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BG2 Completed Mods => Turnabout => Topic started by: jcompton on September 27, 2005, 03:24:18 PM

Title: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jcompton on September 27, 2005, 03:24:18 PM
Turnabout will be released in a matter of days!

Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Bursk on September 27, 2005, 05:26:57 PM
This is the first I've heard of this mod!  It looks great!

I hope Minsc will be happy to see Dynaheir again.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jcompton on September 27, 2005, 11:22:25 PM
Tiax may go on to rule! ... if you're desperate enough to bring him back, that is.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jcompton on September 28, 2005, 04:48:11 PM
Jaheira and <CHARNAME> must face Khalid at last...

Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Western Paladin on September 28, 2005, 09:47:22 PM
Wow. And I thought Turnabout was an urban legend. :)
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: melora on September 28, 2005, 10:14:37 PM
it looks great... i am so excited
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Caedwyr on September 28, 2005, 11:52:45 PM
Jaheira and <CHARNAME> must face Khalid at last...



Angst and love triangles.  Should be good reading if done well.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Culain Mainframe on September 29, 2005, 02:14:37 AM
Wow Jc, you are having a modding spree recently, very good. But as I red on the Nalia forum, you are trying to finish as much modding work as you can before you gonna make a game?? If you are hired by a studio, congratulations and much succes! Does this mean you will stop modding BG 2 or will it take the backburner for now?
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jester on September 29, 2005, 03:30:20 AM
Wow, good job.... Julius!
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Kulyok on September 29, 2005, 05:46:01 AM
I have doubts about Tiax' speech pattern. "fortuious occurrence" fits to his stats, but compared to BG1 and BG2 in-game dialogue, I would expect something more mad and primitive.

Mind you, it is only a quickie:
"I have foreseen this! Great Cyric would not leave Tiax in this... this... this... <CHARNAME>?"
"I see that Cyric chose you as a tool for my glorious ascension!"
Banal, yes, but I would like to see something in this manner.


Jaheira: I sorely miss the option to let Jaheira choose between two men. I think that she is quite capable to make the decision herself, is she not?
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jcompton on September 29, 2005, 08:49:28 AM
Wow Jc, you are having a modding spree recently, very good. But as I red on the Nalia forum, you are trying to finish as much modding work as you can before you gonna make a game?? If you are hired by a studio, congratulations and much succes!

I'm putting up the money.

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Does this mean you will stop modding BG 2 or will it take the backburner for now?

Naturally, it's not going to be the first place I choose to expend my creative energies.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jcompton on September 29, 2005, 08:54:16 AM
I have doubts about Tiax' speech pattern. "fortuious occurrence" fits to his stats, but compared to BG1 and BG2 in-game dialogue, I would expect something more mad and primitive.

I'm satisfied. In-depth arguments will have to wait for the return of Andyr. I find it hard to get worked up one way or another over characters that were essentially only BG1 soundsets (and then a couple of lines in BG2, in this case.)

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Jaheira: I sorely miss the option to let Jaheira choose between two men.

There is a third reply option cut off by the scroll window which you may find more satisfactory.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: fallen demon on September 29, 2005, 05:17:21 PM


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Jaheira: I sorely miss the option to let Jaheira choose between two men.

There is a third reply option cut off by the scroll window which you may find more satisfactory.
  Is there also an option to offer to ressurect Khalid but not give up Jahiera?
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jcompton on October 01, 2005, 01:29:41 AM
Xzar... might be a bit lonely without Montaron, but I'm sure we'll get to him sooner or later...

Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jcompton on October 01, 2005, 01:30:30 AM
And an all-too-brief family reunion... Gorion will have a picture in the final release, but I forgot to put it on this version and I'm tired.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jester on October 01, 2005, 03:20:38 AM
Xzar : 'Dead like me' :rolleyes: *chuckle*
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Regullus on October 01, 2005, 10:40:26 AM
  Very exciting development! So...you have to have Ascension too?












Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Ding0 on October 01, 2005, 10:43:30 AM
Unfortunately, yes.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jcompton on October 01, 2005, 01:32:55 PM
Yoshimo's in the mix as well. Of course, not everyone is pleased to see him.

Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Kulyok on October 01, 2005, 01:43:12 PM
I'd like to see Keto's reaction here.

No Yoshimo's reaction on whether Ilmater's quest has been done or not? It works here all right, I am just wondering.

Last Yoshimo's line is very much in character, I think.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Regullus on October 01, 2005, 01:44:14 PM
Unfortunately, yes.

 :(
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jcompton on October 01, 2005, 02:16:45 PM
I'd like to see Keto's reaction here.

Future version.

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No Yoshimo's reaction on whether Ilmater's quest has been done or not? It works here all right, I am just wondering.

Yes, there are actually three variants on meeting Yoshimo, depending on game events. Only one of them (this one) will allow you to secure his services.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Tameon the Dragoon on October 02, 2005, 10:18:19 PM
Oh, what a joyous turn of events! I truly had considered this mod a goner. Yipee!

What I am curious about, though, is what becomes of your old friends after the final confrontation with Amelyssan. Also, while I'm at it, will you use the same portrait for Gorion used in the BGI NPC Project? Consistancey is a good thing, after all. Perhaps even the BGII-ilike portrait for Montaron used in A Mod for the Wicked at SHS. It looks rather nice.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jcompton on October 02, 2005, 10:22:04 PM
You can choose to resurrect one (or none) of them, if they are willing.

The rest implicitly go back to their respective resting places.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Andyr on October 03, 2005, 05:55:49 PM
I have doubts about Tiax' speech pattern. "fortuious occurrence" fits to his stats, but compared to BG1 and BG2 in-game dialogue, I would expect something more mad and primitive.

I wrote different sequences for Tiax depending on the PC's alignment (though I note that JC has extended stuff in my absence, so I do not know exactly how it plays out). Depending on your alignment he will have different reactions to you - ranging from hatred of your foul nature, leaving him to die while he valiantly fought Irenicus, to him being pleased that Cyric has sent you to fight alongside him. If you play through you should be satisfied that he is quite mad with a distorted memory of events, and you do need to be careful what you say or else you won't get away with it. ;) He's difficult to please. But what would you expect from the rightful ruler of everything?
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: cha0s on October 06, 2005, 06:22:05 PM
looks good
do the npc's join the party? and wht lvl are they?
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: jcompton on October 06, 2005, 08:03:20 PM
Shockingly enough, these questions are addressed in the mod's documentation!

Each character has been given a posthumous "promotion" of power and experience points, roughly equivalent to a 3.5 million XP character with stock equipment and some additional bonuses.

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Q: How do I control my summoned allies?

A: They will behave as summoned creatures rather than party members, so you will not receive a party portrait for them (and do not need to kick anybody out of the party to use them.) They employ eSeries AI which you can simply allow to take its course by "ignoring" them, or click on their green circles and direct them manually if you prefer.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Kulyok on October 07, 2005, 04:39:19 AM
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I wrote different sequences for Tiax depending on the PC's alignment (though I note that JC has extended stuff in my absence, so I do not know exactly how it plays out). Depending on your alignment he will have different reactions to you - ranging from hatred of your foul nature, leaving him to die while he valiantly fought Irenicus, to him being pleased that Cyric has sent you to fight alongside him. If you play through you should be satisfied that he is quite mad with a distorted memory of events, and you do need to be careful what you say or else you won't get away with it.  He's difficult to please. But what would you expect from the rightful ruler of everything?

I have read Tiax .d file and the epilogues, and I am more than happy with it - congrats. However, in this case I meant specifically these two words -
"fortuitous occurrence." Two three-syllable words in the row from Tiax' lips do not seem realistic to me. Compared to the rest of the dialogue, with which, as I said, I am satisfied, it is a minor gripe, but the words appear in the greeting dialogue, and it highlights the problem quite a bit. This is what it may look like to a player: I play the game, the screen opens, I read the words, and my reaction is: "Eh? He did not speak like this in the game!" - and I  treat the following dialogue with a great deal of prejudice.

I am by no means an expert on these matters, but having read and re-read Tiax' in-game texts in order to write his player-initiated dialogues, and having written my diploma work partially on speech patterns in automatic style recognition, I felt obliged to offer my opinion. :)
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Andyr on October 07, 2005, 08:08:51 AM
Oh, right. Hmm. Any suggestions? I don't mind making changes.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Kulyok on October 07, 2005, 08:19:18 AM
Simply "Praise Cyric the Wise!" would be the best, I think. Also, "Praise Cyric the Wise for keeping his word!" "My destiny has come!" "The day of my glory has come!" "The word is ready to kneel before Tiax!" (btw, as his in-game texts use DESTINY, here it would work, too, I suspect.) Or any of your choice.

Also, while we are at it: I fully agree that Tiax resided in Cyric's realm. But I am not sure about "He sent me forth from his realm of the dead to this place?" phrase, because the words "realm of the dead" vividly remind me of Kelemvor. A simple "But... why has He sent me forth from his realm?" or "But... why has He sent me forth from his realm to his place?" would be sufficient, I think - but that's just my observation.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Andyr on October 07, 2005, 09:37:11 AM
Well, Cyric was (until recently) the God of the Dead, and believes he is the most powerful of all deities, so even if the rest of Faerun now sees Kelemvor in possession of that portfolio then both Cyric and his deranged servants (of which Tiax is most certainly deranged) might well still regard Death as being in Cyric's control. Regarding anything that comes out of their mouths as truth is a dangerous assumption to make.

And if you choose to read it another way, it simply says 'the place where Tiax's dead servants go', which would be the case for any deity, of Death or not. ;)

As for 'fortuitious occurence', I think that yeah, I may remove it for just 'Cyric the Wise' or 'All-Powerful' or something.
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Kulyok on October 07, 2005, 09:55:05 AM
Cool, thanks. :)
Title: Re: Turnabout Preview Pics (yes, really)
Post by: Vasculio on April 08, 2006, 07:37:14 AM
Heres a screenshot of the fixed Final Battle Sarevok!  creature name ---->  finsarev.cre

Sorry i don't know how to do the image code unless someone shows me!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b103/Vasculio/Misc/finsarev.jpg

Heres the render i used

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b103/Vasculio/Misc/sarevok_render.jpg

Heres the portraits i aligned and sized

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b103/Vasculio/Misc/SarevoG.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b103/Vasculio/Misc/SarevoM.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b103/Vasculio/Misc/SarevoS.jpg