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BG2 Completed Mods => Keto => Topic started by: Nesquaam on April 23, 2004, 10:05:53 AM

Title: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Nesquaam on April 23, 2004, 10:05:53 AM
Will Keto also have an alternate portrait?
It's not that I don't like the one that's (as far as I know, and believe me, that's not far) the default, but when I plau a game, I don't want to be remember of Liv Tyler.
(nothing against her though).
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: jcompton on April 23, 2004, 10:41:22 AM
That's not terribly high on the list of priorities. We know it's pretty easy for players to swap in their own, after all. If there end up being a lot of good submissions or something, we can see about working them in or at least doing a gallery page.
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Nesquaam on April 23, 2004, 10:51:10 AM
Ok, fair enough.
That's not terribly high on the list of priorities. We know it's pretty easy for players to swap in their own, after all. If there end up being a lot of good submissions or something, we can see about working them in or at least doing a gallery page.

How does this work? Swapping NPC portraits?
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: BevH on April 24, 2004, 03:01:01 PM
I believe it's as easy as finding the one you want, naming it to the NPC and putting it in the override folder.
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Nesquaam on April 24, 2004, 03:03:58 PM
THNX. I read somewhere that you have to name it N(NPC's name here).bmpL/S.
Is that right?
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: jcompton on April 24, 2004, 07:24:54 PM
Generally that's the standard. Kelsey is slightly different. You'll be able to figure it out (or we'll document it in the Keto readme.)

I don't remember reaction to this portrait being so ambivalent-to-negative back when it was first made...
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Domi on April 24, 2004, 08:23:44 PM
I thought at the time that it did not quite match the "bard with penchant for drinking" description, but it is certainly well-made and looks good in the game.  :)
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: cliffette on April 24, 2004, 09:29:37 PM
Back when it came out, there wasn't much of a standard in Baldurized images. Then Karsten came along with her/his damned portrait portal!  >:(

Now we're all pickier - well I am anyway :)
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Cybersquirt on April 24, 2004, 11:18:33 PM
I'm not.  ;D

But, in all seriousness, I think the portrait is the mod creators choice.  I mean.. they're the ones that live and breathe the character, they're the one that create the personality; it stands to (my) reason/ing that they create the whole package.  I'll supply my opinion (and we've all got one) but, ultimately, it's their vision.  :)
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: jcompton on April 24, 2004, 11:24:55 PM
Actually, Karsten was doing his thing back when Wynne made this pic... Blue had tried to go to him first but didn't provide him with a sufficiently high-res source for his liking (it was going to be a different source at the time... I actually can't recall whose idea it was to use this Tyler source.) By time we got back to him he already had that request list as long as his arm, and of course now he's closed up shop.
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: jcompton on May 31, 2004, 11:29:05 PM
Incidentally, Bons went ahead and made an intriguingly different portrait for Keto. I'm hoping to get a little word back from Blue about it, but even if we don't get a ruling on "official" pic I'm sure it will be made available.
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: cliffette on June 03, 2004, 07:58:56 AM
even if we don't get a ruling on "official" pic I'm sure it will be made available.


Can it be made available right now? I like portraits :).
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: jcompton on June 03, 2004, 09:19:15 AM
I'll let Bons decide if she wants to flash it about. :)
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Bons on June 05, 2004, 09:38:14 PM
Never say I haven't flashed you.

(http://bons.50megs.com/ppg/AltKetoTake3L.jpg)

Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: discharger12 on June 05, 2004, 10:01:17 PM
What's in the bottle?

OMG? ROLLING ROCKS?
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Domi on June 07, 2004, 01:49:48 PM
I like it more than the original portrait though my only tiny suggestion will be "picturize" it a bit more.  :) It is still too photo-like.
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Diana on June 08, 2004, 08:30:16 AM
I too like this portrait better than the original - in this one she looks like a real party gal.
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: jcompton on June 10, 2004, 09:06:17 PM
After discussing with Blue, this pic is now the official, default Keto pic. I'll be updating it on the PPG front-page in a day or two.
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: cliffette on June 15, 2004, 02:22:10 AM
I like it... Keto would definitely wear a smile.

I second Domi's suggestion, but would like to request some hair coming out over her left shoulder, or something to fill in the gap - there might be something there already (my monitor is very dark) in which case it looks great. :)
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Bons on June 20, 2004, 08:11:31 PM
I have paid attention and touched up the portrait, airbrushing some on the face using colors sampled from the BG2 portraits, adding a little hair and developing the cloak at the left shoulder. Any changes are looking pretty negligible once it's shrunk to the character and main screen sizes, though. Just think how much fun you'll have squinting at her party photo in game, trying to figure out which version we used and what blobs really are changes! Woohoo!  ;)

Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Domi on June 21, 2004, 12:40:24 PM
Ah, yes, I sense that it is bound to become the majour attraction of the mod :) But, as the poet said "your griveous labours will not be in vain and the spark will birth the flames..."  Erm, now that I think about it, it is not quite applicable, but I am very glad that Keto is becoming reality.
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: cliffette on June 22, 2004, 08:06:07 AM
Any changes are looking pretty negligible once it's shrunk to the character and main screen sizes, though.

 ;D I forgot that part.

She's very cute, and I like it very much. Especially the bottle in her hand.  ;)
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Perdita on June 22, 2004, 05:14:31 PM
I like this new portrait much better than the Liv Tyler one.  Good job, Bons.   :D


Cyn (from out here in Rolling Rock country)
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: irenicus on October 18, 2004, 06:46:52 AM
blime she is a alcohlic, *scuse spelling* anyway her poems must be terrible

i once *hic* went to *hic* firewine
*hic* and slaped a golem for a dime *splutter*
*hic* then i might kyle
*hic* who made me hair go fiery *hic*
and thats the end of my *hic* diary 


Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Megalobird on October 19, 2004, 12:38:04 AM
She's a lady.  Whoa, whoa, whoa, she's a lady.  I'm talkin' 'bout, that little lady. . .
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Qwinn on November 27, 2004, 08:44:41 PM
Okay, I'm coming in late, but now I'm really curious.  I never got to see the original Keto "Liv Tyler" portrait, and can't find it through thread hopping.  Anyone still have it handy?

Qwinn
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: icelus on November 27, 2004, 09:02:25 PM
From The Vault™.  :)
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: jcompton on November 27, 2004, 09:10:56 PM
I'll do portrait packs of that one and the Muse variant probably after the bugfixing/audio adding hijinx quiet down.
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Opalescence on November 29, 2004, 07:07:29 AM
My two cents: in the original portait Keto's more refined-looking, but then again she's a drunken party chic so she's not supposed to be refined-looking, she's supposed to look like the kind of girl you'd find in a bar drinking a lot!  So, in the end, the original portait is better artistically, but the second one is better suited to Keto's, err, style.
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: Murdane on November 29, 2004, 06:40:32 PM
The newer portrait is also more Baldur's Gate II--esque.
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: EarthquakeDamage on December 08, 2004, 08:46:16 PM
Is that Liv Tyler?
Title: Re: Alternate portrait?
Post by: jcompton on December 08, 2004, 11:10:22 PM
Yes.