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Miscellany, Inc. => Ensign First Class Blather => Topic started by: Moongaze on January 04, 2006, 07:49:42 AM
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Over the past year, people have increasingly made accounts, posts, PM's and the like towards my person, with the obvious purpose of bothering me and making fun of me. While I'll admit I'm not the nicest community member, nor the most mature one, this issue has been getting out of hand and I just want it to stop. I'm already keeping a low profile, but apparently that doesn't seem to work as well as it should.
*sighs softly* Sure, I've been angry. I've blown up at people in the community, and sometimes a bit too easily. I admit all that. But I don't think I deserve this hatred and disliking I get nowadays, wherever I go in the community. Perhaps I should elaborate a little.
Several community members have distinct personalities that clash with mine. They say and do heartless and cruel things, things that could have easily been solved in a much less hostile way. (I won't mention any names. They know who they are.) This angers me. Believe me, I've tried to ignore is as much I could, but after the umpteenth time, that anger eventually comes outwards to strike against the people who are the cause. At that point, many fingers are pointed at me.
"OMFG Moongaze is an evil ogre berserker!"
"We must hate him forever!"
"Anger can't be forgiven!"
"DIE MOONIE! DIE!!!"
"GO AWAY!"
"FOREVAR BANZORRED!"
"HAHA SO PATHETIC!"
...is the reaction to my anger. It's not right. I don't blow up without having a good reason to do so. But some people refuse to look at anything but my anger. They don't want to look at what makes me so angry. This is injustice, which is something that frustrates me endlessly.
If you're one who happens to be upset because of the whole Moonie-multiple-account thing, then I apologise. It is always wrong to lie, and I do understand if that makes me unforgiveable. Still, I had no harmful intentions. If anything, view it as a shield. Moongaze was disliked by quite an amount of people. To stay in the community and make mods to my heart's content, I needed a shield, a disguise, to be accepted again. A silent second chance, if you will. Though one that was foolish, as I came to realise after I quit. *shrugs a bit* I didn't mean any harm with it. How was I supposed to mend the damage I had apparently done, save leaving the community forever? People wouldn't have listened if I had tried to talk to them, and I've ignored everything up to the point where I couldn't anymore.
*sigh* I'm not an evil rampaging monster. I'm really quite sweet once you get to know me, you know? No, of course you don't know...
If you would look beyond my anger and my flaws, you would see a caring, understanding, forgiving, sweet and sensitive young man. I'm a bit oversensitive at times, I know. I don't have any harmful intentions, though. I never had, and I never will. It's just not me. I forgive quite easily, and my anger never stays long. I don't hold grudges.
My request is for everyone to stop trying to annoy me, hurt me, degrade me, or make fun of me. I don't want any more problems, and I don't deserve a constant grudge and hatred for as long as I remain in the community. Just stop it. Treat me in a normal, social way. Treat me as a friend. But don't treat me as if I'm a war criminal or an evil ogre or something. If you can't let go of your spite, then just ignore me. Just don't keep spitting venom into my face. Enough is enough.
I make no promises for how long I'll stay in the community, or the progress of my mods. Knowing my previous experiences with hostile forum environments, I'll probably just disappear unannounced one day, and my feelings tell me that day isn't too far off.
I know this sounds like I believe everyone in the community resents me. While I admit it does feel like that at times, I know it's not true. If you carry no grudge, spite, hatred or disliking for me, I am glad, and this message was not intended for you. ^^
I just thought this message would assist towards peace, rather than conflict. I believe that if everyone gave up their grudges towards others, this community would be a lot better. ^^ It's up to you what to do with my request, though I'd be disappointed if you decided to discard it and continued on the path of spite.
For the record, no matter how this message sounds to your ears, I'm not looking for a fight. I'm looking to end the fighting, assuming people are willing to co-operate. Personally, I can scarce imagine people wanting to keep conflicts running for god knows how long.
Well, that was my message. Thanks for taking the time to read through it. Carry on and have a happy life, and good luck with your mods.
With love,
Moonie
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Perhaps you could tell me in what way I have deserved the treatment I have received from you.
Have I ever insulted your person? Your Mods? Doubted your capability to finish them, yes, with reason. But the rest? I recall being a great fan and advocate of Alcander and your other projects. What reaction I have received from you in general, and of late, I believe only you know.
In this post, I have not insulted you, nor have I picked a fight. I have defended you behind your back, and while I have defended certain actions to suspend your account for 7 days, I have also spoken against picking on you for the sake of it after certain activities were revealed elsewhere. To my knowledge, I have never once sent you any hate mail, just PM to tell you not to contact me except in public.
I do not feel the actions of hounding persecution that you have received at the hands of others is a good thing, but you are responsible for whatever actions have brought you to such a state. I do not condemn you, but you know how you have come to such a stage in your activity in the IE community as a whole. If you are willing to change, to overcome your own weaknesses, to hold yourself responsible for the state of your social wellbeing both online and in real life, then I believe that your life can yet change for the better. I have no grudge, only pity for you. Still, in the end I only suggest, advise, exhort. How you take this, as offensive, irrelevant, or conciliatory, is up to you.
If there is any positive response from you to this post, let it be seen here on this thread. Otherwise, I will assume that as always, you have refrained from reading the threads you begin, and that this message has not be seen.
Cheers and best regards.
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What happened to 'turn the other cheek', Zyraen?
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One only has so many cheeks.
(Author's note: I didn't read the two really long posts above before posting this. I suppose I will now, just to see if I've embarrassed myself.)
Edit: No luck. Couldn't make it halfway through the first post. Sorry.
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I can never read long posts either, my attention tends to waver. But anyhow, I was never angry at Moongaze (though I thought all the aliases were quite funny); I thought it was mostly CoM posters he'd annoyed and wasn't aware it was people here too.
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I find this gratuitous 'evil ogre berserker'-bashing outrageous. I hereby demand satisfaction. Even to mention ogres in a thread like this is a cruel reminder why orcs and ogres will never be featured in any flirt packs and smoochy-smoochy mods. :(
-Don Throgg
Edit: typo
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SConrad : I was keeping it for you :)
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I've just checked all 61 Moongaze's posts to find out what the last one was about. 60 of them were about technical stuff, one was smth rude to Zyraen, for no obvious reason
So, can Moongaze or anybody else explain to me what this is all about? Needs must I know it
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Search the posts at Chosen of Mystra. See also the accounts of: Dreamer, Shard.
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And, preferably, keep it over there.
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Thanks, Icelus and Ghrey, I checked CoM forums
So Moongaze wants to hear opinions, I take. Ok, Mr. Moongaze, sir, here's mine
You behavior at CoM was disgusting, sir. And even twice and thrice so, you guess why
And now your post that opens this thread seems to me as much disgusting
So as a whole, you disgust me many times, sir
Not that I think you should be banned for this, no, 'cos there's nothing one should be banned for, I guess. But if I were you, I would have banned myself long ago, and run away as far as possible, perhaps to the Moon, and never, ever visit forums where CoM members could show up
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take me to your leader. meep
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'cos there's nothing one should be banned for, I guess. But if I were you
Not even spamming >1000 threads (and I mean *real* spam, like ads for viagra, or the exact same lines of text over and over again), posting pornography, writing guides to bomb making and assassinations, etc?
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@ Nightmare
Perhaps smth like starting WWIII ? Anyway, I'd hate to be the one to decide whether to ban or not to ban
EDIT: ADDED> I can't imagine why would someone want to post 1,000+ spamming threads, that's why the WWIII example
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@ Nightmare
Perhaps smth like starting WWIII ? Anyway, I'd hate to be the one to decide whether to ban or not to ban
EDIT: ADDED> I can't imagine why would someone want to post 1,000+ spamming threads, that's why the WWIII example
Never heard of Prilla, huh? most relevant sites (his groups, plaguezone.net, general revelery...) had all disappeared, but that guy had been posting 100+ of these messages a week: http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/showthread.php?mode=hybrid&t=59 (plus sending a lot of spam, insults, flames... to various people, including me)
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All right, guys, you have me confused now. Anyway, Moongaze didn't post 100+ messages a week, did he?
What I've just thought instead though, is that I don't have Net access from my own comp, so my roommate and I have to use my roommate's comp for PPG and Web, just we have two different e-addresses. Is it OK?
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And, preferably, keep it over there.
Please no. He has his own little forums, I think the third incarnation I believe, he can keep it there.
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One of the few things I can depend on for regular forum-fluffing entertainment is Moongaze's attention-seeking antics. My plan is this: leave him to the sandbox he hasn't peed in yet (RPGD), then wait patiently to observe the next trip to Bizarro-World. I always have less of a wait than I expect. Like this thread!
Hey! This could even inspire the next super drinking game! Let's see...
Moongaze has an idea for a new mod. (One sip)
Moongaze starts a forum for the new mod. (One sip)
Moongaze adds another NPC or a large new component to one of his existing mods. (One sip)
The new component features Aerie. (Two sips)
The new component features Aerie in a relationship with an NPC of the same sex, monkeys, a bag of wool, or other furry-type thing. (Chug)
Moongaze announces he is abandoning a mod. (One sip)
Moongaze announces he is resuming a mod. (One sip)
Moongaze posts under a pseudonym. (One sip)
Moongaze uses a pseudonym to praise or defend Moongaze. (Two sips)
Moongaze uses a pseudonym to deny the pseudonym is Moongaze. (Chug, and try not choke)
Moongaze leaves forever. (Two sips)
Moongaze returns. (Two sips)
Moongaze does both within the same week. (Big gulp)
Moongaze posts a message of peace. (Buy everyone a round!)
I'm sure the survivors at CoM could come up with a more comprehensive list. I've got vodka and Grand Marnier for the Cosmopolitans. Let's see how long we stay sober! :D
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One of the few things I can depend on for regular forum-fluffing entertainment is Moongaze's attention-seeking antics. My plan is this: leave him to the sandbox he hasn't peed in yet (RPGD), then wait patiently to observe the next trip to Bizarro-World. I always have less of a wait than I expect. Like this thread!
Hey! This could even inspire the next super drinking game! Let's see...
Moongaze has an idea for a new mod. (One sip)
Moongaze starts a forum for the new mod. (One sip)
Moongaze adds another NPC or a large new component to one of his existing mods. (One sip)
The new component features Aerie. (Two sips)
The new component features Aerie in a relationship with an NPC of the same sex, monkeys, a bag of wool, or other furry-type thing. (Chug)
Moongaze announces he is abandoning a mod. (One sip)
Moongaze announces he is resuming a mod. (One sip)
Moongaze posts under a pseudonym. (One sip)
Moongaze uses a pseudonym to praise or defend Moongaze. (Two sips)
Moongaze uses a pseudonym to deny the pseudonym is Moongaze. (Chug, and try not choke)
Moongaze leaves forever. (Two sips)
Moongaze returns. (Two sips)
Moongaze does both within the same week. (Big gulp)
Moongaze posts a message of peace. (Buy everyone a round!)
I'm sure the survivors at CoM could come up with a more comprehensive list. I've got vodka and Grand Marnier for the Cosmopolitans. Let's see how long we stay sober! :D
My alcohol tolerance is strong but I would die of alcohol poisoning if this was a drinking game.
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My alcohol tolerance is strong but I would die of alcohol poisoning if this was a drinking game.
I was thinking we'd be puking before it came to that. :pirate
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The new component features Aerie in a relationship with an NPC of the same sex, monkeys, a bag of wool, or other furry-type thing. (Chug)
What about if its all 4?
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I wonder if there is somewhere he hasn't posted this.
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He hasn't posted it at either of these locations.
http://dir.groups.yahoo.com/dir/Religion___Beliefs/
http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=nsdap
I didn't see anything at Noobermeet, either.
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That slacker.
Hey, five bucks says he never revisits this thread.
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I would get drunk on the first one that Bons has about his mod idea, which should be plural as in ideas.
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@Moongaze posts a message of peace. (Buy everyone a round!)
Now you are being ridiculous, luv. Nobody has that kind of money. Noone but Jason, but I hope he is spending it all on game development instead of booze.
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I would get drunk on the first one that Bons has about his mod idea, which should be plural as in ideas.
Hmm. What's less than a sip? Sniff the fumes? The sad part is that we'd probably still get drunk with just #1.
The new component features Aerie in a relationship with an NPC of the same sex, monkeys, a bag of wool, or other furry-type thing. (Chug)
What about if its all 4?
Teeheehee over it in chat, because, as jester has soberly pointed out, none of us can afford the to play the Moongaze Drinking Game except Jason, who is fiscally focused in other directions, namely game development and bread machines. :D
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This Moongaze sounds like a confused individual about his sexuality. They do offer professional help for issues like this.
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Quit trolling, wouldja? (Whoever you are. Wink fuckin' wink.)
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This Moongaze sounds like a confused individual about his sexuality. They do offer professional help for issues like this.
Yes, but the effectiveness of castration can be questionable. I'd advise caution.
Quit trolling, wouldja? (Whoever you are. Wink fuckin' wink.)
So does that mean that Muerte is Moongaze in disguise, or (surprise) SimDing0, or what?
Quit confusing the shit out of me. Thanks!
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Absolutely not. >:(
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So does that mean that Muerte is Moongaze in disguise, or (surprise) SimDing0, or what?
Quit confusing the shit out of me. Thanks!
Someone else, but in an effort to be polite (what a crazy 2006 this is!) and let that someone save face, I figure it's worth not mentioning. We don't want yet another crazy argument that involves people arguing about identity (and possibly gender and sexual orientation) on the internet. Plus the fact that I'm only 98%-ish sure.
Regardless, even if I'm wrong and Muerte is just a blur person, it was a pretty weak insult, and we at PPG can do better than that. If you're going to imply that someone's an idiot, do it with some grace, poise, and dignity. At least that way your flaws will be outnumbered by virtues three to one.
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Someone else, but in an effort to be polite (what a crazy 2006 this is!) and let that someone save face, I figure it's worth not mentioning. We don't want yet another crazy argument that involves people arguing about identity (and possibly gender and sexual orientation) on the internet. Plus the fact that I'm only 98%-ish sure.
Ah. With such a high margin of error, I think you're right.
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Seppuku!
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So does that mean that Muerte is Moongaze in disguise, or (surprise) SimDing0, or what?
Quit confusing the shit out of me. Thanks!
Someone else, but in an effort to be polite (what a crazy 2006 this is!) and let that someone save face, I figure it's worth not mentioning. We don't want yet another crazy argument that involves people arguing about identity (and possibly gender and sexual orientation) on the internet. Plus the fact that I'm only 98%-ish sure.
Regardless, even if I'm wrong and Muerte is just a blur person, it was a pretty weak insult, and we at PPG can do better than that. If you're going to imply that someone's an idiot, do it with some grace, poise, and dignity. At least that way your flaws will be outnumbered by virtues three to one.
(Ghrey isn't sure if he's really a woman or not)
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Ahh, Vel, he already admitted to not minding if we think that a long time ago. New material please. (insert cranky feminist diatribe "andwhat'swrongwithbeingawoman?" here, and then ignore it because as a person who got shirty about being accused of manliness, my opinion on the subject is clearly unreliable and biased.)
... we at PPG can do better than that. If you're going to imply that someone's an idiot, do it with some grace, poise, and dignity. At least that way your flaws will be outnumbered by virtues three to one.
:) That's the nicest thing he's said to us all week. This thread is working.
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Ahh, Vel, he already admitted to not minding if we think that a long time ago. New material please. (insert cranky feminist diatribe "andwhat'swrongwithbeingawoman?" here, and then ignore it because as a person who got shirty about being accused of manliness, my opinion on the subject is clearly unreliable and biased.)
Yeah, he admitted he doesn't mind if we think he's a woman. But maybe we've thought he's a woman so long he's starting to wonder if we're right or not! And who said there was anything wrong with being a woman! You missy have issues :P (and I have issues with puncuation. I blame 5 AM for the lack)
... we at PPG can do better than that. If you're going to imply that someone's an idiot, do it with some grace, poise, and dignity. At least that way your flaws will be outnumbered by virtues three to one.
:) That's the nicest thing he's said to us all week. This thread is working.
I approve of this comment wholeheartedly.
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I'm incredibly confused right now. Is it me or Moongaze you're talking about?
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I refuse to answer until you prove you've read more than 3 words of my post.
Vel: sad, isn't it. I did say ignore it because I'm unreliable on the issue. I lose my ability to accurately decipher language when my feminist ire is raised. ;D
Returning now to the atmosphere of peace. Thank you Moongaze, and Ghrey.
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I refuse to answer until you prove you've read more than 3 words of my post.
Did you at any point in your posts mention politics (real world), vegetarianism, sexuality, feminism, and whatever else blew up in that last little bit of 2005? Or did you at any point impose some arbitrary rules in a thread, like people only being able to post happy or sad poems? Because if you did, then I didn't read your posts.
Vel: sad, isn't it. I did say ignore it because I'm unreliable on the issue. I lose my ability to accurately decipher language when my feminist ire is raised. ;D
Returning now to the atmosphere of peace. Thank you Moongaze, and Ghrey.
I didn't read that.
:) That's the nicest thing he's said to us all week. This thread is working.
See, this I don't get. Why's the thread working?
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I think the "thread is working" because it was "A message of peace" and you're being kind and not contentious.
The logical explanation is that there's some wacky automatic translation that happens in the feminine brain for things coming in, that doesn't get reversed when going out. Who knows what they're talking about?
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I think the "thread is working" because it was "A message of peace" and you're being kind and not contentious.
Ah yeah. Good point.
The logical explanation is that there's some wacky automatic translation that happens in the feminine brain for things coming in, that doesn't get reversed when going out. Who knows what they're talking about?
'They'? I think you mean Vel and Eral, and if so, Vel's a dude, so... hooray, this thread has devolved into an argument about gender on the internet! Go us!
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It was the coward's way of saying "Who knows what Eral is talking about?"
Better just to slap the face of women everywhere than to single one out.
EDIT: in case my seriousness isn't easily gauged, insert your favorite smiley here
EDIT: if I was on top of my game today, I would have said "They" == Eral and you. oh, well
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EDIT: if I was on top of my game today, I would have said "They" == Eral and you. oh, well
I was expecting it, yeah. I laughed anyways, so you can be happy about that. And not a fake token laugh, either!
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Well I'd guess Eral for one, and I figured out what she was saying. As for Erals issues, they must be drawn out! I dream of a world where Feminists and Meninists (I was going to write masculinists, but meninists is more fun to say!) are a thing of the past, because they're not needed any more!
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I know Ghrey, that I have mightily transgressed by entering into discussion of politics (real world), vegetarianism, sexuality, feminism,(you forgot religion, keep track, man, keep track) and bras, but really, you should get over it. You'll have to go to GitP for an atmosphere free of those. I will probably still reference those things - ob/com, so sad- and you will not read what I say, offending your delicate pirate sensibilities as I do, OK. But it is somewhat confusing when you ask me to clarify something you haven't read. Makes it difficult to identify the part lacking clarity. How about I put little coloured warnings to warn you of content you find boring?
EDIT: Aren't you over the poetry thread yet? It was called 'To Be Or Not To Be' - I assumed that meant pro/anti-life. As a mod, you should be glad. It's probably the only on-topic thread I have ever been in.
devSin - I like the way you hastily inserted general smileys. However, acting out of fear rather than genuine remorse just doesn't cut it. Expect a visit from the SWAT team. Any tick of the clock.
Thank you Vel: meninists is a very good word. Shared culture may give you an advantage over devSin and Ghrey, increasing your understanding of my meaning. Or you are just much much smarter.
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*goes off to the photo album to check out Eral's looks. hopefully she'll be visible.