets out her clipboard to assign it to the one who brought it up... then ducks and runs before Ama can thawp*  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 03, 2003, 02:49:10 AM
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Hmm...elves are considered one of the longest living species--unless you are undead-- at least in regards to BG2. So unless the PC is also an elf, wouldn't either Sola or the PC mention what they would do if the other died before them?

If the PC isn't an elf shouldn't he/she bring up the likely possibility that Sola will out-live the PC?

*pokes her half-asleep muse*
Yep, that's a possible banter for sure *gets out her clipboard to assign it to the one who brought it up... then ducks and runs before Ama can thawp*  :lol:
Oh dear.....pure evilness I tell thee!

Uh oh...:ph34r:

*muse is back*

;)                      
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 03, 2003, 02:51:05 AM
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Oh dear.....pure evilness I tell thee!

Uh oh...:ph34r:

*muse is back*

;)
*curtsies* I hath never denied mine evilness and never will :P


Yeah, I do seem to have that effect on everyone but myself at times *grumbles and goes off to look for her own muse*
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 03, 2003, 02:57:27 AM
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Yeah, I do seem to have that effect on everyone but myself at times *grumbles and goes off to look for her own muse*

Still having trouble with Sola's four responces?

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*curtsies* I hath never denied mine evilness and never will

The one time I didn't want my muse to wake up it does.  [_[ I was happy in glorifying the agony of finishing up all that college math.  ;)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 03, 2003, 03:02:27 AM
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The one time I didn't want my muse to wake up it does.  [_[ I was happy in glorifying the agony of finishing up all that college math.  ;)
Hah, you're talking to *me*, remember? Don't even try fooling me *snicker*

Nah, I'm leaving those responses till tomorrow. There is much to do on the usual flirts, never mind the unusual ones ;)

(Besides which *someone* just gave me the most severe attack of the giggles I've had all day!)
                   



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Userunfriendly on February 03, 2003, 03:17:51 AM
the age thing has been done to death via kelsey, but i find the idea of the pc teaching sola what flirting is, trying to explain it conceptually so he finally understands something so utterly alien to his world view, and then teaching him how to flirt interesting and very very original...

                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 03, 2003, 03:44:00 AM
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the age thing has been done to death via kelsey, but i find the idea of the pc teaching sola what flirting is, trying to explain it conceptually so he finally understands something so utterly alien to his world view, and then teaching him how to flirt interesting and very very original...
                   *is still wiping tears of laughter from her eyes*

Well, I don't really think it was overdone in Kelsey, and it *is* an issue with Sola if you're a race other than an elf, I'd think :)

Yes, the flirt teaching should be fun ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 03, 2003, 03:49:43 AM
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the age thing has been done to death via kelsey, but i find the idea of the pc teaching sola what flirting is, trying to explain it conceptually so he finally understands something so utterly alien to his world view, and then teaching him how to flirt interesting and very very original...
                   Ahhh, perchance I will not have to do a Sola romance talk then?

*runs from Tsuru*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 03, 2003, 03:51:00 AM
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Ahhh, perchance I will not have to do a Sola romance talk then?

*runs from Tsuru*
                   Git back here, woman, you ain't getting off that easy *snicker*
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 03, 2003, 04:03:13 AM
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Ahhh, perchance I will not have to do a Sola romance talk then?

*runs from Tsuru*
Git back here, woman, you ain't getting off that easy *snicker*
                   Besides, it is not as if I'm good at writing flurts in any case. ;)

*ducks from the thwap probably heading her way*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 03, 2003, 04:05:08 AM
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Besides, it is not as if I'm good at writing flurts in any case. ;)

*ducks from the thwap probably heading her way*
                   *puts her hands on her hips and taps her foot* We'll never know till you actually send me one, no?  :P

Besides, won't you need the practice? ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 03, 2003, 07:16:09 AM
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Besides, won't you need the practice?
Yes she will, Neh'taniel is going to need some sooner or later too.  :P
*runs from Tsuru before he can be caught to write a flirt*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 03, 2003, 01:59:24 PM
*sighs* Maligned as usual. I am just trying to encourage creativity. I think I'll just go hide in some cozy corner the rest of the day :P
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 03, 2003, 02:15:23 PM
*gives Tsuru a pen, some papers and her muse*
Hf with the flirts. :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 03, 2003, 03:12:56 PM
I *knew* someone was kidnapping our muses :P

*goes back to her cozy corner to continue pouting over being so maligned*
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 03, 2003, 03:18:20 PM
Kidnapping ? Do I really look that evil ?  :o Not my fault if I catch it running away from you and bumping into me without looking.   B)

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*goes back to her cozy corner to continue pouting over being so maligned*
Is it something I said ? *tries to look innocent*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Dashael on February 03, 2003, 03:23:04 PM
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the age thing has been done to death via kelsey, but i find the idea of the pc teaching sola what flirting is, trying to explain it conceptually so he finally understands something so utterly alien to his world view, and then teaching him how to flirt interesting and very very original...
                   I think with the whole "hold my hand while I contemplate prophecy" banter, I don't think anyone needs to explain flirting to Solaufein. He could use some pointers on the finer points maybe, but he certainly has the concept down.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 03, 2003, 03:26:28 PM
Not necessarily, in the books and ancient writings he could have read from the surface there would be pointers to it sure enough, but it is close to never explained in detail because everyone of the surface world knows what flirting is.  Drow however don't know the basics of it so I doubt he would just need some of the finer points explained.                      
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 03, 2003, 03:30:31 PM
With that in mind why not have Sola try to flirt, but do it clumsily? Then the PC can step in and show him a few pointers for next time.  ;)                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 03, 2003, 03:37:36 PM
Now there's a good idea, but how clumsy should he be ? Making a poetic attempt at it more or less as he always does when he tries to tell something or would he try to make it a little more personal and fail at finding the proper words ?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 03, 2003, 04:47:02 PM
Here is my clumsy excuse for a romance talk:
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Sola: I was wondering [charname], of what our lives would be like if either of us were suddenly gone.
PC1a:   1a. Probably no different than it is now. [*goto Sola 1b*]
   2a. My guess is you’d eventually find yourself back in the Underdark.[*goto Sola 2b*]
   3a. Does this really matter?[*goto Sola 1b*]
   4a. I do not want to think about such depressing thoughts. [*goto Sola 3b*]

Sola 1b: Knowing your opinion on this matters a great deal to me. You have made a large impact in my life up till now, and I think of all that I may loose if I lost you. How different things would have been if I never met you is beyond simple poetry. [*goto PC2a*]

Sola 2b: Of all places to ever want to go back to, I doubt very much that I would ever go to the Underdark again willingly. The Underdark was never the place for me to be, I am now linked more closely to the road and your side then any claim the evil of the Underdark could ever make.[*goto PC2a*]

Sola 3b: Neither do I, but it is something that needs to be brought up eventually. A time may come that we wished to have shared our thoughts on this. [*goto PC2a*]
PC2a:   1c. I still do not understand why you wish to bring this up, it is not as if either of us are going to die in battle any time soon. I’m going to make sure of that![*goto Sola 1d*]
   2c. If you believe that talking about this is needful, then go right ahead.[*goto Sola 1d*]
   3c. Is this going to take long? Quests to finish and all that.[*goto Sola 2d*]
   4c. I really do not want to talk about this. [*goto Sola 2d*]

Sola 1d: It is not death in battle that I talk about, but of what will become of us once you grow old.[*goto PC4a*]
PC4a:   1e. I did not hear you include yourself in that ‘growing old’ part. [*goto Sola 1g*]
   2e. Death is a natural part of life, I do not see anything to fear about it when it comes to us. [*goto Sola 1g*]

Sola 2d: This will only take as long as you wish it to be. Though I would think– [*goto PC3a*]
PC3a:   1f. Must you think and worry all the time? There is nothing that needs to be brought up and talked about! [*goto Sola 1g*]
   2f. Hush! (You grab the front of his armored shirt and pull him closer to your height, kissing Solaufein just to keep the blasted drow quiet.) [*goto Sola 1h*]

Sola 1g: I see plenty to worry and fear about, there is a good chance that you will die from old age before me, and I do not know if I will be able to take such a passing.[*goto PC5a*]

Sola 1h: (The now flummoxed drow just peers at you as if he suddenly never seen you before, and he doesn’t seem to quite know how to take it, but at the very least he thought it wise to remain quiet.) [*END*]
PC5a:   1i. If I were to die before you, I would want you to live the rest of your life happy, it is not as if we could not be together once we meet in the after-life.[*goto Sola 1j*]
   2i. If such a time comes, I could always kill you before I die. We’ll still be together then, eh? So let us continue our journey. [*Sola 1h*]

Sola 1j: A small thing to hope for then, that once a time comes when either passes from this life into the after, that we will once again explore and travel together. [*goto PC6a*]
PC6a:   1k. Now you have me thinking of gloomy thoughts also, and what I would do if I did end up dying before you, my love. [*goto Sola 1L]*
   2k. (Sighs) Must we continue to think on these dark thoughts of yours? One way or another, no matter what can come between us, there is no reason to believe that we will not find each other again. [*goto Sola 2L*]

Sola 1L: Then we must be content to live in each moment together as if it could become our last, and  in this way time in our memories will be held at bay. I do not want to loose you, my love, and if I can think of a way so that we would never have to go through such a separation, I will use all that is within my power to do so. [*goto PC7a*]
PC7a:   1m. (Kiss him) If there is a way for us not to be separated, then I know that you will be able to find it, my dear Solaufein.[*goto Sola 1n*]
   2m. (Hug him) I do not want to loose you either, my love. So you better make sure you don’t die before I do![*goto Sola 1n*]
   3m. (Do nothing) [*END*]

Sola 1n: (His eyes widen in startlement, but he recovers quickly. Solaufein wraps his arms around you in a warm hug, murmuring something softly into your ear) I love you, [charname]. Having you in my life makes it that much more worth living and for you to suddenly disappear out of it.... I need you with me, my love, in this life and in any other. [*END*]

Not too horrible now, is it?  :ph34r:

EDIT: *sighs* some of it didn't copy over.  [_[                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 03, 2003, 04:54:39 PM
No not horrible, seems your muse is pretty much back in its normal shape and that's a good thing.  ;)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on February 03, 2003, 05:09:55 PM
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Not too horrible now, is it?
                   No, very good in fact.  What's really cool is that you've worked it so that the PC can actually get several entirely distinct conversations out of this, depending on what choices are made.  That makes it a pleasure to read and certainly enhances the replay value.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Kiki on February 03, 2003, 05:34:51 PM
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Sola 1g: I see plenty to worry and fear about, there is a good chance that you will die from old age before me, and I do not know if I will be able to take such a passing.[*goto PC5a*]

[snip]

   2i. If such a time comes, I could always kill you before I die. We’ll still be together then, eh? So let us continue our journey.
HA!

In general, it seems a little strange to be having what-shall-I-ever-do-without-you conversations in the early stages of a relationship. I would maybe add a bit of context like "wow, that last battle was a close call," or maybe this would be a good post-Ravager discussion as you leave the pocket plane for the last time (I believe that talk is currently missing from Sola's dialogue).

Some of Sola's proposed statements also don't jibe with Weimerfein's "hey, it's your decision about godhood" aloofness.


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some of it didn't copy over.
This board seems to eat words like CharName when they're between a [ and a ]. And a tiny nit: it should be "lose," not "loose."

But all in all, a nice lovetalk. Good job.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 03, 2003, 05:47:47 PM
And here she was trying to wriggle off the hook. Hah ;) Very good, Ama!

And as for you, Niz... c'mere.. I suspect you can write too, so stop the protesting :P
                   



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 03, 2003, 10:41:29 PM
*threatens Niz with Bigsy's Crushing Pillow* I wanna see a flirt! :3 Even if it's something along the lines of. "Gee golly whizz, yer nifty! ^_^"                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 04, 2003, 02:14:37 AM
Put that darn pillow back on Michel's thread where it belongs ;)

I don't know if I can see Sola being clumsy with words. The delicious drow does have a poem for every occasion after all. And Wes, my dear, unless someone decides to put poetry in the flirt they write, you'll have to add that yourself if you feel it's needed there ;)

Actually Niz, since you brought that point up...  :lol: *Hands Niz back the pen and paper, but keeps her muse*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 04, 2003, 02:20:20 AM
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I don't know if I can see Sola being clumsy with words. The delicious drow does have a poem for every occasion after all. And Wes, my dear, unless someone decides to put poetry in the flirt they write, you'll have to add that yourself if you feel it's needed there ;)
                   Not clumsy with words, but with actions. Then the PC could teach him a thing or two.  ;)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 04, 2003, 03:06:39 AM
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Not clumsy with words, but with actions. Then the PC could teach him a thing or two.  ;)
                   Perhaps.. but even he might get tongue tied when faced with this new type of behavior, after all :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on February 04, 2003, 03:35:20 AM
How about mis-timing or mixing his flirts - like winking during a smooch.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 04, 2003, 03:36:34 AM
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How about mis-timing or mixing his flirts - like winking during a smooch.
                   oooohhh... I like that idea! At least for the first part ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 04, 2003, 12:41:44 PM
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And as for you, Niz... c'mere.. I suspect you can write too, so stop the protesting
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*threatens Niz with Bigsy's Crushing Pillow* I wanna see a flirt! :3 Even if it's something along the lines of. "Gee golly whizz, yer nifty! "
I resist Amazor'dra's attempts to make me read Shakespeare so why wouldn't I resist yours to make me write a flirt ? :P
Sphira I think I'll not start writing flirts till some really good idea strikes my mind.  *throws a pillow in Sphira's general direction when Tsuru's not looking* You'll just have to be very patient for such an idea to arise.  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 04, 2003, 12:44:14 PM
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I resist Amazor'dra's attempts to make me read Shakespeare so why wouldn't I resist yours to make me write a flirt ? :P
Sphira I think I'll not start writing flirts till some really good idea strikes my mind.  *throws a pillow in Sphira's general direction when Tsuru's not looking* You'll just have to be very patient for such an idea to arise.  B)
                   *glare at the pillow*


And here I send you not one but two games.. and you still won't even try to do one tiny little flirt *pout*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 04, 2003, 01:40:30 PM
Progress report time.. maybe that will inspire some lurkers to post or at least PM with ideas or flirts ;)

I honestly have no idea how long it will be till I send this to Wes for implementation. We do have a ways to go before I'll be happy with how many are in it, I think. Being a fanatical re-writer doesn't help either. Just the ones I'm writing myself, I won't re-write others unless I consult with the person.

Right now there are 3 "light" flirts, and 4 that could be mid to high level. Each has 3-4 responses to the initial flirt. There are a few more in the works that I know of *nudges Athena and Michel*

Soooo... any other ideas, thoughts or flirts out there? :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 04, 2003, 01:55:04 PM
Gack! *salutes* I'm just hiding under this table to inspire creativity, really, I am! I'm not hiding from you! :D                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Michel on February 04, 2003, 02:01:44 PM
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And as for you, Niz... c'mere.. I suspect you can write too, so stop the protesting
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*threatens Niz with Bigsy's Crushing Pillow* I wanna see a flirt! :3 Even if it's something along the lines of. "Gee golly whizz, yer nifty! "
I resist Amazor'dra's attempts to make me read Shakespeare so why wouldn't I resist yours to make me write a flirt ? :P
Sphira I think I'll not start writing flirts till some really good idea strikes my mind.  *throws a pillow in Sphira's general direction when Tsuru's not looking* You'll just have to be very patient for such an idea to arise.  B)
                   I believe it is time for you to feel the wrath of Tsuru. Fear her wrath because it's great indeed! :P

                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 04, 2003, 02:06:00 PM
*throws up her hands* I give up, I'm going back to Morgan for a while :P  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 04, 2003, 02:21:05 PM
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I resist Amazor'dra's attempts to make me read Shakespeare so why wouldn't I resist yours to make me write a flirt ?
Sphira I think I'll not start writing flirts till some really good idea strikes my mind. *throws a pillow in Sphira's general direction when Tsuru's not looking* You'll just have to be very patient for such an idea to arise.  

You may resist at the moment, but the Shakespeare book is still attached to your hand. ;)

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I believe it is time for you to feel the wrath of Tsuru. Fear her wrath because it's great indeed!  

I have to agree with Michel here. :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 04, 2003, 02:26:05 PM
Hey, it's a big table I'm hiding under, here. Plenty of room for all fleeing from Tsuru's wrath. :D                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 04, 2003, 02:28:16 PM
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Hey, it's a big table I'm hiding under, here. Plenty of room for all fleeing from Tsuru's wrath. :D
                   A good idea!

::hides under the table and casts a reflection spell over it so that the people and table blends in to it's surroundings.::

 :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 04, 2003, 02:31:00 PM
I'm sure she'll never find us. The big sign reading 'Athena and Amazor'dra are not under here' will do it.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 04, 2003, 02:31:54 PM
Hush you three, I'm working on making Morgan R-rated :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 04, 2003, 02:37:15 PM
I think the coast is clear....

::Crawls out from underneith the table, dusting herself off::

Back to Neh'taniel for me then!

::runs away before Tsuru could stop her::                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 04, 2003, 03:30:19 PM
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And here I send you not one but two games.. and you still won't even try to do one tiny little flirt *pout*
Is there any way I could convince that I'm unable to write you a flirt till inspiration strikes me ?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 04, 2003, 03:56:58 PM
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Is there any way I could convince that I'm unable to write you a flirt till inspiration strikes me ?
                   I'll accept that, it happens to all of us :)

*goes back to hunting for her muse*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 04, 2003, 03:59:21 PM
I thought you held on to your muse when you gave me back the writing equip.   [_[  You really should watch where it heads more closely.  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 04, 2003, 04:01:55 PM
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I thought you held on to your muse when you gave me back the writing equip.   <_<  You really should watch where it heads more closely.  B)
                   I did. Michel distracted me :P  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Michel on February 04, 2003, 04:04:05 PM
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I thought you held on to your muse when you gave me back the writing equip.   <_<  You really should watch where it heads more closely.  B)
I did. Michel distracted me :P  :lol:
                   Damn i'm good.  :lol:  :P


To the kiddiesthat are hiding: Ya bunch of wusses! Get writing!  :P  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 04, 2003, 04:08:08 PM
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To the kiddiesthat are hiding: Ya bunch of wusses! Get writing!  :P  B)
                   In not hiding though, I'm running.  ;)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Michel on February 04, 2003, 04:09:35 PM
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To the kiddiesthat are hiding: Ya bunch of wusses! Get writing!  :P  B)
In not hiding though, I'm running.  ;)
                   Run forrest RUN!  :blink:  :o  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 04, 2003, 04:13:59 PM
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To the kiddiesthat are hiding: Ya bunch of wusses! Get writing!  :P  B)
In not hiding though, I'm running.  ;)
Run forrest RUN!  :blink:  :o  :P
                   With all speed.  ;)  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 04, 2003, 04:29:08 PM
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I thought you held on to your muse when you gave me back the writing equip.   <_<  You really should watch where it heads more closely.  B)
I did. Michel distracted me :P  :lol:
                   Shall I get you a leash ? B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 04, 2003, 06:14:14 PM
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Shall I get you a leash ? B)
                   For Michel or for the muse?  B)

*cough* *goes back to considering what to write next*
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 04, 2003, 10:25:55 PM
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To the kiddiesthat are hiding: Ya bunch of wusses! Get writing!  :P  B)
I'll have you know that I'm writing and hiding at the same time.  :D                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 04, 2003, 10:42:34 PM
Good girl! :D                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 04, 2003, 10:47:53 PM
Oh, and if the table I'm supposedly hiding under seems to move every time you turn your back, and you think it's closer to the door then it was the last time you looked...you're probably imagining it.  :D                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 04, 2003, 11:23:48 PM
.... *locks the door*  :P Juuuust in case our writers feel the urge to leave. :) *has written two flirts so far, once someone besides Tsuru writes more, I'll go back to working on a third*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 04, 2003, 11:31:15 PM
Hey, now how am I supposed to take the muse for a walk? :D                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 05, 2003, 12:15:10 AM
Fine! 5-mintune walks. But no more.  [_[                      
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 05, 2003, 12:33:06 AM
Hmm. Right. You'd, ah, better give me a Teleport scroll. Just in case I lock myself out. *whistles innocently*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 05, 2003, 12:51:25 AM
*raises an eyebrow and then returns to writing*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 05, 2003, 12:59:53 AM
*gives Tsuru an innocent look* What? Muses have to be walked, people get locked out, and...oh, forget it. Maybe it's not too late to get a refund on that copy of 'Learn to Lie in Thirty Days'...                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 05, 2003, 01:51:47 AM
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*gives Tsuru an innocent look* What? Muses have to be walked, people get locked out, and...oh, forget it. Maybe it's not too late to get a refund on that copy of 'Learn to Lie in Thirty Days'...
                   Don't try innocent looks on me, missy, those don't work for anyone around here  :P  B)

*goes back to writing again now that her muse is cooperating*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 05, 2003, 04:39:08 AM
Tsuru has already tried and failed at all the tricks in that book, Athena, won't do you any good out here.  
Maybe a big heavy magic leash for Michel and a light nice version to keep your muse close, Tsuru ?  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 05, 2003, 04:51:23 AM
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Maybe a big heavy magic leash for Michel and a light nice version to keep your muse close, Tsuru ?  B)
                   *has a sudden coughing fit*

*ahem* Anyways... maybe a leash for the muse...

*isn't gonna touch that line about Michel, nope, nosir*
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 05, 2003, 05:00:51 AM
You did ask for it.  So I'm not going to use it.   B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Michel on February 05, 2003, 11:23:38 AM
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To the kiddiesthat are hiding: Ya bunch of wusses! Get writing!  :P  B)
I'll have you know that I'm writing and hiding at the same time.  :D
                   Atta girl!  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 05, 2003, 12:58:54 PM
Michel, sugarpie, do I need to take Niz up on that offer of a magical leash after all to get those flirts written by you?  :P  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 05, 2003, 09:18:50 PM
All right, all right, I'm hiding under my table. :D

Michel, you're certainly welcome to hide here, too, from Tsuru and her threats of leashes. The TV reception's terrible but the snack bar isn't half bad.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 05, 2003, 09:24:43 PM
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All right, all right, I'm hiding under my table. :D

                   Such behavior from a junior WW in training... tsk tsk. We *never* hide, my dear ;)

*goes back to tormenting Michel.. snicker*
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 05, 2003, 09:29:09 PM
Tsuru, dear, I'm a junior WW in training with a highly developed sense of self-preservation.
Or, in other words: I don't want to be threatened with a leash.  :P

(And this table is quite the lovely hiding place. I have everything I need down here, or I'm about to. The Jacuzzi is being installed this evening.)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 05, 2003, 09:31:37 PM
Good girl. (And we only leash the men ... well, and the muses ;) )

*ahem* Ok, where were we on this flirt discussion?  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 05, 2003, 09:34:23 PM
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*ahem* Ok, where were we on this flirt discussion?  :lol:
My status report is this: I'm revising, and getting much closer to something I'm satisfied with. I think I'll be ready to have you take a look this evening.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 05, 2003, 09:35:56 PM
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My status report is this: I'm revising, and getting much closer to something I'm satisfied with. I think I'll be ready to have you take a look this evening.
                   *cheers* I can't wait to see! :D                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 05, 2003, 09:39:17 PM
I'm still awaiting the input of a couple of friends. We'll see how quickly they get back to me.  :) How's the general count looking?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 05, 2003, 09:41:02 PM
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I'm still awaiting the input of a couple of friends. We'll see how quickly they get back to me.  :) How's the general count looking?
                   Like we have a ways to go :) Do you hear that, you lurkers? The sooner I get more inspiration and more flirts, the sooner you can be flirting with the delicious drow!                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 05, 2003, 09:47:20 PM
I'll keep thinking. :) In the meantime, I have just received a very lengthy e-mail from one of the friends I asked help from, and hopefully somewhere in the news, rants, and spelling errors I'll find a line or two devoted to the flirt idea.
First, however, I'll have to scroll through a page or two devoted to complaints about sports. Back in a bit.  :rolleyes:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Michel on February 05, 2003, 09:50:59 PM
And there falls another one for Sola....Can I ask for a name change? Solanova? :lol:  :P  B)  :o                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 05, 2003, 10:01:43 PM
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And there falls another one for Sola....Can I ask for a name change? Solanova? :lol:  :P  B)  :o
                   I think we already know the delicious drow has a harem, snookums, he doesn't need a name change :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 05, 2003, 10:37:38 PM
Bah! Sola dersves some groupies. Lord knows all romanable NPCs have enough.  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 05, 2003, 11:16:11 PM
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Bah! Sola dersves some groupies. Lord knows all romanable NPCs have enough.  :lol:
                   I think we're just getting more vocal now, he's always had groupies ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 06, 2003, 06:39:52 AM
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I think we're just getting more vocal now, he's always had groupies
You 're getting more vocal ? That does not bode well for us.   :P  :D                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 06, 2003, 02:06:07 PM
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You 're getting more vocal ? That does not bode well for us.   :P  :D
                   Vocal is good. Vocal leads to discussions that lead to inspiration that leads to lazy muses getting to work.

Yes, that's a broad hint :P
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: jcompton on February 06, 2003, 02:32:24 PM
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Bah! Sola dersves some groupies. Lord knows all romanable NPCs have enough.  :lol:
                   Oh, yeah, sure, I've got all those "groupies" over on the Kelsey board talking about inflicting bodily harm on him for something he _doesn't actually say in the game._

Don't give me "enough."
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 06, 2003, 02:49:59 PM
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Yes, that's a broad hint
I think I'll just pretend not to have noticed that hint for now.  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 07, 2003, 03:59:44 AM
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Oh, yeah, sure, I've got all those "groupies" over on the Kelsey board talking about inflicting bodily harm on him for something he _doesn't actually say in the game._

Don't give me "enough."
                   Stop being so grouchy or I'll come make more pointless posts on Kelsey's board, Jason dear :P ;)

*goes back to pondering why creativity goes away when one has a cold..sigh*


                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Kismet on February 07, 2003, 07:42:30 AM
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Bah! Sola dersves some groupies. Lord knows all romanable NPCs have enough.  :lol:
Oh, yeah, sure, I've got all those "groupies" over on the Kelsey board talking about inflicting bodily harm on him for something he _doesn't actually say in the game._

Don't give me "enough."
                   *coughs*  Sorry, Jason!  *bats eyelashes in an attempt to look cute and gain forgiveness*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: jcompton on February 07, 2003, 08:33:55 AM
Already buried and forgotten under another "hate Kelsey, love Anomen, flirts pleeeeeeeeeease?" post.
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 07, 2003, 10:47:14 AM
Love Anomen ?  :o What's the world coming to ?  [_[                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: AG3 on February 07, 2003, 11:04:16 AM
Is it even possible to write flirts for Anomen without becoming violently ill?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 07, 2003, 12:14:41 PM
*ahem*

*mutters and goes back to looking for that blasted muse*
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 07, 2003, 09:36:13 PM
Ok, where are all the flirt inspiring people? It's the weekend, I've got time to focus and I need some inspiration!  :blink:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 07, 2003, 09:42:06 PM
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Ok, where are all the flirt inspiring people? It's the weekend, I've got time to focus and I need some inspiration!  :blink:
*trudges back in and ducks under her table*

I don't know if I'm a flirt-inspiring person, but I'm here. Yes, I do recall I said I'd be back in a bit, and I wrote that on Wednesday night.  :D What can I say? Immediately thereafter my school newsletter arrived, with the surprise news that we had a major ornithology quiz in about thirty-eight hours.
But I see you all had plenty of fun while I was cramming, my quiz is over and I'm relatively confident I passed, and Lisa posted another part of Decisions, so all seems right with the world. (Except, of course, for the fact that Tsuru can't find her muse.)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 07, 2003, 09:44:10 PM
I can never find my muse when I want her. But then what can I expect from a muse belonging to me? ;)

Glad you survived the surprise test!                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 07, 2003, 09:48:42 PM
Muses remind me a bit of young children in a toy store--one moment they're at your side, and the next they've seen something they considering much more interesting and wandered away.

Any new or interesting news regarding the flirts?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 07, 2003, 09:51:21 PM
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Muses remind me a bit of young children in a toy store--one moment they're at your side, and the next they've seen something they considering much more interesting and wandered away.

Any new or interesting news regarding the flirts?
                   Especially the muses of trollopy wantons *grumble* I had a flutter of an idea earlier that I just remembered. Must work on that a bit, methinks ;)

Well, until Mr. Weimer finds my email in his mountain of the stuff, not really  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 07, 2003, 09:56:35 PM
I'm trying to get inspired! I don't want to copy any one's ideas and I'm not
-exactly- sure what a heavy "flirt" would be.  :blink:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 07, 2003, 09:57:10 PM
An all-around slow day, it appears.
Well, if nothing else of great importance is sprung on me, I should finally get my flirts finished...but you never know. The way my week has gone, I'll probably post this just in time for my computer to blow up. :rolleyes: Knock on wood.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 07, 2003, 09:58:54 PM
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I'm trying to get inspired! I don't want to copy any one's ideas and I'm not
-exactly- sure what a heavy "flirt" would be.  :blink:
                   To my mind, the more "heavy" ones would be where Sola is more confident and may make a move that would surprise the PC. I think we decided not to get too explicit, no? But certain innuendo would work, I'm sure. Anyone else have fresh thoughts on this? :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 07, 2003, 10:03:14 PM
Shoudla put the quotation marks on heavy, not flirt. *blinks* Oh well :P *goes to pester about the subject matter on some of the other flirts*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 07, 2003, 10:05:06 PM
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I'm trying to get inspired! I don't want to copy any one's ideas and I'm not
-exactly- sure what a heavy "flirt" would be.  :blink:
I've gotten around the first problem by asking Tsuru (through PM) if we have a certain flirt already.

My question is, should we try to do a post that answers some of these more pressing questions, so a person doesn't have to search through all fifteen pages of this topic to find out where they should be sending flirts if they don't want to post them here, what exactly we're looking for, etc.? As I recall, the answers are a bit scattered.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 07, 2003, 10:08:52 PM
A flirt FAQ? I'll work on it and try a new topic to keep it uncluttered. But the way things go around here, I'm not sure how long that would last  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 07, 2003, 10:11:51 PM
FAQ. Thank you, that was the term I was looking for.

And as for going off-topic...well...I don't think we've done too badly.  :D We've managed to do a remarkable job of frequently coming back to the topic, if you ask me.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 07, 2003, 10:14:45 PM
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And as for going off-topic...well...I don't think we've done too badly.  :D We've managed to do a remarkable job of frequently coming back to the topic, if you ask me.
                   Well, it's certainly astonished me, but I'm happy that it's going that way. Even if we do have a monster thread!

I really don't want to put exactly what flirts are done in said FAQ though. I'm sure there are some people who'd rather be surprised when this thing finally comes out. So, yes, it's a good idea to PM me to see if something has already been done :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 07, 2003, 10:20:11 PM
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I really don't want to put exactly what flirts are done in said FAQ though. I'm sure there are some people who'd rather be surprised when this thing finally comes out. So, yes, it's a good idea to PM me to see if something has already been done :)
That's a good idea. I, for one, would like to have at least a couple of surprises. :)

Re-reading my post, I realize I wasn't too specific about what I meant when I said 'what we're looking for', so I apologize. What I was trying to say was that perhaps we should put down the criteria for the flirts. For example, we decided not to get explicit. I'm not sure where we stand on the gender-specific argument, but whatever that outcome is/was, we should put that down, too.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on February 07, 2003, 10:21:39 PM
Why not edit the first post on this thread with all relevant info & updates?  No one's going to spam that and, with a few gentle reminders, interested parties can be accustomed to checking there first.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 07, 2003, 10:24:18 PM
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Why not edit the first post on this thread with all relevant info & updates?  No one's going to spam that and, with a few gentle reminders, interested parties can be accustomed to checking there first.
                   That's a good idea too. But first I have to write the thing :) *knows what she'll be doing for the next couple of hours*
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 07, 2003, 10:26:31 PM
Anything I can do to help?                    
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Post by: Tsuru on February 07, 2003, 10:28:56 PM
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Anything I can do to help?
                   Just keep your muse busy on that flirt :) I pretty much have all the details of what's going on in my head. No wonder I can barely remember anything else! Quiet in the peanut gallery :P                    
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Post by: Athena on February 07, 2003, 10:30:39 PM
*salutes*
Back under my table I go, then. Let me know if you need anything.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 07, 2003, 10:46:31 PM
There, first version of our FAQ now posted in the first message in this thread :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 08, 2003, 01:24:41 AM
I like it.  :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 08, 2003, 01:25:47 AM
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I like it.  :)
                   Thank you. I'm pretty sure I didn't leave any current info out :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 08, 2003, 01:29:36 AM
I'll let you know if I think of anything else.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 08, 2003, 05:31:01 AM
Chalk another flirt up to "Another" *goes off into a giggle-fit*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 08, 2003, 08:39:56 PM
*peeks under Athena's table* How goes it under there? ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 08, 2003, 08:45:09 PM
*takes off headphones* Was going fine until I located my favorite Cream tape. Then I had to take a break to listen to "Politician" about eight or nine times. :D
But now I'm settling back down, and I'll PM you with the flirt.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 08, 2003, 08:47:59 PM
Yay! Now I really should settle myself down to writing.. ack :) Heckuva a day.. I had to take my younger guinea pig to the vet for a shot and my car wouldn't start *grumble* Had to borrow the landlady's. Not exactly an auspicious way to start the day and still hope the muse will cooperate. *sigh*
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 08, 2003, 08:53:54 PM
Guniea pigs require regular shots? *is surprised* The things you learn.

And I hear you about the car. *winces* Usually that's the start to a day where you really should have just stayed in bed.

On topic, I was thinking about another response to the flirt I've been writing, but that response just isn't coming together at the moment.  :( So I'll send you the response I have, and when the muse feels like cooperating, I'll try for another one.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 08, 2003, 08:55:42 PM
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On topic, I was thinking about another response to the flirt I've been writing, but that response just isn't coming together at the moment.  :( So I'll send you the response I have, and when the muse feels like cooperating, I'll try for another one.
                   No, I'll explain that one in a PM.

I'm looking forward to reading it :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 09, 2003, 08:02:20 PM
The muse has struck. I've managed to complete two more flirts for Sola.

Morgan, however, is not cooperating. The man must be jealous of all the time I'm spending on Sola.  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Userunfriendly on February 09, 2003, 08:27:23 PM
you know, if i was the size of a guinea pig, and saw the vet approach with the huge (relatively) needle, id freak...

sorry, off topic....bbbbbrbrrrrrrrrrrrrrbbbbbrbbbbbbbrrrrrrr.......hate needles...

but how are the flirts going???  you guys got enough to start running thru weidu yet????                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 09, 2003, 08:29:27 PM
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you know, if i was the size of a guinea pig, and saw the vet approach with the huge (relatively) needle, id freak...

sorry, off topic....bbbbbrbrrrrrrrrrrrrrbbbbbrbbbbbbbrrrrrrr.......hate needles...

but how are the flirts going???  you guys got enough to start running thru weidu yet????
                   The older piggie wheeked so loud everyone in the office heard him. The younger was a gentleman about it ;)

They're going well, slow but steady. We still have a long way to go yet, and I don't want to make a prediction as to when it will be ready for the public. :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 09, 2003, 08:32:11 PM
So how many flirts do we need exactly? *mutters that no one appericates the cookies*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 09, 2003, 08:35:04 PM
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So how many flirts do we need exactly? *mutters that no one appericates the cookies*
                   Of course I appreciate the cookies, Sphira! :D

I really don't have a set number. As was pointed out to me, we do need to have enough for Wes to prune if he wants, and still have a reasonable number of them. I'm thinking at least 20-25 for each section, but that may be reaching. That would make us about a quarter done if we do go for that number.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 09, 2003, 08:39:15 PM
*noddies*Too bad the flirts can't have a private message board so we have some idea what the other flirts are about and can get others opinion of them with out spoiling the rest of the crew.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 09, 2003, 08:41:10 PM
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*noddies*Too bad the flirts can't have a private message board so we have some idea what the other flirts are about and can get others opinion of them with out spoiling the rest of the crew.
Well, I guess we could ask Wes to add a private topic for it, but slow as he is with email, we'll be done by the time that happens *hides from Wes under Athena's table*

Yes, yes, I know it's because you're busy, Wes! :)
                   



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 09, 2003, 08:53:47 PM
I'd join you in bugging him, but I've been seeming to have bad luck by irking modders, who notably make very good mods, with no true intentions of irking them.  -_-

....

*Hides under the couch*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 09, 2003, 09:06:31 PM
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*hides from Wes under Athena's table*
Yay! Company! (And Sphira, what are you doing under the couch? This table has everything--wide screen TV, Jacuzzi, snack bar, etc. Why on earth would you want to hide under the couch?)

On topic: Tsuru, do you suppose you could have someone teach a drow psychology class?  :D Working on flirts for a drow isn't easy. *pouts* The most trouble I'm having is with Sola's response. Is anyone else having this problem?

All right, back to banging my head against the wall.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 09, 2003, 09:10:22 PM
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On topic: Tsuru, do you suppose you could have someone teach a drow psychology class?  :D Working on flirts for a drow isn't easy. *pouts* The most trouble I'm having is with Sola's response. Is anyone else having this problem?
There was a good discussion here: obsolete link removed

But if you have specific questions, ask and someone will probably chime in with an answer :)                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 09, 2003, 09:17:24 PM
Okay! ^_^
*scrambles over to Athena-san's uber hide out under the table*

Well... I just went after something of the format Amazor'dra suggested (I forget where). If you want an example I could send one of the flirts I did.

He's not exactly innocent to sexual expression, but he's reserved and untrusting at first. When you both get familar Sola brings down a bit of that reserve but you better not do anything too risque. I think sometime after the golem chat and uhm... after he returns to your party he'd be a lot more open to the PC. After the nookie chat Sola certianly should be warmed up enough to any type of advances. :D
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 09, 2003, 09:29:06 PM
Yay! More company!

Thanks to both of you. :) I'll look at the link and play through the mod again. Really, I'm at a place where I've got quite a few ideas, but nothing is mixing together well.
I'll keep thinking, and I'll let you know if I need more help.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 09, 2003, 09:30:19 PM
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Yay! More company!

Thanks to both of you. :) I'll look at the link and play through the mod again. Really, I'm at a place where I've got quite a few ideas, but nothing is mixing together well.
I'll keep thinking, and I'll let you know if I need more help.
                   You might also want to just read through Sola's dialogue to see how he speaks. I can send you that file if you don't have the tools to extract it at the moment :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 09, 2003, 09:32:20 PM
I'm okay. Thanks for the offer, though!                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Userunfriendly on February 10, 2003, 01:49:06 AM
"*noddies*Too bad the flirts can't have a private message board so we have some idea what the other flirts are about and can get others opinion of them with out spoiling the rest of the crew. "

oh you silly (anything i put in here will get me into tons of trouble, so omitted) just start another thread, and put warnings that only people who want to be spoiled should look in it since its to be a working thread for people who are writing flirts....


 :P  :P  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 10, 2003, 01:50:51 AM
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oh you silly (anything i put in here will get me into tons of trouble, so omitted) just start another thread, and put warnings that only people who want to be spoiled should look in it since its to be a working thread for people who are writing flirts....


 :P  :P  :P
                   Trouble is some people can't resist looking even if they don't want to be spoiled ;)

I'll email Wes, but I really don't know if I can get him to do it. But I'll try... urgh.  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 10, 2003, 01:57:49 AM
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(Userunfriendly @ Feb 10 2003, 12:49 AM)

oh you silly (anything i put in here will get me into tons of trouble, so omitted) just start another thread, and put warnings that only people who want to be spoiled should look in it since its to be a working thread for people who are writing flirts....


Trouble is some people can't resist looking even if they don't want to be spoiled  

I'll email Wes, but I really don't know if I can get him to do it. But I'll try... urgh.  
Typing to each other to try to get ideas in those cramped little PMs can be a hindrance. A dinky screen tends to lead to dinky thoughts.... ;)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 10, 2003, 01:59:10 AM
Ok, ok, I emailed Wes! But Athena better be prepared to share that table for a while if he wants to strangle me ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 10, 2003, 03:15:09 AM
;)

*gets on her knees and looks up at Wes beseechingly* Almighty creator of the poetic Solaufein! Please allow us a protected forum against flirt snoopers!
 ;)

 :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 10, 2003, 03:17:41 AM
*goes into a giggle fit and makes a note to be sure Wes reads *that* one*  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 10, 2003, 11:33:13 AM
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*gets on her knees and looks up at Wes beseechingly* Almighty creator of the poetic Solaufein! Please allow us a protected forum against flirt snoopers!
So far for my insight in those flirts methinks.   :(                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 10, 2003, 12:40:38 PM
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So far for my insight in those flirts methinks.   :(
                   Don't worry, Niz, even if we do manage to get a private thing going for the flirt-contribs, I doubt this monster topic will die *pats Niz on the head*  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: jcompton on February 10, 2003, 12:52:08 PM
Studios management would have to create the extra forum... which is easy enough to do, if it's something Wes wants.
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 10, 2003, 12:54:31 PM
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Studios management would have to create the extra forum... which is easy enough to do, if it's something Wes wants.
                   The problem, of course, is getting Wes to sit still long enough to read and answer email about it :)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 10, 2003, 02:42:47 PM
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*gets on her knees and looks up at Wes beseechingly* Almighty creator of the poetic Solaufein! Please allow us a protected forum against flirt snoopers!
So far for my insight in those flirts methinks.   :(
All you have to do is try to write one flirt, and give your insight on flirting to Tsuru, my dear Niz. ;)

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The problem, of course, is getting Wes to sit still long enough to read and answer email about it

*sits on the floor, and begins the ritual of summoning a Wes*

 :P                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 10, 2003, 09:31:59 PM
We have lured another lurker into registering and said former-lurker has sent me some lovely flirts :) Now if she would just come forward and introduce herself please? :D
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 11, 2003, 12:46:46 AM
Ahem.
I was not 'lured'.
I simply decided you lovely people were my type and it was past time I interacted with you. After you lurk for...okay, an extremely long time, then you get kind of tired of watching everybody else have fun and not joining in.

Plus I really, really wanted to share that table. It's not a good idea to have an eternally stocked snack bar all to yourself. I've given up on a few...okay, a lot of diets because of it. :)

And yes, Tsuru, you may take that to mean that my table is open. We'll just put up a sign saying, 'Athena and Tsuru are not hiding under here' and we'll be safe from Wes until we decide to come out. He'd never dream of looking for us under here. :D                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 11, 2003, 12:49:45 AM
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And yes, Tsuru, you may take that to mean that my table is open. We'll just put up a sign saying, 'Athena and Tsuru are not hiding under here' and we'll be safe from Wes until we decide to come out. He'd never dream of looking for us under here. :D
                   Oh geez, make a joke and some people take it seriously ;)

Dunno about that, Athena, he's a pretty smart guy. Perhaps we should put an invisibility spell on it ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 11, 2003, 12:55:37 AM
Oh, great. Do you mean to tell me you were kidding about the table?! Now who's going to help me eat the large amounts of chocolate and caramel?! Oh, well, there went the next diet, I guess. *munch*

Invisibility spell...Not a bad idea. And maybe a Teleport Field. Just in case someone walks into the invisible table. Wouldn't want them to find us by mistake, of course. But I'm still convinced that sign would dissuade them if everything else failed.

In the meantime, of course...*munch*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 11, 2003, 12:57:54 AM
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Oh, great. Do you mean to tell me you were kidding about the table?! Now who's going to help me eat the large amounts of chocolate and caramel?! Oh, well, there went the next diet, I guess. *munch*

Invisibility spell...Not a bad idea. And maybe a Teleport Field. Just in case someone walks into the invisible table. Wouldn't want them to find us by mistake, of course. But I'm still convinced that sign would dissuade them if everything else failed.

In the meantime, of course...*munch*
                   Not about the table, about the luring ;)

Oh shoot, calories don't count online.  :lol:

There ya go. We need to be good and hidden *snicker* And don't keep all that chocolate to yourself, woman!  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 11, 2003, 01:01:50 AM
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And don't keep all that chocolate to yourself, woman!  :P
Uh-oh! *dives under table and pulls down tablecloth; sticks up sign reading 'Athena and the chocolate are not under here. Try under the couch' and resumes munching*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 11, 2003, 01:03:10 AM
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Uh-oh! *dives under table and pulls down tablecloth; sticks up sign reading 'Athena and the chocolate are not under here. Try under the couch' and resumes munching*
                   Nice try. That only works on non-WW's. :P

*ahem* And now about that flirt...                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 11, 2003, 01:05:28 AM
.....were you able to finish the Sola responces you were having trouble with? B)                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 11, 2003, 01:09:56 AM
Hmm. Maybe I need to work on this whole 'powers of the obvious' thing a little more. It doesn't look like I've nailed it quite yet...

And yes, about that flirt...parts of it are still not coming together for me. I'm not sure if I'm just being too much of a perfectionist, or if my muse has decided to go on vacation and is occasionally sending very brief postcards.
Or perhaps both.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 11, 2003, 01:11:06 AM
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And yes, about that flirt...parts of it are still not coming together for me. I'm not sure if I'm just being too much of a perfectionist, or if my muse has decided to go on vacation and is occasionally sending very brief postcards.
Or perhaps both.
                   Muses do tend to do that a lot around here. I still have my suspicions that Niz has something to do with it though ;)
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 11, 2003, 01:19:01 AM
All right, all right, we're down to three options.

1.) The muses got together and they're throwing a wild party. They'll be back sometime after curfew.

2.) The muses got together and went on a long vacation. They'll send us the occasional postcard or long letter, and they'll be back...sometime.

3.) Niz has something to do with it.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 11, 2003, 01:51:12 AM
I vote for 3.  :rolleyes:  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 11, 2003, 01:57:41 AM
Or perhaps it's a combination. Maybe Niz is throwing a wild party for the muses.

Hmph.

*goes back under table to attempt to resume work on flirt*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on February 11, 2003, 01:59:11 AM
My vote is that Niz has ensorcelled all your muses into a hot tub somewhere.  That'd work if it's as chilly where they are as it is here.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 11, 2003, 02:03:15 AM
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My vote is that Niz has ensorcelled all your muses into a hot tub somewhere.  That'd work if it's as chilly where they are as it is here.
                   Hey waitaminit here! I want in on that hot tub, specially if the water is really hot and stays hot!!  :o  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 11, 2003, 02:04:04 AM
I think you're right. It's about twenty-five degrees in my part of Oregon. No wonder the muse ditched me.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 11, 2003, 02:05:40 AM
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Hey waitaminit here! I want in on that hot tub, specially if the water is really hot and stays hot!!  :o  :lol:
That's why I installed a Jacuzzi under the table, silly person.  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 11, 2003, 02:06:30 AM
*swinging from the rafters by tippy toes* *ocassionally fishes for chocolates*

So...I was just wondering. Given that the flirts are so far 'PG', and unisex only on the PC's end of things...How far below the belt are we allowed to go?

Or, should I say...we know Sola's male, can't we just well...grab his crotch? Yank him around by the belt? "Accidentally rub him the right way"? Going by the theory you've already seen it all post-nookie, of course.  :ph34r:

And what counts as "appropriate"ly lickable? Already noted ears. Fingers? Chest? Back? Neck?

Oh, and hello friendly friends!  :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 11, 2003, 02:07:18 AM
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That's why I installed a Jacuzzi under the table, silly person.  :lol:
                   Oh yes, I forgot about that :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 11, 2003, 02:23:38 AM
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Oh, and hello friendly friends!  
H.lo there! I believe the flirts are going to be more on the innocent side, at least for nearly half of it, just how 'heavy' the flirts will be once Sola catches on is up to Tsuru.

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My vote is that Niz has ensorcelled all your muses into a hot tub somewhere. That'd work if it's as chilly where they are as it is here.
Methinks that Niz is innocent of this (for once). That Shakespeare book attached to his hand also works as a radar for incoming muses.  ;)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 11, 2003, 02:29:12 AM
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So...I was just wondering. Given that the flirts are so far 'PG', and unisex only on the PC's end of things...How far below the belt are we allowed to go?

                   Ah hah, there is said de-lurker! Welcome again! :)

Mmm... I am awaiting word from Mr. Weimer (Wes, oh Wes, your devoted fans are awaiting you!) on exactly what level of intimancy he'll be comfortable with for Sola.  Right now, as Ama said, I'm erring on the side of caution.

They don't *have* to be unisex, I'm sorry I wasn't clear on that, I guess :) If someone wants to write a one-gender flirt, and it fits well, I will happily code it to come up for only that sex of player. It's an easy enough thing to do. My only concern is that we try to have an equal amount for both genders if that should happen.

Mmm...lickable parts? Anything not covered by armor should be fair game in my book. Thoughts anyone?
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 11, 2003, 03:13:40 AM
Hmmm.....just thought of something that while does not deal with licking, it still involves the tongue. How about the PC teaching Sola how to French-Kiss? (Okay, so this is the old name for it in CA, but still...)

Just something I wanted to throw out there. :ph34r:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 11, 2003, 03:20:18 AM
I like that idea.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 11, 2003, 03:39:25 AM
*glee* Lickable parts...is it my fault if elf ears happen to be long and pointy? *GLEE*

*inspired* Hrm. Drat. That probably does count as porn. Ah, well. I suppose Tsuru could beat me about the head when I send it in later.  :)

Teach Sola how to french kiss? Oooh. I wanna see that.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on February 11, 2003, 03:45:00 AM
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Hmmm.....just thought of something that while does not deal with licking, it still involves the tongue. How about the PC teaching Sola how to French-Kiss? (Okay, so this is the old name for it in CA, but still...)

Just something I wanted to throw out there. :ph34r:
Hmmm.  Just because drow don't flirt as surfacers know it doesn't mean that Sola is otherwise naive.  We have Viconia's word for it that they have a very extensive erotic repertoire, in fact.  Considering that, I think that once matters become more intimate than mere flirting, the teaching is more likely to come from Sola than the other way around.                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 11, 2003, 03:45:35 AM
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*inspired* Hrm. Drat. That probably does count as porn. Ah, well. I suppose Tsuru could beat me about the head when I send it in later.  :)
                   Sphira already did the lick the ears and Wes approved it ;)

I do not beat people about the head, I simply thwap. No, wait, Michel is the only one I thwap. I just sigh and go back to looking for my muse.  :rolleyes:  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: L_Jonté on February 11, 2003, 08:48:08 AM
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Hmmm.  Just because drow don't flirt as surfacers know it doesn't mean that Sola is otherwise naive.  We have Viconia's word for it that they have a very extensive erotic repertoire, in fact.  Considering that, I think that once matters become more intimate than mere flirting, the teaching is more likely to come from Sola than the other way around.
I agree.  

Also, I think a certain amount of restraint is in order here, or before we know it the Sola we all fell in love with won't exist anymore.  A few flirts are one thing, but don't ignore the basic character concept.  Just because a behavior can be written in doesn't mean it should be.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Michel on February 11, 2003, 09:21:47 AM
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(Wes, oh Wes, your devoted fans are awaiting you!)
Fans?? You mean obsessive Bard Groupies! B)  :lol:  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 11, 2003, 09:47:11 AM
Hendryk and L'Jonte have very good points. The Drow repertoire should be pretty extensive, if those massage boys in Ust Natha are anything to go by. Something to chew on. Yessssss.

My current flirt ideas (I'm multitasking on them as we speak) involve something I've lifted off Chinese/Japanese literati. There is a tradition among the Sino-Japanese scholars involving extensive tea drinking, calligraphy, painting, poetry writing/reading and even swordplay (yes, more or less at once). Found some absolutely lovely Chinese and Japanese poems I'm trying to use as the basis for Sola-PC exchanges. There is something beautifully erotic about the re-pictured mundane, neither effete nor overtly romantic.

I am however, aware that the poems currently in place for Sola are more European than Asian. Am, for now, disguising the latter poetry as Kara-Tur literature, but I am unsure if this is essentially a bad idea? I do not intend to spoil the 'mood' of Sola's romantic poetry, and my poems are not so obviously Asian in imagery (that is, no geisha, teahouses or sampans), but I still don't want to cause any sort of problem by going forward with this. For example, here's a waka I've integrated into a flirt:

Through the blackest shadow
Of the darkness of the heart I wander
In bewilderment -
You who know the world of love, decide:
Is my love reality or dream?

(Ariwara no Narihira)

This poem begins an IF...THEN sequence, two poetic replies the PC could pick, one good, one bad. Or perhaps, the entire idea itself reeks of over-drama?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 11, 2003, 12:36:43 PM
Actually that sounds as if it might be better as a banter, Vampyre.. which we encourage also :)

As for the rest.. I repeat. We are sticking to PG-rated for now. Until I hear otherwise from Wes, that's the best way to go.

Tsuru
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 11, 2003, 12:51:46 PM
Well, I'll send you my new batch of poetry-flirtations, and I guess the sorting will go from there...Have two new flirts down already. Both are low level. Doing a drinking flirt now.  :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 11, 2003, 01:04:37 PM
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Just something I wanted to throw out there. :ph34r:
Hmmm.  Just because drow don't flirt as surfacers know it doesn't mean that Sola is otherwise naive.  We have Viconia's word for it that they have a very extensive erotic repertoire, in fact.  Considering that, I think that once matters become more intimate than mere flirting, the teaching is more likely to come from Sola than the other way around.[/quote]
                    Which is why I asked a while back for thoughts on Sola-initiated flirts. Anyone have any thoughts on that one yet?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 11, 2003, 01:14:46 PM
Well, some of my (working on them now) flirts might work better if they were initiated by Solaufein. The expanded levels are definitely moving towards high suggestivity too. They're not large enough to be banters, perhaps, but they would make it as Sola initiated flirts. Question to your question, are possible Sola-initiated flirt suggestions allowed?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 11, 2003, 01:17:55 PM
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Well, some of my (working on them now) flirts might work better if they were initiated by Solaufein. The expanded levels are definitely moving towards high suggestivity too. They're not large enough to be banters, perhaps, but they would make it as Sola initiated flirts. Question to your question, are possible Sola-initiated flirt suggestions allowed?
Yes, I'll take them. I was considering, if Sola-initiated flirts are done,  putting some of those in towards the last part of the game when the romance is well developed.  The concern is to keep things Sola-like, and not to take it to Kelsey level. Which I believe the ones I currently have coded are. Sola is not going to lose what makes him beloved by us all, it's just adding a little fun for those who want to flirt with him.                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on February 12, 2003, 03:54:37 AM
Does anyone know if elves have long, thin feet to match their hands?  Might be worth a foot-fetish flirt if they do.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 12, 2003, 03:58:56 AM
I know they move around very lightly so it's not impossible but I don't really see sola going for a foot-fetish.   [_[                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Userunfriendly on February 12, 2003, 06:33:12 AM
what if the pc is a halfling, like mazzy???

halflings are hobbits, right???  so dont they have tufts of hair on their feet???

kinky, kinky, kinky...                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 12, 2003, 09:27:35 AM
Halfling foot fetish...eeeack!
How about a footsie in the morning under the covers instead?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 12, 2003, 11:49:58 AM
*mutter* I still want a nice quiet corner to hide in.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 12, 2003, 11:56:03 AM
Heheh. Wish granted. Look out for my next batch of flirts.  :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 12, 2003, 12:27:51 PM
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what if the pc is a halfling, like mazzy???

halflings are hobbits, right???  so dont they have tufts of hair on their feet???

kinky, kinky, kinky...
There are quite a number of things that find their origin in Tolkien's work but I'm not so sure that they would have the same hairy feet as it seems halflings in FR don't have a huge problem with wearing boots where Tolkien's hobbits never even wear slippers.  
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*mutter* I still want a nice quiet corner to hide in.
*points at his shadowy, magic-dead, silenced corner* As a flirt writer you probably have more rights to it than me.  ;)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 12, 2003, 12:32:51 PM
Hypothetical Question:

If Solaufein were to give you a flower, what flower would it be? (Something other than a rose, if possible...)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Dashael on February 12, 2003, 01:23:57 PM
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Hypothetical Question:

If Solaufein were to give you a flower, what flower would it be? (Something other than a rose, if possible...)
                   I don't know much about flowers, but something that blooms at night would be perfect. Sola seems more romatic at night.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 12, 2003, 01:31:38 PM
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Hypothetical Question:

If Solaufein were to give you a flower, what flower would it be? (Something other than a rose, if possible...)
                   Hmm.....a white lotus, always a very romantic flower when seen at night.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 12, 2003, 01:48:00 PM
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Hmm.....a white lotus, always a very romantic flower when seen at night.

Yes, that would be pretty. But...if Solaufein were to pick the flower on a night stroll...wouldn't the lotuses be a bit...wet? I was wondering about a white lily. Death, vampires, all that.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 12, 2003, 01:50:41 PM
What you could do is have Sola say something about finding the lotus earlier, and using magic to preserve it until he could give it to the PC.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 12, 2003, 01:52:40 PM
*digs her way out from coding* Very nice thoughts :) *digs back in while she still has time before work*

There's some good work going on in the background, folks :)                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 12, 2003, 02:03:04 PM
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What you could do is have Sola say something about finding the lotus earlier, and using magic to preserve it until he could give it to the PC.

Wow. Excellent suggestion. Thanks!  :)
(See, I'd have thought up something stupidly daft, like alchohol, or presses...)

-Hamster [--- sleepless idiot                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 12, 2003, 02:05:22 PM
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-Hamster <--- sleepless idiot>
                   *swats at Hamster* No calling yourself an idiot when you've sent me such wonderful flirts/dialogues. Get thee to the chocolate!  Or the jacuzzi, either will help :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 12, 2003, 02:09:54 PM
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-Hamster [--- sleepless idiot]
*swats at Hamster* No calling yourself an idiot when you've sent me such wonderful flirts/dialogues. Get thee to the chocolate!  Or the jacuzzi, either will help :lol:
From what I hear, very good flirts and dialogues, now idiots are not known for creating excellent banters. ;)                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 12, 2003, 02:16:03 PM
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Get thee to the chocolate! Or the jacuzzi, either will help

*sniffsniff* I sooooo need a bath...

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From what I hear, very good flirts and dialogues, now idiots are not known for creating excellent banters.

Thanks, Amazor'dra, Tsuru. It's a huge enough pleasure to be able to write again. It's terrifying nice to write stuff and know other people like them too.  :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 12, 2003, 02:59:45 PM
Well go get some sleep after that bath. Sleepy hamsters cannot write flirts after all!  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 12, 2003, 08:06:15 PM
Well... personally I don't think Sola would be give a flowers type but that's just me. I think it would be more charming if it was simple ol' dandilions or some wildflowers. I would think if he gives the PC gift, it would be a poem he wrote for them. But if it's too general... then the poem wouldn't be so hot. And if it wasn't general... wouldn't be for everyone, ne?                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 12, 2003, 08:17:12 PM
Tsuru-sama brought up a point about Sola writing poetry in a conversation. Honestly, I'd love to see Sola writing poetry too, but she pointed out that it might not work for everyone; there might not be enough of us poetry fancying types. That said, I'm happy to see another poetry fancier! Maybe there'll be enough of us to alter the status quo. :)

No, I don't think Sola is much the flower giving type either...but with the right trigger...                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Hendryk on February 12, 2003, 08:24:04 PM
In secret (i.e., non-Lolth) drow lore, the white lotus symbolizes Vicanzor who drowned while saving Kailana from a conjured water elemental.  The flower symbolizes his wreath of hair; the last sight she had of him.

Now, if I can churn out some smarmy bit of fluff, I'm sure someone here ought to come up with something *good* for Sola.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira on February 12, 2003, 08:24:22 PM
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That said, I'm happy to see another poetry fancier! Maybe there'll be enough of us to alter the status quo. :)

                   Well... there's really only one person who could write that poem. ^_^                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 12, 2003, 08:39:07 PM
*collapses on the sofa and takes the first deep breath she's been able to take all day* Yeesh, I love it when I hit the ground running first thing and don't stop all day... argh  :o

Okay, let's see...

Who knows, if the poetry banter is done interestingly enough, it might even attract non-poetry types :) Let the muses conspire and see what happens. (Good heavens, I have two of 'em calling me Tsuru-sama now..  :lol: Guess that's what I get for using a Japanese name)

Flowers... flowers... I still think it's a nice idea, and something Sola could perhaps pick up on as being a surfacer gesture that he'd like to try with the PC.

Now someone please pass me that chocolate! :)

                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 12, 2003, 08:41:21 PM
Hey Hendryk, did not know that (about Vicanzor). That is cool stuff. And it's cool of you to share it. :)

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Well... there's really only one person who could write that poem.  

First, to convince Tsuru-sama that there is nothing more romantic, corny and grand than receiving a suitably skin-crawling sweet slap of prose from the one you love...and we are legion!  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 12, 2003, 08:43:46 PM
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First, to convince Tsuru-sama that there is nothing more romantic, corny and grand than receiving a suitably skin-crawling sweet slap of prose from the one you love...and we are legion!  :P
                   Consider me convinced and go for it. I'm a sucker for love poems myself, what can I say? And Valentine's Day is coming which should put the muses in a suitable mood  :P  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Vampyre Hamster on February 12, 2003, 08:54:02 PM
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Consider me convinced and go for it. I'm a sucker for love poems myself, what can I say? And Valentine's Day is coming which should put the muses in a suitable mood.

Hurrah!

May we all write poetry and test it on live subjects.  :D                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 12, 2003, 08:55:40 PM
Now where's my chocolate? *has a one track mind right now*  :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Athena on February 12, 2003, 09:11:38 PM
*pokes head out from under table*
I restocked the snack bar. Here you go.
*hands Tsuru chocolate*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 12, 2003, 09:14:03 PM
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*pokes head out from under table*
I restocked the snack bar. Here you go.
*hands Tsuru chocolate*
                   Finally! I am officially happy and can go back to coding now  :D                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Dashael on February 12, 2003, 11:23:30 PM
I don't know if you're considering taking this into account for the flirts, but flower giving doesn't seem like something "Pragmatic Sola" would do, or if he did perhaps he would get it not quite right.

ie:

PC: Thankyou dear Solaufein, this flower is lovely etc.
Sola: Lovely? Hmmm perhaps, but if you crush it up it makes an excellent oil for keeping a blade keen, and has mild disinfectant properties for wound treatment.
PC: (Sighs)
Sola: (Noting PC's disappointment) And the fragrance reminds me of that night we danced under the stars.
PC: Good save :)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 12, 2003, 11:27:36 PM
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I don't know if you're considering taking this into account for the flirts, but flower giving doesn't seem like something "Pragmatic Sola" would do, or if he did perhaps he would get it not quite right.
I'll take note of that. It's easy enough to code for whichever one he is, just a bit of extra work. But since I'm determined to make this as good as I can, I don't mind at all :) And with all the creative help coming in, I'm sure it will be a wonderful flirt pack. I'm certainly not doing it alone!

And thanks for reminding me, to be honest, I'd totally forgotten about "Pragmatic" or "Compassionate"! Now to figure out just when he turns that way... oh, Wes, are you watching? :)                    



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Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Userunfriendly on February 13, 2003, 02:29:37 AM
well, i do know if tsuru-chan or spira-chan or kiki-chan are the ones playing the pc, the way to their hearts is

CHOCHOLATE!!!

hahahhaha....

considering all the virtual calories passed over the thread, their virtual muses ought to virtually passed out from all the virtual endorphins produced...

say, do they even have chocholate in the forgotten realms???

how about the pc pigging out, (oink, oink!!!) on a super gigantic triple layer death by chocholate ice cream, with huge heaping helpings of hot fudge, with white and dark bittersweet crushed chocholate sprinkles sunday???

with a diet coke, of course...oopse...no coke in the forgotten realms...ok, a diet ale...

korgan: diet ale!!!!!  sola my dark drow friend, why is it, when you takes charname to the Athlanka confectionary factory for a date, involving that kind of obscene sweets, does charname order a diet ale???

sola: the mysteries of surface women are legion....

imoen: you mean the mysteries of any woman is legion...

sola: well no, i mean a drow woman taken on such a date and presented with such a confectionary masterpiece, she certainly would not order a diet ale, but would simply wallow in the moment, and order several bottles of wine to enjoy that dish...i still cant believe charname ate that whole sunday by herself, i mean it was bigger than my head...heck, it was even bigger than anomen's head...

imoen: oh my gosh...bigger than anomen's swelled head!!!!! thats gigantic, thats even bigger than korgan's beer belly!!!!

korgan: thats not a beer belly, girlie, i simply (deleted...this is a pg program after all...hehehehheh)

imoen turns pinker than her hair, and runs away giggling and gibbering into the night....

                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 13, 2003, 02:33:55 AM
Men.  :rolleyes:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 13, 2003, 02:37:30 AM
Oh dear....a very wild imagination you have Userunfriendly.

Tis a good thing! :lol:                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Userunfriendly on February 13, 2003, 02:40:25 AM
would you ladies like to hear what korgan said to imoen???its rated r, i mean its korgy, after all...hehheheheh.....

amazing how even in a forum the gender shows thru in the responses....hehhehehehheh                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 13, 2003, 02:41:17 AM
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would you ladies like to hear what korgan said to imoen???its rated r, i mean its korgy, after all...hehheheheh.....

amazing how even in a forum the gender shows thru in the responses....hehhehehehheh
                   Don't. You. Dare. *breaks from her habit of only thwapping Michel and thwaps Use*  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 13, 2003, 02:43:41 AM
*tries to contain her curiousity*

Methinks that if I said yes Tsuru would thwap me as well.  B)                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Userunfriendly on February 13, 2003, 03:02:15 AM
sorry, amazor, tsuru's thwaps hurt!!

ouchie, ouchie, ouchie...

hey, cool, i found it...

i found a box of chocholate truffles my brother bought for his piano students...hehhehehe....you know, i dont like sweets much, but these chocholate truffles are pretty good, burp....

 :rolleyes:  B)  :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 13, 2003, 07:34:21 AM
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And Valentine's Day is coming which should put the muses in a suitable mood
I'm considering to borrow your muse for a day.   [_[                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Kiki on February 13, 2003, 11:17:43 AM
I find it interesting that there were vociferous demands for a separate forum, but now that there is one, no one is using it.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Michel on February 13, 2003, 11:30:39 AM
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I find it interesting that there were vociferous demands for a separate forum, but now that there is one, no one is using it.
                   I'll go there now                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: jcompton on February 13, 2003, 12:19:55 PM
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I find it interesting that there were vociferous demands for a separate forum, but now that there is one, no one is using it.
                   That's the problem with revolution. What do you do for an encore when you achieve massive social change?

Okay, so it's just a forum, but still.
                   
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Sphira_At_College_Comp on February 13, 2003, 01:51:50 PM
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CHOCHOLATE!!!

hahahhaha....
                   Close, my dear friend! I'm partial to cookies. Chocholate chip, notably. :D As for pigging out on choclate, cookies, and ice cream; I have a more drowish quality. I despise diet coke. ^_^ It tastes nappy (except diet vanilla coke). If I'm going to die of being a glutton, I'll enjoy every second of it!

*goes off to her silly education class*


Wait! As for not using the new board... uhm...  I had a good reason... Oh! We were all to nervous to break it in. Darn you Michel! *fwappity!*

*drags herself to class*                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Amazor'dra on February 13, 2003, 02:33:59 PM
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I find it interesting that there were vociferous demands for a separate forum, but now that there is one, no one is using it.
                   Hmmmm.....I was under the impression that it was supposed to be a password protected forum. I believe Tsuru hesitated in using it because it wasn't.                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Niz on February 13, 2003, 02:35:20 PM
Well it has a decent warning that it contains spoilers whilst it doesn't keep people like myself out.  What more could you want.  :D :P                    
Title: Sola and flirts
Post by: Tsuru on February 13, 2003, 03:34:27 PM
Let's move it over into our new home, and don't forget to drag your muses along!